Don't Make this Costly Mistake (Right vs Wrong) Tank Straps
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I have been strapping all my bikes down for 40 years using first method and have NEVER had a bike move. Good luck with the 2 strap method and yes the bike did shake during your demo. If your ever in N.C. come by and I will bring you up to speed on strapping a bike down. I am 65 and just pulled a bike from Knoxville to Charlotte and all straps were super tight....never restapped one time during trip.
You didn't strap it tight the 1st time and you know it. Been hauling street bikes for 30 yrs, and I can easily see you didn't have them tight. I agree with the tie off point you show 2nd, if the bike allows it. Better to let the bike's suspension work. Also, you better get something to hold that front wheel straight, and you should have the straps tied as far forward on the trailer as possible - there is another slot to move them up. You need something holding the rear wheel down in the 2nd set up. You should learn how to do it properly. Prefer cam style straps vs the very wide belt ratchet straps that have a hi enough rating.
Without a strap on the rear wheel and/or frame of the bike that is a a seriously insecure load. If that truck and trailer get into a snake situation, the back end of that bike is big-time walk about. All loads must be secured for worst-case scenario!
Why didn't you use the same straps for each method? That completely negates the point. If you had used the ratchet straps on the bar method, it would never come loose. Those red straps are garbage anyway. Why would you ever use $10 straps to secure your $10,000+ bike?
I think its because they are trying to sell the straps not really show the wrong method rather than what the title should be called "Good vs Bad" implies the straps where I think "Right vs wrong" puts more emphasis on the method of strapping.
Because it show that the 2st method is just as good so they swapped strap types to make them right .
I learned my lesson on where to tie down a motorcycle. NEVER tie down on the suspension. We were hauling a 100th Anniversary 1200 Sportster with the tie downs on the handle bars and hit a dip and the suspension compressed and the tie down unhooked and the bike fell and put a major dent in the tank. It cost us $400 for a used replacement tank. Always tie down off the lower fork. Thanks for posting this video.
While the Tank straps are thicker, the comparison of the two methods of strapping down the bike was different.
Agreed! If you use ratchet straps, no issues at all.
There's plenty of ways to tie a bike to a trailer. If you arrive at your destination with the bike upright and undamaged, your way works fine.
Allen Hanford I myself use two straps on each side on the front can't trust just one no matter what
James 44 MAG I've racked up many thousands of miles with just one on each side without incident. If I were to add one thing to the two-strap arrangement it would be a wheel chock. If I added more straps I'd put them in back.
It is better to let the suspension bounce in the bumps instead of forcing the suspension locked down to the floor by strapping the handlebars. A good way to damage the suspension.
As a towing and recovery operator and a biker your so wrong, there's only one way,
@@CM-nb5fp true, blew heaps of forkseals on my dirt bike by strapping from the handlebars
I also recommend tying down the back as well so just in case you go around a sharp corner the backend doesn't just slipped one side or the other. It doesn't cost anything extra and it ensures your bike is completely immobile on the trailer. Thanks again for making this video!
I agree. Secure the back end.
How would you go that exactly?
Absolutely!
@@JQUICK21 I would go right over the passenger seat. Or you could probably get a hook on the frame near the rear.
Yeah hit a bump, and your back end is free to one side or another.
I love who those who don't know, teach, and proceed to make a UA-cam video to spread bad ideas.
I clicked on the link to buy the Tank Straps. A window was then displayed, saying if I subscribed I'd receive 15% off of my first order. I completed all of the information to subscribe and proceeded to place my order. A small window appeared giving the code to receive 15% off, but it was only displayed for maybe three seconds, and was gone before I could write it down. I figured the code would be in the subscription confirmation email I was supposed to receive. When I opened the email, there was no mention of a 15% off code. I went back to the site, and when I went to the shopping cart, there was a code to receive 10% off. Through the "Contact" button on their website, I sent an email to the company asking about the 15% off offer, but they never responded. As far as I'm concerned, this entire video is nothing more than click bait.
Place 2x4’s underneath the frame and then tighten the straps down. This will prevent the shocks compressing and take the sag off the suspension.
The straps are on the lower fork. The rest of the bike still absorbs the bumps and won't cause more stress on the hitch, tongue or trailer suspension.
