Dana 35 in a TJ is a timebomb. You can beat on them but they will eventually fail if you trail ride. In the YJ it has better survival due to the spring perches being farther out from the carrier and under the axle. Trussing a 35 helps but the 8.8 is just a better more cost effective option.
True I did the same when I went up to 37-13.50 pitbulls. But with the giant pumpkin on them I can feel the loss in ground clearance which ultimately decides what you can go threw or over. I find myself wishing I kept the 35 and upgraded it every since I switched
It always shocks me watching people spin out on big solid rocks. You would think that even with the tires at standard PSI they would still get better traction than on loose dirt etc.
I thought when in 4wd front tires would turn same as rear. There are times in this video when 2nd jeep looks like rear are spinning and front not rotating at all???
Tom Nelson That's because the differential is an "open" differential. Although it is in 4wd, the power shifts over to the side with least traction. So you'll see the tire not spinning, but on the other side it is. This is why standard 4wd is not enough and lockers are required to ensure that all 4 tires spin.
domeslacker that's true but I have drove my Jeep to Hard Rock 4x4 Park in the hills are nuts I never had a problem with 4 wheel drive at all without lockers give me a break it's not sure if it's the driver that's the problem
I drive a 2002 Wrangler X with 31" tires out here in Arizona. My wife and I along with our fellow Jeepers have hit some of the worst trails and terrain that the Arizona Desert has to offer...and I have NEVER damaged my Jeep or snapped the D35 or D30 up front. You need to know what you can do and CAN'T do with a TJ...pure and simple. Might I suggest that these off roaders invest in a good winch...so when you are stuck...you winch your ass out and SAVE your Axles...and LEARN how to OFF-ROAD. Just my humble opinion...
Nice wheeling! I have a 90' YJ, ax5 2.5 d35 ect... I live near and on very nice trail riding areas but I have no jeep crew lol, solo for now, also fr ny, ithaca to be precise, keep keepin my friends!
Thomas Halley We're still not sure how his dana35 stood up to that. Likely was the fact that the tires are narrow and lighter than the standard 33x12.5. And luck. I say luck because I've had friends blow dana35s on the street running larger tires.
I ran my Wrangler with 33x12.50 cougaria m/t's and I never had a problem till the trans started grinding even with a fresh clutch and flushing clutch hydro system. Short of bouncing a locker in a stock 35 they probably won't give any issues. Now if I had run a 35 I'd probably have blown it out.
I'm undecided. But I think this kind of stuff may actually be even more boring than rock climbing. And I didn't think anything could be that boring and uninteresting.
The skinny pedal will never make up for tires and lockers. Let half the air out of those tires, engage both lockers, and crawl in the lowest gear you've got. This is just sad.
i have a wrangler yj laredo 4.0L high output that is 100% stock and has a rear LSD do you know if all yj come with a rear lsd because the one on the video doesn't look like it has one ??
i have a 1990 jeep yj on 33's tires with the dana 35 and 30 spline axle shaft never break one but there is some people out there that really like to break their jeeps
Casey Panter wrong!! I have Dana 35 with 33" with a lunchbox locker in the front .and a Lincoln locker in the back .on a tj. I've never exploded a rear end..I have stripped the splines on the axle before ..
On the TJ just curious, what gear ratio are you running and what do you have up front? I am sitting on a rear Dana 35 (3.73:1) and Dana 30 in the front and have a Ford 8.8 (4.10:1) sitting on a workbench trying to decide it's fate. '04 TJ here. Thx!
Silver TJ has 4.10s on his 35s w/ high pinion dana 30 front and 8.8 rear. It's a 4.0 with a 3spd auto. He's got an Aussie locker up front and a spartan rear, now a grizzly locker front and rear. White TJ has a 4cyl with 3spd auto. High pinion Dana 30 and 8.8 rear. 4.56 gears on 33s. Eaton locker up front and now an ARB out back.
Jessica Smith ppl are underestimating how steep the grade and failing to realize the Jeep has open differentials. Any open diff Jeep is going to have just as much trouble going up as this YJ.
for sale, slightly used never offroad lol
Locking differential helps...getting pissed off breaks things. I can't believe how easy it went down that next hill...good job.
