Thank you for saying something on Holmes. Kid is doing a great job. Getting experience, hasn’t been tearing stuff up, has a had several good showings. Easier to to call him out for not winning than it is to appreciate what he is doing I guess.
Tanner's case is so easy to look at that anyone who pays any attention to racing would understand. Not everybody who gets in a ride is Kyle Larson. I don't know why everyone keeps expecting every new driver to win instantly. It is actually insane and is leading to self-fulfilling prophecy of driver rotations around the country. Tanner's been racing 410's for 2 years, and most of that racing is on the same tracks. Sure, he did Ohio Speedweek and the occasional midwest stuff, but most of it is out west on the same few tracks. Most of the non 1/2 mile tracks he's been just fine at, which was expected because of how the west coast tracks would compare. I have no idea how anyone would expect him to go Eldora, Williams Grove, and Port Royal, 3 places hes NEVER been to, and just start racking off wins or podiums or even top 5's. Not only are those 3 tracks some of the hardest to win or even do well at in the country, the competition at all 3 is some of the highest as well. You quickly saw that Chase Randall's Tusky 50 appearance was almost a fluke because the next 2 nights he was nowhere near that fast. He doesn't race on half miles, ever. Outside of knoxville a few times. By the end of the half mile trip he racked up a top 10 at Port of all places. People need to chill and really let drivers learn some dam tracks and get time with a new crew. As stated here, his numbers are actually pretty crazy taking everything into account.
I am a 76 year old Sprintcar fan for over 50 years and started watching Tanner quite awhile ago when he was racing his family owned car. I love seeing the young guys coming up and doing so well in the Sprints. It is my FIRM belief that dirt is for racing and pavement is for getting to the track. I saw one of my very first ever dirt races in 1953 when I was a whole 6 years old, been watching ever since.
As a born and raised Oregonian who grew up in the midget/sprint car pits of the PNW, I am proud to watch Tanners career taking off. Kid seems genuine and looks to put the work in. Hope for more success in the future for him.
Thanks for putting Tanner’s record in context. His learning curve has to be nearly vertical with new tracks, a new (ish) car and crew, and a schedule that is easily triple what he’s used to. Kudos to Shark racng for giving him the opportunity to grow and for recognizing the amazing talent that Carly is as a full crew member instead of just a tire chaser. Racing is a harsh mistress so he needs some more A Main appearances. That 9th at Port will help
Been following Tanner on UA-cam for about five years I think. If you remember, Justin, he was one of the young shoes I recommended back when you asked in a show "If You Were A Team Owner, Who Would You Hire To Drive Your Car?" And that was before Bobby Allen hired him to finish out the season in Jacob's car. He's doing great. Give him time. Your comparison to Zeb Wise's record at approximately the same point in their careers is valid and telling. I hope Bobby keeps him in the 1T next season, but if he doesn't, Tanner will find another quality ride, I am certain.
I’ve seen Tanner race at a couple tracks in CA and at Skagit in WA, there’s a huge crowd of kids around his car after the races and he takes a pic and signs stuff for all of them. Super nice guy and seems really appreciative to have the following, I think that goes a long way too. His mom and whoever else runs his merch table is really nice too
sorry junior but this is America where we enjoy Free Speech, you may not like what the haters are saying but they have every right to say it, just like you have the right to tell people to shut the hell up, We have the right not to listen to you and neve shut up
@midnight-2021 I think she will do much better in the car the truck series is full of untalented drivers but you must of not watched the SRX series Hallie hung with some of the greatest drivers to ever put on a helmet so to say that Hallie isn't talented is going way to far. Besides she is the only Woman to ever win a Nascar sanctioned event in fact she won twice
The haters have NO reason. Tanner is an intelligent young man who with his family has engineered a good career--he knows how to promote his team. His transparency before and after each race is interesting and enjoyable.
Tanner is a very talented young man. Fans who have never driven a sprint car don't have a clue of how hard it is to go fast on a slick track. Tanner is very fast when there is some grip and he can still control the car and go forward on a slick track. Running with the Outlaws will only make him better and better.
So he’s in a different chassis different motor and going to tracks he’s never seen And going up against the best in the business Plus he’s not ran a 410 a lot give him a chance We need young drivers that create a following and he’s a great ambassador for this sport
I can truthfully say Tanner has himself an international fan base. I stumbled across his channel and took a liking to a kid who has his head screwed on. Its clear his parents do support him and his sister Carly to go racing but its also clear that they themselves put a lot of time and effort into working on their own racecars. JMO but I do think Tanner has done quite well in the 1T, learning a new car, a new team and new tracks against the best in the business and scoring top 5 and top 10 finishes is no mean feat. He's also not tearing heaps of equipment up on the regular either. Every success that'll come his way in the future is thoroughly deserved. Its just sad that people will hate on the bloke because he has the ability to promote himself and promote sprintcar racing to new audiences.
I have been following Tanner for about 3 years on UA-cam. He definitely is getting better over time. He does look after his equipment and is very fair on the track. Having a top class ride will be very beneficial in the long run. Even his little 15 year old sister Carly does a pretty good job in a sprintcar.
I didn't know about the Zeb Wise Vs Tanner Holmes stats, but it seems to me Holmes is doing a great job in the 1T car given what he has to work with. I don't think Shark racing has the resources of a Gravel or Sweet team, but they do a lot with what they have.
Met Tanner at Waynesfield during oh speedweek two years ago, great young man. Remember all, most these tracks he is seeing for the first time and not usually rookie friendly.
Finally someone who pulls up the real stats! Some have put unrealistic expectations on Tanner. I think he's done a phenomenal job in the 1T. He's really only had a handful of 410 starts before getting into that ride. PA was tough on him, but it was for his whole team as well. No matter what happens for next year, he's going to be a lot better for everything he is learning.
