Yo Autumn, been on this series since you started it and been a fan for even longer! Not sure if this helps at all, but I found that you can trigger a random event after the fleshies stop agro-ing by killing a rat and burying its bones. Some guy showed me this trick 15+ years ago and it still works - I’ve never seen any UA-camrs do it, but I feel like it’s pretty useful for lamps and completionist stuff
Sounds interesting. Probably leftover code from when burying bones could only trigger a specific random (the zombie i think). But this can still only be done once every ~1.5hrs (avg time per random event) right?
I was able to trigger one about every 20 minutes. When you accept/complete the random event, it teleports you back and then resets the agro-timer. I showed tons of people in game when I played, but have never heard of it outside of the one dude that showed me way back when. Definitely got my fair share of books/lamps along the way
@@Tannerdino I want to say I’ve tried the method post 2014, but I’m not too familiar with that update. Was it pretty well known you could trigger events to happen?
@@asdf12345678977 I think there's a few old videos showing the exact method you described. Nowadays random events have an hour minimum cool down, and are only triggered on 5 minute intervals
Good to know! I don't afk here much as a P2P UIM but I do come back periodically to stock up on dust runes (low slayer), and this is helpful! i've been using the wrong room all along for resetting conveniently.
Been using the NW room all this time, I'll have to give that room a try! Also a small thing, if the NPC aggression timer has a question mark and the zones don't appear, you can go up or down one level of the SOS and it will kick everything back on. No need to teleport somewhere and use a bone frag getting back to SOS.
my f2p main has 90prayer so activating the 2 low level prayers (att + str) lasts exactly 3 str pots and 2 aggression timer resets (full arma-rune for pray bonus) clan wars tele > scepter > repeat no food needed (but I'm 99def, so this may vary for each person)
this is huge. spent so much time afking the flesh crawlers in the SE room getting crashed by low level noobs and bots all day long every day. But knowing that lvl 88s and lower will get ragged by the zombies.... Never thought about trying a different flesh crawler spot for better xp rates and for less people.
I can see why you might want this -- more so, true AFKing on mobile -- but I'd rather just click every 30 seconds on Ogresses with Ranged+melee combo method. Just camp them forever, pretty much. Great drops and decent XP. Unless you do meta for other skills later, which are very non-AFK, Ogress is way better. Just not nearly as AFK. But you still have to click Flesh Crawlers every 2 minutes for the drop. The thing I'm interested about is how you plan on getting 99 Prayer. And your 99 RC grind is going to be completely non-AFK it seems (though maybe this is fine for you since it's about a 60-day period, not years non-stop). It actually comes down to long-term plans, in terms of post-99 XP on Prayer, RC, Smithing, etc., or if you plan on quitting when you get all 99s and 200m combats. I have noticed many top players do Hill Giants. Maybe since it's kind of 'between' Ogresses and Flesh Crawlers, overall. I personally found Hill Giants to not be a good idea, without factoring in keys. I assume that doesn't change much given how rare they are, and you only get a bit of XP per kill on average.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments :) For ironmen, flesh crawlers are basically a "better than nothing" method. It takes so little effort to check the phone/pc for a few seconds every 10 minutes that it's very easy to do during most things irl. When I can, I do things that are more efficient, but when I'm busy, fleshies are better than being logged out. Picking up drops is also good, but still it's better to kill them without picking up drops than to not be logged in. I plan on getting 99 prayer from big bones (from ogresses, giants, and boneyard), or if a new faster method comes out I'll do that. I don't plan to do it anytime soon really. It's a low priority. If I actually make it to 200m melees and range without 99 prayer, it'll just be boneyard. I don't really think with a 200m-all mindset with the current meta since skills like prayer and rc simply take too long to be realistic. So the endgame for my account is to finish the 200ms I see as realistic, or 200m all if/when the unrealistic skills become realistic due to updates. As for hill giants, you are undervaluing them. They offer 6k/hr prayer xp at the desert spot as well as 50k/hr combat xp and pretty good drops including the obor loot (which is most of the loot). The current EHP meta is a mixture of ogresses and hill giants, though for UIMs minotaurs+ogresses is an excellent option too. Check out templeosrs.com/rates/skills.php?ehp=f2pim if you haven't already.
