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Have Pink Floyd finally lost their marbles? Dark Side at 50 missing content from Immersion Edition
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- Have Pink Floyd finally lost their marbles? Dark side at 50 missing content from Immersion Edition
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Today is the official announcement of the new Dark Side of the Mood 50th anniversary Box Set by Pink Floyd. Its VERY expensive and has way less content than the moderately priced Immersion Box Set from 2011.
This is my take on what is going on, and then an unboxing and comparison on what we were treated to in 2011.
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"Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash". Oh, the irony!
They’re the old folks now, time to get greedy af 😂
@@Balrog-tf3bg All bands do if they last long enough.
Yhr dong is sarcastic: Pink Floyd is anti money.
@@missingremote4388 I think Nick Mason's £80+ million car collection would disagree with you there...
@@missingremote4388 Wake up , grow up Mr. Gullible . Floyd being anti money is like brothels being anti sex . Don't be so naive .
I saw Pink Floyd play dark side at the Rainbow Theatre in Finsbury Park in November 1973 at the Robert Wyatt benefit concert and it still remains as the best version of it live
I bought my vinyl copy in...Oh yes, 1973. Still got it of course. No idea where the poster and the stickers went, though. None of us knew what to do with them in those days. Quite a new development for us.
a lot of us Floyd nuts pinned the posters on their bedroom walls......
now that really was immersion !
I lost mine too, lol!!
But yeah I still have the one I bought, for a lot of money, for me at that time, and it still sounds great.
Now I bought a remastered copy at, of all places, Walmart. Since I work there I get a 10% discount. So I got it for $21. It sounds fantastic, and it came with all the goodies the original had. I’m gonna pass on this box set.
Stick them on stuff and hang up the poster lol
You didn't know how to use a poster or stickers? Word?
Poster and stickers go on The Wall
I'm good with the Immersion box set... I'm at a point in my life where I don't care about "new" remixes/remasters/etc...
I am with you there
I’ve always been of the opinion that Dark Side of the Moon is the closest that man has ever come to perfection. I’ve got three versions of the album. One I downloaded from iTunes so I could listen in my phone at work. It came with a live version and a video documentary of the making of the original re-mastering. Next, I bought a re-production vinyl after I gave up on finding a vintage copy that was in good shape after years of searching. Finally, I did find a vintage copy that was in excellent condition that still had the original inserts. Also had the CD but I gave it to my son after he bought his first car.
DSOTM can be improved. Water´s version of Comfortably Numb goes deeper than the original.
@LeBe No. It can be altered, but not improved.
@@andrewhaines3259 It didn´t do the job. Did it make the world a better place? I think hardly anybody got the message, really listened to the words.
Should have kept the CD. The reason that DSOTM stayed on the charts so long is that "audiophiles" kept replacing their vinyl copy after a few plays. Once the CD came out there was no need. Perfect the first play, perfect the 1000th play.
@@lebe220 That's the Wall and Waters thinks he is PF. He's not. Leave it alone.
My favourite album of all time which made a lasting impression on me when I first heard it aged 10 in 1979.
No Doubt!!! I'm willing to bet that Dark Side Of The Moon is the most recognizable album cover of all time.
It so is.
@@MatthewNorthMusic And Atom heart mother
How much are you willing to bet?
I'd have to put the cover of Abbey Road or Sgt. Pepper at #1. Dark Side in the top 5 for sure. No offence to my fellow Floyd freaks out there.
Thriller!
I was surprised of the lack of content in this new remaster box set. I have the Immersion set, the 20th Anniversary cd,30th SACD,Mobile Fidelity gold cd and 1974 Japanese tour edition on vinyl. Im set when it comes to copies of this album. The new Animals remix i do need on CD. Great video!
The Animals remix is a waste of money. There are a lot of little things that made the dark mood of the original that are gone now. They went for clarity over atmosphere and removed things including reverb, David's acoustic textures, etc.
Imagine this, but limited edition, and at a 70's price. Just to be kind. I know, madness. A really interesting video, I was quite unaware of the history of Floyd box sets, but I've now got very good context for where this latest offering sits. An eye watering price, especially in the current financial climate.
The punk band Crass had stickers on their records saying you shouldn't buy it for more than X amount (I think it was like £1.50).
The 50th anniversary of the biggest selling rock LP of all time.