I figured if Tanner could keep it in the mains and not tear stuff up, it would be considered a successful partnership to finish out the year. Bobby gets eyes on his car, they sell some merch together, and Tanner gets a ton of valuable experience. I think he has been doing a pretty fine job so far given all the factors. Here in Oregon, there is another young guy that raced with Tanner in both limiteds and 360s, Tyler Thompson, who is also a great young guy that is good with fans and friendly. The Thompson operation is lower budget than the Holmes operation and he doesn't get to travel as much, but they were the two "young guns" in the area battling it out and had some exciting races. I'm happy for Tanner but would also like to see what Tyler could do with a big opportunity as well, but of course there aren't enough big opportunities like that to go around.
Great breakdown on Tanners results. They are actually better than i thought number wise. Hes a talented young man with a bright future. Also ive noticed Bobbys cars are looking better since Tanner came onboard.Its a great combo of a older man and a younger man teaming up in sport that can use both experience and youth to succeed.
Justin, i'd be curious as to where Allen/Holmes combined points would put them in the WOO points standing for drivers. Maybe a quick update on that in your show. If any of the haters show up where Tanner races, from his Mom, she can't believe people are driving 200 miles to watch him race in the Midwest and East coast. I know because she told me at Knoxville. And this was before he joined the WOO. Tracks get more attendance when Tanner races. A number of those are kids, kid racers, etc. Just look at the lines for merch and to get a photo with Tanner after the race.
Sprint car racing is very lucky to have two young drivers the caliber of Tanner Holmes and Zeb Wise. Both are mature well past their years and both know what that pedal on the right is for. If I remember right when Zeb attained the Rudeen ride. The nay sayers we’re talking then too. I always thought/knew Zeb was a solid pick.
Haters....really crawl back under your rock!!! A couple of things not mentioned: Most of the PA Posse has the talent to run every night with the outlaws, just not the checkbook. 58 cars in the pits, let's see anyone with 19 WoO starts get in a car and compete. It seems that the nights he struggled, the 1s car has also. Shark racing, although a good team is not one of the most well funded. The team, I heard, still has to sleep in the hauler on occasion . In 19 starts, Tanner has brought the car home in one piece every time so far. Bobby Allen ain't no fool, he saw the Attention that Tanner got and knew that would help his teams also.
I don't expect Tanner to step in and be a super star right off the bat. I think that he is doing well and learning a lot. Hopefully he is able to stick with shark racing as i believe they will be a winning combination. Tanner also brings a big following which could potentially bring in bigger sponsors, and with bigger sponsors comes better equipment. I still think he has a bright future ahead of him and will be cheering him on the whole way.
I'm 45 years old and never been an open wheel fan and because of Tanner I am now keeping up with sprint car racing. I've watched his whole career and he's a great kid with a very bright future.
So many Tanner haters online. I just don't get it. Regardless of his results, I think he's had some great runs and not so great but still seems to always move forward. Bobby Allen owns the team and car, he can out who he wants in the car, period. Tanner also doesn't tear up equipment, he's solid.
I have been impressed with Tanner Holmes' progress before the Shark ride and after getting that ride. I agree we need more drivers like him out in the media. I was at Knoxville and Eldora and he definitely attracts a crowd.
First saw Tanner at southern Oregon speedway. Enjoy his UA-cam channel. I’m an old guy who’s favorites are still from the Swindell/Kinser days. Donny Schatz is my guy these days but Tanner is a great young man. Saw him in the pits two nights at Silver Dollar and even when it was tough he was gracious and took time with the fans. Hopefully a bright future for him.
I was a long time fan of Jacob, shark racing shop is 5 mins from my house so ofcourse I root for the local boys. But damnit im definitely a fan of Tanner. Doing a great job in that car
Well said about Tanner. Its unfortunate that people troll so bad. The kid has made a good following on UA-cam, hes fast, and hes great with fans. Motorsports are hurting, a kid like Tanner is good for the sport. Jealousy fuels the hate
Tanner is doing great, IMO. I love his UA-cam videos, and I’m 67 and been going to dirt races for 60 years! Hope the best for Jacob Allen and the entire Shark Racing team!
I have a funny feeling tanner will be back with shark racing even if Jacob Allen returns they have a 3rd car that ran a couple times. But the big thing what does Jacob Allen want to do he seems like he's honestly to me might be done racing.
Love watching Tanner and Carly. It's so nice that they post about the difficulties and hard nights but still have a positive take on things. That's extremely tough to do at a dirt track when tempers are high and people get crazy. They definitely got me back into enjoying sprint cars again.
Thanks, good stats for a young driver. And starting mid season! Also respectful, communicative and an ambassador for the changing profile of the sport!
I don’t know how you cannot like Tanner, he has worked not only to learn how to race but grew a small business out of his channel, I wish him the best and if the shark team gives him another year we will see a really good competitor.
Tanner Holmes is going to be a big time driver in the WOO in the coming yrs 2024 and beyond will be something to watch. The kid is a Wheel man no doubt about it he just needs more seat time and we are hoping Bobby gives it to him.
I think Holmes is going a great job. Not only on track, but also his promotional work via UA-cam and Socials. He is driving the sports engagement for a whole new generation of supporters.
Im from Australia, where he has quite the following, i believe tanner can really be a big thing in the outlaws, hes already shown he can mix it with the best in the world. Rome wasnt built in a day. Which is for some reason, the haters really seem to think so. Hes got so much potential. Hes a marketing dream for sponsors. Hes quick to put his hand up if he makes a mistake, such as the zearfoss incident. Just you wait and see where this kid takes the sport!