You didn’t strap it tight enough, mine do not come loose like that, every seller has a gimmick...
I agree sir.. he had them loose..
Plus ratchet straps take twice as long to install,
Danley Nuks but aremuch stronger and won’t slip
@@skybugproductions7527 only way to go here is with ratchet straps
You have to say “that ain’t going anywhere” and flick the strap
If you don't secure the back of that bike, you're asking for trouble.
Nice commercial, I'll continue using chalks and frame straps thanks....there's 5 minutes I'll never get back
Use wheel chocks and real straps. You used inferior straps to make the ones you are promoting look good.
Srkcycles Does the DOT agree?
Srkcycles ...I highly doubt that.
@@Srkcycles motorcycle tiedowns with cam buckles and integrated soft tie used correctly are just fine and way better pulling your forks out at the joint. You dont need a gazillion lbs load straps. You just need to install them correctly and you didn't do that with either set.
Use screws to fasten a couple of strips of wood to the deck on either side of the front wheel for added measure .
That type of strap you used first is not for equipment securement. Thats you're incompetence, not improper strap routing.
I guess I just can't see how they are put on, looks to me like it will eat the paint on the fender and damage light.
You did not use ratchet straps on it the first time you used pull straps there is a big difference I have never had a problem
Tim Almich - exactly…..
Yep.... Plus what if the fender bolts give..
@@46GarageUSA i would never put that kind of stress on my forks'
I ordered mine this morning and they just got delivered. 8am ordered 730pm delivered. They just feel like quality. I rub a flatbed for a local company so I’m dealing with straps all day and I’d feel better if we had this good quality of strap.
even with ratchets mine always loosen up a bit. maybe i'm not doing it tight enough, idk.
i use chain, no stretch. attach chain at bottom with screw link. Run chain over handle bars then about 1/4 way down and fasten with another screw link. Under chain on bars i use saw mill drive belt. Hole in each end to thread chain through so chain doesnt contact bars. Pull down on suspension and let suspension springs keep it all tight. Ive never had a chain slip or give way and it wont stretch. Never had a strap that wouldnt do some of this at some point. Ive been hauling since 1960
Straps will _ALWAYS_ stretch. It is how the material functions. If you don't want stretch you need to use chains.
Solution: After you get your straps tight give them 10 minutes then check them again.
I use 10 or 12 straps and check them periodically. The thinner straps prevalent today are not enough to use 2 or 4 in my opinion.
If a tire blows out on a trailer a bike can snap sideways hard enough to break a strap. Don't ask me how I know.
two variables: inconclusive
You can use soft ties on the engine guards, then ratchet it down. I don't put my kickstand down either
What are those strips on the trailer the straps hooked into? Where can I buy those?
Kick stand should be up. They can and do break when down.
you really need to learn how to crank those straps down bud... first of all they are way too loose your bike should not shake like that. I have been towing bikes for years..
Most experienced men tie things down properly the first time. Use a front wheel cradle, always secure the front wheel. The rest is easy
Lol any ratchet strap works just fine. I use harbor freight straps and I never lost a bike.
Used this way of strapping down my VN 1500 Classic Tourer on a regular trailer but put a extra strap on the rear end to stop it from (potentialy) bobbin around on the trailer, then drove 450 miles home, when i got home the bike was in exacly the same position on the trailer as when i started the journey, keep in mind that this is a big heavy 700 pound motorcycle and the roads where not that great after this winter and the bike did´nt move an inch, so in my opinion a great way to secure a bike on a trailer.
By the way....love the test rides and info you guy´s put out here on youtube......keep the vids coming...greetings from Sweden.
Definitely NOT the "BEST" way to secure a motorcycle.
Wheel Chock and strap from the Triple Tree or Frame. Even the handlebars would be better.
I use LA Chocks, front straps and a seat strap using a blanket to protect the seat. I hope it works. This is a great video to bring it to my attention that I have to check everything.
Do you have straps with hooks to attach to d rings
Do you know the distance between the e-track or a recommend distance?
I’m convinced and ordering a pair for by Harley! What do you think about using this method on my Kawi with inverted shocks?
