Just started with lga3647 for my homelab. Didn't know about the trays being used as part of the installation procedure. Actually bought a lga3647 tray based on your advice. 🙂
I just got the board 1 week ago, namely X12DAI ;) Just say that no-ilm design is pretty genius. This eliminates any possibility of cpu dropping into the pins or finger touching the pins situation(because your fingers will not get anywhere near the pins), drastically decreases the chance of losing memory or pcie channels for large CPUs(because the large ILMs like what LGA4094 has pushes the CPU too hard and may force it to bend a little bit, thus creating bad-contact pins), and eliminates the possibility of misalign or wrong orientation . In fact, I've benchmarked more than 10 LGA3647 CPUs and several boards, performing nearly 100 installation processes in the process, and the success rate is 100%(when the CPU is clean). Intel actually has an installation guide for this kind of socket on its main site, but people just don't watch nothin, shove the CPU in the board, use some unfitting screws, then ask me why only half the memory channels work ;_;
I had to search google and youtube for way too long to find this video. Edit: the tip that really helped me get a proper mount without a torque tool was to 'feel' when the nuts bottom out then back them off a quarter turn. I had tried for HOURS and kept either having missing DDR channels or missing PCIE lanes. But first attempt with this trick and I got it right.
It's been a while since I got to install a CPU. This mounting system looks really good. Those freaking sockets have me scared to death since I screwed up a 1155 mainboard and $80 was a lot of money for junior me. "Just plop it in straight down" they say, "it's not that hard" they say, but the pins are just way too damn touchy and I'm not a robot either.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I honestly wasn't sure if the screw-down order changed anything anyway to be honest. I would never just screw them in fully anyway on the first round, always scared of it to not fit. 2-3 Rounds at least. 1234,1234... The anti-tilt could solve that, that's nice, but I would still screw them in several times. :D The launch date was so long ago, but somehow it seems you still can't buy them as a small customer, is that correct?
holy shit 80% through this video now and there is no freaking way i would been able to install these easily without this video, what the hell is intel thinking? the threadripper installation is literally self explanatory, this thing is like a mess haha
Thank you for this video, i haven't gotten through all of it yet, but i am very confused by this socket. I am looking at this motherboard: X12SPi-TF and it does mention LGA-4189 (Socket P+) but what does "Socket P+" mean? Is that P4 or P5?
@@ServeTheHomeVideo So p4, gotcha! thanks for the video, very helpful, i am building a new home server with an ice lake xeon, just recevied the noctua cooler and i must say that bracket made confused, especially the little screwdriver included in it, which appears to be the lever mechanism discussed in the end of this video :) now i only have to figure out how to not over torque the thing once i get the motherboard.
Sockets need to expand in the server space as connectivity goes up. More pins are needed which means new sockets. On the cooler side, it is an opportunity to improve. I actually really like this solution.
It's a good video, but the intro is waaay too long. Skip the first 12:00 min to get right to the installation sans history and save yourself some time.
Nice video. Umm… how can I buy Xeon scalable 3rd gen silver 4316? I live in South Korea so I should buy at US internet store such as Amazon and deliver to South Korea. Thx for reading this. Have a good day! Sorry for bad english :(
SP3 in some ways is easier. I have also had an EPYC clip that had a small bit of damage and the CPU fell into a socket (bad). I think SP3 is much better than Xeon E5 (HPE's design was, of course, similar.) Once you understand the Intel solution, it is very easy to work with.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo that seems to be an issue with repeated use of the Epyc clips, they get material fatigue at some point. Is there a spec for the lifetime of them somewhere? ua-cam.com/video/IlL0nTYAvD0/v-deo.htmlm40s
Wow, this is so awesome!
A new xeon socket is such a rare event these days
I was just talking to a co worker with this exact discussion! Thank you!
Just started with lga3647 for my homelab. Didn't know about the trays being used as part of the installation procedure. Actually bought a lga3647 tray based on your advice. 🙂
I just got the board 1 week ago, namely X12DAI ;)
Just say that no-ilm design is pretty genius. This eliminates any possibility of cpu dropping into the pins or finger touching the pins situation(because your fingers will not get anywhere near the pins), drastically decreases the chance of losing memory or pcie channels for large CPUs(because the large ILMs like what LGA4094 has pushes the CPU too hard and may force it to bend a little bit, thus creating bad-contact pins), and eliminates the possibility of misalign or wrong orientation .
In fact, I've benchmarked more than 10 LGA3647 CPUs and several boards, performing nearly 100 installation processes in the process, and the success rate is 100%(when the CPU is clean). Intel actually has an installation guide for this kind of socket on its main site, but people just don't watch nothin, shove the CPU in the board, use some unfitting screws, then ask me why only half the memory channels work ;_;
I had to search google and youtube for way too long to find this video.