Jesus.. those tires look like balloons.. air down
1:25 I can hear some serious engine detonation
he has more of a chance doing it , crawling and letting the tires do the work
Dana 35 in a TJ is a timebomb. You can beat on them but they will eventually fail if you trail ride. In the YJ it has better survival due to the spring perches being farther out from the carrier and under the axle. Trussing a 35 helps but the 8.8 is just a better more cost effective option.
Sheesh
Yj driver had a very interesting technique
Air the tires down next time. Free traction. The skinny pedal is not always the answer
Of you look the TJ has either a locker or limited slip in at least the rear end. The YJ has open diffs. This isn't a fair comparison.
Tom Cooper def no comparing the 2. TJ is locked front and rear while YJ is open front and rear
@@domeslacker only the rubicoj model is locked
Damon Richter the TJ in the video is locked front and rear.
True I did the same when I went up to 37-13.50 pitbulls. But with the giant pumpkin on them I can feel the loss in ground clearance which ultimately decides what you can go threw or over. I find myself wishing I kept the 35 and upgraded it every since I switched
It always shocks me watching people spin out on big solid rocks. You would think that even with the tires at standard PSI they would still get better traction than on loose dirt etc.
Excellent video with some great trail footage.
Scott
Thank you for that reply! Great video and and looks like a fun day. Gives me a cpl ideas on mine.
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Just had the front locker working that day
air down those tires to 15 psi guarantee you will not have this problem at all
Carson Smith my thoughts exactly.....and a little momentum....
Thanks brother
Throw in some lockers maybe lol.
LMFAO yes off road common sense...
Wow fast doesn't get you up. I bet he sold it when he got back home.
🤣
Camera man calls him WEAK.
Yeah, you go and do it yourself, Hero!
I thought when in 4wd front tires would turn same as rear. There are times in this video when 2nd jeep looks like rear are spinning and front not rotating at all???
Tom Nelson
That's because the differential is an "open" differential. Although it is in 4wd, the power shifts over to the side with least traction. So you'll see the tire not spinning, but on the other side it is. This is why standard 4wd is not enough and lockers are required to ensure that all 4 tires spin.
Ohh, that makes sense. Thank you.
domeslacker that's true but I have drove my Jeep to Hard Rock 4x4 Park in the hills are nuts I never had a problem with 4 wheel drive at all without lockers give me a break it's not sure if it's the driver that's the problem
I see you guys had Connecticut and New York plates. I live closer to NYC and drive a xj. Where did you guys go?
I see NY plates, and other one which was blue, is this in NY? ( upstate)
It's the damn leaf springs!
Everything they tell you about a Dana 35 is true. Difference is, locked vs open carrier. They don’t cope well being locked.
5:50!!! What's wheelin with buddies is all about!
yj needed track bar and tie rods detached i think. and Tires
I drive a 2002 Wrangler X with 31" tires out here in Arizona. My wife and I along with our fellow Jeepers have hit some of the worst trails and terrain that the Arizona Desert has to offer...and I have NEVER damaged my Jeep or snapped the D35 or D30 up front. You need to know what you can do and CAN'T do with a TJ...pure and simple. Might I suggest that these off roaders invest in a good winch...so when you are stuck...you winch your ass out and SAVE your Axles...and LEARN how to OFF-ROAD. Just my humble opinion...
Michael Skokauckas
2 jeeps (not shown in this video) were there that day and both equipped with winches.
One of them had a warn Jeep on video..but I agree..speed isn't a substitute for a locker
All you need is one jeep with a winch and you are good. Now a winch that mounts to a tow hitch is a real deal.
Nice wheeling! I have a 90' YJ, ax5 2.5 d35 ect... I live near and on very nice trail riding areas but I have no jeep crew lol, solo for now, also fr ny, ithaca to be precise, keep keepin my friends!
Haha I'm solo too...no friends lmao
Just get a winch...Will become your new off road bff lol.
lotta weight in that yj
Some people just do not understand
the stock axles are fine unless you jump or from my understanding run locked 35's with 35's but in stock form probably won't break.
Thomas Halley We're still not sure how his dana35 stood up to that. Likely was the fact that the tires are narrow and lighter than the standard 33x12.5. And luck. I say luck because I've had friends blow dana35s on the street running larger tires.
I ran my Wrangler with 33x12.50 cougaria m/t's and I never had a problem till the trans started grinding even with a fresh clutch and flushing clutch hydro system. Short of bouncing a locker in a stock 35 they probably won't give any issues. Now if I had run a 35 I'd probably have blown it out.
