The Power Of Catholicism Lets Robocop Be Robocop (Freaky Black Mirror Episodes)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Karl just loves Robocop.
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I imagine Karl’s tinder profile would read something like:
“Don’t even bother unless you are robocop.”
or a T1000
chris davidson yep, that too.
Or Broly
is it weird i heard his voice when I read that quote
He would match with Motoko Kusanagi
Paul Verhoeven is really into theology and attends seminars and such and his movies are full of allegory, but interestingly he is not actually religious.
He has described himself as a atheïst Jesus-fan.
@@terryfuldsgaming7995 Nice b8 mate
Probably the people who can most appreciate and analyze religion are those not trapped by it.
@@terryfuldsgaming7995 the problem with Athirst + crowd like yourself do not understand is this. When the Christian's broke away from Jewish tradition and founded Catholicism. They kept the old Torah known as the Old Testament. Sort of as a warning/knowledge of the original sins caused by their Jewish Ancestry. The New Testament are the four gospels and works by the Dispiles of Christ.
It's more of a acknowledgement of that yes, in some cases mixing theology with governance leads to bad things. Often this was chided in the early church (Before the papacy lost all governing power). It still somewhat a vision still held by Catholics and Christian's that people have faults and can be redeemed.
@@FlyboyHelosim it's also those who study it and still are part of the faithful. Often people forget that their pastor and priest are human and can have faults.
One theologian argue that most people believe, but truely never understand. Those who understand, often truely believe.
@AmeriFolksFellow V-M. Rhaefnhyrst see the thing with Paul Verhoeven is that he doesn't strife to give the masses or the big wigs what they want , his work is meant to be be a challenge and is often hedonistic as a reaction to performative prudishness in society.
He came to the US because he felt Dutch film boards that the industry rely on here for subsidies were too limiting.
His American work is a critique of America from a european lens, starship troopers is calling out latent fascism.
I think Paul sees himself more as chasing the money lenders away, willing to burn bridges to get to the truth.
Doomslayer is a devout Catholic celibate. So RoboCop being able to remain human due to religion is legit.
I think they call him a robot and not a cyborg cuz it has so little human parts as to be considered one.
Marketing. Just marketing.
Hold on? Is doom slayer legit a catholic?
@@burrito8443 confirmed by devs also He a veergeen
@@kittentacticalwarfare1140I mean it makes sense knowing he's like the only one left and he probably never got laid in his 20s which he probably started working on mars which isn't the worst thing
Whiles he isn't a human, he has a Human soul.
Superhero: St. Murphy
Superpower: Super Catholicism
@@terryfuldsgaming7995 Well, that's a shitty power. Id rather have laser vision.
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Super villain: Terry Fulds
Weakness: Originality
*Superpower: Robo Catholicism
@@staunchy7143
Super villain:
Staunchy
Weakness: Compliments
Sick burn dude.
I'm here cause I know how much Karl loves Robocop.
When I first watched robocop 1 and 2 it was for the entertainment, then I slowly clued into what was happening to Murphy in both movies. Deep symbolism in the 2 movies
Scrolling through UA-cam at 11:05 and then I see 2 words put together. RoboCop and Catholicism. Needless to say I immediately tapped on it
Same here but at 11:21 am
Note to self: become a Catholic just in case I ever get turned into a robot so I don't kill myself.
You don't necessarily have to be a Catholic to view killing yourself as an immoral act.
bryan diaz varela
When faced with extreme suffering it wouldn't be that odd for someone to want to be humanely euthanized.
There is a difference in how people with a certain background and ideology want to be treated when they're in hospice.
If you believe it's all a trial leading up to the Kingdom of heaven it's different then if you're just waiting to die.
Savva, being one doesn't really mean you wouldn't kill yourself as long as you value even a little your own life still have a higher chance to not do it. ( maybe （￣～￣;）
Edit: I do know that you are joking. (¬_¬)
And why you replied back to me and that the other!!