I have audio, I think Tanner has done as good or better then any other driver with similar experience, infact, most would crumble under the pressure, anyone who thought he was gonna hop in and win against the best in the world are just fooling themselves.
Corey Day. First time out in WoO, he finishes 2nd. He's finished in the Top-5 in over half of his WoO starts, including one win. And he's 17. He's from my hometown, so I tend to favor him. But he's super aggressive and that generates hostility. If a spectator wants to boo him, fine! Not everyone has to like to him.
In Tanner's defense, these tracks are new to Tanner! The more experience he has at each track, the better he'll be at, at those tracks in the future. Like, he's never seen Port Royal, or WilliamsGrove, or soon Charlotte, or other tracks. In fact, until this opportunity, he's never been to those states. 85-90% of people would struggle at new tracks, states, and regions. That's as a fans, driver, team, team owner, etc. Let's be real there! I've said this once on his channel about this topic, "without a start, how can you get better?"
Tanner is Tanner not anybody else, I think he is ok with criticism, most drivers are harder on themselves than any critics. He will be better and better as time goes on. Racing is a demanding difficult discipline and he is up for the task, I’ve personally watched him since he was 15 . He can and will be in the winner’s circle. Thank you dirt tracker for your support for the 1 T
Good video. I have been in a few comment section arguments with dudes that just can’t seem to find anything good to say about this kid and I truly don’t get it. Of course if you do you’re a “ fanboy”; I don’t even know what the hell that means and don’t care honestly. What I do believe is this kid jumped into one of the top tiers of competition in his sport and earned a podium, fast times, several top ten finishes and has gone bar to bar ( sorry old motorcycle racer talking , wheel to wheel ?) with some of the very best without tearing up a bunch of his teams gear. He hasn’t done super bone head moves one might expect from a young dude proving himself and tear up bunch of other teams cars either.He gets a lot of criticism about being a UA-camr … mad because this kid has a huge fan base that follows him. That’s good for the health and future of the sport. Maybe other drivers can learn something here if you want to see outside money finding it’s way into the sport.
Didn't know a whole lot about him 6 months ago, that said I've been following closer and he's been very impressive to me!!! He has a future on a national touring stage and he'll win some races
Jacob didn't have hit heart or mind fully in it. That's why he quit. IT really takes a certain type of peson to win at Sprint Car Racing. For example Kreg Kinser is far different from his father.
I like Tanner and his positive outlook towards everything. He’s a talented young man with a very bright future ahead imo. I think shark racing will hold onto him for next season and let that team gel and see what they can do. That seems to be a logical thing to do being he has ran very well and being fans from his UA-cam channel to buy merchandise already so he’s earning his keep or contributing anyways. If they do decide to let him go it will be a mistake because somebody will pick him up and invest and watch him grow.
I'm glad you did the segment on Tanner Holmes. The same 'phenomena' has happened with Joseph Joiner and Chase Holland. UA-cam success has come with a sack full of haters. I read the comments, and all three of these guys get a lot of hate that they don't deserve. .
Thanks Great show. I started following Tanner as a result of his channel. In fact I have even thrown him Cash from time to time all because of his self promotion. He is a great kid and is getting a ton of valuable experience with WOO and Chili Bowl
There's a Flo Racing article about it posted today. Macri is rejoining the 39m this weekend. Probably the WOO shows in Kansas. Funny they just missed the PA swing where he might have won a race or two, go figure
I am one of the older racers, and I have followed Tanner Holmes for many years now, so I truly believe he has earned the opportunity to be in the 1T WoO car. Because I can recall watching Bobby Allen racing at Tulsa Speedway with the WoO in the 80's so I have been around a while myself, and I am genuinely happy for Tanner. Not to mention if those people watched Tanner's UA-cam videos, they would see that he is realistic about this opportunity. Which should lead to a full time ride with the WoO, due to the fact he has built up the social media following, and he can drive a race car, which there is no downside from my view point with what Tanner Holmes brings to the table!
Chaz was hatin on him hard-core on a video he put out a couple days ago. I prefer your style, facts not opinions. He claims tanner can't hold a candle to the guys running weekly, yet he finished 9th. Crap, that's really good. Brad Sweet finished 11th! I can't help it that I'm a shark racing fan though. I hope tanner keeps on hitting it.
I don't care what anyone thinks about him. I've followed him for 4 years now on UA-cam when he was racing his outlaw kart. He's young and ambitious, and he will be a great driver in a couple of years.
What hype he was a relatively unknown unless you have kids or on you are on youtube! he has done well you don’t just jump on the outlaw tour and are setting the world on fire every night! Tanner deserves a shot at a ride! I like what i see from tanner and but had no expectations and am the proud owner of the duct tape tee!
I'm with you Tanner is doing fine I knew he was going to struggle a bit when he got back to Pennsylvania just because he hasn't ran many 1/2 mile tracks and those guys in that area run every week and can do it as a living if they choose and it's tough but he is doing fine
I just started watching Tanner’s channel this year(I’m not a big Sprint car guy) I think he is a great kid who is great for dirt racing and 100% deserves every opportunity he is getting with Shark. As a father of 3 boys his age I’d love if he was my kid…bright, articulate and charismatic. If Deegan can get a Xfinity ride then Tanner should be in NASCAR next season…..
Not sure if anyone noticed or mentioned yet or not but for the first time the car has Holmes on the wing and cockpit. It said Allen up until Port Royal from what I can tell on Tanner's videos.
he,s doing good, he and Carly are sure learning allot .the b and c mains could be a mains at most tracks, cant wait to see what they do ne t .if high limits is going big ne t year they better start soon.