You can't make this shit up. You just had a meltdown on Twitter about hating AFKScape and goating potions. Insanely hypocritical - I can do it but I'll cry if others do it. I really don't understand the mental gymnastics you go through to justify this in your head. Would love to hear it, though!
I assume he disagrees the overall AFKness of RuneScape. He seems to only support AFKness for Flesh Crawlers, not the entire game. And he only does it whenever he wants to AFK -- most of his combat comes from non-AFK or semi-AFK monsters. I think he's doing only 200m Attack at Flesh Crawlers, but we'll see. He has been upset at the general change of OSRS for years, both in terms of AFKness and how easy it has become since 2013. But I had no idea he was ranting about such things on Twitter right now. I'm just going off his videos over the years. I actually hate how non-AFK combat is. Not all combat, but so-called AFK combat. The fact aggro timer is every 10 minutes is silly. It should be every 1 hour or at least 20 minutes, which is how long it is until you log from splashing. Most monsters are non-aggro once you're high combat, so it's not even that impactful. Just certain monsters. Most of P2P is non-AFK combat, and a lot of F2P combat is either non-AFK (like minos) or semi-AFK (like Ogresses). (Of course, I hate Flesh Crawlers, anyway, due to the fact you always need food and the drops are horrible. The fast XP does not make up for that. I'd want pure AFK, better drops, and/or more XP for it to beat Ogresses + other methods.) Of course, most of his account is non-AFK, such as ticking Woodcutting and Cooking, and ticking Rune Essence/RC, and Bodies/Noted Essence for RC, and Smithing/Crafting (well, semi-AFK, I guess). He'll have to do non-AFK Prayer later, too. (Shooting Stars is something very AFK that certain F2Pers do, also. Not much else of note, though. By default, Firemaking is non-AFK for F2P, unless you do terrible Bonfires, which no UIM is doing. Barb Fishing is really the only AFK skilling method, to my knowledge. And that's only AFK for about 60 seconds.) I don't think F2P OSRS is too AFK or easy, but certain things have made it way easier. I'd love faster or more AFK methods in F2P. Maybe 100% run at all times or just faster XP rates, and 100% XP for Bonfires, and larger mini-map to AFK from point A to point B with RC, etc. I'd also want better food source on F2P UIM or better defence gear to not get hit so hard by almost everything. I'd also want AFK Mining method like Living Rock Caverns for Gold (or every rock as with RS3's rework). But the best way to solve a lot of this might just be to remove the walk times. Make a node teleport system and move all skill nodes close to each other, or a new F2P map area. The fact you have to walk forever from rocks to furnace is silly game design. I'd want faster RC. Either better XP rates higher levels or instant-mine of Rune Essence, or even free Crafting XP by cutting the Essence into Rune Essence (akin to the P2P system for Blood Runes Essence). One great semi-AFK meta for me would be to give Mind Golems a Bones drop (Golem/Clay Bones -- maybe 6 XP each, or even 4 if you want it below normal. I don't care). But that's more like 'if I made OSRS'. The actual OSRS will never see such changes, so that's fine. I play the game the way it is right now (F2P only).
@@AutumnElegy Whatever then don't answer - because you CAN'T. You're a big, big hypocrite with no shame. You're so nice to other ppl on Twitter too, right? No you're not. Once again a hypocrite.
Bro please start an ironman, I just started one and would love to see the methods you come up with/follow and the progress you’d make! I’ll bond your account for 6 months if you’re interested!
@@tylerives5198 That's a very generous offer! p2p osrs content just doesn't appeal to me anymore though. Sorry :/ good luck with your ironman! Definitely check out JCW and heboxjonge for great p2p ironman content.
Not worth it. Cannot AFK it and terrible drops. You should just kill Cows at Crafting Guild and get Crafting XP via Tanner, is my guess. Other options include Minos (meta or close to it) and Hill Giants or otherwise if you have food and/or Prayer flick. You can use overheads and then regen Prayer but it's slower. Depends on how AFK you want to be. If you just want XP, then Monks is a good way, and you can regen HP by asking Monks. They don't hit too hard but are decent XP. No good drops, though. Kill Ogresses with Ranged and some Magic is also my advice. Semi-AFK and great drops.