@@thomashalley7258 or just do a super 35
Damn open diffs!!!!😂
I'm undecided. But I think this kind of stuff may actually be even more boring than rock climbing. And I didn't think anything could be that boring and uninteresting.
I like that orange red yj. very clean
Look at the YJ left front leaf shackle :)
The skinny pedal will never make up for tires and lockers. Let half the air out of those tires, engage both lockers, and crawl in the lowest gear you've got. This is just sad.
YJ wranglers didn’t come with lockers
True statement. But there is a very good reason most of us add them. :)
i have a wrangler yj laredo 4.0L high output that is 100% stock and has a rear LSD do you know if all yj come with a rear lsd because the one on the video doesn't look like it has one ??
12Achilleas his def didnt have LSD.
+12Achilleas My 89 yj has front axle lsd....
i have a 1990 jeep yj on 33's tires with the dana 35 and 30 spline axle shaft never break one but there is some people out there that really like to break their jeeps
Had the same set up with a 350 sbc Dana 35 open diff and never had issues. Have upgraded to 8.8 since, to utilize a locker.
open diffs thats why intact
A fine combination, a kids ego / stupidity and daddy's money.
ego sure, stupidity-debatable. Dad's money? You're way off the mark. That dude makes his own cash, builds his own rigs.
The video doesn't do that hill justice
It certainly is steeper in person
jesus I hate seeing this. I am sure that D35 needs work after that
It was painful to watch. That little YJ took a beating.
Open diffs = 2 wheel drive. Add 50psi in tires. Fail.
Brad Hough he made it though, right?
Sum1 needs lockers or at least posi
hi guys whats the benefit of the up side down shocks??
nothing
So the silver TJ has a Ford 8.8 in the rear and a Dana 30 up front?
yes, it's an HP Dana 30 from an XJ. He now has a wagoneer dana44 up front and is on 38" tires on a 2" lift with long travel shocks.
Go team Jeep! haters gonna hate, don't mind them ;)
where is this?
lol this guy is a good cameraman but a horrible spotter
My 95 jeep would even struggle at all and it's a manual! These guys are a joke
nicholas Bontkowski if only you could have been there to tutor us in your 4x4 wisdom!
These guys are having fun and not staying home ragging on others on you tube.
He made it cause I prayed for the jeep not to break
AMATEUR DRIVING, WRONG TIRES CAN MESS A GREAT JEEP OFF ROAD!
Adebowale Adesida BFG KM2s are used by many. Tires weren't the issue, lack of locker was
If he just had a locker...
Casey Panter wrong!! I have Dana 35 with 33" with a lunchbox locker in the front .and a Lincoln locker in the back .on a tj. I've never exploded a rear end..I have stripped the splines on the axle before ..
What's the specs on white tj?
Andrew Mcdonald at the time it was on 33s, selectable forward locker, Ford 8.8 rear and Dana 30 front. 2.5” suspension
good spirit, love it!
Nice
"Is there a problem" yeah the stock Yj can't make it 🤣
On the TJ just curious, what gear ratio are you running and what do you have up front? I am sitting on a rear Dana 35 (3.73:1) and Dana 30 in the front and have a Ford 8.8 (4.10:1) sitting on a workbench trying to decide it's fate. '04 TJ here. Thx!
Silver TJ has 4.10s on his 35s w/ high pinion dana 30 front and 8.8 rear. It's a 4.0 with a 3spd auto. He's got an Aussie locker up front and a spartan rear, now a grizzly locker front and rear.
White TJ has a 4cyl with 3spd auto. High pinion Dana 30 and 8.8 rear. 4.56 gears on 33s. Eaton locker up front and now an ARB out back.
Lmao. I pooped a little. Lmao
very nice buddy
Yj guy good job!!!!
No es el jeep es el piloto
Cool vid
Air down
That is all driver do not blame that jeep it's not his fault he don't know how to drive
Jessica Smith ppl are underestimating how steep the grade and failing to realize the Jeep has open differentials. Any open diff Jeep is going to have just as much trouble going up as this YJ.
Jeepin*
this is what they really mean when they say highway miles.....garage kept....lol...lmao
That's what jeeps are made for. Not the highway.
It was a cool.vid
Get off-road driving lessons that jeep should make it like nothing
Esteban Gallego If it had a locker it would have made it "like nothing". But it had open differentials and therefore it struggled on the hill climb
Lol love it ehhh all the way