Thanks for speaking up. I think Tanner is a talented racer with a ton of potential. Sure, he got a full-time Outlaw ride very early in his career, other full-time newcomer Outlaws tended to have a ton more experience ... but the kid is fast and adaptable. And I've been a UA-cam fan of Tanner for the past 3-4 years -- he is a genuine, very approachable, very humble and nice kid and I wish him all the best.
The reason why Tanner gets more criticism than Zeb Wise is because Zeb doesn't have a fan base fainting in admiration when he finishes in the middle of the pack. That, and the fact that he earned a top WoO ride and for the life of me I can't recall him ever winning a single race. I've never seen more idolatry over a sprint car driver in my life, and I've been watching them for 40 years. It's not personal. Fans have their favorite drivers and those drivers they want to lose. That's part of the fun of being a racing spectator. But when it comes to Holmes, his fans act as if you've bullied their favorite nephew. And none of this is Tanner's fault. It's his fan base. They just rub me the wrong way, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
I'll support anyone Bobby puts in HIS car ....I enjoy watching tanner run and watched his channel before he raced for Bobby...I don't know who could hate the kid ..he's not cocky or rude in any ways he's very polite and was raised right and knows how to talk to people ....
I praise you Justin for always looking at the statistics and providing to people that the numbers don't lie! Love the show and everything you post! Keep on keeping on, buddy! #DoItForDale
Really interesting analysis. Based on casual watching, I wouldn't have guessed that Holmes has been outperforming Allen statistically. There have also been a couple of Bobby Allen tweets that suggest that Holmes' car is being used for R&D setups at times.
I wasn't a sprint car fan until Tanner and Carly took me to Sprint Car 101. Understanding some of what's involved in managing, maintenance, and setup has made me appreciate what they do even more. Great Kids ❤
Anything good for the fan base, is a good thing. He’s still trying to gel with the team and learn what it’s like to drive against the best in the world.
So these arm chair critics have nothing to say any good about Tanner Holmes. His experience is limited on the WOO tour this year. I’ve followed his races for weeks now and have come to this conclusion. He has been consistently putting the 1T into the middle of the pack at the 40+ car shows and not tearing apart and crashing the car. The naysayers need to SHUT UP and cut him some slack. This whole exercise was to LEARN and get seat time and finish the rest of the season out on the last leg of tour. Bobby Allen has mentored Tanner and kept his mind on task, frustration is rough on any body, Rome was not built in a day and tanner can continue to get better. Bobby’s sponsorship seems to have faith so next year is a positive. Remember Jacob? I hope he’s getting ready to come back , take care all!!
If Tanner does stay with Shark Racing in 2024. I see the team getting off the Outlaw tour and running locally in Pennsylvania and mixing in some High Limit/All Star races. Ohio Speedweek, Eldora big $$$, Attica, and some Sharon.
Fans that put down drivers are not really fans. They are sad people who aren't happy unless they have something to complain about. Tanner and Zeb are good young drivers who also happen to be nice guys! Has anybody noticed how Sheldon is doing this year? How about Donnie Schatz? I was at Port Royal this past weekend for all three nights. Fifty four cars for the Tuscarora 50 and forty nine for the Outlaw shows. That's a lot of competition to compete with. Some top drivers didn’t even qualify and had to take provisionals just to get in the features. The quality of teams is getting better and better.
You can say whatever you want but…It’s Bobby Allen’s car!! He says who drives it or does not, whether it’s Tanner or your grandma…Not UA-cam goobers who thinks so-n-so should be in it. So unless Tanner pisses off Scruffy or the sponsors aren’t happy he’s gonna be in it till the end.
Sprint racing is better because of Tanner, he brings a younger crowd ....WoO and Narc needs that !!! 🏁🏁🏁 he may not be doing great, however he IS doing good and getting better....👍👍👍
The young man is doing a solid job against the best field of drivers in sprint car racing there’s ever been.
Thanks for giving the stats on Tanner. Great kid, puts in the work. That whole family is a class act.
Thank you for saying something on Holmes. Kid is doing a great job. Getting experience, hasn’t been tearing stuff up, has a had several good showings. Easier to to call him out for not winning than it is to appreciate what he is doing I guess.
Tanner's case is so easy to look at that anyone who pays any attention to racing would understand. Not everybody who gets in a ride is Kyle Larson. I don't know why everyone keeps expecting every new driver to win instantly. It is actually insane and is leading to self-fulfilling prophecy of driver rotations around the country. Tanner's been racing 410's for 2 years, and most of that racing is on the same tracks. Sure, he did Ohio Speedweek and the occasional midwest stuff, but most of it is out west on the same few tracks. Most of the non 1/2 mile tracks he's been just fine at, which was expected because of how the west coast tracks would compare.
I have no idea how anyone would expect him to go Eldora, Williams Grove, and Port Royal, 3 places hes NEVER been to, and just start racking off wins or podiums or even top 5's. Not only are those 3 tracks some of the hardest to win or even do well at in the country, the competition at all 3 is some of the highest as well. You quickly saw that Chase Randall's Tusky 50 appearance was almost a fluke because the next 2 nights he was nowhere near that fast. He doesn't race on half miles, ever. Outside of knoxville a few times. By the end of the half mile trip he racked up a top 10 at Port of all places. People need to chill and really let drivers learn some dam tracks and get time with a new crew. As stated here, his numbers are actually pretty crazy taking everything into account.
Tanner is just.......Bad to The Bone....! Remember Larson when he was first in sprints.
Haters gonna hate.
Tanner’s doing a damn good job! Stats don’t lie.
A full year with a great team in this series would put Tanner in some serious contention in 2025.