Werent you flaming new 6 min afk methods on twitter just last week? Is this one more acceptable cuz it's older? Ive been a fan for a long time, you inspired me to max and pursue more efficient methods, but your armchair philosophy about the game seems more "grumpy old man" than a logical rhetoric. Your opinions are valid, i just find it hard to follow.
In short, yes. Combat has always been highly afkable (I was playing rs classic earlier this year and 5-min afked to top page hp on that server), so it doesn't bother me as much. I don't think every skill should be that way, and I think the competitive skilling landscape was a lot more interesting when not all were. In the early osrs days you knew that someone actually grinded all of their xp in mining, rc, agil, hunter, etc. and that was cool to see.
@@xPhireLight Yes, this is my understanding in relation to another comment: he is anti-AFK for OSRS as a whole, but is fine with AFKness for Attack or Ranged, etc. Even in RS2 days, there were way more AFK methods than you find on F2P UIM OSRS. Not sure when RS started to become AFKable in general, but it must have been about 2008 (more so, 2011-2013). OSRS P2P is already AFK for many skills using the most AFK methods (some of which are good, some of which are horrible XP rates). Not sure how OSRS was in 2013, but looking at the update list, P2P became AFK around 2014-2016. Now, even more AFK with the AFK Agility Course, correct? I think most of P2P will be AFK on OSRS by 2030 at this rate. Not as AFK as RS3, but about late-RS2 levels (i.e. 2012). It's already there for certain methods. F2P is likely to gain very few changes/updates, thankfully. Though, I see a good argument for certain things being AFK or having an AFK option. The major issue with F2P UIM is actually the walking, not the skilling/clicking itself. Though, the need to get food is not ideal for melee, nor the need to endlessly hop to buy from stores/shops. RC itself is just bad, and that cannot be fixed without just making the XP rate higher or something new for F2P. Other than that, the rest are doable if you just want 99s. 200m is unworkable, anyway. Prayer is very slow unless you hop in wildy. Jagex must have either wanted you to buy bones from players or never reach 99. The ratio is shocking. I'm only 62 Prayer (350k XP) after almost 9m combat XP. The only way to make that good is to kill Cows or Minos or something that drops normal Bones. I also don't like the fact some monsters don't drop bones. I think they should all drop bones. Just add new bone types or give them normal Bones. Maybe monsters that clearly are not made of Bones? Even still, Golems could drop 'Golem Bones' or 'Clay Bones', for example. Crafting is okay between Gems and Cows, but Smithing is not ideal on F2P UIM -- but it's not meant to be, of course. It's still way faster than default Prayer and RC, though -- and does indirectly give Mining XP.
Let me save you 14 minutes. You click in the middle of the room and don't pay attention for ten minutes. Run around a bit and they will start attacking you again. Do Spiders in the next level they are better.
spiders are 2k/hr faster and hit 4-5x harder. you probably can't even consistently 10-min afk them without dying, tho i haven't tried. seems kinda pointless if ur gonna be afk. the increased frequency of making trips alone probably cancels out the 2k/hr you gain.
ty for the tips on most effectively ragging other players at flesh crawlers
Yo Autumn, been on this series since you started it and been a fan for even longer!
Not sure if this helps at all, but I found that you can trigger a random event after the fleshies stop agro-ing by killing a rat and burying its bones. Some guy showed me this trick 15+ years ago and it still works - I’ve never seen any UA-camrs do it, but I feel like it’s pretty useful for lamps and completionist stuff
Sounds interesting. Probably leftover code from when burying bones could only trigger a specific random (the zombie i think). But this can still only be done once every ~1.5hrs (avg time per random event) right?
I was able to trigger one about every 20 minutes. When you accept/complete the random event, it teleports you back and then resets the agro-timer.
