Nice work Paul; what an amazing space this is, surely it can’t be left in this condition it’s absolutely a prime location for development. I’m sure if it was in Manchester it would have been developed by now! Thanks again Paul for bringing it to light 👌
The Liverpool Waters development is still in its infancy. The complete redevelopment of the central dock area will be completed sometime in the 2050s. It's a 30 year project mate, I won't be around when it is finished, but I bet it will look magnificent. There will be large residential areas, and also commercial, and entertainment venues. The scale is unimaginable.
When you think of the activity that once went on all around our Docks and the employment they provided. I grew up in the south end and as a youngster I can still remember the MD@HC Loco's going along what was left of the Dock Railway.
A local lad, from 1969 to 1975 I was one of H.M. Immigration Officers stationed in Liverpool. In the early days, the Liverpool Journal of Commerce daily had 2 or more pages of ship arrivals from foreign ports and we had to visit most of them. I think I have visited ships in every dock on both sides of the river from Seaforth Dock to Garston and from Bidston Dock to Runcorn. Then we had monthly (or more) arrivals of the Empress of Canada, the Niger Line boats from Lagos and the Geest boats from the Canaries bringing hundreds of passengers. It was insanely busy. Then two things changed Liverpool and the world forever... the invention of the standardised shipping container and the advent of cheap air travel, manifested in Liverpool by bucket and spade flights in superannuated Lockheed Constellations from the new 'international terminal' (a hastily converted old hangar) at Speke.
@@nemesislooms6315 My uncle sailed on the Empress Boats, all my Uncles and my Father went away to sea. One uncle served in The Royal Navy and the rest in the Merch. My Father took part in The North Atlantic Convoys going to Murmansk. The others were all Liverpool Dockers when they finally came ashore and my Dad went labouring on Building sites. So much maritime history and seafaring service in this city my friend. So sad the way it went.
Hello Paul, An excellent video. I remember when they were in use. The Belfast Ferry used to sail from Princess Dock and you could see the Ferry when at the Pier Head. There are 2 docks side by side in your video, where the walkway between these two docks are flooded. I wonder how could this happen, as the dock gates to the rest of the system are open, so the water would all be at the same level. Thank you.
Now that we thankfully do not have the albatross that was the WHS, I think Peel should revisit their plans for the area and substantially up the quality, heights and massing of the proposed new buildings to go on there.
Brilliant video. Been waiting for someone to do a flyover of this area to see what it looks like before it gets developed for ages. And what’s happening to Trafalgar docks? They look like they’re sinking.
yeah its been flooded for years now. not sure what will happen to it yet. here is a vid i did in 2012 of the area before it started to flood. ua-cam.com/video/vw_tQXyJGbQ/v-deo.html
Hi Paul. Great fly pass mate. Am I right in saying planning has all be approved for the redevelopment of this area also work commences this year sometime ? It will be fantastic to see the two Victorian building brought back to life. 🙏 really good for catching cod of this section of walling during the winter months 🤫
The infrastructure, roads utilities etc. has been given final approval. This work starts in April this year. There is a number of projects about to start or at least in the final stages… New Cruise Terminal, 2 luxury hotels, the 2/3 tall buildings on King Edward triangle, the new hotel opposite BMD and a number of others projects. I’m hoping that this will all be covered by our lovely droners 😂
Waterloo Dock will soon open upto the public for pretty much the first time in living memory. With BMD set to open, Central Docks should start to slowly be developed, allowing people to walk all the the way from Otterspool Prom to Bramely Moore Dock for the first time ever.
nice vid Paul - shows how much potential there is - however don't hold your breath as Peel have done square root of sweet FA for over a decade to move things forward unless its someone else's money - even the park is being funded by the gov. Oh they do put out a new CGI every now and again usually watered down from the last version . Sorry to be so negative about this - I hope to be proven wrong .