I am a 76 year old Sprintcar fan for over 50 years and started watching Tanner quite awhile ago when he was racing his family owned car. I love seeing the young guys coming up and doing so well in the Sprints. It is my FIRM belief that dirt is for racing and pavement is for getting to the track. I saw one of my very first ever dirt races in 1953 when I was a whole 6 years old, been watching ever since.
As a born and raised Oregonian who grew up in the midget/sprint car pits of the PNW, I am proud to watch Tanners career taking off. Kid seems genuine and looks to put the work in. Hope for more success in the future for him.
Thanks for putting Tanner’s record in context. His learning curve has to be nearly vertical with new tracks, a new (ish) car and crew, and a schedule that is easily triple what he’s used to. Kudos to Shark racng for giving him the opportunity to grow and for recognizing the amazing talent that Carly is as a full crew member instead of just a tire chaser.
Racing is a harsh mistress so he needs some more A Main appearances. That 9th at Port will help
Been following Tanner on UA-cam for about five years I think. If you remember, Justin, he was one of the young shoes I recommended back when you asked in a show "If You Were A Team Owner, Who Would You Hire To Drive Your Car?" And that was before Bobby Allen hired him to finish out the season in Jacob's car. He's doing great. Give him time. Your comparison to Zeb Wise's record at approximately the same point in their careers is valid and telling. I hope Bobby keeps him in the 1T next season, but if he doesn't, Tanner will find another quality ride, I am certain.
I’ve seen Tanner race at a couple tracks in CA and at Skagit in WA, there’s a huge crowd of kids around his car after the races and he takes a pic and signs stuff for all of them. Super nice guy and seems really appreciative to have the following, I think that goes a long way too. His mom and whoever else runs his merch table is really nice too
Tanner has done really well in that ride and deserves a ride next year. The haters need to shut the hell up or strap in and see how they do
I’m blaming Bobby Allen even his son couldn’t do a good job in the car.
Facts 💯the numbers n stats don’t lie.
sorry junior but this is America where we enjoy Free Speech, you may not like what the haters are saying but they have every right to say it, just like you have the right to tell people to shut the hell up, We have the right not to listen to you and neve shut up
I agree with you
@midnight-2021 I think she will do much better in the car the truck series is full of untalented drivers but you must of not watched the SRX series Hallie hung with some of the greatest drivers to ever put on a helmet so to say that Hallie isn't talented is going way to far. Besides she is the only Woman to ever win a Nascar sanctioned event in fact she won twice
The haters have NO reason. Tanner is an intelligent young man who with his family has engineered a good career--he knows how to promote his team. His transparency before and after each race is interesting and enjoyable.
Tanner is a very talented young man. Fans who have never driven a sprint car don't have a clue of how hard it is to go fast on a slick track. Tanner is very fast when there is some grip and he can still control the car and go forward on a slick track. Running with the Outlaws will only make him better and better.
Great video Justin, I love Tanner Holmes and I hope that Shark Racing keeps him next year.
So he’s in a different chassis different motor and going to tracks he’s never seen
And going up against the best in the business
Plus he’s not ran a 410 a lot give him a chance
We need young drivers that create a following and he’s a great ambassador for this sport
I'm sure DirtVision has picked up new subscribers and viewers since he joined the series.
I can truthfully say Tanner has himself an international fan base. I stumbled across his channel and took a liking to a kid who has his head screwed on. Its clear his parents do support him and his sister Carly to go racing but its also clear that they themselves put a lot of time and effort into working on their own racecars. JMO but I do think Tanner has done quite well in the 1T, learning a new car, a new team and new tracks against the best in the business and scoring top 5 and top 10 finishes is no mean feat. He's also not tearing heaps of equipment up on the regular either. Every success that'll come his way in the future is thoroughly deserved. Its just sad that people will hate on the bloke because he has the ability to promote himself and promote sprintcar racing to new audiences.
I weight Talent and Personality together , Tanner is high on my list ! Met his mom and sister Carly recently both are also Class acts !
Call Bobby Allen and let's hear what he thinks about Tanner Holmes🤔his opinion is the only 1T that counts 👍👊🙂
Tanner has grown into a class act
I have been following Tanner for about 3 years on UA-cam. He definitely is getting better over time. He does look after his equipment and is very fair on the track. Having a top class ride will be very beneficial in the long run. Even his little 15 year old sister Carly does a pretty good job in a sprintcar.
I have always thought his sister has more raw talent than Tanner. She has always impressed me how efficient she is with the wheel during a race.
Tanner has said as much.
I didn't know about the Zeb Wise Vs Tanner Holmes stats, but it seems to me Holmes is doing a great job in the 1T car given what he has to work with. I don't think Shark racing has the resources of a Gravel or Sweet team, but they do a lot with what they have.
Met Tanner at Waynesfield during oh speedweek two years ago, great young man. Remember all, most these tracks he is seeing for the first time and not usually rookie friendly.
Finally someone who pulls up the real stats! Some have put unrealistic expectations on Tanner. I think he's done a phenomenal job in the 1T. He's really only had a handful of 410 starts before getting into that ride. PA was tough on him, but it was for his whole team as well. No matter what happens for next year, he's going to be a lot better for everything he is learning.
I figured if Tanner could keep it in the mains and not tear stuff up, it would be considered a successful partnership to finish out the year. Bobby gets eyes on his car, they sell some merch together, and Tanner gets a ton of valuable experience. I think he has been doing a pretty fine job so far given all the factors.
Here in Oregon, there is another young guy that raced with Tanner in both limiteds and 360s, Tyler Thompson, who is also a great young guy that is good with fans and friendly. The Thompson operation is lower budget than the Holmes operation and he doesn't get to travel as much, but they were the two "young guns" in the area battling it out and had some exciting races. I'm happy for Tanner but would also like to see what Tyler could do with a big opportunity as well, but of course there aren't enough big opportunities like that to go around.