I showed tons of people in game when I played, but have never heard of it outside of the one dude that showed me way back when. Definitely got my fair share of books/lamps along the way
I think this was changed after the random event rework in 2014
@@Tannerdino I want to say I’ve tried the method post 2014, but I’m not too familiar with that update. Was it pretty well known you could trigger events to happen?
@@asdf12345678977 I think there's a few old videos showing the exact method you described. Nowadays random events have an hour minimum cool down, and are only triggered on 5 minute intervals
Good to know! I don't afk here much as a P2P UIM but I do come back periodically to stock up on dust runes (low slayer), and this is helpful! i've been using the wrong room all along for resetting conveniently.
Been using the NW room all this time, I'll have to give that room a try! Also a small thing, if the NPC aggression timer has a question mark and the zones don't appear, you can go up or down one level of the SOS and it will kick everything back on. No need to teleport somewhere and use a bone frag getting back to SOS.
my f2p main has 90prayer
so activating the 2 low level prayers (att + str) lasts exactly 3 str pots and 2 aggression timer resets (full arma-rune for pray bonus)
clan wars tele > scepter > repeat
no food needed (but I'm 99def, so this may vary for each person)
I'd recommend just using the str prayer since the attack one barely increases your DPS. Then your trips will be 2x as long :)
Cheers bro, doing this as we speak
Damn these agro zones are much better than what I’ve been using. Idk if I could get these precise clicks on mobile without the zone markers though
This takes me back to the og slayer cannon guide vids.
beast. was hoping you'd upload this
Wow the agro trick is pretty dope!!
this is huge. spent so much time afking the flesh crawlers in the SE room getting crashed by low level noobs and bots all day long every day. But knowing that lvl 88s and lower will get ragged by the zombies.... Never thought about trying a different flesh crawler spot for better xp rates and for less people.
I can see why you might want this -- more so, true AFKing on mobile -- but I'd rather just click every 30 seconds on Ogresses with Ranged+melee combo method. Just camp them forever, pretty much. Great drops and decent XP. Unless you do meta for other skills later, which are very non-AFK, Ogress is way better. Just not nearly as AFK. But you still have to click Flesh Crawlers every 2 minutes for the drop.
The thing I'm interested about is how you plan on getting 99 Prayer. And your 99 RC grind is going to be completely non-AFK it seems (though maybe this is fine for you since it's about a 60-day period, not years non-stop). It actually comes down to long-term plans, in terms of post-99 XP on Prayer, RC, Smithing, etc., or if you plan on quitting when you get all 99s and 200m combats.
I have noticed many top players do Hill Giants. Maybe since it's kind of 'between' Ogresses and Flesh Crawlers, overall. I personally found Hill Giants to not be a good idea, without factoring in keys. I assume that doesn't change much given how rare they are, and you only get a bit of XP per kill on average.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments :)
For ironmen, flesh crawlers are basically a "better than nothing" method. It takes so little effort to check the phone/pc for a few seconds every 10 minutes that it's very easy to do during most things irl. When I can, I do things that are more efficient, but when I'm busy, fleshies are better than being logged out. Picking up drops is also good, but still it's better to kill them without picking up drops than to not be logged in.
I plan on getting 99 prayer from big bones (from ogresses, giants, and boneyard), or if a new faster method comes out I'll do that. I don't plan to do it anytime soon really. It's a low priority. If I actually make it to 200m melees and range without 99 prayer, it'll just be boneyard.
I don't really think with a 200m-all mindset with the current meta since skills like prayer and rc simply take too long to be realistic. So the endgame for my account is to finish the 200ms I see as realistic, or 200m all if/when the unrealistic skills become realistic due to updates.
As for hill giants, you are undervaluing them. They offer 6k/hr prayer xp at the desert spot as well as 50k/hr combat xp and pretty good drops including the obor loot (which is most of the loot). The current EHP meta is a mixture of ogresses and hill giants, though for UIMs minotaurs+ogresses is an excellent option too. Check out templeosrs.com/rates/skills.php?ehp=f2pim if you haven't already.
You can't make this shit up. You just had a meltdown on Twitter about hating AFKScape and goating potions. Insanely hypocritical - I can do it but I'll cry if others do it. I really don't understand the mental gymnastics you go through to justify this in your head. Would love to hear it, though!
