Has The Black Adam, Shazam Fiasco Hurt Dwayne Johnson's Image
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I am seeing him in a different light now to be honest. If he can't be the star in whatever project he won't do it? There's a difference between being your own boss and having everything your way or no way.
I think Dwayne Johnson's actions and ego definitely affected the quality of both Black Adam and Shazam 2. It's not about just him preventing cameo appearances. If the reports are true... he did not want his Black Adam character or even the Justice Society to be involved with the Shazam franchise at all. This almost certainly directly affected and restricted the writing and creative process related to both Shazam movies. The writers were essentially handcuffed and did not even have access to Shazam's main nemesis??? That was just ridiculous. It's not just about the cameos.
It’s the fact that he’s openly stated he’s the main influencer for the Black Adam movie…and it was kind of terrible for me and mine. It’s definitely made me think twice about anything he’s attached to if he has much sway.
Love the Rock lol but man bro be the villain simple as that lol would of been so cool if the 3rd movie would of been a vs one
Dwayne has needed this humble pie. It’s been a long time coming.
The rock finally showed his true colors and it all backfired on his face.
👀
I don't know how much it will hurt his image long term, but it's definitely had an impact now. I can't remember any other time in his career where there's been a lot of negative press about him.
Dwayne Johnson has long been notorious for his ginormous ego, so this whole fiasco with Black Adam and Shazam comes as no surprise to me, and probably not to most other people too. I don't think this would necessarily "hurt" his image, his image has always been narcissistic and egotistical.
Only to his haters 😏
Oh so you know him personally ?
@@TheMa5cmpb no but you can tell alot about someone based on their actions, the Rock always wants to play the "hero" and be the center of attention, his refusal to be in the Shazam movie or let the JL characters appear in Shazam 2 is more proof of his ego. He was so obsessed with wanting a Black Adam vs Superman movie even though BA is a Shazam villain, not Superman's. And turning BA from a villain in the comics to a antihero in the movie just because he wanted to play the "hero" all prove just how narcissistic and egotistical he is.
Like every other movie star who has ever existed. Or they wouldn't be in that job
What utter nonsense.
His biggest hits are ensemble movies💯
He brings them back from nothing
No
I wrote this a couple day's ago when he mentioned that DJ was the biggest movie star in the world. I wrote when it's am ensemble yes, but when he's the sole headliner his BO do ok but nothing that screams "biggest movie star in the world"
@@reggiebrown9508 the solo movies are still hits and make money
I think it would've been way better if Black Adam had been the villain of the shazam sequel. Black Adam could've defeated shazam making him an unstoppable force, working him up to God tier level villain eventually leading to a Black Adam vs Superman showdown with Henry Cavill
The average person who doesn't watch shows like these have no idea about this story nor the ones with Ezra Miller the past year. These stories are big to us, but not to the rest of the movie going world.
🚨 John, the Rock did a lot to damage Shazam.
1. Black Adam should had been in Shazam before a solo movie.
2. The Rock was Producer on Black Adam; but, he should had allow the JSA to be in Shazam to support DC overall. The Rock failed to care about DC; he care more about himself.
He isn’t the movie star that he’s making him out to be. There’s been plenty of Dwayne’s movies that flopped at the box office.
99% of fans have no idea the drama that he has been involved in. That being said, it seems pretty clear to me that he wants desperately to be involve in a big time franchise and I don't see how many movie execs handcuff themself to him knowing that he doesn't exactly have a positive history of being a team player.
I mean even if fans have no idea about the drama, it still matters that there could be drama. Because the drama supposedly involves high ranking executives and they can say no to Dwayne Johnson movies going forward.
He never loved the comic books. He saw how RDJ made nine figures over the course of his time with Marvel and he wanted that. He’s 50. He’s only got so much time left to be the big action guy. DC was supposed to be his retirement plan.
He’s been trying to get Black Adam made for a lot longer than the MCU has been around
I hope so. I'm tired of that guy
In all honesty, the general audience doesn't care nor knows about this controversy and will continue to see him,unless he pulls a Will Smith
I think his overall career will be fine no matter what. However I do think that established franchises will be less likely to add him to the ensemble now that 2 of the most famous franchises of all time have spoken out publicly against him. If I was running a big franchise, I would be worried about adding him and having to put up with that kind of behavior. Although he will most likely always have movie roles because of his larger than life charisma and action movie experience.
