Orthodox Apologetics Part 6: Distinctions of Lutheranism And Other Early Reformation Movements

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  • Опубліковано 11 лис 2020
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    Metropolitan Jonah Paffhausen continues his Orthodox Apologetics series. Part six: Distinctions of Lutheranism and Other Early Reformational Movements. Edited down due to background noises and extraneous content.

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  • @LutheranIdentity-uj8yk
    @LutheranIdentity-uj8yk 7 місяців тому +11

    Thank you for an honest presentation of Lutheranism.
    However, I would like to point out a couple of things:
    Traditionally, Lutheranism recognizes three sacraments: baptism, communion and confession. We define a sacrament as something that 1) is instituted by Christ himself 2) something that conveys grace. This is a minimalist definition of the concept of sacrament. One could very well recognize 7, or 13 sacraments - or more - but we choose to be restrained rather than maximalist.
    The Lutheran reformers always maintained the desire to preserve the structure of the church, but in the choice between abandoning the structure of the church and obeying the Pope and his lies, the reformers in Germany chose the latter. In Scandinavia, however, we were able to maintain the older order, for which we are grateful.
    We do not reject praying for the dead. What was reject was the Roman system of charging poor people for masses and intercessions, long after the passing of the dead. One or two prayers for the deceased are enough. The dead are in the hands of God after that.
    We believe that the saints and angels pray for us, but we have no scriptural promises connected to praying to them - so we avoid it.
    God bless

  • @guyparker1749
    @guyparker1749 6 місяців тому +3

    A Lutheran here.God bless..you and yours..

  • @sparky4581
    @sparky4581 10 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for treating Lutheran teaching fairly. Most don't and i want to say thank you.

  • @MosesMedinaE
    @MosesMedinaE 3 роки тому +9

    A prior Lutheran here. Great video thank you!

    • @jterrellielli7058
      @jterrellielli7058 3 роки тому +1

      @Zachary Sunday yikes. I wouldn’t. I’d go Catholic before Protestant of any kind. They share the same sacramental faith as Orthodoxy. And there’s always a Catholic parish nearby.

    • @MosesMedinaE
      @MosesMedinaE 3 роки тому +1

      @Zachary Sunday I would respond with no, it is best to do the typica. What is best however is to get with your priest if you have one or reach out to one if you do not. If you would like to dive deeper though I would be happy to.

    • @robertocaetano4945
      @robertocaetano4945 2 роки тому +2

      Greetings Lutheran brother, for a another Lutheran brother.

    • @nathanjstoic
      @nathanjstoic 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jterrellielli7058The Orthodox church is closer to the Lutheran view of the Eucharist than the RCC.

    • @bigniftydude
      @bigniftydude 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@nathanjstoicI agree, Lutherans take a face value understanding of the Lord's supper. This IS My Body this IS My Blood

  • @squantojones3836
    @squantojones3836 3 роки тому +4

    A very edifying course. Thank you so much for sharing this!

  • @felixcharles9773
    @felixcharles9773 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, they’ll let anyone preach over at the Orthodox Churches huh?

    • @lornadoone8887
      @lornadoone8887 8 місяців тому +5

      No. Only an Orthodox Bishop or Priest, Deacon or monastic he appoints typically.
      This is not a homily/preaching, however. It’s a teaching session in a much less formal setting.