MICHAEL JORDAN vs GEORGE GERVIN - very RARE
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- MICHAEL JORDAN vs GEORGE GERVIN - very RARE
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His finger roll was so smooth you can play Curtis Mayfield's song Superfly and you can feel how fluid his shot selection took for him to be such a weapon on the court.
Ice was so much fun to watch. He made it look effortless. It’s a shame he doesn’t get recognition for how good he truly was
Oh he does, Michael did an interview with him once. In fact his shooting position may be odd, but he got the job done. He's beyond silky on getting buckets.
I sooo agree with you
The only people that don't give George Gervin his credit for being great is the younger generation who didn't see him play or folks who hasn't watch videos on him. Then you have younger folks that refuse to give old school players credit just like you have old school fans who refuse to give today's players their credit.
Yea bc y'all a bunch of mj fans,like others wasn't putting it down before him,or after💯yes mj is a great,but he wasn't the first to do none of the stuff he did,rings MVP and all
@mericanmodi8479 No kidding his scoring efficiency is elite. I surprised to find he had four consecutive years of over 100 blocks too. Former longtime NBA coach Dick Motta said he it seemed like he could score the ball whenever he wanted. Don't doubt it for second.
A true history lesson on this beautiful game, you can see MJ really absorbing every word and great tutelage from a legit legend.
Yes mj did a good job but it had too much of a business feel to it...I wish it had a little more heart and I wish they had talked a little more about their time together on the bulls.
@@barney5583 that’s because they didn’t like each other in real life. They were teammates for one year and that made Gervin retire. Mike went out of his way to call him old and all type of stuff. You can find the stuff anywhere.🤷🏾♂️
😂 Jordan didn't get along with Gervin
Top scorer in High school.
Top scorer in College
Top scorer in the pros.
Unstoppable.
Simply amazing to see.
JESUS CHRIST IS KING. JESUS CHRIST LOVES YOU. REPENT AND BE SAVED. TOMORROW COULD BE TO LATE.
Unbelievable talent and NO body has EVER had a finger roll like Gervin!!!!
You ain't lying man. Hands down nobody... If you look at how he was releasing the ball sometimes, due to the movement of the defenders, George was rolling that mug off the side of his hand sometimes and still dropping it straight down in the bucket so smooth all nets... Swish!!!!!
Not even dr j lol
@@salmaccarrone2401 Doc ain't need no finger roll,he just dunked it in ur face! LOL
Wilt Chamberlain's wasn't as sweet but definitely more dominant
False. Wilt had first then they named it. Lol
In 1984/85 season they played twice against each other. Mike scored 45 and 38, Gervin 28 and 19. First game was won by the Bulls, second by the Spurs. In 1985/86 season they were teammates in the Bulls.
They were barely teammates though, jordan missed 64 games so they never really built chemistry
George was Washed up when he got to Chicago.
You have to respect MJ's ability to humble himself and learn from the greats like Ice was an underestimated trait. I think he appreciated seeing that from Kobe and other players that tried to learn from him. Like many greats before him, MJ was a student of the game.
I remember a friend of mine coming back from a Spurs Clippers game in 1982 and saying how amazed he was that Ice played the entire game completely dry / without a bead of sweat.
I believe Gervin, much like Julius Erving and Rick Barry, should be rated far higher on the list of all-time great. They are not because their time in the ABA stunted their career NBA stats. Gervin was a four-time NBA scoring champ, Barry an all around force who is the only player in history to lead the NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring, and Erving was Dr.J, the greatest player in ABA history.
Ya rezpect
Barry played in the nba after college. He actually left the NBA for the ABA. As far as I know he's the only star player to do that.
Alot players could be added to your list Billy Cunningham Dan Issell Artis Gilmore to add a few
The Ice Man!!
One of the Greatest of All Time
One of the Top 5 shooters in NBA history, yet forgotten. Averaged 26 points and over 50% shooting...Only he and Lebron hold that stat. He and Jordan only guard to average over 33 points and 52% shooting for a year. Scored over 26,000 points in ABA/NBA...But league only counts NBA points.
Gervin FG% was 52%, for his career, not just (1) season. In other words, for an entire 12 years and 26,000+ points in the NBA and ABA, Gervin made 1 shot for every 2 shots he took.....think about that!!!!!.
