Mesozoic Dynasties of Kaimere Episode III: Age of Tremor and Travel
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- After a golden age for Jurassic dinosaurs in the previous dynasty, an influx of Aptian and Albian dinosaurs brought new competition. Temperate residents were pressed by tropical competition as the climate warmed. Salvation arrived in the form of Arvel, giving them a land bridge to new territory.
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I love the fact that you incorporated the potential gaps in our fossil records into the world building. Making the setting more mysterious and intriguing.
also makes it easier, trying to make every detail of everything in a worldbuilding project is not possible, even if you managed it though it would be worse for it
100%
Thank you! It seemed such a logical problem for them to try and word around. They might also find a Carnotaurus but if they only found the foot bones, they'd never know it was the same species as our partial skeleton. That they could verify any species at all this far back should very much be the exception (like the Allosaurus found in Ni'Khar), not the rule.
"Acragamera, where do you want your armor plates?"
"Yes"
Always ready for when Tuesday rolls around
Heck yeah!
Same, I look forward to these episodes every week
How badly does kaishel need an update video?
Certainly updated art but the basic information is generally solid.
"Acragamera", you say. I see what ya did there 🐢
Absolutely adoring these Mesozoic Dynasty episodes. I really hope that the wholly Parasauropods made into the modern era in some remote part of Kaimere.
Lucky for you, Parasauropods are one of the dominant dinosaur clades in modern Kaishel, and I think there might also be a species in Pakardia.
@@IanPendleton-gh6ox Wait, was that in the Polar forest episode? I do not remember them at all. I'm gonna have to go back and rewatch that. Or were they in a different episode?
Love to hear it, and it's a safe bet! Got more than just the koordu in Kaishel's forests
gosh the designs in this dynasty are GORGEOUS, I especially love caesarsdraken and the state of arvel at the time...
Thank you!!
Finally our weekly dose of spec kino is here!
"delicious. Finally, some good fucking spec evo"
4:03 the okapi of the sauropods
A really important episode that lights up a period of time in Kaimere. I really hope we see more of this Crown of Kairul In the future
Best believe it! Got a sponsor for later this year.
Yooo, maybe more therosaurs relics?
Damn shame them allosaurus rexes died out, but it's the way of nature. Some really cool pterosaurs in this episode! And it's amazing to know that spinosaurids thrived in kaimere at one point. I hope there's more of them that get covered in the future.
God I love carchies. Cardinals of Kaimere maybe gone but never forgotten✊. The faithful hold out hope in a relict population tucked away outside the known world!
Arvel always seems to be the Australia of Kaimere. Also first Creataceous dynasty next week let's gooooo.
Second Cretaceous dynasty actually, this was the first. Unless you meant 'first LATE Cretaceous dynasty'.
I always though of pakardia as the Australian of kaimere
This is the earliest I've been to an upload! Love your world building and appreciate all the thought, creativity, and research that goes into your world. Every upload makes the world you crafted feel like a place I could visit in the real world, if only I could get there!
Thanks so much! Appreciate it!
Babe wake up, new Kaimere just dropped
I'm glad I can finally picture how dinosaurs got to Kaishel!
That note about titanosaurs being restricted to the north of Arvel does make me wonder, could the Koordu actually be a surviving parasauropod? And that note about how the basal megaraptorans caught my ears too. So many mysteries left in Kaimere.
I can't wait to see where the fourth harvest takes us!
Yes indeed! Koordu is a parasauropod, as are the other relatives I mentioned in the Kaishel episode.
@@TalesofKaimere I can't believe I guessed right! I thought those neural spine bumps in the design looked familiar!
I knew it there were going to be spinosaurs
1:41 Keenan please i am begging you, replace the term "vassal predator" with "ecological henchmen" itd be too funny
We did it we found the origin of the unnamed Kaishelan theropod
Heck yeah
Yeah, the Mysterious Theropods first displayed and teased/hinted from the "Moørkutlot: Spirits of the Silent Forest | Silent Ones of Kaishel" were actually Coelophosaurs !
Coelophosaurs being a theropods clade exclusive to Kaimere which descend from Earth's early Theropods such Monolophosaurus or Dilophosaurus' relatives.