Great breakdown on Tanners results.
They are actually better than i thought number wise. Hes a talented young man with a bright future. Also ive noticed Bobbys cars are looking better since Tanner came onboard.Its a great combo of a older man and a younger man teaming up in sport that can use both experience and youth to succeed.
Justin, i'd be curious as to where Allen/Holmes combined points would put them in the WOO points standing for drivers. Maybe a quick update on that in your show.
If any of the haters show up where Tanner races, from his Mom, she can't believe people are driving 200 miles to watch him race in the Midwest and East coast. I know because she told me at Knoxville. And this was before he joined the WOO. Tracks get more attendance when Tanner races. A number of those are kids, kid racers, etc. Just look at the lines for merch and to get a photo with Tanner after the race.
Sprint car racing is very lucky to have two young drivers the caliber of Tanner Holmes and Zeb Wise. Both are mature well past their years and both know
what that pedal on the right is for.
If I remember right when Zeb attained the Rudeen ride. The nay sayers we’re talking then too. I always thought/knew Zeb was a solid pick.
Tanner knows how to drive a sprint car competition is extremely high he will get his moments
There are several very good drivers and many top cars capable of winning.
Haters....really crawl back under your rock!!!
A couple of things not mentioned:
Most of the PA Posse has the talent to run every night with the outlaws, just not the checkbook.
58 cars in the pits, let's see anyone with 19 WoO starts get in a car and compete.
It seems that the nights he struggled, the 1s car has also.
Shark racing, although a good team is not one of the most well funded. The team, I heard, still has to sleep in the hauler on occasion .
In 19 starts, Tanner has brought the car home in one piece every time so far.
Bobby Allen ain't no fool, he saw the Attention that Tanner got and knew that would help his teams also.
Tanner doesn't drive over his head. That's what Bobby Allen wanted in a driver.
Truth!
I can't like this comment enough.
I don't expect Tanner to step in and be a super star right off the bat. I think that he is doing well and learning a lot. Hopefully he is able to stick with shark racing as i believe they will be a winning combination.
Tanner also brings a big following which could potentially bring in bigger sponsors, and with bigger sponsors comes better equipment. I still think he has a bright future ahead of him and will be cheering him on the whole way.
I'm 45 years old and never been an open wheel fan and because of Tanner I am now keeping up with sprint car racing. I've watched his whole career and he's a great kid with a very bright future.
Tanner seems like a decent dude. Wish him the best.
In 19 races he has been more relevant than Jacob was in 19 or Sheldon on the last 19 for that matter
Truth hurts! Preach it!
Tanner has done a tremendous job driving for Shark Racing .
Just read all the comments. All positive, nothing I can say that hasn't been said! Good luck Tanner.
So many Tanner haters online. I just don't get it. Regardless of his results, I think he's had some great runs and not so great but still seems to always move forward. Bobby Allen owns the team and car, he can out who he wants in the car, period. Tanner also doesn't tear up equipment, he's solid.
Tanner Holmes is a fine sprint car driver with a work ethic that keeps on giving.
I have been impressed with Tanner Holmes' progress before the Shark ride and after getting that ride. I agree we need more drivers like him out in the media. I was at Knoxville and Eldora and he definitely attracts a crowd.
First saw Tanner at southern Oregon speedway. Enjoy his UA-cam channel. I’m an old guy who’s favorites are still from the Swindell/Kinser days. Donny Schatz is my guy these days but Tanner is a great young man. Saw him in the pits two nights at Silver Dollar and even when it was tough he was gracious and took time with the fans. Hopefully a bright future for him.
I was a long time fan of Jacob, shark racing shop is 5 mins from my house so ofcourse I root for the local boys. But damnit im definitely a fan of Tanner. Doing a great job in that car
Well said about Tanner. Its unfortunate that people troll so bad. The kid has made a good following on UA-cam, hes fast, and hes great with fans. Motorsports are hurting, a kid like Tanner is good for the sport. Jealousy fuels the hate
Tanner is doing great, IMO. I love his UA-cam videos, and I’m 67 and been going to dirt races for 60 years! Hope the best for Jacob Allen and the entire Shark Racing team!
Tanner is a solid young driver who doesn’t tear up equipment. Keep him in the ride
Tanner is really doing great! Hire him full time Bobby!
I have a funny feeling tanner will be back with shark racing even if Jacob Allen returns they have a 3rd car that ran a couple times. But the big thing what does Jacob Allen want to do he seems like he's honestly to me might be done racing.
The only person TH has to impress is the BOSS BOBBY ALLEN. Lets just say Bobby is impressed! Haters can gfy. This kid is respectful and a wheel man
I think I is interesting that Tanner's sister is making a name for herself with the 1s menching her in a podium interview
Love watching Tanner and Carly. It's so nice that they post about the difficulties and hard nights but still have a positive take on things. That's extremely tough to do at a dirt track when tempers are high and people get crazy. They definitely got me back into enjoying sprint cars again.
Thanks, good stats for a young driver. And starting mid season! Also respectful, communicative and an ambassador for the changing profile of the sport!
I don’t know how you cannot like Tanner, he has worked not only to learn how to race but grew a small business out of his channel, I wish him the best and if the shark team gives him another year we will see a really good competitor.
I think he has done great in the car and would love to see him in the car for a full season next year.
Tanner Holmes is going to be a big time driver in the WOO in the coming yrs 2024 and beyond will be something to watch. The kid is a Wheel man no doubt about it he just needs more seat time and we are hoping Bobby gives it to him.