@@citizenscapital2458 i never saw him miss that finger roll, it was as good as a dunk.
Wilt Chamberlain average 50 points one season I don't know what the percentage was
It is always fun for me to point out disrespect toward the most dominant player of the past 60 years. He has 30.1 ppg and 0.540 fg%. Somebody has to, I guess. RIP, Mr. Wilton Norman Chamberlain
He's not forgotten what the hell is wrong with you people??
So dope to see the mutual respect they had for each other, thanks for uploading
That was something to see Jordan acknowledging fellow greatness so freely and easily
Chick Willis
So a man respecting another respectable man is some sort of feat in your world?
@@carlitosortiz2870you're looking to start shit?
ortiz wtf why you on here trying to start some bs like a 5 year old?
David Thompson's 73 and Iceman's 63 in the same night was the coldest match up ever.
imagine no 3 pointers
@@MuslimYouthMedia Pistol Pete Maravich did that even against the Knicks when he scored 68 against them.
David Thompson was Michael Jordan's hero. Also remember when David Robinson scored 71 to Shaquille O'Neal's 32 to take the scoring title.
@mericanmodi8479 in his 68 pt game pistol made 26/43
@@thomasanderson3892 you got to bring the white guy in it,im from New Orleans and i was born 1980,so i heard all the stories about Pistol Pete but he was not better than the Ice Man or David T.
I do feel the local white sport organizations in New Orleans should have kept the Jazz in New Orleans though,wth is a utah jazz? Aint no Black Jazz in Utah.
If Ice was playing in today's NBA he would average at least 40 a pop.
And that would serve no purpose. The game has changed and is leaning more toward team plays than ever.
Iceman was unstoppable, defenders had no chance facing him.
He made it so easy..
I was fortunate to see him when he was the best of the best in scoring when he was at his prime
In the old HemisFair!
One of the greatest of all time! A top 25 Player of all time George Gervin! San Antonio always were in title contention. Just couldn't get over the hump! M.J. did a fabulous job. Two of the greatest! Peace and love!
The Ice-Man Straight from the East-side of Detroit and that Finger Roll from the D
Ice Man George Gervin.....!!!....Truly one of the all time greats to ever grace the black top to the hardwood to the ABA to the NBA....!!!!.....No one like him......I used to love that dudes game......He used to give my Los Angeles Lakers pure hell....!!!!......My man,the Ice Man🧊.....!!!
The greatest one on one player I have ever seen in my 59 years, 53 years of watching basketball
When you played him one on one Derrick what happened?
@@coolmod7731 He is 11years older so if we started playing one on one when I was 13 iit didn't go so well for quite awhile lol. My first win came when I was 18 or 19.
@@derrickgervin1060I know you were happy to win! That's awesome D! Was George throwing any of those hook shots?
The thing about George, he and other great players couldn't get over that hump, and win a NBA Championship.
George Gervin couldn't win a championship.
MJ learned from the best. Wow you’ll never ever see players like this ever again.
You're correct MJ and a lot of others have to learn from the best and that's how come Michael Jordan became the 11th greatest player as I see it in basketball history 11th
Yes Jordan did. He learned from Gervin, Dr. J, Larry Bird, Magic Bernard King and even Isiah too...
All these young navie people seem to think Jordan just invented every move he did and didn't learn anything from the true legends of the 80's.
Kobe?
@@Iambriangregory troll
@@dxtremecaliber hello casual have nothing to add to the conversation because of lack of brain power? Maybe you should start listening and learning from other people how about Michael Jordan's historical limits and then maybe you can do something other than just label people labeling is for LOSERS You see how easy it is to label people? I just labeled you a loser Now you have nothing to say at all and your silence will be deafening see if you can learn how to add something to a conversation because right now you're a basketball nobody Go look in the mirror You see what you see now a basketball nobody smh duh
It’s too bad people forget him. I’ve seen modern fans put 4-5 other guys on the Mount Rushmore for San Antonio and don’t even name him. It’s nuts.
Good thing all that tape is out there. You can get kind of dizzy watching him drop so many buckets.
One of the ''KOOLEST'' men in the history of the human population !!!!!!! THE ONE & ONLY ''ICE MAN'' !!!!!!!