I would love to know more about the surviving fabodonts and other surviving relics of the first dynasty.
Hello I have been a long time subscriber and today is my birthday so I just bought the 2 tales of kaimere books thanks for the enjoyment of the spectacular series that you have created and crafted carefully and beautifully.i still remember the first episode I watch is “what is speculative evolution” and “mosasaurs of kaimere”.
Happy birthday! Hope you have a wonderful day.
Very much appreciated and happy birthday!!
Haven’t had a bad Tuesday since I discovered your videos! Thank you so much for your awesome content!
So glad to hear it!
Man on one hand it's neat to learn how Dinos arrived in Kaishel, on the other hand it is sad to see all the Fabadonts die
You'd think the three eyes would be useful against dinosaurs
Also maybe i'm just stupid but when I hear Gerrick I just think a Cardassian from Star Trek is sponsoring these episodes
The thumbnail makes me feel like I walked into some ritualistic dance
Wanna believe that at least one coelophosaur is still around
Safe bet!
When you brought up phylogeny, the megaraptors came to mind. Most recent phylogenetic studies point towards megaraptors being an either a subgroup of tyrannosaur or a sister group to the tyrannosauria as whole.
Absolutely. I found the sequence of events necessitated the megaraptoran ancestors coming from a time and place before megaraptorids evolved, so right in the thick of that ambiguous part of their ancestry where the line between stem megaraptoran and basal tyrannosauroid is real messy
@@TalesofKaimereTheropod classification has always been messy. Several species have turned out to be mere juveniles of larger ones. Heck when I was a kid Tyrannosaurs were often stated to be closely related to allosaurus. However, tyrannosaurs have now been found to be more closer to birds than to most other megatheropods.
This is quite interesting. I had thought the mid cretaceous gondwana harvest would have established the fourth Mesozoic dynasty, rather than the third. Still, a fascinating insight into kaimere's past!
Well, that what happen at the end of the Third which will establish and forced the Late Cretaceous harvests that will defined the Fourth one.
So, It's both the Third and second half after the of the Middle Cretaceous which have established the Fourth Dynasty.
9:08
*shouts dramatically*
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
What an amazing, yet way too short episode imho.
This may be my favorite one of the series, though, as I said, it's a bit short, it's extremely rich though. The Kairul-Arvel Land bridge and how the Crown of Kairul broke off, and the prehistoric map of Kaimere... It makes this a high end.
I believe that the next episode may cover the early Tyrants.
Yes indeed! Next week will be very long to make up for it.
@@TalesofKaimereWhich is for the best.
But seeing a map of Prehistoric Kaimere is always a treat.
0:18 I'm wondering if I'm watching an episode of the Secret Saturdays.
finally, next episode of Kaimere!
Bro you do art for project soleara any idea on why the discord invite wouldn't work?
@@partyzombie6211 Idk, but I can send link
Question: what environments or biomes would discourage omnivory?
Regions with extremes. Deserts with minimal flora and jungles without many large animals I expect would fit those criteria, but at the end of the day you’re always going to find exceptions
The Honest Trailer for Akira came out today, an awesome treat in addition to this.
I love these episodes, feels like something so ancient
Thanks! Helps a lot to set the stage like this
Keenan~you did well travel~se eyou soon~ =)
Thanks!
14:26 well gee I wonder why lol
Some more things to say:
1. 8:31-9:08 kind of ironic
2. If lurdusaurus was harvested, it might be possible that nigersaurus, suchomimus, critatusaurus, super croc, duck croc, and dog croc may have been harvested too. Speaking of which, if sauroposeidon was harvested, it encountering a saurogeb would've been an interesting interaction.
3. What happened to the newly harvested ichthyosaurs and plesiosaurs of this harvest and how did they interact with their relatives of the previous dynasty(/ies).
1. Indeed
2. It is entirely possible, yes.
3. Depends. Some thrived, some adapted, some died. To cover them thoroughly would take a dedicated episode
How can I tell if a skeleton belonged to a macro predator? Proportions?
Generally teeth are a good indicator
I need a walking with episodes with the different dynasties.
