There's so much material in history, I'm glad Sabaton brings them to light. There should be movies about them and that's the LEAST we can do instead of letting people's bravery be lost to time. It's good to see YOU back! 🥂
History is about place and the events in relationship to the people now. Part of the "people now" is the Sabaton concept album "The Art of War" where each song illustrates a chapter of this Chinese classic. Talvisota is chosen for the eighth chapter called "Variation of tactics" The Sunzi Bingfa (in characters: 孫子兵法) is a useful read and a decent translation is worth purchasing: Roger Ames translation is good If you prefer graphic novels Peter Katz turned it into a graphic novel. It is well worth reading even online. Back to chapter eight which starts: Sunzi said: In war, the general receives his commands from the sovereign, collects his army and concentrates his forces When in difficult country, do not encamp. In country where high roads intersect, join hands with your allies. Do not linger in dangerously isolated positions. In hemmed-in situations, you must resort to stratagem. In desperate position, you must fight. There are roads which must not be followed, armies which must be not attacked, towns which must be besieged, positions which must not be contested, commands of the sovereign which must not be obeyed. The general who thoroughly understands the advantages that accompany variation of tactics knows how to handle his troops. The general who does not understand these, may be well acquainted with the configuration of the country, yet he will not be able to turn his knowledge to practical account. So, the student of war who is unversed in the art of war of varying his plans, even though he be acquainted with the Five Advantages, will fail to make the best use of his men. The Finns in the war used a lot of unorthodox tactics and were successful.
BTW a battle local to me called the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest which happened in 9 AD between the Romans and the German tribes where the Romans entered the forest and had to form a long thin line and the Germanic tribes outflanked them and defeated two Roman legions and Augustus, the emperor, foe the rest of his life regretting the failure: ua-cam.com/video/f-ohKuKy4_s/v-deo.html
Wow, a book written so long ago and STILL we today find it useful. Hard to say if evolution of tech eases or impairs man through each generation. Ooouuu Roman/Germanic engagements? I'd LOVE to watch that! I wonder, is there anything there (plaque etc) to mark the battlefield? Or is it just a location where everyone knows it happened?
@@cloudedreactions2578 For the two thousandth anniversary of the battle in 2009 we had three sites for the celebration: 1) Detmold where in the nineteenth century they built a statue to Arminius / Hermann called the Hermannsdenkmal 2) In the area called the Teutoburger Wald (which is where I live BTW) 3) at the site of the actual battle at Kalkreis Here is a video on the battle in English: ua-cam.com/video/50TGklzOts0/v-deo.html
@@cloudedreactions2578 Alfred North Whitehead, a 20th century philosopher, wrote in 1928: "the safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato" and Plato was writing at about the same time as Sunzi perhaps a little earlier.
The Molotov cocktail was first used in the spanish civil war from 1936 to 1939 but it was in finland where it got the name Molotov cocktail and that general that came out of retirement general mannerheim after the war he served as finlands president because everyone loved him and wanted him to run the country also during the winter war sweden provided the most aid to finland mostly because finland is a nordic country and the nordic Scandinavian countries have a sibling attitude toward eachother and also because sweden HATED russia because of the great northern war in 1700 to 1721 and the war in 1809 during the winter war sweden provided over 10,000 men as volunteers and received over 70,000 finnish children evacuating from finland they also provided tons of material supplies over 135,000 rifles 450 light machine guns and alot more etc they also provided 25 aircraft with pilots to fly them during the winter war they shot down 12 soviet planes with only 6 of their own destroyed and only 2 of them were by soviets the rest were destroyed by accidents
Heya ^^ Btw, if you like a visual representation of these historical battles, I recomend Kings & Generals. Here on youtube they show it like those strategic games, you see the armies how they moved e.t.c. And he also talks of history of course.
That's the second time that channel was referenced. Since everyone here are history majors, it must be an awesome channel to cover history. I shall give it a shot! Thanks!!
Just about every Finnish person knows how to ski at least a little. It's always been mandatory to learn to ski at school. These days, from just few years ago, schools can decide to do something else instead, if there's not enough built up snow. But most schools still do some skiing and ice skating too. Finnish Defence Forces also teaches skiing and winter survival. And since we have conscription and about 80% of all men have a basic military training, we still have an army that knows how to ski through the tough terrain of the Eastern border. If you're interested in how the modern Finnish military works the Finnish Defence Forces (FDF) has an official UA-cam channel that has many great videos. Other reactors have also reacted to some of them.
I'm glad to see you're back and reacting to Sabaton again. Love this song and the history behind it is really interesting
There's so much material in history, I'm glad Sabaton brings them to light. There should be movies about them and that's the LEAST we can do instead of letting people's bravery be lost to time.
It's good to see YOU back! 🥂
History is about place and the events in relationship to
the people now.