What these youngins no about that, ice man coming at you with the finger roll...if they had a 3 point line back then, forget about it, gervin had a outstanding jumper.
@@jaycompany4886 they did have the 3 pointer, the 3 pointer came from the ABA just like Gervin came from the ABA.
Big facts
Eell said Nick.
ortiz not when the ice man came into the league they didn't...3 point line started in 79, in ABA yes but gervin's first few yrs they didn't...that's all im saying
The Iceman was the Real Deal. For those who go back to the dawn of his playing career, they will remember the Coldest poster of him sitting in his Nike's on the blocks of Ice.But his game was unquestionably, Next Level, featuring his patented "Finger Roll". Watching him now as he coaches in the Big3, brings back the memories of he and backcourt running mate, James Silas,as they terrorized first, the ABA,(the multicolored ball made Iceman's finger roll even more Special),and later, the NBA. Thank You for posting this very Special piece. 🏀🏀🏀
IM 65 YEARS OLD BORN AND RAISED IN BROOKLYN NEW YORK CITY I SAW ICE FOR THE FIRST TIME JANUARY 1973 AT THE NASSAU COLISEUM VIRGINIA SQUIRES AND NEW YORK NETS DOC SCORED 58 POINTS FOR THE SQUIRES BUT I KEPT MY EYES ON ICE ❄ BECAUSE I COULD TELL HE WAS SPECIAL I WAS AT THE HALL OF FAME WHEN ICE WAS INDUCTED MAY 1996 AND I MET MY HERO GEORGE ICEMAN GERVIN DURING HIS CAREER AND HERE IS THE KICKER I LOOK LIKE JAMES JIMMY SI CAPTAIN LATE SILAS ALL OF MY 65 YEARS ON THIS EARTH 🌎 WOW WHAT A GREAT LIFE I'VE LIVED
Durant is the 2.0 version of the Ice Man, with a three-point shot narrowly separating them. Seems that Gervin continues to be historically underrated. Perhaps history would've treated him differently had the Spurs defeated Washington in the 1979 ECF and won the title over Seattle.
Totally agree with you!
There you have it. That chip means everything. If one doesn't ever play on a championship team, their accomplishments are downgraded just a tad. Durant knew this. But for him, not winning the chip with OKC caused people to see him in a dimmer light. Especially since he took the if you can't beat em, join em, route
Durant doesn't have the depth and variety of shots that Gervin had. Also, at 6'8" and just a 180 lbs soak and wet, Gervin was a very physical player as well.....he spent much time in the paint and post. His post game was unstoppable as well.
@@jalove7 Hey man I ain't gone say you took the words outta my mouth but you said some real and true things that I would have forgot to mention. Very, very well put my man, nice piece of writing... I agree with you 100% man, KD compared to Gervin, there's absolutely no comparison. Ice all day, all the way!!?
@@citizenscapital2458 no way Gervin was only 180lbs
Yes I'm aware at what his listed weight was but that three digit number 1-8-0 is not reflective of how much he actually weighed
It's just not. He was more like 215
His hook shot alone would give him 20-30pts a game in todays game. His hook was so smooth and unexpected. It would be truly hard to guard and stop that shot then on top of that he can switch it and jelly shot.
6:06 Look at MJ's legs proportion to his body.
Now u know why his jab steps was so lethal.
think his pants are just worn up high
Iceman was so good, but I remember November 84 when MJ showed him who the new kid on the block was. Awesome game
Ice had aged
I remember that game. That was Gervin's last year with the Spurs. He sat out the majority of the 2nd quarter and still wound up with 28 points!
@@NoSpinster0909 Yeah he was. But Imagine Ice prime on prime against Jordan. He would tear an instant hole through Mike!
Should have ended the video with the Iceman poster of him sitting in his ice chair palming the two ice balls in his ice cold sweat suit looking cooler than a penguins toenails.
The Iceman cometh 👊🏽
My brother Shawn Bryant had that poster way back in the day.Burlington City nj in the building.THE ICE MAN SHALL COMETH!
I had that póster
That tells me a lot about you sir. You're Old School to know that Poster. I'm 55, my two favorite players are Dr J and Iceman. I remember checking the papers each day back in 82, as he and Moses Malone (Rockets) battled for scoring leader.