I think Holmes is going a great job. Not only on track, but also his promotional work via UA-cam and Socials.
He is driving the sports engagement for a whole new generation of supporters.
Im from Australia, where he has quite the following, i believe tanner can really be a big thing in the outlaws, hes already shown he can mix it with the best in the world. Rome wasnt built in a day. Which is for some reason, the haters really seem to think so. Hes got so much potential. Hes a marketing dream for sponsors. Hes quick to put his hand up if he makes a mistake, such as the zearfoss incident. Just you wait and see where this kid takes the sport!
I have audio, I think Tanner has done as good or better then any other driver with similar experience, infact, most would crumble under the pressure, anyone who thought he was gonna hop in and win against the best in the world are just fooling themselves.
Corey Day. First time out in WoO, he finishes 2nd. He's finished in the Top-5 in over half of his WoO starts, including one win. And he's 17. He's from my hometown, so I tend to favor him. But he's super aggressive and that generates hostility. If a spectator wants to boo him, fine! Not everyone has to like to him.
In Tanner's defense, these tracks are new to Tanner! The more experience he has at each track, the better he'll be at, at those tracks in the future.
Like, he's never seen Port Royal, or WilliamsGrove, or soon Charlotte, or other tracks. In fact, until this opportunity, he's never been to those states.
85-90% of people would struggle at new tracks, states, and regions. That's as a fans, driver, team, team owner, etc. Let's be real there!
I've said this once on his channel about this topic, "without a start, how can you get better?"
Tanner is Tanner not anybody else, I think he is ok with criticism, most drivers are harder on themselves than any critics. He will be better and better as time goes on. Racing is a demanding difficult discipline and he is up for the task, I’ve personally watched him since he was 15 . He can and will be in the winner’s circle. Thank you dirt tracker for your support for the 1 T
Tanner posted a short of someone yelling at him "Tanner, you suck" So yeah, he's OK with criticism!!
Good video. I have been in a few comment section arguments with dudes that just can’t seem to find anything good to say about this kid and I truly don’t get it. Of course if you do you’re a “ fanboy”; I don’t even know what the hell that means and don’t care honestly. What I do believe is this kid jumped into one of the top tiers of competition in his sport and earned a podium, fast times, several top ten finishes and has gone bar to bar ( sorry old motorcycle racer talking , wheel to wheel ?) with some of the very best without tearing up a bunch of his teams gear. He hasn’t done super bone head moves one might expect from a young dude proving himself and tear up bunch of other teams cars either.He gets a lot of criticism about being a UA-camr … mad because this kid has a huge fan base that follows him. That’s good for the health and future of the sport. Maybe other drivers can learn something here if you want to see outside money finding it’s way into the sport.
Thank you Justin for providing the facts on Tanner.👍
Didn't know a whole lot about him 6 months ago, that said I've been following closer and he's been very impressive to me!!! He has a future on a national touring stage and he'll win some races
Jacob didn't have hit heart or mind fully in it. That's why he quit. IT really takes a certain type of peson to win at Sprint Car Racing. For example Kreg Kinser is far different from his father.
I'm glad you did this show. I'm a fan of Tanner but was having my doubts... until this show.
I like Tanner and his positive outlook towards everything. He’s a talented young man with a very bright future ahead imo. I think shark racing will hold onto him for next season and let that team gel and see what they can do. That seems to be a logical thing to do being he has ran very well and being fans from his UA-cam channel to buy merchandise already so he’s earning his keep or contributing anyways. If they do decide to let him go it will be a mistake because somebody will pick him up and invest and watch him grow.
You need to take the same 19 races from allen last year and holmes this year and see if the average finish is better for holmes
Tanner is a great driver, a humble young man, and the real deal.
I'm glad you did the segment on Tanner Holmes. The same 'phenomena' has happened with Joseph Joiner and Chase Holland. UA-cam success has come with a sack full of haters. I read the comments, and all three of these guys get a lot of hate that they don't deserve. .
Sadly, when someone has success at something that others can't achieve, they FEEL successful by badmouthing the acheiver.
Thanks Great show. I started following Tanner as a result of his channel. In fact I have even thrown him Cash from time to time all because of his self promotion. He is a great kid and is getting a ton of valuable experience with WOO and Chili Bowl
Tanner is doing well in my opinion. He is outrunning many big name drivers in stacked fields. He is doing this on tracks he has never seen before.
Macri back in the 39m.
says who
@@tyler7433 Macri
There's a Flo Racing article about it posted today. Macri is rejoining the 39m this weekend. Probably the WOO shows in Kansas. Funny they just missed the PA swing where he might have won a race or two, go figure
I am one of the older racers, and I have followed Tanner Holmes for many years now, so I truly believe he has earned the opportunity to be in the 1T WoO car. Because I can recall watching Bobby Allen racing at Tulsa Speedway with the WoO in the 80's so I have been around a while myself, and I am genuinely happy for Tanner. Not to mention if those people watched Tanner's UA-cam videos, they would see that he is realistic about this opportunity. Which should lead to a full time ride with the WoO, due to the fact he has built up the social media following, and he can drive a race car, which there is no downside from my view point with what Tanner Holmes brings to the table!
Chaz was hatin on him hard-core on a video he put out a couple days ago. I prefer your style, facts not opinions. He claims tanner can't hold a candle to the guys running weekly, yet he finished 9th. Crap, that's really good. Brad Sweet finished 11th!
I can't help it that I'm a shark racing fan though. I hope tanner keeps on hitting it.
I don't care what anyone thinks about him. I've followed him for 4 years now on UA-cam when he was racing his outlaw kart. He's young and ambitious, and he will be a great driver in a couple of years.
Huge fan of Tanner and Carly. These kids know how to handle themselves. Great big shout out to there parents.