Part of the "people now" is the Sabaton concept album
"The Art of War" where each song illustrates a chapter
of this Chinese classic.
Talvisota is chosen for the eighth chapter called "Variation of tactics"
The Sunzi Bingfa (in characters: 孫子兵法) is a useful read and
a decent translation is worth purchasing:
Roger Ames translation is good
If you prefer graphic novels
Peter Katz turned it into a graphic novel.
It is well worth reading even online.
Back to chapter eight which starts:
Sunzi said:
In war, the general receives his commands from the sovereign,
collects his army and concentrates his forces
When in difficult country, do not encamp.
In country where high roads intersect, join hands with your allies.
Do not linger in dangerously isolated positions.
In hemmed-in situations, you must resort to stratagem.
In desperate position, you must fight.
There are roads which must not be followed,
armies which must be not attacked,
towns which must be besieged,
positions which must not be contested,
commands of the sovereign which must not be obeyed.
The general who thoroughly understands the advantages that accompany variation of tactics
knows how to handle his troops.
The general who does not understand these,
may be well acquainted with the configuration of the country,
yet he will not be able to turn his knowledge to practical account.
So, the student of war who is unversed in the art of war of varying his plans,
even though he be acquainted with the Five Advantages,
will fail to make the best use of his men.
The Finns in the war used a lot of unorthodox tactics and were successful.
BTW a battle local to me
called the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest
which happened in 9 AD
between the Romans and the German tribes
where the Romans entered the forest
and had to form a long thin line
and the Germanic tribes outflanked them and
defeated two Roman legions
and Augustus, the emperor,
foe the rest of his life regretting the failure:
ua-cam.com/video/f-ohKuKy4_s/v-deo.html
Wow, a book written so long ago and STILL we today find it useful. Hard to say if evolution of tech eases or impairs man through each generation.
Ooouuu Roman/Germanic engagements? I'd LOVE to watch that! I wonder, is there anything there (plaque etc) to mark the battlefield? Or is it just a location where everyone knows it happened?
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For the two thousandth anniversary of the battle in 2009
we had three sites for the celebration:
1) Detmold where in the nineteenth century they built a statue to Arminius / Hermann
called the Hermannsdenkmal
2) In the area called the Teutoburger Wald
(which is where I live BTW)
3) at the site of the actual battle at Kalkreis
Here is a video on the battle in English:
ua-cam.com/video/50TGklzOts0/v-deo.html
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Alfred North Whitehead, a 20th century philosopher, wrote in 1928:
"the safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato"
and Plato was writing at about the same time as Sunzi perhaps a little earlier.
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This is an artistic recreation of it:
ua-cam.com/video/heFDaSS5I7Y/v-deo.html
The Molotov cocktail was first used in the spanish civil war from 1936 to 1939 but it was in finland where it got the name Molotov cocktail and that general that came out of retirement general mannerheim after the war he served as finlands president because everyone loved him and wanted him to run the country also during the winter war sweden provided the most aid to finland mostly because finland is a nordic country and the nordic Scandinavian countries have a sibling attitude toward eachother and also because sweden HATED russia because of the great northern war in 1700 to 1721 and the war in 1809 during the winter war sweden provided over 10,000 men as volunteers and received over 70,000 finnish children evacuating from finland they also provided tons of material supplies over 135,000 rifles 450 light machine guns and alot more etc they also provided 25 aircraft with pilots to fly them during the winter war they shot down 12 soviet planes with only 6 of their own destroyed and only 2 of them were by soviets the rest were destroyed by accidents
Heya ^^ Btw, if you like a visual representation of these historical battles, I recomend Kings & Generals. Here on youtube they show it like those strategic games, you see the armies how they moved e.t.c. And he also talks of history of course.
That's the second time that channel was referenced. Since everyone here are history majors, it must be an awesome channel to cover history. I shall give it a shot! Thanks!!
Just about every Finnish person knows how to ski at least a little. It's always been mandatory to learn to ski at school. These days, from just few years ago, schools can decide to do something else instead, if there's not enough built up snow. But most schools still do some skiing and ice skating too.
Finnish Defence Forces also teaches skiing and winter survival. And since we have conscription and about 80% of all men have a basic military training, we still have an army that knows how to ski through the tough terrain of the Eastern border.
If you're interested in how the modern Finnish military works the Finnish Defence Forces (FDF) has an official UA-cam channel that has many great videos. Other reactors have also reacted to some of them.
Molotov cocktail is an gasoline bomb, Finn's just used it right and gave it it's name. fire have been used in war a lot.
Burning is a bad way to go, what wretched creatures we humans can be :/
The Nordic countries Norway, Sweden and Finland are best in the world on cross country skiing!
I bet those countries are so beautiful 😍 I wonder, do YOU know how to ski? I live in a desert so I have to live vicariously through others Dx