I think mj would've had to work hard vs Dr J or ice in their prime ,longtime Celtic fan
I strongly agree with you.
Kudos to MJ. He did a great interview and humility learning from another great. I like “this” MJ.
Cool interview with Jordan
Two great scoring champions having mutual respect for one another and the game.
Every year i hope there is a player in the NCAA that plays offense like George Gervin. There never is. The smoothest player to ever play the game of basketball. The only player who in real time many times appeared like he was performing in slow motion highlight mode. Never be another player like him.
Kevin Durant closest thing but taller and an emphasis on 3s
@@educatehour ...kinda sorta, but Ice was known for his amazing creative but super smooth shots that he somehow made look like it was easy to do. On you tube put in Bernard King vs George Gervin game. Gervin shoots falling out of bounds and behind the backboard it goes in but somehow ice made it look like everyone else can do it when nobody can.
And they say the players were plumbers. 6'8" off guard. You don't see that much in today's game.
Exactly!
those who say that, dont know better.....
Only kids would say that.
You know you're one of the greatest when Jordan interviews you👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥
😬🙄
@@memcrew1 I know, lame. People think wheaties must be the greatest cereal "bEcuZ jOrdAn oN tHe bOx!"
At 2:06 that flick of da wrist was sickening!!!💯
He pretty much invented the finger roll.
@@waynewalton8798 Actually no. He said himself that he borrowed it from Wilt an modified it
@@waynewalton8798 Actually Wilt Chamberlain invented it, but Gervin had more variations of it.
@@vrokhlenko Yes sir that's correct. Wilt Chamberlain did invent it. Well they called it the finger tip roll when Wilt did it.
George just had more variations of it than Wilt, Connie Hawkins, and Dr. J.
Crazy that mj and the iceman played together !!
A history lesson for me and an honor to watch this video of 2 of the most influential players of the pro game.
It was an absolute pleasure watching the Iceman his whole career in San Antonio.I love that he still lives in SA and is still with the Spurs.
During the tenure of the ICEMAN. #10 Bro GARY TYSON dropped 47 points in his final game as Huron at home. Which is still a record to this day.
SALUTE...✊🏾
He didn't get the nickname "Iceman" because he looked smooth, he got it because he didn't sweat.
Wrong
@@geronimocruz9123 i saw an interview in which Gervin explains it from his own mouth stupid
@@geronimocruz9123 ...No, he's right!
One of the most underrated and talked about superstars
This is a true gem. Idk how such an incredible piece of legendary history got recommended to me but it's definitely getting saved into my playlists forever 🙌🏿💯🙏🏿
I wonder if Gervin had any idea of how Great MJ would be? Much appreciated, I loved watching Iceman play. Pure magic and so entertaining to see his flair. To be honest, I forgot about G. Shame on me and the NBA for not showing more of his highlights. Players in the days past didn't take games off to rest and play when they felt like it,they played every game. That's why Lebron James will never be in my mind the Goat. Too much credit. Great, but there's no comparison to Michael Jordan. Hands down.
Two of the most proflic efficient scorers in NBA History
ICE IS IN THE HOUSE 🏀
Watching this ole school players like the "IceMan" makes it harder to watch today's NBA!!
Ice Man. Finger roll from 25 feet. All smooth and in the groove. Ole George can shoot anything steph can. Except ice can dunk. With power
Thank you for sharing this Jordan and Gervin interview 👍
Gervin still had game when he played with the Bulls. Don't know why he retired.
Gervin had (2) 40 pts games that last year with the Bulls.
He got payed more to play in Italy
Gervin said Jordan treated him like shit on the Bulls
@@zumba.c , hahaha! That's because he wanted to be George Gervin.
@@citizenscapital2458 It was revenge for Gervin helping ice out Jordan at the All-star game
Legendary interview with the young GOAT …George Gervin had no idea MJ would become the GOAT
Not even close!
I am really conflicted when it comes to George Gervin. For one, I absolutely love and adore players who developed a truly unique and personal style of playing basketball. Gervin is second to none in that department. But I have a problem with players who only play offense. Comes play-off time that comes to an end right quick. And Gervin is player number 1 or 2 (the other one is obviously Pistol Pete) on the All Offense/No Defense All Star team.