The people saying no must be die hard fans of his or plain stupid dumb if they don’t think Rock’s image has been spiralling since Henry Cavil being fired. He has been a very shady guy seeing what he did to Brendon Fraiser who literally gave him the break. He tried to also do a power grab in Fast series which led him to another bomb which was Hobbs & Shaw on which he was betting all his cards like he did after on Black Adam.
Everyone wanted to see black Adam vs shazam with a superman team up .
IM JUST SUFFERING FROM THE ROCK FATIGUE. HE BASICALLY JUST BECOME A MEME FOR ME AT THIS POINT
I thought Black Adam would be good. But I didn’t like. The movie because it just missed something basically the rock just played himself.
I never understood the appeal of the rock. He plays the rock in every movie without substance. He’s good at catering to the lowest common denominator of acting. Cena and Batista (to bring up other wrestlers turned actors) seem to be genuinely interested in strengthening their craft and are looking to transition to legit acting. Personally i wish the rock would stop acting and go back to the wrestling world. Just be an announcer or do commentary.
I totally agree with you! The Rock can't act And does not seem to be improving.
This situation isn't as bad as the fallout with Vin Diesel but this does support the argument that he goes behind people's backs to get films made where he's in total control. Seems like this is how he got Hobbs and Shaw made 🤦🏾♂️😂
Ever since that beef started and how’s he’s been over the last years he needs to humble himself
@@geogarcia4097no he really doesn’t
Even though overall The Rock has been the most successful wrestler turned actor in terms of box office, John Cena and Batista have had more memorable roles. If all three retired from acting today, people would remember Cena as Peacemaker and Batista as Drax. Has The Rock really had that memorable role?
Hobbs, yes.
Agreed. Cena and Batista seem to be interested in strengthening their craft and transitioning to legit acting. The rock just plays the rock everytime without substance. I never understood his appeal at all.
For really tho
I feel like my disconnect is that despite the “15 years of working” on Black Adam, it felt like a lazy movie. The script was poorly written and basic. The acting wasn’t anything special and poor in some areas. The visuals were fine in some places and bad in others. And worst of all, DJ sanitized a villain and anti-hero and turned him into a largely benevolent hero, like he does with every character he plays. So I didn’t see this as a “big swing”. It was like a thousand other DJ movies, it just had super powers. And I think the schtick is starting to wear people out
Didn’t he turn down cameos on the first Shazam and another DC production? Maybe the vin diesel drama wasn’t near as one sided as thought.
Damage among the general audience?, nope. Damage among studio execs and insiders?, Up in the air....
Vin Diesel’s looking a bit better now 😂
All Vin Diesel does is those Fast movies.
1st & biggest mistake was no Shazam, without Shazam there's no black Adam. Respect the source material
Knowing how relentlessly mean and unforgiving the Internet is I think this could damage his image quite a bit, obviously not for the people outside of the movie fan bubble but it might for the people in it, I mean just look at Patty Jenkins, after she made the first Wonder Woman everyone loved her and said she was great, but after WW84 everyone instantly started treating her like a criminal, now they’re like “Don’t let that woman near a single movie ever again because we don’t want her terrible directing to ruin it” Maybe it would be different if it was just any other movie but superhero and Star Wars fandom is horrifically toxic and whenever something in it isn’t good or they make a change that the fandom doesn’t like these people always wanna tie the people involved to a pole and burn them alive, and so just based on that I would sadly say there is a pretty big chance that this will hurt Dwayne Johnson ‘s image for these people, it won’t for me but I think it could for them
Some of The Rock's smear campaign is weird, bcuz when it was reported that WB execs had an issue with him going over their heads, ppl took the Rocks' side. When he publicly dissed Hamada about Cavill, ppl took The Rock's side. Not 1 person complained about him strong arming WB when they thought that it would lead to the return of Henry Cavill. Even though he openly said a long time ago that he preferred that Black Adam & Shazam not be tied together in his origin story, ppl just now want to put the blame on him. It's like suddenly The Rock turned heel, bcuz the fans got tired of him & it's the trend now to hate him lol
He needed a humbling and he got it with the failure of Black Adam. All the years of non-stop talk and anticipation paid up for nothing. It’s not gonna hurt him long term but it’s gonna be hard for studios right now wanting to work with him.
