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Part of world where I live and farm, hay bailing is some thing entirely new for majority of farmers. Green fodder cut and chopped daily is feed to cattle. With changing times and technology I am also gearing myself of hay usage/ bailing. Plan to start with a rotary drum mower 😊. All this equipment, specially made in west is so dam expensive 😊🥰🙏. Happy farming mate, don’t lose heart
My tips and tricks. Keep belts the same ages. Splices the same lengths roughly. These 2 items mean the belts stretch evenly. Creating a even non barreled bale. Concentrate on packing the edges. The book says. 1/2 width of bale windrow or full width of bale windrow either or. You need to cary a water type fire extinguisher. A laser thermometer to check bearing temperatures.
Packing the edges was always important. The The middle will fill up as you weave. Twine is easier to work with. Net wrap is good when you roll hay for others. Takes much less time to wrap.
From my experience with round balers the noise could be the belt clips hitting the metal drum since the belts are going the opposite way to the cylinder the bale forms on, round balers don't really like the door being closed and no hay in the chamber for too long, also everything echoes in the empty space! Although I like balers with control boxes they always seem to be bleeping about something, my first round baler was a Farmhand/ Vermeer 504C with one cord that worked the twine arm and apply the string and the other to cut it...... never had a problem!!!
God to see your Past Videos posted again, enjoyed your channel, then it was gone.... I learned a lo about welding, even if I do not do so much of it. Great info. Make some new Content please.
I owned the model 654 that preceded yours. Had to rebuild the pickup at the approx. the same bale count as yours. At 7K bales, cam track bearings, guides etc. are worn out. That's what causing most of the noise when running empty. Would advise you to pull the pickup out and overhaul ASAP before it has a litter of puppies when rain is coming! You did buy a great baler. It's as dependable and functional of a rd. baler as ever designed. Good luck!
I bought the same one last year for less than 3 grant, it went smooth all season with hay and alfalfa, just had to change a few teeth and bearings on the pickup, no biggy, they are pretty well made machines
I have a 664, the banging while you was outside the tractor is the feed roller gears being worn, no big deal, mine has about 6.5K bales and does this. The loud noise when you initiated the manual net is your duckbill hitting the roller, that needs adjusted on the RH side by the net cut. Actuator error is the cut actuator not being in the correct pos at a specific time as the bale is made, not cutting on mine was that the netting was not correct for the NH's, they are pretty sensitive to the net.
Gears on the sledge rollers more than likely are worn and bouncing around. Had red balers for years. Loved em. Made great looking bales. Went green last year and now ask myself why I didn’t go green before.
I had a 650 and it did not like wet hay. Also get a couple of sets of roller clutches. They are on the pickup and on the lower rollers.. bales looked pretty tight.. check your roller hydraulic fluid also... enjoy..
From what i can tell, the knife need to be resharpened, (professionally). And it has to be tensioned correctly, (that procedure is in the book). Make sure the brake is is actually stoppinng the roll when it is supposed to quit. Finally some balers only like certain brands of net wrap
nice bales Steve, nice when a used equipment buy works out. I'd suggest another 2 fire extinguishers, you've got about 11 seconds on that single, not enough for a belt friction fire.
Bought myself a cheap soft core baler. Had some problems the whole first year. Sloppy bales. While putzing around last week I found the diagram inside the side panel with instructions on making denser bales. Replaced 30 pickup teeth. I'm eager to test it out again, feeling much more confident this time around.
Heard of someone lugging down a 120 hp tractor on soft core baler. Made 2k lb bales. Bent every roller. My dad loves his mush bales. Dad didn’t want to do that so he made 700 lbs dandelion bunches.
@@nalley6815 I don't think mine were even 400 lbs when I started last year. It got better, maybe closer to 1000 by the third crop. It took a LOT of twine, though.
@@tylers7390 what kinda baler do you have? Some soft core balers will actually make a pretty decent bale but most are pretty light. My TIGHT 4x5’s were pushing 800 pounds
@@nalley6815 Case 8480. Not sure what my dad used, but he had his dialed in perfectly. I'm hoping to make a decent bale that will hold its shape this year!