£250 for yet ANOTHER 'Remaster' of the same LP, a previously released 1974 concert and more overpriced memorabilia - and of course, the obligatory overpriced hardback book of photo's we've all seen before - but not one single session out-take or demo, no new interviews or documentary, absolutely no previously unreleased material whatsoever. Disgraceful. All I can hear right now is the sound of the cash registers that open side 2. How many more blu-ray DVD's and 5.1 stereo remixes of the same LP do we possibly need? This is such a wasted opportunity.
You’re absolutely right, wait for it to come out on eBay. Still using my jamo speakers I bought in 1990, they still sound incredible! Your box set is now selling for £250 on eBay!
I am 67 and have been a Floyd fan since my older brother introduced me to them in 1969 with Atom Heart Mother, and I saw them with the Momentary Laps Of Reason tour at Wembley Stadium in 88, there is NO way on earth I would pay that price for this new release. It seems the only thing that matters is "Money" not the fans.
Hello Matthew. Greetings from Vancouver British Columbia Canada. I"m a 66 years of age fan of Pink Floyd that was first introduced to the Floyd sound when I was about 17 years of age. A nice stretch of listening to the music of Pink Floyd but I am certainly not as well informed as you are when it comes to matters about this great band. I was just browsing around UA-cam and by some good old serendipity came upon your channel. Nice job on this piece about PF's Dark Side box set from Immersion and how it compares to the new 50th anniversary edition about this great band. I have been away from collecting music for a bit and am now getting back into it and was just thinking about what I would like to have as a nice bit of memorabilia for some of the artists that I really enjoy. Low and behold I came upon what you presented here and it has helped me immensely in what to look for. This box set from Immersion that you have shown here is a very nice looking set and it might just be what I'm looking for. Now to find it at a price that I think is still fair value I suppose. I can't see buying the new 50th edition with what you have described it as. I would still like some vinyl but I will likely look for that somewhere other than what the 50th has to offer. I liked your presentation so much I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to seeing what else you might be commenting on in regards to music. Thank you and may peace be with you.
The Dark Side immersion set proves that the show from Brighton 1972 was fully recorded....I'd happily pay for that above the 74 Wembley show which has been available for decades
I would have to agree, I think they lost their marbles years ago. This practice (done sadly by a lot of bands) of both trolling and fleecing the fans at the same time is beyond a joke. Its not like they've haven't got enough money/had enough off the fans
You're younger than I. It's hard for me to imagine how it would be to become aware of DSOTM years after its release. I wore it out the year it was released. Honestly, it's a undeniable part of my personal history.
My daughter used to tease me and say Pink Floyd sucked. Last christmas I bought her vinyl copies of DSOTM, WYWH, The Wall and Animals for her record player. As long as we keep playing it, the music will live forever.
It's $299.99 on Amazon here in the States. I'll stick with my old cd.
"Remastering" ever since the age of compact discs began become a marketing magic trick for convince people to buy on a new format an album they already own or create the need for those who doesn't own them yet to buy it at last, and then a cliché for reissues and repressings every few years since the previous release.
The same nowadays for anniversary editions, only worth it for completists and for people who couldn't get or afford the previous anniversary edition a decade ago, even more so since the 2010s vinyl became relevant once again and record companies put whatever you want them or not CDs, vinyl and Bluray discs all together on the package, so basically you're buying two or three times the same contents all at once.
Happy to hear I’m not the only person who prefers Is There Anybody Out There: The Wall Live over the studio recordings 🙂
Every time
Oh yeah anytime I’m going through the albums I always skip over the studio version of the wall. This is probably gonna sound weird, but I don’t even think I own it. Always live version. That’s how you know a band is incredible; when they’re better live.
although the wall live album is a frankenstein of multiple nights from earl's court it's still maybe the best "live" album...
Here's the story about the marbles. Storm Thorgerson explained this to us at an awards ceremony in 2012 which I attended: The marbles were meant to rattle around in the box and create a mysterious rattling sound in order to perplex the buyer. That was the purpose of them. But the factory mistakenly wrapped them in plastic thus defeating the entire point of the loose marbles.
Never knew that. Rattle that Box!
Very good Matt 🌗I don’t know why they don’t do a nice Blu-ray stand-alone release like they did with “Animals”. I’ve got the SACD of DSOTM.
Who knows but there you go. They could learn a lot from Marillion 4 disc box set and book and never more than about £28
absolutely the Marillion sets are fantastic and value for money!! Oi Floyd - No !!