It looked like it was trying to rip off the reflector. I also don't understand how it won't come off of the trailer if someone cuts it or releases the strap
I was going to say that this is an unsecured load (the 2nd strap down)... but one look at the comments and I guess most already know it. Use 4 ratchet straps every time! I did like the attachment points on the front to avoid suspension movement
how you tied it is much more dangerous than the handlebars, because all the force is supported by the screws of the front wing, when the plastic gives way you will lose your motorcycle, it binds correctly over the yoke;)
tank straps all the way baby! hahahaha! Also need to remarket these as awesome to use hauling lawn & garden equipment ;-)
I would never use that type of strap to secure a bike. Ratchet straps are the only way to go.
Putting a wheel chock on front wheel or using the Pitbull towing stand is far better but every bike has its differences
I always leave it in gear and leaning over on the sidestand (kick-stand). Three points of contact with the trailer or bed of your truck is better than only two. Imo
Maybe I've been doing it wrong for over 15yrs, but I like it anyway.
GrandPines323 hey bud old Harley Rider here I tie my down with the kickstand down too no probs
I have hauled my Goldwing cross country on a couple of military moves. Use a good quality ratcheting strap, and it is not going anywhere. Compress the springs a bit, and strap the bike front to rear also.
I have some Husky 4" straps from Home Depot. They look like the Tank straps but are $9 on sale.
I lay the bike down and use 3/8s chain and binders across the frame and crank it down until the frame starts to bend and that way I can drive like I want and she will be there when I get there
Sean, thanks for the info! Just bought another Vstar 1100 for 500 tonight that needs some love, inspired by you and your passion man.
i ride sport quads and never compress my suspension down when hauling it
Where could I get a trailer like this with the rails on the floor?
You could do this with any ratchet straps. Go up to Home Depot and get some for $10
I just purchased a set of your straps. Do you ever cover the bikes at all when transporting? I'm somewhat worried with getting chips from any little rocks on the road. I wasn't sure if you recommend anything at all?
I hauled my bike on open trailers a handful of times and never had any issues
When you get lots of rain as we do here in the UK, you absolutely need to have the backend strapped down as well.
I have a thin metal "channel" of sorts made for this purpose with a front angled piece that the front tire is pressed against. It screws to the wooden floor and the bike is rolled into the channel and strapped in front. If the bike bounces a bit the tires cannot move to the side and bike fall. As long as you compress the handlebars enough and the straps are good and tight I have never had a problem but the channel is a must have to keep the tires from moving sideways....and you do not then have to tie the back...
A removable front choc block is the best solution to secure a bike, as mentioned in the comments, then 2 straps at the back fixed forward, works for all my bikes from a sports bike to a heavy BMW GS. Perfect stability short or long haul
Can you explain the strap process on the back wheel or back of the bike? Thank You
@@JQUICK21 Yes - once the bike front wheel is in the wheel choc at the front of the trailer, use one strap either side at the rear of the bike anchored on a structural part of the frame or similar and fix it to a tie down point either side of the bike but forward of the rear wheel, this will basically pull the bike tight into the wheel choc and prevent any backward movement of the bike during transit. There will be no need to use front tie down straps. For extra precaution you could use a small strap to tie the front wheel to the choc but it not absolutely necessary
I totaled my bike by using a similar strap method that you had at first. This is your baby people, don't cheap out on straps and make sure your bike is strapped perfectly and correctly before pulling away. I know I will next time.
Well I never had any problems with any fork seals. But I never had to haul my bikes for any reasons but of time of buying the bike itself. And really a hour travel is all I ever needed to do. And no I don't bottom out the shocks, lol excuse me. So for me it worked, no damage to any of my bikes that I ever moved. Nor did the strapping ever came loosen during travel. Checked straps within 1 to 2 miles if loosen ever occurred. Well that's it my brothers in the wind. God Bless and have a amazing and safe riding season..... hey Sean have any FJR,S ?
The strongest strap down points are from the down tubes and around the engine guard where it bolts at the top.
How do I set my UA-cam settings to never see another srkcycles video again?