I’m not convinced he’s fully admitted to himself that Black Adam was a failure.
@@jaybling6687 oh he won’t. Even when he does he always tends to go towards the audience score on RT which shouldn’t be taken seriously.
Truth to be told a second Shazam movie should have been a Shazam vs Black adam movie. This would been a better premise, the older worthy one vs the new one. The whole story could have been better. But then again a lot of DC fans have decided not be invested in the last couple of movies because of the writing and the spectacle of these past few movies.
I don't think he'll have any real fan issues. I do believe studio heads and producers may pause before they decide to involve him in future projects.
Yeah the Rock is getting corny and some people been tired of him for awhile now anyway.He has to come out with something special and not movies that seem like they should've been made in the 90's
It’s not the audience he has to worry about, it’s the studio execs
This. 100%.
Won't affect him at all. General audiences and movie goers don't know or care about behind the scenes Hollywood politics
Loving this realization about the Rock
I bet you do
It’s like in 2023 people have juuuuuust discovered that The Rock is a professional wrestler, and what professional wrestlers do is hustle everyone they can and try to put themselves over at everyone else’s expense.
From the standpoint of a former pro wrestling fan, nothing surprised me about The Rock’s power play at DC. Every wrestler wants to book their own finishes
I didn’t like Black Adam (at all) BECAUSE I had big issues with it.
GOTG was an unknown franchise but excelled because the writing was amazing, the story was actually interesting, and the right actors were picked.
The Rock is clearly a talented and creative man, but it would be nice to see him play a supporting role where it’s not just The Rock being The Rock. Shazam 2 with Black Adam as the villain, just an evil, bipolar opposite of Shazam, would have been the best fan service. But he played it safe, as usual, and we got another very forgettable performance. I would appreciate it if for once he could flex and his acting and try something different.
Talented and creative?
Well GOTG also has the hype of the avengers behind them. because everyone knew they was going to be part of the story
Playing it safe would have been being in Shazam 2 what comic book fans wanted.
“Black Adam” was the best mediocre mediocrity that The Rock’s ego could dish up.
I don’t think the general audience care. The comic-book diehard superhero fans will obviously care. Cuz it’s their fav character Black Adam being misused and disrespected for not associating more with Shazam but making him a Superman villain. It be like Venom coming into the MCU but instead of being with Spider-Man, they make him an Iron Man villain
They should be blaming WB/DC not the Actor.
Like Martin Scorsese said “people don’t go for the character, they go for the star.” So technically yes it is his fault.
There has been damage to all parties involved, especially WBD and yes, Rock Johsnon included.
If he bet everything on Black Adam, he should had picked better director and writer. Like Will Smith, this says a few thing about the Rock
1) His ego got the better of him, ego is never good, not team player and can never work with anyone.
2) As charismatic as the Rock, he's a predator not a savior, and he smell blood on DC, and he missed
He'll be fine.
As the rock has gotten more and more famous, his demands and creative changes has increased. I've been saying this for years now. He is ALL about fan service and not actual story. I believe he's made some of his more recent projects worse because he bullies studios into fulfilling his creative vision instead of the director's.
There is no creative vision from the directors because they are hired by Dwayne Johnson.
His size and physical features would make him a good choice for Apocalypse in the MCU. If they did a comic book accurate version.
No his image isn't going to take the slightest hit after this. No one in the general public even cares about this "behind the scenes" stuff like we do.
I’m not going to blame him for Shazam’s failure but he does get a huge blame for Black Adam’s failure. He had 15 years to prepare for a role and butchered it. That’s like preparing for an open book test for years and still failing. Black Adam’s failure and his lack of respect and understanding of the character is on him.