@@terrencesclassicrockcorner I actually own and love the Moving Pictures box set, the YYZ show is the best live Rush I've heard. The Atmos on the Blu-Ray is good fun and the records (although I'm not a fan of the format) are really well mastered and pressed with quality jackets+sleeves. The CD has been altered from the Sean Magee mastering so it's good to have both that and the original on the Blu-Ray stereo layer - both have their upsides to my ears. I rather enjoy the included tat as well (and I don't usually), really nice paper/card stuff and quality trinkets. The book is gorgeous.
I didn't get any of the other 40th anniversary box sets, but I made an exception for Moving Pictures because I was still in search of a version that sounds natural to my ears and it looked really well presented too. Both layers of the Blu-Ray as well as the LP come closer than I've yet heard. I've not heard the coveted 03 Atomic, but I've got the 25.8P which is supposedly similar and sounds frankly bizarre to me. The 2112 box set may have been better value as it was much cheaper back in the day, but most of the musical content was frankly offensive, and I doubt the DVD sounds better than my Japanese AMCY CD. For AFtK, Hemispheres and PeW, I settled for the CD sets for the extra content as I quite like the Sector 2 versions.
Bottom line is, I won't pretend that an album and a 2-hour live show copied across a bunch of different formats for £200 is good value to most people, but I personally got my money's worth out of it as pretty much every track on every disc is useful to me.
Dude, you have TOTALLY nailed it on every aspect of what makes this new 50th Anniversary box such an overpriced, content-poor disappointment. Surely, they could've gone the extra mile and delivered a vinyl box with all or as much of the bonus Immersion content as could be fit onto multiple LP's. And don't even get me started on the fact that they lazily included a hardcover book that can be purchased as a standalone item for far less, much like the 1974 Wembley album (which I plan to get just by itself). Likewise, I can't be the only one who feels that they the dropped the ball even harder on this than with the deluxe "Animals" box (in itself ANOTHER missed opportunity for an Immersion-like experience).
I saw pink floyd at free trade hall manchester 1972, playing dsotm. They played using full quadraphonic sound. I bought their dsotm album version in sq quadraphonic. I had a pioneer quad hifi system at the time.
I was 16 and very rarely skipped school but one day I did, went with a girl named Linda Godwin to her house, her older brother was there, he had some pot, I had never been stoned before but that day I got pretty stoned for the first time. He played a Black Sabbath record then he put on Pink Floyds Umma Gumma, that blew my mind, I was stunned, had never heard anything like it. I asked him who it was he said Pink Floyd, the next day I went to the record store to buy Umma Gumma, the guy there said 'we don't have it' I was very disappointed, so I asked 'well what do you have by them?' he said 'all we have is this' and held up a copy of DSOTM, I sighed and said 'oh ok' still extremely disappointed cause I had my heart set on Umma. i begrudgingly paid for it and drive home hoping it would be at least comparable to Umma. About a week later they began playing Money on the radio and the rest is history about a year later stores had copies of Umma Gumma so I finally git it!, still have that copy of it too.
Hey Matt, thanks for this announcement. I'm liking what's over your right hand shoulder on the shelf in this video! I collect old boomboxes from that era. Well treated ones actually sound pretty decent, and are future proof, being able to accept a Bluetooth receiver through their Aux RCA jacks, or via Bluetooth cassette adaptor.
As for this latest Dark Side reissue, it's all about the almighty buck! The 'Moon has been reissued, remastered, re-remastered, and re-re-re-remasterd so many bloody times it's ridiculous!
I encourage new-to-Floyd listeners to just seek out a good condition Vinyl LP issue of Dark Side, from as close to 1973 as possible, or as early an issue of it on CD, one that does not have the phrase 'remastered' or such on it.
I have a video about the big one on here look up amstrad 8090 :)
The immersion box from 2011 will do me just fine.
The Bootleg version of 74 wembley gig is the one to own cause it includes Echoes unlike the offical version that does not!
It is on the Early Years set. Box only.
For me the reason to keep a bootleg version is because it hasn’t been messed with. Listen to the opening of Time…sounds just like the studio. But that’s not how the band sounded live in 1974. I want to hear the band as band flubs and all.
@@vivalapsych I aggree!