And ask if they know that you are joking?
All I'm doing is saying one fact you and others who is to blind to see that there is some truth to it that all ┐(¬_¬)┌.
I’m Protestant and I probably wouldn’t take my life
Raven Claww, do you know that I’m joking?
Must be just coincidence that this video about an archetypal hero being brutally murdered only to be brought back to life even stronger than before is uploaded on Good Friday.
When Karl put his arm behind his back I was waiting to see his hand through his shirt.
I remember hearing/reading that Robocop's gun is DNA locked to him or fingerprint locked to him so that no one else could use it and that's why they kept his hand.
Plus he's a publicity stunt to get robots on the streets and it makes him appear more like a man in a suit than a machine with a human face
The rebootcop fires weapons with both hands so... no DNA/fingerprint/biometric lock. It was just so he could shake hands.
You might be thinking of Judge Dredd. The guns used by judges are linked to them so criminals can't use them and will self destruct.
There was actually an episode of the RoboCop TV series that I remember where the gun could only be fired by RoboCop, as there's a scene where some guy picks it and tries to fire it but the gun won't work. This is the original RoboCop design like in the first three films though, isn't DNA coded but more likely electronically... plus I'm not sure how canon the TV series even is.
This is never mentioned in the movies and all of his limbs are artificial, so it wouldn't work anyway. It's just a gun.
Will you start putting a fish directly behind Karl when he is wearing that shirt so that it looks like his stomach is a fishbowl.
Catholics Represent!!
*sign of the cross gangsign*
Naughty By Nature: You down with OCP?
Robocop: Yeah, Jesus loves me.
Robocop was killed by Red Foreman from “That 70’s show”
No joke
He was killed by Clarence Boddicker, a character who predates Red Foreman by 11 years.
DamienDrake
There’s always that guy ☝️
Dumbass
"I'm gonna shove my foot up your mechanical ass!"
Kurtwood Smith makes the show so much better
Is it just me, or does Karl look like a kid on Christmas when he gets to talk about RoboCop?
PS. Favorite channel, love you guys.
I actually covered that little bit in an ancient video. I love characters that are powered by willpower like the thing.
At first i tought you were talking about the carpenter's one XD
@@JosephFlores-yn4yi Ha I get that. But no Karl did a video about how the Thing Determination always him to keep fight characters like the Hulk.
Depends on the writing really. If you can convince the audience that the characters are actually struggling.
I'm alittle disappointed that Karl didn't mention that RoboCop 2 was a drug addict that was diving by they compulsion to get high. Kinda plays with the conflicting idea of "Are we made up of our ideals & convictions, a soul as it were, or are we just chemicals in walking jars?"
Find someone who loves you as much as Karl loves Robocop.
But I feel that might be physically impossible to surpass that!
Edit:Thanks for the 100 likes
I wanna say this but I dont wanna offend karl, so im hidding it here
"ROBO BITCH"
So robocop is a paladin then?
yes
RoboPaladin.
Stick THAT in your Shadowrun game.
Depends on what definition of Paladin you are using. In real life a Paladin were just the elite dozen bodyguards of Charlemagne
@@weirdguy564 is that the origin of the name? I had no idea, but that sounds cool as hell
I think he means Paladin of the Brotherhood of Steel
I think that robocop said that because only his friends can call him Murphy
you might be right about that
Not willing to rewatch it. But I had the same thought before I read your comment.
Your reaction to thegayhare saying the same thing but better is ridiculous, and asking him to delete his post is downright shameful and sad. I hope you find some peace of mind, kiddo.
@@MrJimmybanana I had dropped it til you brought it up but its okay I have forgave them
Delilah Fike doggone patriarchy, smh. Them bigots, amirite
Being a 2nd generation Irish American who was raised super Catholic with cops in my family (cliche AF, I know)... I do distinctly remember hearing the Irish Catholic cop line in the film and thinking, "yep, that'd do it."