Bros got autism leave him alone
Dudes a fuckin weirdo let's be real here...
I assume he disagrees the overall AFKness of RuneScape. He seems to only support AFKness for Flesh Crawlers, not the entire game. And he only does it whenever he wants to AFK -- most of his combat comes from non-AFK or semi-AFK monsters. I think he's doing only 200m Attack at Flesh Crawlers, but we'll see. He has been upset at the general change of OSRS for years, both in terms of AFKness and how easy it has become since 2013. But I had no idea he was ranting about such things on Twitter right now. I'm just going off his videos over the years.
I actually hate how non-AFK combat is. Not all combat, but so-called AFK combat. The fact aggro timer is every 10 minutes is silly. It should be every 1 hour or at least 20 minutes, which is how long it is until you log from splashing. Most monsters are non-aggro once you're high combat, so it's not even that impactful. Just certain monsters. Most of P2P is non-AFK combat, and a lot of F2P combat is either non-AFK (like minos) or semi-AFK (like Ogresses). (Of course, I hate Flesh Crawlers, anyway, due to the fact you always need food and the drops are horrible. The fast XP does not make up for that. I'd want pure AFK, better drops, and/or more XP for it to beat Ogresses + other methods.)
Of course, most of his account is non-AFK, such as ticking Woodcutting and Cooking, and ticking Rune Essence/RC, and Bodies/Noted Essence for RC, and Smithing/Crafting (well, semi-AFK, I guess). He'll have to do non-AFK Prayer later, too. (Shooting Stars is something very AFK that certain F2Pers do, also. Not much else of note, though. By default, Firemaking is non-AFK for F2P, unless you do terrible Bonfires, which no UIM is doing. Barb Fishing is really the only AFK skilling method, to my knowledge. And that's only AFK for about 60 seconds.)
I don't think F2P OSRS is too AFK or easy, but certain things have made it way easier. I'd love faster or more AFK methods in F2P. Maybe 100% run at all times or just faster XP rates, and 100% XP for Bonfires, and larger mini-map to AFK from point A to point B with RC, etc. I'd also want better food source on F2P UIM or better defence gear to not get hit so hard by almost everything. I'd also want AFK Mining method like Living Rock Caverns for Gold (or every rock as with RS3's rework). But the best way to solve a lot of this might just be to remove the walk times. Make a node teleport system and move all skill nodes close to each other, or a new F2P map area. The fact you have to walk forever from rocks to furnace is silly game design. I'd want faster RC. Either better XP rates higher levels or instant-mine of Rune Essence, or even free Crafting XP by cutting the Essence into Rune Essence (akin to the P2P system for Blood Runes Essence). One great semi-AFK meta for me would be to give Mind Golems a Bones drop (Golem/Clay Bones -- maybe 6 XP each, or even 4 if you want it below normal. I don't care). But that's more like 'if I made OSRS'. The actual OSRS will never see such changes, so that's fine. I play the game the way it is right now (F2P only).
I replied to a similar but much less rude comment if you'd like to look there. I cba responding to rude ppl like you. Be nice or leave
@@AutumnElegy Whatever then don't answer - because you CAN'T. You're a big, big hypocrite with no shame. You're so nice to other ppl on Twitter too, right? No you're not. Once again a hypocrite.
I didnt know these guys were slash DMG. Ive been telling my clan to always wear chains everywhere.
YES
Few ppl more qualified than you to do this with 5k+ hrs logged lmao
Perfect timing
finally
Bro please start an ironman, I just started one and would love to see the methods you come up with/follow and the progress you’d make! I’ll bond your account for 6 months if you’re interested!
@@tylerives5198 That's a very generous offer! p2p osrs content just doesn't appeal to me anymore though. Sorry :/ good luck with your ironman! Definitely check out JCW and heboxjonge for great p2p ironman content.
Is the rs3 series still going on?
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Please delete this. Money maker ruined. Jk lol glad to see u doing well and staying true to u
This comment section is crazy lol
copied my str guide obviously..
any afk spots for 1 def pures? 🥺
Rag guide??
first
what about 1 def f2p accounts is it worth there or any other ideas?