Regarding surround sound, the 5.1 mix is one of the best 5.1 mixes I've heard. I agree that in the cinema the sound for surround mixes is often not immersive, but providing you have the right set up, the 5.1 for Dark Side is incredible, with full use of all 5 speakers. It's truly immersive. I' never listen to the album in stereo, the 5.1 mix is my go to - it's that good. I agree the price for the new box is ridiculous. An easy pass for me; even more so as I own the Immersion set,
It’s rubbish and sounds unnatural. Give me stereo any day.
@@garethde-witt6433 You never heard proper 5.1 equipment. Take your stereo up where it doesn't shine.
@@garethde-witt6433 Not on a decent system, with a mix done well. Some mixes are terrible, but when they are done well there's nothing more immersive.
Among the many versions of this album I got a copy of the German quadraphonic on vinyl with the red band on the top of the cover and still have it but haven't listened to it in a really long time... I never had a true quad set up just a good stereo, turntable amp and speakers etc but I remember being struck by how different it sounded in terms of bits that just weren't there on the original or at least far lower down in the mix and less prominent in stereo... I'd be interested in how much this differs or compares to the newer fangled 5.1 mixes....
@@lucifersamslittertray I also have this version (amongst many others), and it does sound completely different in places
I’ll buy it on vinyl
I DEFINITELY AGREE with that comment on "Is There Anybody Out There"! That version really is tje superior version and REALLY showcases some of Rick Wright's very best piano work. It's absolutely beautiful and it would not be the version it is without him! I've sern them for twice for the 87/88 tour and twice for the 94 but..unfortunately, I didn't get to see all 4 together and while seeing The Wall in 2010 was a once in lifetime chance, I couldn't help but wonder what those original 80/81 shows were like. Good breakdown and I also agree with my older copies sounding just as good. I still have my vinyl copy and Dark Side was the first album I ever owned. It's a masterpiece and for them to 'top' that was a VERY difficult task. Wish You Were Here happens to be Dave's personal favorite. Hmm. 🤔 That's a hard call right there but Dark Side just holds a special place for me. Again, I saw Waters do that too in 2006 but it wasn't the same.
I went skip diving last year when I saw a few LPs on top of some rubbish.
I found a 1973 pressing of dark side of the moon among them. Also some other pink Floyd albums. Their now in my small collection.
That is fantastic well done 👍
Warner music group owns the Pink Floyd catalog. This is on them.
I totally agree with you, we the loyal fans are being ripped off with these exorbitant prices, and not just for Pink Floyd box sets, I'm also a David Bowie fan, and have bought most of the box sets, but the last one, was a rip off
Back to current issue, I will not shell out for the DSOTM box, I own the 73' album and 30th anniversary CD, also bought the 2011 2disc discovery edition, so like you say who needs any more .
kept me interested for full video...very very good...
Honestly, I still listen to all my favourite music in 128/44 mp3 and am overwhelmingly glad.
Not gonna comment about the Pink Floyd side of this, but for film sound, I can wholeheartedly recommend the National Science & Media museum in Bradford. If you’re in the area and a suitably good movie is playing, it really is an experience. I happened to see ‘Dunkirk’ and, while the film itself was a bit confusing, the audio was truly amazing. The random gunfire at the beginning had me ducking in my seat!
So one gets in essence 1 album , a book , atmos , live and a ludicrous price .
I stick to my Immersion box.
If I want to spend money , I want to get something like the Blondie boxset.
And for far less money , I got Lee Hazelwood's " I've been searching for a dream " as a deluxe version with over 300 songs , where the boxset in itself could have won a Grammy for content and presentation.
This is a cashgrab
Money ......get away sung Waters ......
Welcome to the machine
I never could get much from the 5.1 mix but the Quad one is gorgeous. I think that for decades now, Pink Floyd has become more about packaging than music. I think that David Gilmour's heart is in the right place about preserving the band's mystique: outtakes, demos, and repackaged boots do have a warts and all feel to it. What's the alternative? Blow a mortgage payment on a bunch of stuff I already have just for an extra disc or two? What's really left? Some demos, cleaned up boots and alternate takes/mixes? Let's leave something for the Middle Years boxset.
I owned a Marantz 4400 @ this time (1975ish?) and played the quadraphonic LP on my technics turntable. Wholly frick! The very notion of making a modern LP/album ran thru a digitized process? No thank you.