'He gets so, so wrecked by multiple shotguns' haha :D
I kinda just realized this, but Karl could make himself some amazing business cards. He's the MD of his own business, pretty sure he could be considered the editor and chief of the Fact Fiend website, and the executive producer /director/host of the Fact Fiend UA-cam series.
The timing of this is so perfect as yesterday Rimmer for Red Dwarf had the same question about himself.
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
Ass a russian, I love how "vodka" on backgroung is next to "Godzilla" and "Liam Neeson". Equal destroying capabilities, I guess!
Robocop, militarizing America's streets since 1987.
Good.
Yes that's the real takeaway from the movie. Definitely not that real life Detriot is worse off than the version we see in a dystopian action movie.
You forgot the direct mention of this in Robocop 2 when Dr Juliet fax was discussing the new phyc profile for the next robot... she directly said he's a "catholic and family man" and that's why he stayed sane
Damn, I never thought of RoboCop being so in-depth. I honestly thought it was just a robot cop movie. English teachers should take notes!
thegamingwizard have you actually seen it? Not a deep film? It’s not even about a robot or a cop or a robot cop.
@@Jabber-ig3iw nope! I think I caught the first 10 minutes of the second one when I was like 8. But I never thought about actually watching it.
@@thegamingwizard2577 - you should watch the original film, it's a legitimate classic. Don't bother with any of the others.
This break down of Robocop is the reason that I subscribed. The movie is already so damn good with so much to break down. But the stuff Karl brought up just blew my mind.
Badass approval by the million dollar man.
I'd buy that for a dollar
I love that Robocop 2 has an entire plot point dedicated to why making another Robocop is a bad idea.
Watching this before the company takes this down as their last Robocop Video
When I first glanced the title, I thought it basically said that Robocop was approved by the catholic church.
That Black Mirror episode reminds me of the Stephen King short story called "The Jaunt". Its an instantaneous form of travel, but the userss have to be put under before using it. If awake, the mind perceives it as an endless white void that last for anyhwere from hundreds to billions of years, and every person who has done it awake either died of a massive heart attack or went insane
I love just how much Karl loves to talk about Robocop
I first saw robocop when I was digging through my dad's old VHS collection. It was secretly filmed by a shitty camera in german cinema and dubbed over by a single guy monotonously reading the script in my native language. That was the only way you could watch these "western movies" in communist countries, because they were banned. My dad was ripping and selling these tapes on the black market as a teenager. He got caught and almost went to jail for VHS piracy, but fortunately his uncle was a chief of police and bailed him out.
I love this series when I was a kid & I still remember death scene.
Y'all should talk about Psycho-Pass its bit similar to this.
Within 3 minutes because I didn't sleep and caught the episode before I usually do gang
Drink more coffee coz sleep is for the weak ( just woke from a nap)
You have no idea how happy i am to find a good channel that loves Robocop as much as i do. Its good for the soul
I love your enthusiasm when talking about RoboCop. I love RoboCop and learning stuff about it :D
Love you, Karl and your undying obsession for Robo Cop 😂 Question; who wins- Robo Cop or Judge Dredd?
Who wins?
The audience.
I'd say Robocop is more human . . . so probably Judge Dredd.
After an epic, cross-city brawl they would team up to take down whoever pitted two such law-abiding heroes against one another.
That's why i love a lot of sci fi, it deals with those questions of what is humanity, how much can you strip away before it ceases to be human. And aparently the power people get from their faith, because i missed that completely in robocop. You can attack the church for what some priests do, deconstruct the entire bible and say it's illogical, but it's undeniable that many people draw strength from their beliefs and it makes them better people. Sci fi portrays that like nothing else and i love it.
I love the human mind in a construct trope. There's a good book series called the Bobiverse where a guy named Bob gets uploaded into a deep space probe and populates the galaxy with copies of himself, with copies of copies having personality drift.
Robocop and Ghost in the Shell, two sci-fi classics everyone needs to see imo.