Not worth it. Cannot AFK it and terrible drops.
You should just kill Cows at Crafting Guild and get Crafting XP via Tanner, is my guess. Other options include Minos (meta or close to it) and Hill Giants or otherwise if you have food and/or Prayer flick. You can use overheads and then regen Prayer but it's slower. Depends on how AFK you want to be.
If you just want XP, then Monks is a good way, and you can regen HP by asking Monks. They don't hit too hard but are decent XP. No good drops, though.
Kill Ogresses with Ranged and some Magic is also my advice. Semi-AFK and great drops.
@@MCharlesPainting i was asking for regular 1 def f2p account
@@rando1167Idk, his ideas for F2P 1 def seemed pretty decent to me! No member methods or anything.
Werent you flaming new 6 min afk methods on twitter just last week? Is this one more acceptable cuz it's older? Ive been a fan for a long time, you inspired me to max and pursue more efficient methods, but your armchair philosophy about the game seems more "grumpy old man" than a logical rhetoric. Your opinions are valid, i just find it hard to follow.
In short, yes. Combat has always been highly afkable (I was playing rs classic earlier this year and 5-min afked to top page hp on that server), so it doesn't bother me as much. I don't think every skill should be that way, and I think the competitive skilling landscape was a lot more interesting when not all were. In the early osrs days you knew that someone actually grinded all of their xp in mining, rc, agil, hunter, etc. and that was cool to see.
@@AutumnElegy This is crazyyy hypocritical of you
@@AutumnElegy thats fair, i guess it is an apples to oranges comparison since the example on twitter was for slayer.
@@xPhireLight Yes, this is my understanding in relation to another comment: he is anti-AFK for OSRS as a whole, but is fine with AFKness for Attack or Ranged, etc. Even in RS2 days, there were way more AFK methods than you find on F2P UIM OSRS. Not sure when RS started to become AFKable in general, but it must have been about 2008 (more so, 2011-2013). OSRS P2P is already AFK for many skills using the most AFK methods (some of which are good, some of which are horrible XP rates). Not sure how OSRS was in 2013, but looking at the update list, P2P became AFK around 2014-2016. Now, even more AFK with the AFK Agility Course, correct? I think most of P2P will be AFK on OSRS by 2030 at this rate. Not as AFK as RS3, but about late-RS2 levels (i.e. 2012). It's already there for certain methods.
F2P is likely to gain very few changes/updates, thankfully. Though, I see a good argument for certain things being AFK or having an AFK option. The major issue with F2P UIM is actually the walking, not the skilling/clicking itself. Though, the need to get food is not ideal for melee, nor the need to endlessly hop to buy from stores/shops. RC itself is just bad, and that cannot be fixed without just making the XP rate higher or something new for F2P. Other than that, the rest are doable if you just want 99s. 200m is unworkable, anyway. Prayer is very slow unless you hop in wildy.
Jagex must have either wanted you to buy bones from players or never reach 99. The ratio is shocking. I'm only 62 Prayer (350k XP) after almost 9m combat XP. The only way to make that good is to kill Cows or Minos or something that drops normal Bones. I also don't like the fact some monsters don't drop bones. I think they should all drop bones. Just add new bone types or give them normal Bones. Maybe monsters that clearly are not made of Bones? Even still, Golems could drop 'Golem Bones' or 'Clay Bones', for example.
Crafting is okay between Gems and Cows, but Smithing is not ideal on F2P UIM -- but it's not meant to be, of course. It's still way faster than default Prayer and RC, though -- and does indirectly give Mining XP.
@@AutumnElegy
Where are you playing rsc?
covid
Let me save you 14 minutes. You click in the middle of the room and don't pay attention for ten minutes. Run around a bit and they will start attacking you again. Do Spiders in the next level they are better.
spiders are 2k/hr faster and hit 4-5x harder. you probably can't even consistently 10-min afk them without dying, tho i haven't tried. seems kinda pointless if ur gonna be afk. the increased frequency of making trips alone probably cancels out the 2k/hr you gain.