I got a German quad version with the red band years ago, still have it but I only ever played it on a good stereo set up and was blown away how different it sounded to the standard version,.... I own all the 5.1 versions too as a collector does but never had a 5.1 sound system... I really should sort my amp and turntable out and eventually get a 5.1....I'd love to hear the difference between the two and in general...
Thanks for the video! Can you remember what the fault with the Blu-ray from the 2011 box was? As to immersing sound, i hear you. As an audio-man i can tell you (and your viewers) that if you want to feel immersed in sound, you just need 2 x 2 speakers, preferably 2 different sets. Put the bigger/louder ones in front of you, the 2nd set behind you, and switch your amp to 4-channel stereo. After all the experimentation, we found this to be the most immersive.
Just imagine being old enough to get the Pink Floyd super-woop-te- doo Dark Side of the Moon versions on reel-to- reel, 8-track, LP, CD, DAT, CD-Hi.Fi, CD-HD. Every time one is released with all the tchotchkes. Don't forget the version with the home laser show contraption so you can do your own laser show. Not to mention, the the video: Dhe Dark Side of the Rainbow on VHS, Beta, Laser Disk, DVD; and film versions on 8mm, Super-8, 16mm and 35mm.
The original cd masters sound more like how it sounded originally.. the remasters sound bass boosted.. if you pick out the wall .. comfortably numb is sped up slightly on the remaster..
The first big box versions of the wall sound absolutely glorious..
I have no complaints with any of the original Floyd CDs or any 1980s CDs to be perfectly honest
Dark Side of the Moon was on the platter when I was born and has been in my head ever since, apart from when Dad bought Out of the Blue.
Then my little brother was born and the options were Animals or Discovery. Needless to say he was more successful than me.
But I retain the special cartridge.
Very informative. Thank you.
Think I will just keep playing my 1973 LP.....ok, on the quieter bits it does sound like bacon frying but at my age my hearing is shot anyway.
I'm a huge PF fan as well. I agree. The last thing I bought was the Animals remix, which I do enjoy. Otherwise you can't keep remastering an already great sounding album and expect to hear any difference that justifies the price. As far as Darkside, I have a first pressing CD, the Sax remaster CD, the 2011 Experience edition for the live recording, and the 2016 Grundman LP. The only thing I'm really waiting for is a release of The Wall Live Blu-ray which probably won't happen. We don't even know if Roger has enough good footage to make a full length concert release.
I agree with you 100% I'll buy the stand alone live album and I'm good.
I have the 2011 remaster and the 30th anniversary with the super audio CD. I own a Sony Blu-ray player specifically for my 5.1 channel CDs like the SACD. Dark side sounds awesome in 5.1
DSOTM was the first PF album I listened to and it's the one I have bought more times. A Spanish copy was given to me as a souvenir, and after that I bought the LP, The First XI, cassette, CD, 24k gold CD, 20th anniversary, Shine On, 30th, Immersion, etc. etc. etc. I even have the cover versions of the album by many bands, several books and so many other things related to it, but...
You are absolutely right: 50th's price sounds absurd. It could be the first time I let it pass 🤷🏻♂
Remasters are in many cases just an excuse for major labels to re-sell us the same old shit again and again, in worse and worse incarnations. I still have my 70s german LP release (sadly missing the poster since it's used) and my MFSL ultradisc release and i don't need anything else to be honest. I do miss the Alan Parsons Quadrophonic mix sadly. Who knows... maybe one day...
A couple of years ago that would be selling for £150. Revolver was a £120 retailing for £180 and a cheap shoddy pressing from the Czech Republic to cut costs. They are doing what they always do. I'll buy the live album though.
I won't buy anything if it's pressed by GZ they are just awful
@@MatthewNorthMusic Agree 100%
250 quid for a legacy/reputation tainter.Incredible move.
I had all kinds of ridiculous Dark Side merch. back in the 80s: you name it, had a licensed Dark Side baseball cap (a very good one too), a Dark Side silver mirror-inset prism necklace, and, last but not least, a Dark Side of the Moon pewter keychain bottle opener!
At this stage with these albums, remastering is just code for ‘making it louder’. Unless there’s a true case of presenting the songs with justifiable new mixes, as with Revolver, there’s just no point. It’s a cash grab. That said there have been some really great re-issues lately that have benefited from a remix and remaster. Steven Wilson’s work on the Gentle Giant LPs being one of them.