The line is,"My friends call me Murphy; you call me Robocop." This establishes that he has accepted that he is two things. Have you never bristled when someone inappropriately addressed you too familiarly?
Murphy's death scene in the Director's Cut is even more potent as the gang also shoot his arm off. I've been a massive RoboCop fan for years but didn't realise that I'd only seen one of the less violent cuts. When I first saw the arm being shot off in the Director's Cut only a few years ago it honestly shook me. An already graphic violent scene somehow took on a new level of horror.
Speaking of existential dread, Karl ought to do an episode about the game SOMA.
Question? Does anyone else think that the lyrics to Basil Poledouris' excellent theme song go like this:
He is a Robot..... He is a Cop.....He is a Robo-Cop!
1:00 on the DVD that scene is called "the mutilation of Murphy"
Whem my kids asks me why catholism is his religion im just going to sit him down and play robocop
Also, you want to make sure that when that happens, it happens on Good Friday.
The last scene of Robocop 3, I interpreted it more as a f* you to the OCP guys. "That's Mr. Robocop for you, thank you very much."
That one phrase should have been on the poster. "Is he man, is he machine, is he something in between?"
To add about the white christmas episode of black mirror. The ending when the dude gets banned from experience social interactions with everyone for ever is also terrifying.
Found Robocop on vhs at a family run rental shop at the age of 7 in 95'. Has been my all time favorite movie ever since. And as bad as 2 and 3 were they're a guilty pleasure of mine too.
If you ask me, Robocop is his job. I mean, it rolls off the tongue really well. Alez Murphy: Robo-Cop.
The more I learn about this movie the more it begins to make sense that Peter Weller went on to get a PhD in Italian Renaissance Art and Roman history. I read his dissertation, it’s fascinating stuff!
I was just researching what parts of him are still organic this past week. Battle Angel Alita: Last Order does a really good job exploring what it means to be human. The parallels are so good!
Karl. You and I are kindred spirits when it comes to Robocop. It has been my favorite movie since it came out in 87. So far I agree with every point you have made about this movie. It is still my number 1 movie. Just like I believe Robocop 2 is one of the better sequels made for a movie.
I think it was mentioned that his intense sense of duty was what kept him sane.
Me reading the title of this video: Alright, I'll bite.
This is definitely not a coincidence, i just watched RoboCop last night because it came up on Netflix... One of your team definitely saw that recommended too
Karl talking about Robocop is one of my favorite things. :)
Karl, you over think these movies and shows way to much...and I love it.
One of the most interesting videos. Before watching it I expected it to be about Catholics believing in the resurrection of the dead, which makes Alex Murphy accept his own “resurrection” easier. Didn’t know Catholics looked at suicide that way.
barkeep312 it is much more complicated than that. We really hate suicide that is not a sacrifice for others. I think I am saying it wrong, but basically suicide for suicides sake is not looked kindly at. It has been looked at now that we have a more deeper understanding of how suffering can lead a person to suicide, so it really depends and only God has the last judgment on considering the person’s reason for ending their life. Dante’s book Inferno has the old view of how suicide was considered bad, and that is what people usually think of in reference when talking about Catholics and suicide. The movie Constantine is an example of how the old Catholic views on suicide is mainly thought of in media.
One of the 10 comandmends is "you shall not murder" this includes yourself.
No other piece of media has ever made me contemplate the difference between life and machine, or things like existence, purpose and meaning more than the game Nier: Automata. The amount of philosophy and heart-break in that masterpiece puts most other media productions to shame. It'd be really interesting to see Karl's reaction to that experience
The fact that Murphy was marked for death right from the beginning by OCP (rather than his death just being a convenient accident) is explicitly stated by Bob Morton in an early scene, right after ED 209 fucks up in the boardroom and he's telling the Old Man how quickly he can get the RoboCop program operational, he says "we've already placed prime candidates according to risk factor".