Geography! Liverpool is the 4th biggest port in England outside of the 3 major ones around London. They are all easily accessible to ships coming from Europe, Africa & Asia. Liverpool is harder for them to get to and costs more for them to come up here so it doesn't make sense. Unless they are coming from America then that's quicker for them to offload in Liverpool compared to down south.
its been up in the air for years but i think work will begin this year. it gong to be a project called Peel Waters. They are running the regeneration on both sides of the water. www.peelwaters.co.uk/
Only waited for Peel holdings to make a complete and utter mess of it, look forward to shoddy built tower blocks,and public access denied along the waterfront
Any other major port city in Europe..and this wasteland would have been redeveloped years ago....Liverpool is known for its lack of investment and enterprise I remember working in these districts 60 years ago..looked exactly the same then
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What a great video. We don't often get to see parts of Liverpool from this perspective. Thank you 👍.
Glad you enjoyed it
As always Paul, great coverage and no waffling commentary over the video.
Nice work Paul; what an amazing space this is, surely it can’t be left in this condition it’s absolutely a prime location for development. I’m sure if it was in Manchester it would have been developed by now! Thanks again Paul for bringing it to light 👌
The Liverpool Waters development is still in its infancy.
The complete redevelopment of the central dock area will be completed sometime in the 2050s.
It's a 30 year project mate, I won't be around when it is finished, but I bet it will look magnificent.
There will be large residential areas, and also commercial, and entertainment venues.
The scale is unimaginable.
Thanks. All a bit sad - when I was a lad a lot of this was still bustling.
Great video. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for posting.
Beautiful picture brilliant recording thank you brilliant memories.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great vid mate just subbed hope you will carry on this journey over the next 5 years or so as the whole area gets developed
cheers and thanx for the sub great to have you on board. Yes ill be following the project
@ sound mate can’t wait to see the progress
Crazy to think that was once the centre of trade to the empire.
Oh yes.
Great video, Paul. I always wanted a better look at the spaces between BM and the bustling waterfront.
When you think of the activity that once went on all around our Docks and the employment they provided. I grew up in the south end and as a youngster I can still remember the MD@HC Loco's going along what was left of the Dock Railway.
A local lad, from 1969 to 1975 I was one of H.M. Immigration Officers stationed in Liverpool. In the early days, the Liverpool Journal of Commerce daily had 2 or more pages of ship arrivals from foreign ports and we had to visit most of them. I think I have visited ships in every dock on both sides of the river from Seaforth Dock to Garston and from Bidston Dock to Runcorn. Then we had monthly (or more) arrivals of the Empress of Canada, the Niger Line boats from Lagos and the Geest boats from the Canaries bringing hundreds of passengers. It was insanely busy.
Then two things changed Liverpool and the world forever... the invention of the standardised shipping container and the advent of cheap air travel, manifested in Liverpool by bucket and spade flights in superannuated Lockheed Constellations from the new 'international terminal' (a hastily converted old hangar) at Speke.
@@nemesislooms6315 My uncle sailed on the Empress Boats, all my Uncles and my Father went away to sea. One uncle served in The Royal Navy and the rest in the Merch. My Father took part in The North Atlantic Convoys going to Murmansk. The others were all Liverpool Dockers when they finally came ashore and my Dad went labouring on Building sites. So much maritime history and seafaring service in this city my friend. So sad the way it went.
God bless peel holdings good things happen with them make my Liverpool great
Tell some Tales those old Docks, oh yes.
Hello Paul, An excellent video. I remember when they were in use. The Belfast Ferry used to sail from Princess Dock and you could see the Ferry when at the Pier Head. There are 2 docks side by side in your video, where the walkway between these two docks are flooded. I wonder how could this happen, as the dock gates to the rest of the system are open, so the water would all be at the same level. Thank you.
Not sure why they have filled like that. been slowly filling up for years. here is a vid from back in 2012. ua-cam.com/video/vw_tQXyJGbQ/v-deo.html
Sad sight!! I remember travelling the length of The Docks on the overhead railway in the 1950's
wish i had the chance to do that
Now that we thankfully do not have the albatross that was the WHS, I think Peel should revisit their plans for the area and substantially up the quality, heights and massing of the proposed new buildings to go on there.