Just pre-ordered my box
got my original version on vinyl since 1980. sounds amazing. bought the cd in the 1990s has the booklet. has huge sound! well compared to the old record.
Hear, Hear ! MONEY, "Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash" i want a new quad or even the old quad mix on new vinyl.
I think you have it in a nutshell. Fifty three years I have followed Floyd.
Many pounds spent purchasing recording’s and concert tickets. Every tour seen. No complaints. However I refuse to spend any money on this box set. Pure commercialism.
Spot on my friend! I have the Immersion box set and feel absolutely no need for anything else, in fact I don’t even play all the discs in that box set lol. I will buy the new live album on vinyl but that’s it. Personally I have zero interest for surround sound audio mixes, if I want surround sound I want the full package which includes video performance ( a la live DVD’s).
Cool upload man, I have my Single Disc copy Pre-Ordered for release day.
Roll on 2024 to see what we get for [ The Division Bell ] 30th Anniversary.
The last few years I always listen to bootlegs more than the studio albums. I have a good amount of live shows from 1971-1981. I wish PF would start putting out “official” bootlegs like the Wembley release. I already had it but the official with the posters is real cool.
Got my original lp from the 70's and then upgraded the sound with the Mobile Fidelity cd in the 90's. That MoFi cd is the last word on Dark Side. I hear things that I never heard on the standard cd or the lp.
I bought the LP in 1980 and the CD in the mid-nineties. That's more than enough for me.
Same / same
Several years ago I bought the Obfuscation box set with the misunderstanding that it contained the Pompeii concert film on blu-ray. Much to my disappointment it was only excerpts and not the complete film. But it was good to have those songs available on a CD, especially the awesome live version of Echoes. I'd love to see a nice blu-ray version of the film released-not the horrible director's cut with the cheap CGI images of Pompeii.
I still have my vinyl copy of Dark Side of the Moon that I got for Christmas with the little freebies, although I lost one of the stickers and the two posters are a little tattered. I am a fan of the band but don't snap up ever remix that comes out, although I might get the recent remix release of Animals. I'm fine with what I have in my library.
The Version of Pompeii on the early years was a mess, some of it was sourced from laserdisc!! Not proper HD. I don't mind the 'Extra' bits not being there the fake 'recording in the studio' stuff and Nicks crustless Apple Pie.. Its a shame Pompeii has never been released with the original sound mix (no heartbeat sound at the start) and splicing together Echoes was awful. One of the joys of Pompeii was it being split into 2 and book-ending the film.
It's not perfect I think, but I found this cleaned up version of Pompeii while scouring the web a while back and saved it. It's in the proper pitch, for one thing, so many versions were pitched up and I never wanted to listen to them...
drive.google.com/file/d/1PTvx7O72Se0Ew_qEcha0Uhk9lKfomHnn/view?usp=sharing
@@MatthewNorthMusic I've noticed Live at Pompeii from Obfuscation sounds terrible! Could you point me toward the best audio quality of Live at Pompeii that I can listen to on my phone?
Most sound bad tbh
The LP"s in the set are cut from digital masters. Digital LP's in a "Deluxe set" Okey Dokey.
Spot-on and we'll articulated. I suspect they are aiming for the people who want the complete everything you can possibly get collection and the people who think they will sell on for a profit once they are out of print.
Thank you
"The quadrophonic isssue sounds different" Amazing!!
Bit crap that we're not getting anything new and actually *less* than the scraps we've had before.
However, that's not important. We should really be getting really, really angry that Pink Floyd are now using a prism, not like the old days when Dark Side was free of such terrifying concepts.
Gilmour wants nothing to do with Pink Floyd, but he doesn't mind making millions in boxed sets and remastering.
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It is not just Pink Floyd doing this.. It is ridiculous how many bands are putting out big beautiful expensive box sets. RUSH for example are going overboard in putting out these Awesome sets! YES has been doing this for years! A Fan can go broke just collecting the newest fine things that legendary bands put out. Imagine the $$ that it would take to collect All of the King Crimson catalogue rareities and such! There is a fine line in being a collector of music! I have not bought an album or CD in 10 years now as I realized that collecting was a futile game. One day I had a very nice collection of All of Iron Maiden. I was shopping and saw that they came out with newer copies with extras from "Castle Records". They were beautiful, but from that point I said NO to buying more of Maiden or Anything ever again. Everything that is available is on the NET! For the most part.. If it is not there, then it probably is not worth the time, IMHO.