Translated from corporate euphemism speak, he's saying "we've already found some people who'd probably cope with being forced into a robot shell, now we're making it as likely as possible that they get killed"
I'm always surprised that no one seems to pick us on this, it's the most chilling line in the film, and a perfect illustration of the anti-corporate message, yet it goes by so fast!
Ah, I just remembered later on.."he signed the release forms when he joined the force, we can do pretty much whatever we want" - you literally have to give up ownership of your mortal remains to get a reasonable paying job in this universe!
Unquestionably one of the most thoughtful and clever films ever made. Paul verhoeven is a goddamn genius (plus ed neumeier, the same writer he worked with on starship troopers).
Aaaaah Robocop. The first movie i snuck in by buying a ticket for an animated film that was out at the time and going to robocop instead once inside. What a flick!
As the song says, from the perspective of machines, “Robocop is a halfbreed sellout.”
Ohh I want that shirt for my birthday. Thank you kids so much for the laughter. Your work is appreciated.
The human hand is the main centre for our sense of touch, that would be a good reason to keep a hand. The handshake thing i get but is piss-weak.
Altered Carbon would also fit well into this conversation.
I still like to believe that Alex Murphy's real face was preserved and he got lucky enough to not get shot there.
When the VHS was released for rental my friends and I would watch all the effects frame by frame to see what was going on. We always thought the hand being blown off was wax but we knew nothing about movie SFX. The melting guy getting hit by the car was especially gruesome.
I like how every member of Fact Fiend has a Robocop video.
Getting me through lockdown lads. Thank you.
But here's the thing with your idea OCP transferred him themselves. Murphy litterely says he himself transferred there because he heard they were doing alot of good things in Detroit. Implying it was he who asked to transfer not OCP.
The part where RoboCop keeps the hand in the 2014 reboot makes sense when you take in account that the Keaton character basically WANTED a man in a robot suit whereas OCP in the original RoboCop didn‘t want him to be a man at all.
Also, they meant the face being cold when RoboCop told Murphy‘s wife „they did that to honor him“. If the face was „fake“, why bother including the bullet hole or why even use Murphy‘s face at all? His original face was put on a metallic skull IMO.
Aaaaand I don’t think the rudimentary digestive system is made of „original parts“ from Murphy.
I also think the fact that half of Murphys brain sprayed all over the floor makes it even more special to the audience and unexpected to his OCP creators that he more and more returns to be Murphy again, with most or even all of his memories intact.
you missed the point of that line in robocop3, he says "MY FRIENDS call me Murphy, you call me Robocop," basically saying fuck you to the guy that takes the place of the old man
Kinda reminds me of Major kusanagi from Ghost In The Shell, who as a child loses her entire body in a plane crash. The only bit left is just her brain and often asks herself "am I even a brain in a jar, or just programmed to think I am?"
Fun side joke; Robocop 2, before the "skull rip" robocop, there is a beefier robocop protoype. He goes nuts, kills the female scientist, shoots another, then kills himself. During the skull-rip, the dead female scientist is replaced by a robot as well.
Robocops biggest advantage is the ability to climb stairs and extra large cyber balls
I actually thought Joel Kinnaman did the best with what he could in the reboot. Anybody who hasn’t should go watch Altered Carbon season 1 & 2
Watch season one, and let that be your memory. 2 was horrible.
A couple of things, I think in robocop 2 the new versions of robocop killed themselves bc they had more human parts. The one you showed had a Full human skull. The other had a full human head. Also Alex may not have killed himself out of a sense of vengeance and justice. He became a golem. Going after the men that killed him. We don't know how the 2 suicide robocops died.
Did ya know that canonically Robocop and The Terminator are from the same universe?
Did ya know that there is a video game about that?
Skynet trying to take over and Robocop just going ham on some T-100s? Then Skynet takes over all the ED-209s. In the unreleased NES version of the game Skynet captures Robocop, reprograms him, and sends him back in time to kill John Connor and Alex Murphy.