Nothing can be further from the truth. Gervin was a pretty good defender. He is second behind only Jordan for blocks in a season for a guard.
Gervin played defense early in his ABA/NBA career and was pretty decent. Obviously, he was no defensive stopper. But when you can score the Ball like Ice, you get yourself 4 other defensive stoppers. Remember, @ 51% career FG percentage for every 2 shots Ice took, he got you 1 bucket.
As I said, this might cut during the regular season but there are no titles without being defensive minded, no matter how good you are in offense. When GSW won their last title and played Denver in the playoffs, for one Curry played stellar defense and GSW targeted Jokic on offense with great success. He cleaned that up and Denver won a title. (obviously, it helped to have key players back). There is no star or franchise player who was indifferent towards defense with much playoff success. Take Barkley, a beat on offense, a minus defender. If he had turned himself into plus defender the year they played the finals against the Bulls, he might have had his title. @@citizenscapital2458
@@RatedRex1 Your right I looked him up, and avg a steal and a block a game for 9 straight seasons
George and my pops played against each other in high school and college. My pops was drafted by the Pistons in 75 but didn't make it to be Legendary like George#DetroitLegends🏀💪🏀💪🏀💯
Who is your pops?
@@chitown702 Cliff Pratt
@@CeeNote313 🆒
Great video. (And pretty good quality) love the vibe and respect both Jordan and Gervin have for eachother.
Coolest player ever
Doc and ice the koolest ever.smooth.
6'8 guard Yikes! He had that finger roll. Spurs never have wack guards Gervin, Ginobili, Johnson, Murry
The guy who played next to Gervin in the ABA days was a great player. James Silas, before he hurt his knee was making a mark of his own. They called him 'Capton Late' because of his game winning shots.
I liked when Jordan laughed after Ice said he punched that guy and knocked him out
Jordan punched 2 Bulls teammates...Steve Kerr& Will Perdue...MJ Threatened THE CHIEF...Robert Parrish😠But his BS💩ran into a Brick Wall there!😡
@@josephphoenix1376 it's because the chief was multi martial arts black belt. He would hurt mj something bad.
....yeah, I know right... guy stuff, it happens. he did learn from his mistakes though.
This man with Dr. J always made every move look so finessed.
Michael Jordan did a great interview with the Iceman!
lot of people tend to forget how much about the game Jordan knew. He wasn't just the GOAT, he learned and was relentless in the mental aspect of the game as well as his physical tools. Also Iceman finished out his career as Jordan's teammate.
Thanks 🙏🏽 Never would have seen this.
Legendary never forget there was always a before.
His finger-roll was like Tim Hardaway's 2step...anywhere & anytime
Ice made the greatest statement ever when talking about being clutch: either take the shot or get it to the one who has a better chance to make it. Mike exemplified that to the tee.
Jordan had good interviewing skills he could have had his own sports show
Jordan was working behind the scene on his *"game"*
Great look at an incredible player and legend!
One of the most underrated players ever Love George’s Game
12 straight all star appearances four time scoring champion? How is that underrated?
I use to love that show. A lot of sports legends have hosted the show.
Two of the most proflic efficient scorers in NBA History. The Ice Man!! One of the Greatest of All Time.
MJ is humble, he learned what he needs from other stars, Gervin is one of the best MJ could learn from, MJ learned many things, but not only moves, he learned how to be a leader, to have courage and he became more mature after watching and spending time with guys like Gervin.
Yes
Yet it is pathetic about how they are both laughing about Iceman kayoing an opponent in college.
....the guy who got clocked in college by The Ice Man, maybe he should have ducked 🤔
Damn, Ice still looked so young at retiring, he could have played some more years for sure.
Kang of the finger roll. IceMan!!!
Another player who had the best potential was Michael Antonio Britt (October 7, 1960 - December 25, 2017) was an American professional basketball player who was selected by the Washington Bullets.
Popularly known as the Flying Pencil.
Would've been interesting, like Len Bias to see against The GOAT - MJ.
As we have proven many times, NBA and drugs don't mix well at all.
Wasted talents.
DMV luv rezpect
Wow!! George Gervin with M.j Amazing one n one interesting interview classic
Gervin was in a very elite club of players who were so smooth that it looked like they slowed the film down for him, while the other players frantically tried to stay with him as he found the slightest opening to the basket. Dr. J was another who had the same smooth style.