Frank Zappa released over 60 albums whilst he was alive. His estate has released more since, and there is a vault full of demos and jams still to go. If you were to buy a full Zappa collection not only would you have spent money on excellent music, you would be an awesome person too. There's no evidence to back that up, but it's fact ;)
Is it Rush or is it the corporation that owns the music?
My vinyl copy is from 1973 and it’s literally been with me my whole life as it belonged to my Dad and I took it when I left home because I was taking the only turntable in the house with me. I don’t play that one regularly because it’s not in the best condition. I usually listen to the MP3 of one of my CD copies. I’m not sure if it’s the one I bought in the early’90’s when I got my first CD deck or the 2003 SACD one. All I care about is that I hear what I’ve heard my whole life. Because I was born years after its release and my Dad is a huge fan, I don’t think there are many other things I know as well as DSoTM.
I *think* the SQ (Quad) version is Australian. The pressing I have is ;)
Thank you
I quite agree. It looks to me as if they're releasing the same thing over and over on the various audio formats that have been developed in the intervening years since the album was first released.
Because they know Pink Floyd fans will buy it. Much like The Beatles fans, they're absolute suckers.
50 year anniversary is a big thing
i hope the target audience is teenagers and 20 somethings ( Do they still collect albums? new cars don't come with CD player)
Thanks Matthew, I was considering buying this new box, but I think I'll stay with Immersion and other different versions. I'll just buy live vinyl to complete my collection.
I totally concur Maciej and will probably do the same thing.
I'm considering getting the 50th anniversary since I do not have the Immersion, I've only got the basic CD. It seems like the biggest thing you miss with the 50th anniversary over the Immersion is the CD3 with early versions and extra tracks. There isn't any way to get a copy just that CD by itself?
I don’t own anything in this box set. I don’t think I even have a physical copy of Dark Side of the Moon. I’m new to music collecting, but I’ve always been big on huge, overstuffed-with-memorabilia box sets just like this. That being said, seeing the price they’re asking for this is just absolutely gutting, especially as a Canadian (the price is $433 here). I don’t know what to do. I want either the 50th or immersion set (which I don’t think I’ll be able to find for under $200), and the immersion set has twice the content, but the 50th set has the Atmos mix and the hardcover book which are also things I’m big on. I’m torn.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm in the same boat as you right down to also being a Canadian. Us Canadians do seem to pay more for everything too. I have travelled extensively all over the world and I try to check out what other countries are paying for their enjoyment of certain items and invariably we usually pay more than most others. The high price of living in a wonderful country I suppose.
Just go buy the 1985 Dark Side of the Moon CD (Harvest- Japanese pressing with black label on CD) and listen to that, it's the best edition of the album, apart from
perhaps, the orig. vinyl pressings. Shouldn't cost more than $50.
got my 1st TDSOTM LP at a Glasgow woolies back in the mid-70s and it skipped like hell !!!
It seems like as the kids who listened to this album in the 70's and 80's aged into real jobs the record company keep coming up with new "enhancements" and boxed sets to continue to separate us from our wallets. But I'm sure that's a coincidence. 🤔😏
I enjoyed the 5.1 darkside of the moon... 2003
"They must have taken my marbles away!"
Crazy
People go crazy for STUFF and then get taken advantage of. All my music are FLAC files on a good server and that’s it, very little physical media. Have a fairly high end system, would much rather spend on great sound reproduction than stuff. It’s all about the music man
I really wish that the Dolby Atmos mix was available as a separate purchase option. If you already have a proper dolby atmos home theater setup, this should hopefully be a fun listening experience. But I can't justify the cost of this.
Been there and back with them since 1974 tremendous catalog. Today no thank you to much uncertainty and the money is tight. Maybe if a hand job came with the box I'd reconsider.
No kidding. I have mfsl and immersion. Along with a dsd128 from 1/2" master at 15ips, which is unreal and smokes the rest
Cool, another jazz/Floyd fan.
Actually got more into just about everything other than Dark Side, after hearing all their less promoted material in more recent years. At 56 most of what we heard was Dark Side played out, while growing up. Then a friend got me into Animals in the mid 80s.