It’s a good baler just have to fine tune it,by reading operators manual,I have exactly the same baler in NZ and can do more than 450 bales in a day! That banging noise when empty could be the rollers in it have dents and are touching each other when rotating
I have 2 old Vermeer balers. Vermeer company recommends at least an 80 horse power tractor to run those balers. My balers weight 7500 lbs each. My 4010 john deere weights more then your tractor. It handles my balers easy. Nebraska tests said the 4010 tractor puts out 73 horse power.
I saw a guy buy a new Holland baler and the meshwrap wouldn't work properly. The mesh wrap wouldn't cut when it should, it covered the bale with half of the roll, then it wrapped on the roller. Such a mess. Id suggest manually unrolling a bale or two and make the baler make a bale during your testing procedures.
Sorry to see/hear that you might have gotten a broken baler.......Maybe our family simply got fortunate to buy used machinery at dealers that took their jobs, and customer service, seriously. But whenever we bought used hay equipment (swathers (2); square balers (3); big round baler (1); accumulator & loader attachment/fork (1); hay rakes (2))...or our tractors (5)... the dealerships always allowed us to test operate the equipment on their properties, before we ever paid for the machinery. During the decades that we farmed, the only brand new equipment we ever had were a JD swather; a JD square baler; a JD round baler; and an 8-"spinning wheel" type of rake (brand escapes my memory).
@Official Welding & Farming Archive I am just curious what you have written on the side(s) of the baler, in what looks like white or silver Sharpie (or paint?)? Are they reminder notations for some type of settings? Or a list of things that you are finding wrong?
If it's a 5 by 6 it's gonna make it pretty tough on that 70 hp baler are from my experience it's pretty tough on it I went to a hundred horse myself just so it wasn't straining
I think if I tried cutting and baling hay I'd end up with the same problems LOL. Never done any of it before, let alone mess with a baler of any type. Just looks like a big box of what in the world did I get myself into problems HAHA!!!
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Dad bought a square baker used once and it would fail to tie every third or fourth bale, gets real annoying real fast having to keep jumping off the tractor so often. 🚜
Thicker twine could do it. Inspect the knotters for busted parts. It takes a deep dive to fix them, but check Messick's for diagrams. Very helpful. Their parts run on the expensive end, but it's worth it to get the right stuff.
Good day, I have a new holland 654 press and it won't retract the mesh when making a bale Good day, I have a new holland 654 press and it won't retract the mesh when making a ball
In this video you said this is the first time you ran a round baler. Then how come you have a video made 2 months or so ago stating that you bought a Brand New Round Baler. So if you used the new baler 2 or 3 months according to the video then why waste your money on a used baler and saying this is the First time you ran a round baler?
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Don't get discouraged we all have issues with hay equipment sometime or an other. Good luck.
Part of world where I live and farm, hay bailing is some thing entirely new for majority of farmers. Green fodder cut and chopped daily is feed to cattle. With changing times and technology I am also gearing myself of hay usage/ bailing. Plan to start with a rotary drum mower 😊. All this equipment, specially made in west is so dam expensive 😊🥰🙏. Happy farming mate, don’t lose heart
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My tips and tricks. Keep belts the same ages. Splices the same lengths roughly. These 2 items mean the belts stretch evenly. Creating a even non barreled bale. Concentrate on packing the edges. The book says. 1/2 width of bale windrow or full width of bale windrow either or. You need to cary a water type fire extinguisher. A laser thermometer to check bearing temperatures.
Packing the edges was always important. The
The middle will fill up as you weave. Twine is easier to work with. Net wrap is good when you roll hay for others. Takes much less time to wrap.
You just gave Steve's sons a memory they won't soon forget. That in itself makes it a great day. Your banter to the camera is always entertaining.