I love the Coelophosaurs! Such a cool design.
Thank you!!
@@TalesofKaimere Are there any surviving members of the clade in modern Kairmere?
@@GreasusGoldtooth Yup! Not in the known world but I've got a few planned clades in realms beyond.
nice video
Thanks!
@@TalesofKaimere your welcome
What pterosaurs lived in arvel, during the Mesozoic dynasties? Did rhamphorhycids dominate the continent or was it an entirely different genus of pterosaur all together?
What were the dominant herbivores in Arvel during the Mesozoic dynasties?
So that means that the koordu of kaishel Is actually a parasauropod?
Yup! Has been for a while now just gotta make time to redesign. Design won't change dramatically but it will be smaller.
@@TalesofKaimere OMG, THAT'S SO AWESOME BRO, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIIISSS🤩🤩🦕🦕
It's sad to see that since the kaishelan therapods have gone extinct Coelophosaurs are seemingly extinct in modern kaimere. Side note in the Moorkutlot episode you said they were the 'apex predators' of kaishel so is the Ketlrek still canon.
Ketlrek is still canon. Might be some small coelophosaurs but nothing large as that would almost certainly have dominated prior to the evolution of giant oviraptorsaurs and large Heterothermes
What a treat to finally have the Kaimere's entire natural history coming together with these overviews. Now we only need an episode on the Permian dynasty.
But today's one got me thinking, though carcharodontosaurs and spinosaurs are pretty much certainly off the table for modern Kaimere, it would've been hilarious if in addition to the Nehamu there were a tiny relic carcharodontosaur and a tiny relic spinosaur somewhere. That way people who constantly put these theropod groups against each other in imaginary death battles can argue over their small descendants, while Kaimere is being ruled by megatheropods of less popular clades. Just a funny thought I had.
Anyways, I'm curious to learn next week about that brief 4th Mesozoic dynasty breaching the gap with the Tyrant Dynasty.
I would love a battle of three mesozoic giants all under half a ton lol
I can see why the First Cretaceous Dynasty was the Age of Tremor and Travel.
Man ! The "Third Mesozoic Dynasty/First Cretaceous Dynasty" was really something !
With the Camarasaurs, Brachiosaurs and Diplodocoids vanishing entirely few after the introduction of the Titanosaurs for the first time.
The Allosaurs, Megalosaurs and Ceratosaurs losing almost the entirety of their number and diversity with the introduction of Carcharodontosaurs mostly, but due to Coelurosaurs, Megaraptors and Dromaeosaurs a lot as well ! (and will entirely, ultimatly, die at the end of the Third Mesozoic Dynasty while their new rulers will continue to decently thrived in the Fourth one).
And the Parasauropods and Coelophosaurs almost going extinct due to climatic change warming the climate and allowing their tropics competitors into what remained of the mainland temperates areas no more temperates, and only surviving by travelling into a giant mass exode.
By going into Crown of Kairul before the later broke from the latter, at North, and into Kaishel by using Arvel as a land bridge...
Yeah, really, Competition and Zoogeography (animals' migrations over time) are really driving forces editing and forging the landscapes and face of Kaimere since immemorials times !
Indeed! It was a very busy time!
Curious to see how this new lore will change Kaishel's fauna. Are there still Coelophosaurs and hairy Parasauropods still walking around or massive Fabodonts? Very excited to see what next week will bring
There are still smaller coelophosaurs and several parasauropods. Fabadonts too. The Kaishel episode mostly focused on the coastal fauna (which is what the Assembly knows most about) and that all holds true. Lots of caribou and other large mammals. In the forest, you find lots more older fauna, which though I hadn't drawn them yet I did mention in the episode they were much less familiar clades. Very little of the lore in that episode changed. Really just some phylogeny and need new art to reflect that, but it's not really all that different.
@@TalesofKaimere interesting. Is the sauropod from that episode a Parasauropod now or still the same?
@@juanleuschner7457 This is the Koordu and yes it is a Parasauropod now, no more a Sauropod (as Sauropod can't live actually under very temperates and polar contexts areas).
Imagine acrocanthosaurus and tyrannotitan being put into 1 habitat.