I actually have the Ronnies T Shirt as I was given it after playing 2 Sold out nights there with Mike Westbrook last April :)
That quadraphonic LP you've got seems to have "Jugoton" logo in front, which means it was made in Yugoslavia.
Jugoton later changed it's name to Croatia records.
I’ll wait for 100th anniversary edition !
I once dreamt that my doctor gave me a prescription for dark Side Of The Moon. !
The '11 Immersion is, in my opinion, the best. Better soundstage, a bit more depth, less muddy (which is something that will never be completely cleared up) & instruments clearly present & defined. I have over 30+ versions. According to Hoffman & here, there are only 11 'official' (re)mastering's. But listening across all the versions I have there is a distinct difference between each. Are they true remasters? Who knows? But if fiddling with the dials when preparing the recording (& there is plenty of documentation out there about this) for re-release, it's a remaster to me. But Mathew is spot on when he says that once you've heard it twenty times, there's no need to hear it again. 'Kind of Blue' is a different matter altogether.
Bought a couple of CDs from Torre Records (many years ago of course) that had water damaged CD paper inserts - never really came across it in any other shop, odd.
Re DSotM: That Quad version, and the demo version, are really interesting and together with the live, HiRes and other stuff made the old Immersion well worth the £53 (incl p&p) I paid. And I got marbles (albeit, they're only black with stickers!).
BTW The 4xCD Revolver Super Deluxe I got for £34 as FLACs - great deal.
Funnilly enough it was 1990 when I bought it. It was in Windsor with the booklet. You do not need to remaster it. Unlike the earlier Floyds it has not dated a bit, so it doesn't need remastering.
We know what conclusion the marketing has come to, and it's DSOTM is iconic, so we will charge iconic prices.
The best sounding copy that I own (IMO) is the 1984 US CD manufactured in Japan. Apart from the dual-format CD, I’m going to wait to what HD file sites plan to offer beyond the 2021 24/96 issue.
I agree with you on that. The 1984 Japan issue is best and cleanest version. I have several friends who claim to have 'dibbs' on my CD when I die.
I'm glad you said that because I was just saying above that I still have the 1984 Jap. pressing (black label on CD), and was the first CD someone bought for me
for my first Hitachi CD deck, added to my Sanyo rack system then, and it's without a doubt, the best-sounding CD pressing of the album that I've heard. My first ever
copy of Dark Side was the US cassette version. I don't own it anymore, sadly.
I know exactly what you mean about listening to the album. Whilst I'm not like it with DSoTM, I am with Star Wars EP4. I've watched it so many times I have it memorised, as such, I've not viewed 4,5 or 6 in years. So I totally understand what you mean.
Regarding this new release, I really wanted it, up until I saw the price. I just cannot justify it. I have the present remastered available edition so will be sticking with that.
I'm with you on star wars and back to the future!
I'm looking forward to the 51st anniversary extended, expanded, re-re-mastered quintuple channel cosmic remix edition.
Beautiful. I really appreciate your deep understanding of TDSOTM. Really enjoyed this video.
Sometimes I like to just listen or watch the original version of albums or movies. We keep getting resold the same product new and remastered. I like to experience things the way people first did, especially if it’s something I’ve never seen or heard. For example the film Blade Runner has multiple cuts, and sometimes I just want to watch the original Theatrical cut even if it has it flaws.
I feel the same way about Dark Side as you. I’ve listened to it so many times. Put it on every once in awhile, but usually I’d rather listen to more deep cut Floyd.
The Flaming Lips did an interesting version of the album. I love giving that a listen. They do their own thing with the album. They also did a Sgt Pepper album worth checking out. They kind of butcher the album at points but I love it. 😂
I love this video. Thanks for the heads up on the live version aka the only piece of the set I want. I put a preorder up on that!
I was buying new LP's in around 2010 but then they upped the prices to over 20 US dollars and I stopped. They were also putting out more rare and cultish albums that were hard to find (John Lee Hooker and Bo Diddley for a couple) but now, just the most popular ones.
Yes around that time 2005-10 Lps were at a sensible price and of excellent quality. now there expensive and not as good. Esp pressed by GZ
I bought the "Shine On" box set when it released. When I received it there were errors on the Dark Side Of The Moon CD. It mislabelled the track list. My friend bought it too and his never had the error. So as it was meant to be a limited edition, I guess my box is a very limited edition. The only downside is the friend stole my CD holder that came with it, because he used his and it wore out really quickly.