From my experience with round balers the noise could be the belt clips hitting the metal drum since the belts are going the opposite way to the cylinder the bale forms on, round balers don't really like the door being closed and no hay in the chamber for too long, also everything echoes in the empty space! Although I like balers with control boxes they always seem to be bleeping about something, my first round baler was a Farmhand/ Vermeer 504C with one cord that worked the twine arm and apply the string and the other to cut it...... never had a problem!!!
Man, you have done a great job and as you know ,everyone needs a Steve on a farm, good on you guys
God to see your Past Videos posted again, enjoyed your channel, then it was gone....
I learned a lo about welding, even if I do not do so much of it. Great info. Make some new Content please.
I owned the model 654 that preceded yours. Had to rebuild the pickup at the approx. the same bale count as yours. At 7K bales, cam track bearings, guides etc. are worn out. That's what causing most of the noise when running empty. Would advise you to pull the pickup out and overhaul ASAP before it has a litter of puppies when rain is coming!
You did buy a great baler. It's as dependable and functional of a rd. baler as ever designed.
Good luck!
I bought the same one last year for less than 3 grant, it went smooth all season with hay and alfalfa, just had to change a few teeth and bearings on the pickup, no biggy, they are pretty well made machines
Hey chuck...ee. man its good to see your old stuff again.
Nice to see the proud reaction on the face of the kid, when you said his father fixed it 🙂
I have a 664, the banging while you was outside the tractor is the feed roller gears being worn, no big deal, mine has about 6.5K bales and does this. The loud noise when you initiated the manual net is your duckbill hitting the roller, that needs adjusted on the RH side by the net cut. Actuator error is the cut actuator not being in the correct pos at a specific time as the bale is made, not cutting on mine was that the netting was not correct for the NH's, they are pretty sensitive to the net.
Gears on the sledge rollers more than likely are worn and bouncing around. Had red balers for years. Loved em. Made great looking bales. Went green last year and now ask myself why I didn’t go green before.
What model green sir?
I had a 650 and it did not like wet hay. Also get a couple of sets of roller clutches. They are on the pickup and on the lower rollers.. bales looked pretty tight.. check your roller hydraulic fluid also... enjoy..
we have to clean knife mechanism with air and apply oil to cut net perfectly. After winter some rust doesn't let it work until surfaces are smooth
From what i can tell, the knife need to be resharpened, (professionally). And it has to be tensioned correctly, (that procedure is in the book). Make sure the brake is is actually stoppinng the roll when it is supposed to quit. Finally some balers only like certain brands of net wrap
nice bales Steve, nice when a used equipment buy works out. I'd suggest another 2 fire extinguishers, you've got about 11 seconds on that single, not enough for a belt friction fire.
Bought myself a cheap soft core baler. Had some problems the whole first year. Sloppy bales. While putzing around last week I found the diagram inside the side panel with instructions on making denser bales. Replaced 30 pickup teeth. I'm eager to test it out again, feeling much more confident this time around.
Heard of someone lugging down a 120 hp tractor on soft core baler. Made 2k lb bales. Bent every roller. My dad loves his mush bales. Dad didn’t want to do that so he made 700 lbs dandelion bunches.
@@elischultes6587 a soft core baler will not make 2000 pound bales. A 5x6 belt baler won’t even make 2000 pound bales. Unless they are wet
@@nalley6815 I don't think mine were even 400 lbs when I started last year. It got better, maybe closer to 1000 by the third crop. It took a LOT of twine, though.
@@tylers7390 what kinda baler do you have? Some soft core balers will actually make a pretty decent bale but most are pretty light. My TIGHT 4x5’s were pushing 800 pounds
@@nalley6815 Case 8480. Not sure what my dad used, but he had his dialed in perfectly. I'm hoping to make a decent bale that will hold its shape this year!
It’s a good baler just have to fine tune it,by reading operators manual,I have exactly the same baler in NZ and can do more than 450 bales in a day! That banging noise when empty could be the rollers in it have dents and are touching each other when rotating
Yep, have one of these in NZ also. Good balers.