Nobody ever could stop Gervin
WOW?!!! You learn something NEW everyday!! Maybe I'm the only one, but I never knew that Gervin played with Jordan!!!! WOW?!!! 🤔🙏👑💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
yeah but George was on his last legs.
@@uncletony6210 OK!! Makes a lot of sense!!
That’s why Michael is the greatest basketball player because he combines two great players in his arsenal Dr J and the iceman skills .
unsung underrated unknown unfortunatly
Ice man was a baller. Still shocked that my man David Thompson not a member of that top 75.
they prefer to keep players with a known drug addiction out.
Wow! I didn't know that MJ met and interviewed GG Ice man. I now see MJ and Magic's Origin. Superb!!
Fox M ...You weren't around.
Jordan and Gervin were teammates in Gervin's last season
A true humble athlete
I never understood when the Ice Man played with the Bulls when Michael got hurt that year and the Ice Man carried the team throughout the season. When Michael came back and they played against the Celtics in the playoffs but the Ice didn't get much time when him and Mike should have been the starting guards. John Paxton a good shooter should have been coming off the bench .What was Doug Collins thinking?
Yeah it's nice to see Jordan doing this interview of Gervin, but you know Jordan didn't want Gervin and complained to the Bulls organization when he found out they made the trade for Ice.
Jordan said in the article he wasn't too happy about it. You could probably still pull the full article up on Google somewhere.
See Jordan knew how raw Gervin was, and he thought by Ice coming to the Bulls, he would steal his shine.
I believe if Jordan and Gervin played on the court together when Mike came back off that injury in the playoffs against the Celtics they would at least won two games instead of getting swept.
I don't think they would have beat the Celtics but the series would have been a lot more interesting. Doug Collins kissed Jordan's a** and knew Mike didn't like George coming to Chicago his team and his town so that's why Doug didn't use Gervin in the playoffs like he should have just sucking up to Jordan.
He wasn't thinking 🤔
Umm Doug Collins didn't coach that 85-86 Bulls team that was Stan Albeck...Doug came into the fold as coach for the 86-87 season til he got replaced for Phil Jackson in 89 after the Bulls lost to the pistons in the ECF.
Ahora entiendo muchos de los movimientos y lanzamientos a contratiempo de Jordan;tuvo un excelente ejemplo y maestro.
Interesting video, especially since MJ was presumably very unhappy about the trade that brought Gervin to the Bulls and presumably MJ did not treat Gervin to well that year, which in turn helped Gervin decide to retire earlier than planned. I missed when the video was shot. Maybe it was before the "freeze out."
2 Great NBA Legends 👍😊
Ummm!!! Michael Jordan, Is All That Came Before Him… He Absorbed All Of There Energy, All Even In His Era… And Became A Warrior Among Warriors… ❤❤❤
Wow...mj was the goat of interviews too.
I grew up watching Gervin.He was a one man wrecking crew! I'm 56 now,and MJ's
the only other player I've watched that you knew who was the best player on the court.... period.
That finger roll… SHEEEESH!!!!
GREAT VIDEO!
Great documentary!!!
Great video
If he played D better, he would be akin to Pippen yet better scorer. Penny Hardaway was same height as them and I would say, just about a combo of both until he got knee injuries. Ice was so quick, agile and smooth that, y'all may not have ever heard this but... he was hard to foul, too!
The Iceman was unique there was NEVER a player like him,so many different shots,different angles, lethal from outside,range on his jumper,creative around the basket and doing it all like he was ready to take a nap,there has NEVER been a more efficient offensive player ,high shooting % very good free throw shooter and had hops when he was a young buck, been watching NBA for forever at 70 years old, Ice was one of a kind
High powered offense blew a 3-1 lead.. history repeats its self I say this to youngsters all the time. Nothing is new just reincarnated
So who u think winning this year?
I often compare Clyde "The Glide" Drexler to George Gervin.
I forget ALL about him when rating top guards. Being old school, I should know better. I watched the big "O". Gervin was one of the best!
everyone always credits magic with being the 1st big guard that changed the game but Ice was definitely in contention for changing the game to why we see big guards today
Ice ice babyyy
Iceman and Earl the Pearl could not be faded!
The music in this is so good.