What if you have a dirt bike,the straps will break the fork protectors the way you are doing it,
I go around the fork above the bottom triple clamp on our dirt scooters and they dont move going down logging roads. I also put a 2x4 between the front tire up to the bottom of the front fender so you dont need to compress the forks to get a nice solid strap job
I got a truck and trailer, now just need to get the bike!
been thru some hard financial times lately, but at 45 I'm looking forward to getting on the road on two wheels for the first time! Great informational video on how to transport a bike, I learned something valuable today! :)
Those red pull straps are not designed for motorbikes the motorbike ones have a carabiner on the bottom and hook and loop at the top
What's keeping the ass end from moving around over bumps and turns?
What bike is that
Un-sprung tie down points are mandatory for transport of aircraft ancillary carts like power carts. Just like your method, the suspension is free to move naturally, and doesn't loosen the straps/chains.
Yep, 2 straps just like that...same way last 40 years..never had a prob
Why were the straps place in 2 different locations?
You could use either straps but I'd be using the engine guards to strap the bike. No stress on the wheels or handle bars and its more secure. A set in the front and the back and the bike won't move.
i do it the same way but with softies and strap the rear in the opposite direction plus a a strrap on each side . as a truck driver the unspoken rule is " you can never over secure but you can always under secure "don`t be that guy looking foolish on the side of the road picking up your motorcycle .take the time to do it right
Was the video shot in Lancaster County, PA?
Probably, SRK is over in Landisville, PA which is part of Lancaster County.
A subscriber directed me to this video after I strapped a bike down via the handlebars and it fell over in yesterday’s video... THANK YOU
whys my fender coming loose ,maybe it's that thick strap am using around fork leg it loosening the fasteners attaching it ,put a strap from floor up into a hitch around the rail through front wheel to another hitch on rail then ratchet to floor, use lower yolks to compress bike to trailer to aid stability and last strap over swing arm in front of rear tyre to the floor, in places of straps loosening then put a hitch in so friction around the hitch stops hooks bouncing off
The first straps weren't ratchet straps... So yeah they loosen up they were friction straps on a 800 lb bike
Exactly
Definetly would tie back down. Had mine move sideways already and although it wasnt gonna go anywhere it was an eye opener when i opened up and saw bike sitting crooked.also at my age and limited space i cant just pick it up and move it anymore.
My broken Harley and I once got a ride home in a pickup driven by a drunk and the bike tied down with that synthetic string they give away at home Depot (there was a lot of it). Plenty of ways to do this and make it work.
Beside the Tank Strap do you sell the rail and hook attachments to mount on the trailer for tie down. Can you do a video?
Richard Altans I hope they read this. That would be great.
+Richard Altans that's just basic e track
Just like their straps are basic straps. Nothing special. Use and wheel Chalk and keep the straps as high as possible where they have better leverage. The suspension will not be affected unless you leave it compressed for days on end. 👍
I would consider these only if it's better for the suspension.
You can do that with ANY straps!
I'd rather attached the straps to my bike's engine crash bar system on front, and equal tension on left and right sides diagonally on the rear part of the frame where possible. Done deal.
Thank you sir😊
My concern is wear on paint in how you are attaching to the front forks.
Thanks.
Strapping down a heavy road bike is totally different than a lighter dirt bike.
Would this work as well for tall dirt bikes?
depending on the type of forks you have, if the forks are inverted then the method would not work, but the straps would still be perfect to strap it using the handlebar method. an endless strap is perfect for dirtbikes. i would recommend putting something between the tire and the fender so that you dont put too much pressure on your forks. I have blown out fork seals from having my dirt bike pulled tight on the suspension.
Thank you.
So, I just trailered a bike for the first time for over 200 miles, and I used what I learned from this video and my straps were still just as tight as when I started my trip.
Thanks for the tips!!
What did you do about the back end of the bike? I think it needs to be strapped somehow also....
@@JQUICK21 I strapped it from the swing arm as close to the wheel hub as possible. I was a solid mount and did not move at all.
Just used your method to tie down my mt09 in my Ford transit connect but not with your straps Home Depot straps. My d rings are only rated a little over 1000lbs and I don’t believe that etrax is rated a lot better.