The reason why suicide is a heinous act is because it's as if your declining the most valuable gift that has been given to you by God, which is your life
@@cowtzu
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cowtzu imagine you spend all of your savings on the newest iphone to give to your friend and he throws it at a wall.
@@vull8375 lol
Understandable. There a conceptual that human is not ready for cyborg to play the judge. Having human hand given to robocop save public many questions in term of realism.
The name makes sense if OCP wants the public to think he is a robot (and they do, they even made Murphy lie to his wife - it wouldn't have made sense if he implied that he was a *different* dead cop)
12 minutes of Karl gushing about Robocop is 12 minutes well spent.
YES!
Karl's love for Robocop is the reason why I subscribed to this channel....
RED RAIN IS POURING DOWN!
MY gripe with the Old Robocop (chill i know it's satire) is that they say things like Robocop is the ultimate fusion of human and machine, with unprecedented reflexes, skill, and accuracy.
What we get instead is a slow smack-talking clanker that can barely walk downstairs and takes half an hour to aim his gun.
The 2014 robocop got it right from that perspective - meld a trained human's mind with top-tier cybernetics and you get an absolute CYBER-F-ING-NINJA
@Fact Fiend - With Karl Smallwood, I wanted to comment here for two reasons I thought you would appreciate:
1) I have the same last name as RoboCop's nemesis in the first movie.
2) I am a Catholic priest.
I appreciate you bringing to light something I didn't know about RoboCop. I would say that the Church doesn't quite teach that suicide is one of the worst sins a person can commit, though in more ancient times it was likely seen in a far more negative light. Now with a better understanding of the role that psychological illness and intense suffering can play in a person's decision to take their own life, the Church teaches in the Catechism:
2280 Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.
2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.
2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law.
Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.
2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.
If Murphy was as devout as you say, according to the expanded universe, I would posit a different theory as to his resistance to taking his own life. Rather than a fear of hell because of suicide, it could perhaps be the Catholic understanding of suffering. In our religious tradition we see a redemptive value to suffering, that suffering can actually be good for the soul and unite one closer to Jesus, who suffered for our salvation. I'd bet Murphy went to a Catholic school, nuns and all, and grew up with the philosophy of "offer it up" whenever he suffered or struggled, which was the notion of offering your suffering for souls in purgatory. It could very well have been his Catholic perspective on suffering itself that allowed him to gradually accept his new reality. Just some thoughts your video got moving in my head, in case you'd like to buy them for a dollar.
Fr. Jacob Boddicker, SJ thanks for this, it expands on my knowledge of a conversation I learned in catechism that of a child asked the pope about what would happen to her father’s soul as he had committed suicide, and the pope had said something along the lines of considering the long suffering of the girl’s father, he would be welcomed to heaven.
@@Liandra24 You are so welcome!
Reminds me of Nick Valentine in Fallout 4 where he's trying to come to grips with the fact that's although he has the mind of the original detective he's just a synth
I'm surprised about how there's not that much people saying *DEUS VALT crusader* or something like that
I always just figured RoboCop didn't kill himself because being a cyborg is fucking rad.
Now that they put whole episodes on youtube, you need to see Japanese robocop i.e. Jiban where he gets better lawyer
To be fair, if I got blown up like that and turned into a cyborg I would like to have as much of my old body as I could get
Only other robo cop that survived had to be bribed with drugs in RoboCop 2
Every time you talk about robocop the more I like robocop
I understand why they let new robocop keep his real hand. Its the literal struggle of his humanity and tech side. He wouldn't have been able to shoot that one guy if he was purely cybernetic. He fought back as hard as he could but the real triump was literally his human side. He shot him with his real hand. The hand they left him to shake hands. The "gift" they allowed him to keep was the undoing of ocp. His humanity.
I think you misunderstood the line in Robocop 2 when he says "They made this to honor him".
My take is that he was referring to his whole robot body not a fake face.
The main thing that bothers me about the Robocop 2014 film is that the explosion he “dies” from would not cause him to be that fucked up