Edit: the tip that really helped me get a proper mount without a torque tool was to 'feel' when the nuts bottom out then back them off a quarter turn. I had tried for HOURS and kept either having missing DDR channels or missing PCIE lanes. But first attempt with this trick and I got it right.
44 seconds since upload, that's a record for me.:)
You are FAST!
It's been a while since I got to install a CPU. This mounting system looks really good. Those freaking sockets have me scared to death since I screwed up a 1155 mainboard and $80 was a lot of money for junior me. "Just plop it in straight down" they say, "it's not that hard" they say, but the pins are just way too damn touchy and I'm not a robot either.
"Let's get these CPUs out on a tray. Mhh nice"
Here i am all happy to hopefully find my self a 4210 some day & now there are new cpu's coming out ! BAH !
I totally have a pair of these wating to be installed!! Saved me, oh wait... pentium.
Tim Breaker, Jack Reacher's arch nemesis.
Yeah we'd like to interview Tim Breaker 😏
Hi Patrick, nice video as usual but we probably also wanted to see a demo of the uninstallation process...
It is exactly the reverse of the installation process with the exception of the TIM Breaker lever shown.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks.
I knew it. I always thought that high end cpus get made to big customers specifications.
That clipping looks better than on second gen. I was always scared, that it drops out with the second gen version.
It is. And the new wire anti-tilt feature means you do not have to keep the same screw-down order.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I honestly wasn't sure if the screw-down order changed anything anyway to be honest. I would never just screw them in fully anyway on the first round, always scared of it to not fit. 2-3 Rounds at least. 1234,1234...
The anti-tilt could solve that, that's nice, but I would still screw them in several times. :D
The launch date was so long ago, but somehow it seems you still can't buy them as a small customer, is that correct?
This video is outstanding!
Excellent guide!
Hmm... That LGA3647 experience at referenced at 14:57 probably involved a certain Xeon Platinum 8180, eh? 🙃
If I had to guess it was probably a 4116T. The Platinum 8180's we mostly had installed in certain dual and quad socket systems.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo At least, the one that I remembered was this: ua-cam.com/video/vbLGiaAzoQo/v-deo.html
holy shit 80% through this video now and there is no freaking way i would been able to install these easily without this video, what the hell is intel thinking? the threadripper installation is literally self explanatory, this thing is like a mess haha
Great how to guide
I don’t think that the people you saw had to install New generation scalable Xeons but a “1st. Generation” with a price of about $100.
Thank you for this video, i haven't gotten through all of it yet, but i am very confused by this socket. I am looking at this motherboard: X12SPi-TF and it does mention LGA-4189 (Socket P+) but what does "Socket P+" mean? Is that P4 or P5?
That SM board is Ice Lake
@@ServeTheHomeVideo So p4, gotcha! thanks for the video, very helpful, i am building a new home server with an ice lake xeon, just recevied the noctua cooler and i must say that bracket made confused, especially the little screwdriver included in it, which appears to be the lever mechanism discussed in the end of this video :) now i only have to figure out how to not over torque the thing once i get the motherboard.
one thing i wonder a lot lately... why do these companies constantly reinvent the wheel?
Sockets need to expand in the server space as connectivity goes up. More pins are needed which means new sockets. On the cooler side, it is an opportunity to improve. I actually really like this solution.
If you buy just one as an upgrade process, do you get a tray or a tray for a single processor ?
Most of ours come in trays like this.
It's a good video, but the intro is waaay too long. Skip the first 12:00 min to get right to the installation sans history and save yourself some time.
Nice video.
Umm… how can I buy Xeon scalable 3rd gen silver 4316?
I live in South Korea so I should buy at US internet store such as Amazon and deliver to South Korea.
Thx for reading this.
Have a good day!
Sorry for bad english :(
Probably hard right now since Intel and AMD are focusing on the higher end parts
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Oh… I see..
I should wait more times… :/
Thank you for the reply!
Tip, before you even start apply a little EPYC to the thought process. End result will be much better. Kidding of course ... or am I ?
21:52 You probably mean 8 inch-pounds?
Yes, I should have said "in-lbft" but as a car guy misspoke. That clarification is in the description as well as the top favorited comment.
SP3 seems a lot easier to do
SP3 in some ways is easier. I have also had an EPYC clip that had a small bit of damage and the CPU fell into a socket (bad). I think SP3 is much better than Xeon E5 (HPE's design was, of course, similar.) Once you understand the Intel solution, it is very easy to work with.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo that seems to be an issue with repeated use of the Epyc clips, they get material fatigue at some point. Is there a spec for the lifetime of them somewhere?
ua-cam.com/video/IlL0nTYAvD0/v-deo.htmlm40s
@@tommihommi1 Server CPU sockets are generally rated for something like
Yeah we'd like to interview Tim Breaker 😏