So that’s what inhabits the crown. I wonder how they’re doing?
They're doing pretty darn well! Got an episode sponsored for later this year
@@TalesofKaimere Huzzahs are in order!
Did that one kaishel dromesoaura ancestors come from this harvest
Why do coelphosaurs elasmarians and parasauropods do better in colder climates
sid the sloth confirmed
Really fascinating episode. Loved it a lot..
Thanks!!
Hey Keenan are you gonna do the cave age I don't mind if you don't but are you?
So next week's episode is the equivalent of the anchor period
It is indeed!
During the last Mesozoic dynasty, wasn’t Arvel dominated by charcharadontosaurs?
Indeed. That lore has now been altered: it was instead coelophosaurs. Same basic dynamics and appearance, just different phylogeny. In the heterotherm episode was when I first hinted they weren't carcharodontosaurs anymore but this was my first confirmation.
@@TalesofKaimereI’m certainly not complaining.
@@TalesofKaimere Actually, you never say or confirm whatever in the "Heterotherms/Moørkutlot: Spirits of the Silent Forest | Silent Ones of Kaishel" episode.
Indeed, what you said was "It is not know if they were Coelurosaurs, Carcharodontosaurs or Megalosaurs but whatever they were, they were the top predators of Kaishel for many millions of years".
Now, we know that was neither of these three clades, but an entire apart one exclusive to kaimere, the Coelophosaurs.
Carcharodontosaurs only ruled Arvel as complete apex during the Tyrants Dynasty (guess that some Carcha established on Arvel when it was a land bridge but remained like the Titanosaurs only at the north of it and became the rulers when Arvel broke and becaome isolated from both Kaishel and Kairul afterward and got into more warmer latitudes).
Carcha will persist on Arvel until the end of the Tyrant Dynasty around 15 mya, while they gone extinct elsewhere on Kaimere earlier at the end of the First Epoch of the Tyrants Dynasty.
Hope I made a good summary without saying wrong things....
3:12 is that a single row of plates on its back? I think it is, I just wanna be sure.
There are actually two rows of plates, it just looks like there's one because of how the art was created.
Nope! The plates are paired like most stegosaurs rather than staggered like Stegosaurus.
@@TalesofKaimere Oh. Thanks for clearing that up
Do Dougal Dixon new dinosaurs?
I want Ceasersdracon as a mount
100%
Ive missed like 2 videos broke my streak of like a year :/
Spinosaurs begging Keenan not to get obliterated at the end of this dynasty:
*a tear on my cheek as I cover their eyes and reach for my holster*
Were the hetotherms that lived in kaishel prior to the arrival of dinosaurs ambush predators or pursuit predators
Both. It was a diverse class with all sorts of representatives
where tapejarids and anhanguerids harvested at this time since tapejarids are very successful in modern times?
Yes
Were dominated on the large end by rhamphorhynchids, but they were present
As said in the "Natural History of the Pterosaurs of Kaimere" episode, Tapejarid were harvested during the Mesozoic Dynasties before the Fourth one/Second Cretaceous Dynasty, and did well, but don't radiate in the Fourt Dynasty or the Tyrants Dynasty because of the Azhdarchid and Nyctosaurs being already harvested as they are, big and dominants over the newly free niches left by Rhamphorhynchid, before any others pterosaurs clade could radiate.
If I can ask, are there still no survivors at all from any stegosaurid Clade on any part of the continents or shelter islands at all? Same with Spinosaurids.
At present both clades are extinct. I say at present not to be cagey but because there's still a lot of Kairul to develop and I don't want to shut the door completely this early in development. However I don't want to get folks hopes up there's very little likelyhood of survivors
@@TalesofKaimere if so, do you have an explanation and such? Like for island survivors mainly and such separate from competitors.
We will never see jurassic giants like this ever again. Or carcharodontosaurs. Or spinosaurs. *sigh*
Indeed. RIP
What's the earliest mammal known for possible full trichromatic vision?
Do the world of dinosaoid
How did the filter feeding giant pterosaurs go extinct
Food source went extinct
HOLD UP.