Tanner is doing Just Fine… adjusting to that schedule is huge…
What hype he was a relatively unknown unless you have kids or on you are on youtube! he has done well you don’t just jump on the outlaw tour and are setting the world on fire every night! Tanner deserves a shot at a ride! I like what i see from tanner and but had no expectations and am the proud owner of the duct tape tee!
I'm with you Tanner is doing fine I knew he was going to struggle a bit when he got back to Pennsylvania just because he hasn't ran many 1/2 mile tracks and those guys in that area run every week and can do it as a living if they choose and it's tough but he is doing fine
thank you Tanner doing fine in his quest in the Outlaw realm , Bobbie Allen seen something in him or Tanner would not be in it
Anthony Macri back in the family owned 39m
I just started watching Tanner’s channel this year(I’m not a big Sprint car guy) I think he is a great kid who is great for dirt racing and 100% deserves every opportunity he is getting with Shark. As a father of 3 boys his age I’d love if he was my kid…bright, articulate and charismatic. If Deegan can get a Xfinity ride then Tanner should be in NASCAR next season…..
Not sure if anyone noticed or mentioned yet or not but for the first time the car has Holmes on the wing and cockpit. It said Allen up until Port Royal from what I can tell on Tanner's videos.
I hope he gets a full ride with the 1T for next year but if not he will get a full ride by some team cause he’s gonna be a champion
he,s doing good, he and Carly are sure learning allot .the b and c mains could be a mains at most tracks, cant wait to see what they do ne t .if high limits is going big ne t year they better start soon.
Thanks for speaking up. I think Tanner is a talented racer with a ton of potential. Sure, he got a full-time Outlaw ride very early in his career, other full-time newcomer Outlaws tended to have a ton more experience ... but the kid is fast and adaptable. And I've been a UA-cam fan of Tanner for the past 3-4 years -- he is a genuine, very approachable, very humble and nice kid and I wish him all the best.
Tanner has exceeded my expectations, the World of Outlaws is the premier winged sprint car series so you don’t just drop in and kick ass.
The reason why Tanner gets more criticism than Zeb Wise is because Zeb doesn't have a fan base fainting in admiration when he finishes in the middle of the pack. That, and the fact that he earned a top WoO ride and for the life of me I can't recall him ever winning a single race.
I've never seen more idolatry over a sprint car driver in my life, and I've been watching them for 40 years. It's not personal. Fans have their favorite drivers and those drivers they want to lose. That's part of the fun of being a racing spectator. But when it comes to Holmes, his fans act as if you've bullied their favorite nephew. And none of this is Tanner's fault. It's his fan base. They just rub me the wrong way, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
I'll support anyone Bobby puts in HIS car ....I enjoy watching tanner run and watched his channel before he raced for Bobby...I don't know who could hate the kid ..he's not cocky or rude in any ways he's very polite and was raised right and knows how to talk to people ....
I praise you Justin for always looking at the statistics and providing to people that the numbers don't lie! Love the show and everything you post! Keep on keeping on, buddy! #DoItForDale
Really interesting analysis. Based on casual watching, I wouldn't have guessed that Holmes has been outperforming Allen statistically.
There have also been a couple of Bobby Allen tweets that suggest that Holmes' car is being used for R&D setups at times.
I wasn't a sprint car fan until Tanner and Carly took me to Sprint Car 101. Understanding some of what's involved in managing, maintenance, and setup has made me appreciate what they do even more. Great Kids ❤
Anything good for the fan base, is a good thing. He’s still trying to gel with the team and learn what it’s like to drive against the best in the world.
He’s been impressive overall
So these arm chair critics have nothing to say any good about Tanner Holmes. His experience is limited on the WOO tour this year. I’ve followed his races for weeks now and have come to this conclusion. He has been consistently putting the 1T into the middle of the pack at the 40+ car shows and not tearing apart and crashing the car. The naysayers need to SHUT UP and cut him some slack. This whole exercise was to LEARN and get seat time and finish the rest of the season out on the last leg of tour. Bobby Allen has mentored Tanner and kept his mind on task, frustration is rough on any body, Rome was not built in a day and tanner can continue to get better. Bobby’s sponsorship seems to have faith so next year is a positive. Remember Jacob? I hope he’s getting ready to come back , take care all!!
WELL DONE TANNER
If Tanner does stay with Shark Racing in 2024. I see the team getting off the Outlaw tour and running locally in Pennsylvania and mixing in some High Limit/All Star races. Ohio Speedweek, Eldora big $$$, Attica, and some Sharon.
Fans that put down drivers are not really fans. They are sad people who aren't happy unless they have something to complain about. Tanner and Zeb are good young drivers who also happen to be nice guys! Has anybody noticed how Sheldon is doing this year? How about Donnie Schatz? I was at Port Royal this past weekend for all three nights. Fifty four cars for the Tuscarora 50 and forty nine for the Outlaw shows. That's a lot of competition to compete with. Some top drivers didn’t even qualify and had to take provisionals just to get in the features. The quality of teams is getting better and better.
You can say whatever you want but…It’s Bobby Allen’s car!! He says who drives it or does not, whether it’s Tanner or your grandma…Not UA-cam goobers who thinks so-n-so should be in it. So unless Tanner pisses off Scruffy or the sponsors aren’t happy he’s gonna be in it till the end.
Haters jealous about how good hes doing
Sprint racing is better because of Tanner, he brings a younger crowd ....WoO and Narc needs that !!! 🏁🏁🏁 he may not be doing great, however he IS doing good and getting better....👍👍👍
Thanks for updating everyone on Tanner. He has been given a great opportunity, and is taking advantage of getting experience on the road.