I have 2 old Vermeer balers. Vermeer company recommends at least an 80 horse power tractor to run those balers. My balers weight 7500 lbs each. My 4010 john deere weights more then your tractor. It handles my balers easy. Nebraska tests said the 4010 tractor puts out 73 horse power.
I saw a guy buy a new Holland baler and the meshwrap wouldn't work properly. The mesh wrap wouldn't cut when it should, it covered the bale with half of the roll, then it wrapped on the roller. Such a mess. Id suggest manually unrolling a bale or two and make the baler make a bale during your testing procedures.
Old balers here are ether scrapped after 4 to 5 seasons or spend their final use baling straw..
McHale, Lely Welger and Claas the most common brand.
Does anyone know what baler he finally ended up with. I know he purchased a Vermeer after this one. I think he hated that one and got another?
Sorry to see/hear that you might have gotten a broken baler.......Maybe our family simply got fortunate to buy used machinery at dealers that took their jobs, and customer service, seriously. But whenever we bought used hay equipment (swathers (2); square balers (3); big round baler (1); accumulator & loader attachment/fork (1); hay rakes (2))...or our tractors (5)... the dealerships always allowed us to test operate the equipment on their properties, before we ever paid for the machinery. During the decades that we farmed, the only brand new equipment we ever had were a JD swather; a JD square baler; a JD round baler; and an 8-"spinning wheel" type of rake (brand escapes my memory).
Sounds like it may have a bad bearing or two... if you lock the gate up so belts are slack grab the ends of the rollers see which have much play
Great video..I watch all your video's..Keep up the good work and be careful. I work around alot of equipment also..Take Care..!
@Official Welding & Farming Archive I am just curious what you have written on the side(s) of the baler, in what looks like white or silver Sharpie (or paint?)? Are they reminder notations for some type of settings? Or a list of things that you are finding wrong?
Nice score Chuck, it's not even broke in yet.
And it did that because maybe not a full bale? Would this be the case by chance
If it's a 5 by 6 it's gonna make it pretty tough on that 70 hp baler are from my experience it's pretty tough on it I went to a hundred horse myself just so it wasn't straining
Why is there a fire extinguisher on the side?
great job enjoy watching your you tube channel
Been watching you on the tubes for some time now. Did you ever get married?
think you had trouble last year's first bale too i remember
yay mechanic steve
just wait till you get that moment when you open the door and realise you haven't run a successful wrap cycle...lolz, start rolling at that point.
My 640 baler makes exactly the same noises when running empty
I own one of these balers and u have to have patience with them
“Come on gage that down” !!!
I can't believe this guy is reposting these old videos from years ago.
I think if I tried cutting and baling hay I'd end up with the same problems LOL. Never done any of it before, let alone mess with a baler of any type. Just looks like a big box of what in the world did I get myself into problems HAHA!!!
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Its LITERALLY the only game I play
Nope, not scammed. Learning curve. A little operator ignorance. Good deal.
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There is blades you need to sharpen behind the teeth
Dad bought a square baker used once and it would fail to tie every third or fourth bale, gets real annoying real fast having to keep jumping off the tractor so often. 🚜
try thicker twine. Greasing may help too
Thicker twine could do it. Inspect the knotters for busted parts. It takes a deep dive to fix them, but check Messick's for diagrams. Very helpful. Their parts run on the expensive end, but it's worth it to get the right stuff.
Good day, I have a new holland 654 press and it won't retract the mesh when making a bale
Good day, I have a new holland 654 press and it won't retract the mesh when making a ball
knives need sharpened, believe me, I know
In this video you said this is the first time you ran a round baler. Then how come you have a video made 2 months or so ago stating that you bought a Brand New Round Baler. So if you used the new baler 2 or 3 months according to the video then why waste your money on a used baler and saying this is the First time you ran a round baler?
As a life long tractor operator, VERY unsafe position for the child!
Um inside the cab?? How is that so unsafe?