Acrogamera? Yet another kaiju reference I see???
Yup!
Why does your voice felt like you're sick?
Because I was, but I didn't have time to wait for recovery
@@partyzombie6211 sorry I'm Indonesian not a native English speaker
@@UdinJibral oh sorry nm
Kinda sad that even though stegosaurs seem to held strong they still don’t get that much attention/artwork 😔
Yeah, only so many hours in the day and getting sick for a week really cut into my schedule.
@@TalesofKaimere ah yes, time. Literally free, but simultaneously the most finite resource of all. Anyways, hope you get well and my favourite dinosaur clade gets more spotlight in the future.
@@TalesofKaimere ah yes, time. Literally free, but simultaneously the most finite resource of all. Anyways, hope you get well and my favourite dinosaur clade gets more spotlight in the future.
As for me, I think the transistion from the Second Jurassic Dynasty to the First Cretaceous Dynasty was caused by floral and faunal interchange/turnover.
Indeed that seems to have been the biggest drive in the change in herbivores and the carnivores specialized in their capture
question to which perhaps there is already an answer. Have there ever been harvests coming from a place other than planet earth?
There have indeed! Earth wasn’t the first, was just the first that fit best. Others didn’t match in atmosphere or gravity and died when replicated so if there’s any nonearth creatures they would be very small
@@TalesofKaimere have you already talked about these creatures? or maybe there will be space to talk about them in the future?
Why did the carchardontosaura get the name cardinal from
Titanocardinalus is the type genus of the clade that ruled Kaimere through the third Mesozoic Dynasty
@@TalesofKaimere we’re did they get the cardinal part of the name
Question: could symbiosis between species being anthropomorphized or interpreted as "contracts"? If so who exactly might see it that way?
That is not a field I have much study in so can’t offer much insight sorry
1. Was spinosaurus aeygipticus or Oxalaia ever harvested?
2. What species of mammal currently lived in Arvel at the time?
1. It's extremely rare for fossils of our known taxa to coincide with harvests and formations of Kaimere to verify such taxa, especially for animals with fairly fragmentary remains. All that to say: it's unknown
2. A range of multituberculates, eutriconodonts, and others migrated south.
Good to know hope to see, if the spinosaurs harvested where of these two clades in the next episode. 👍🏼
Yeah, before this interchange there 115 mya (as shown in this episode) thank to Arvel as landbrige between Kairul and Kaishel, ALL Kaishelan inhabitants were First Dynasty origins creatures.
Because Arvel was part of kaishel before becoming a landbrige, mammals weren't present there before this event.
Megafaunal interchange once again screw southern animals.
If our American interchange happened like this as things were warming, I imagine it would have favored them. If this Kairul-Arvel interchange happened like ours as the planet cooled, dinosaurs wouldn't have done as well as southern fauna. Just how the chips fall I guess
@@TalesofKaimere Indeed.
The Great American Interchange take placed while planet Earth was cooling (became colder to set up the Pleitocene's Ice Ages), and leading the warm adapted South American animals struggling to the new temperatures and making their number very, very small for each clades.
As an effect, North American animals, cold adapted and at a full normal biodiversity, didn't get much problem to conquer quickly all South America, and beat many South American fauna, if not ultimatly (with the help of humans) outcompeted them into extinction.
HOWEVER, a worth noting point with Kairul-Arvel case during this Third Mesozoic Dynasty, is that most of the Kairulan fauna implicated here was temperate cold adapted more or less equally as all the Kaishelan fauna.
And all Kaishelan fauna was at full normal biodiverse than the Kairulan fauna arriving on Kaishel by Arvel.
In that instance, both (Southern) Kairulan migrants and local Kaishelan inhabitants were at equals skills and forces when coming into contact.
Yet, Kairulan Mesozoic Dinosaurian fauna still beat and outcompeted easily and quickly the medium to large representatives of almost each Kaishelan First Dynasty clades at the end.
But here, it was due to most Kaishelan creatures, both herbivores and carnivores, not getting as larger than a human on average in term of size which made their demise. As it not big enough to rival herbivores and carnivores which can get twice or upper their size.
Rather that a low biodiversity or temperatures adaptations.