Forgot to tie down the rear as that WILL bounce all over the place, especially if there’s 2 or more bikes
The ratchet straps being advertised look like they will work good for a handfull of different mounting points. I don't like how they were mounted on the fork looking like it would contact the fender and rub some paint off as someone else mentioned in the comments. Having said that the advertised ratchet straps look like they'd hold it down pretty good, another commenter mentioned about the rear needing to also be tied down. Completely concur.
The comparison with the red friction straps to the grey ratchet strap is of course not a fair comparison. I would not even have tied my own motorcycle down with a friction, pull tight strap like that for even a tiny distance of 10 feet on a trailer being towed. Does seem a bit gimmicky, but it looks like many of the commenters realize the difference between the two. However, I'm not going to spend the amount to buy the advertised ratchet straps. I have my own ratchet straps that work just fine I have used in the past if I have to transport my motorcycle by trailer somewhere. Pretty disappointed by the comparison.
This only works on conventional forks. A properly strapped bike isn’t going anywhere, including strapping to the bars or lower clamp.
I suppose it would work on nicer upside down forks if one didn’t care about damaging the coating.
PitBull TRS for all my roadrace bikes or a baxley chock. Dirt bikes just get strapped from the bars or lower clamp using closed loop straps.
I use these on all the bikes
@@Srkcycles why do you hate the coatings/finish on the fork lowers?
I have NEVER had any problems tying my bikes off the handle bars with just 2 straps.NEVER GOT LOSE ONCE KN LONG HAULS..
Hauling 2 cruisers for years tying down from handlebars and compressed forks. Back tied to sides of trailer to prevent hopping sideways. NEVER had straps come loose. NEVER lost a bike, NEVER lost a fork seal, and NEVER damaged finish anywhere. Who would ever consider using cam straps? Who would ever consider anything less than 2000lb straps to protect their valuable bike? Who would ever leave the back end unsecured? Who would ever not secure the front wheel in a chock of some form? Useless video from inexperienced rigger.
The weight of the back still insecure for me I would have use s wheel strap at the back.
I like the idea of strapping the bike down low like that, but my bike has USD forks with exposed inner tubes. Definitely not gonna risk scratching the tubes to do it this way.
There are straps you can get that have padding and such for that very reason
I know harley sells some, but you can also get one from other places as well
If your straps are loosening up, you're doing something wrong or using the wrong straps man. Purchase 1500lb straps, preload the suspension slightly when you ratchet it down, shes skookum.
on behalf of the younger ones with no dad, thank you.
Let's park the bike outside a construction side and do a commentary, ha ha.
Comparing apples to oranges. Use actual ratchet straps for the first method instead of those little cam lock straps and it's a completely different outcome. Not taking anything away from your product, but you're doing this like an infomercial...... the old way is just as secure and just as safe if done properly.
Curious why you're not using a wheel chock to lock in the bike's front wheel.
Mr. Solitude that would eliminate the issue 100%
wheel chock does not eliminate the constant stress you put on your forks
With a wheel chock you don't need to bottom out the suspension. You can leave an inch of travel and not worry bout the front tire twisting or turning because the wheel chock holds it firmly straight. I use four straps though, two front, two back.
Srk cycles, what a joke. You guy's are clowns. Maybe you should rename your "shop" clown cycles.
You don't use them correctly also if you use occy straps to to keep the strap from suspension bounce you won't have a problem wheel chocks also a must
3:26 Shake it baby, Shake it LOL!!
Cam straps always get loose. Ratchet straps don’t. Not a fair comparison.
Incorrect in my experience. Cheap cam straps can, good ancra one's don't. Any will loosen if they get wet. If loose you didn't get them tight to begin with, like he did at 1st. Use handlebars as leverage to pull the bike to each side.
The only thing about the handle bar method is the front forks would need to be completely compressed or the weight of the bike bouncing would be real good for the front end. Tie off of the forks, tighten up the straps and you’re good to go. 🤪🎱
Just picked up a set 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
If I should decide to buy a bike from you guys when it comes time for me to buy a new bike would you have these for sale at your shop?
We always have some at the shop. We use them ourselves.
I love your content, but let’s be honest here. You put the red straps above the suspension so even IF they were tight they are going to flex with the suspension. However, with your straps you secured them below the suspension where it’s rigid.
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