In 1967 I got a job working for Crichton Brown Ship Repairs working on The Collingwood Dock doing repair work on an old rust bucket called The Mawana
Brilliant video. Been waiting for someone to do a flyover of this area to see what it looks like before it gets developed for ages.
And what’s happening to Trafalgar docks? They look like they’re sinking.
yeah its been flooded for years now. not sure what will happen to it yet. here is a vid i did in 2012 of the area before it started to flood. ua-cam.com/video/vw_tQXyJGbQ/v-deo.html
those seagulls would wreck my nerves :) cool vid
cheers phil, lol yeah was a bit of a shock seeing the all take off
Hi Paul. Great fly pass mate. Am I right in saying planning has all be approved for the redevelopment of this area also work commences this year sometime ? It will be fantastic to see the two Victorian building brought back to life. 🙏 really good for catching cod of this section of walling during the winter months 🤫
yes, i hope to see work begin here this year and yeah cant wait to see the victoria tower restored
That’s a huge area, it’s like the size of a town centre.
any idea when this project will start, there's a lot of potential with this vast site?
all plans have been approved so i expect it to begin this year.
The infrastructure, roads utilities etc. has been given final approval. This work starts in April this year. There is a number of projects about to start or at least in the final stages… New Cruise Terminal, 2 luxury hotels, the 2/3 tall buildings on King Edward triangle, the new hotel opposite BMD and a number of others projects. I’m hoping that this will all be covered by our lovely droners 😂
@@veryhighguy Sadly, with the economy now in tatters (Thank you Rachel) I very much doubt it
Is it no longer viable due to modern shipping sizes?
most of the ships use the north docks these days. ua-cam.com/video/tI3SmQJj0Kg/v-deo.html
You should off shown more along two Waterloo peel port it would off bee great.
ill be doing more. i hope to get there over the weekend and ill do more on the other side and ill fly down to waterloo dock
Waterloo Dock will soon open upto the public for pretty much the first time in living memory. With BMD set to open, Central Docks should start to slowly be developed, allowing people to walk all the the way from Otterspool Prom to Bramely Moore Dock for the first time ever.
it will be great when we cn do that
That's a lot of space for unaffordable housing...
Not much left.
nice vid Paul - shows how much potential there is - however don't hold your breath as Peel have done square root of sweet FA for over a decade to move things forward unless its someone else's money - even the park is being funded by the gov. Oh they do put out a new CGI every now and again usually watered down from the last version . Sorry to be so negative about this - I hope to be proven wrong .
i am hopeful something will start this year
Think how many council houses could be built on
that instead of greenbelt. R
Brownfield site, ideal for a football stadium...
Why does all the freight end up down south when you have one of the greatest docks not being used ,just like our Manchester ship canal
Geography! Liverpool is the 4th biggest port in England outside of the 3 major ones around London. They are all easily accessible to ships coming from Europe, Africa & Asia. Liverpool is harder for them to get to and costs more for them to come up here so it doesn't make sense. Unless they are coming from America then that's quicker for them to offload in Liverpool compared to down south.
What's the plan for this area
its been up in the air for years but i think work will begin this year. it gong to be a project called Peel Waters. They are running the regeneration on both sides of the water. www.peelwaters.co.uk/
Only waited for Peel holdings to make a complete and utter mess of it, look forward to shoddy built tower blocks,and public access denied along the waterfront
don't think they will block access i think the plan is for you to be able to walk from Everton stadium right to the pier head and beyond to otterspool
A nice cheery positive post. Must be fun in your house.
Absolutely criminal behaviour to fill these docks in
it is but i think the ones left will be built around and the docks left as a water feature. I hope so anyway
Any other major port city in Europe..and this wasteland would have been redeveloped years ago....Liverpool is known for its lack of investment and enterprise
I remember working in these districts 60 years ago..looked exactly the same then
things have changed though. Liverpool now see investing in the city works but sometimes there is a lot of red tape in the way.
Build Liverpool fc new 90.000k football stadium there .