The only important thing was missed however, where there frogs yet?
haha probably! Not something I studied though
@@TalesofKaimere That is unfortunate, the frog information is severely lacking for Kaimere : (
Frogs are easily the most diverse modern amphibian clade and with a very unique body plan. Only North America has salamander diversity that outpaces frog diversity but considering that North America is #1 in salamander diversity that is not so surprising.
True Frogs exist since the Triassic, and spread to all Earth's Continent quickly and were and still are present on each since this period.
So, it 100% sure frogs were harvested each time at each harvests that have occured since the First Mesozoic Dynasty.
Just... well, all frogs are rather typical and geenric in nature/ecology and appearance, so aren't realy worthnoting or relevants to speak about them.
And their diversity would just tooooo high to be covered proprely while the main target of the episode are megafauna animals.
@@dudotolivier6363 I disagree, megafauna are cool 100% but smaller animals like frogs can be very important too, plus frogs actually fulfill a surprisingly wide variety of clades and can have bigger impacts on an environment then expected.
Smaller animals and plants can actually be what causes the megafauna in an area to change, for example the presence of grass favors a specific cast of animals over others.
Of course this being from a hypothetical fossil record this would be hard to really know what is going on, plus frogs are small so they may not fossilize well or maybe for whatever reason they didnt do well in Kaimere.
Also I like frogs and therefore am biased.
@@Exquailibur I never said something agaisnt al this, but aside the variety of niche a frogs can fit despite having a basically identical universal bodyshape, they would not being very relevant to speak about when the topic of the video speak about a given period of time from the past, and would be otherwise out topic to speak of animals we are familiar today or which isn't icons of that said era.
If you do a video speaking about the Permian, you will speak about mainly the animals which we first think when about this period and which aren't extant today, and not about the animals that live alongside and stille xist today and which aren't evolved much physically since then.
Imagine I do a video about the Oligocene and speak most about the creatures that we still have today than the ones which existed only a that time ?
Wouldn't be right.
Plus, as you said, small animals don't fossilized as well than larger one, so that isn't surprising that small fauna is overlooked.
Why did the more basal Asian stegosaurs do better then North American stegosaurs
Luck
Dimmi se sono dinosauri inventati o scoperti.
They are fictional dinosaurs
Invented
pcm but its Kaimere
authright; calling literally everything dynasty, most of the major powers are monarchies, aristocracies or normal republics
centrism; there are people who just grill
libleft; the pride episode
libright; patreon, book sales... paints merchants in a positive light
authleft; sus of large enterprises
authcenter; things going extinct
libcenter; nature nature everywhere
Edit: best ignore this comment, it doesn't have anything to offer
I might be getting overly critical: This kind of felled more like episode 2.5 rather than 3, I feel like we didn't see much about the new guys and a lot of what we saw had to do with fossils, not the animals themselves. I know it's a demanding project and we are very lucky that we have this setting as entirely, but I can't shake the feeling that this one was, lackluster. In comparison with other great works of course.
I do want to point at that Keenan works with the budget he has: he can only make an episode as big as time and resources allow. He has his own life out side of Kaimere. He isn’t our entertainment monkey! (As fun as that sounds.) I’m sure if you could sponsor another episode for this time period he would be more than willing.
@@Stooltoad5017 I sounded like a jackass didn't I? You know something, it was probably more than enough, he himself said that this was a brief period.
Unfortunately with the perspective I'm now taking with the project, being less omniscient and more directly from the Assembly perspective, it's mostly focused on the fossils and what little can be inferred from them. This episode was shorter compared to the one before and one next week, but there wasn't as much to say that I've got set in stone. It did, however, set the state for future episodes planned for the Crown of Kairul and Kaishel, so best believe there will be some payoff down the road.
@@TalesofKaimere okay, now I definitely feel like an a**hole
Don’t it is not your fault, we all enjoy these episodes to the point that we forget the purpose of its creation. You are not a a**hole for needing more context in the episode, just someone who seeks more information, that was not received in this source, besides what this episode lacks can ultimately be filled by what the next episode has to cover. ❤️👍🏼
Safe!