Spot on
Dwayne Johnson's acting has hurt his image.😂
Not at all, dude could still draw crazy money in any movie. Are you serious? 😂
Think of it this way on DJ’s “mid movie” the lowest he can make is 393M like…
Reminds me of how cruise ghost directed The Mummy and destroyed the Dark universe.
The fact that the Rocks best movie was The Gridiron Gang with a based on a story script and great acting was never mentioned or talked about or considered for any awards tells you just how shady Hollywood can be. Can't blame the Rock for wanting to call his own shots when he's worked tirelessly throughout the years to get to where he is at now.
The rock has to be the head of every franchise
The Rock is not a good actor! Also, he favors ego and money over good character or good story. The Rock being in a movie is a red flag to me.
The rock is a great actor you are crazy
I mean with all this it's surely confirms what's been going on with Fast and the Furious
Too bad we'll never see Shazam fight Black Adam on the Big screen... smh
Shazam is basically Power Rangers.
How many actually good movies has The Rock actually been in? The Jumanji movies sure, but he is like the fourth or fifth best character in those.
And I would say he was good in Moana too.
The Rundown was decent
And even then in Jumanji The Next Level Awkwafina did a way better job of playing both versions of his characters. I brought her way more as Spencer than I ever did when DJ plays him and she was way funnier as Grandpa Eddie than he was
...isn't Black Adam second banana to Shazam...like Joker is to Batman...?
I think The Rock needs to check is ego a bit and allow writers do what's best to make a compelling story and not caterer to his branding.
John please stop pandering to Dwayne Johnson I know he’s your favorite movie star but this narrative that he hasn’t pulled a power move & bullies people is not new, a few executives on Hercules said he went behind their back to get what he wanted
I think the problem was that he wasn’t being a true team player in terms of the Shazam franchise, and the rest of the DCEU. Like how do you distance yourself from Shazam knowing he’s an integral part of the Shazam story. He also downplayed other DC characters of the JSA… even the Shazam actor shared a post on the story of his ego. So he clearly rubbed some actors and studio execs the wrong way. He’s been known to hijack other things like the fast and furious franchise and make his own spin-offs, because he wants to lead his own franchise. So he does somewhat have a bit of a huge ego on his shoulders. He needs to be an actor first and foremost and not tell the execs what they should do in terms of leading a franchise. He needs to be a team player and do what’s good for the story and the franchise as oppose to what’s good for his career.. that’s what happened with Tom Cruise in the Dark Universe
"Dwayne Johnson interfered, it wasn't a lot", sure, it wasn't a lot, I mean, trying to disconnect Shazam and Black Adam from each other wasn't a big deal right? Because him and Zachari Levi didn't had the same agent or something, like him (Dwayne) and Cavill did, an agent that as has been reported Henry Cavill fired after all this fiasco. We just wanted Shazam Vs Black Adam, with Adam being a bad guy, because that's what he is at the end of the day, A VILLAIN.
The agent is his ex wife Dany Garcia
NOT AS MUCH AS, HANGING OUT, WITH OPRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE'S NO LONGER, THAT WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There was some drama with fast and furious too
Best move for The Rock right now is to finally do a program with Roman Reigns and at least get wrestling fans back in his corner. They're not against him right now or anything, but are mostly indifferent to him since he hasn't been around in a while. Their support went a long way for him in his early career
The public's memory is short. It'll depend on how his next several movies do.
The box office luster is definitely starting to wear off. Both Black Adam and Jungle Cruise lost money. The Jungle Cruise sequel announcement makes no sense in that regard, but considering it was announced under Chapek and Chapek is gone, I don't see it happening now.
And John talks about Dwayne Johnson being a guy who always takes big swings. That may be true financially, but certainly not from a creative point of view. Whatever level of entertainment value his movies have, there's no denying that pretty much everything he does feels safe, standard and generic, processed by a studio committee if you will. And while his films in the past have made easy money, they don't make as big money as one would think. With the exceptions of the Fast & Furious films (including Hobbs & Shaw), the Jumanji movies and Moana, no Dwayne Johnson movie has ever crossed half a billion dollars.
There's a feeling that the budget of his movies has increased significantly yet the box office remains stagnant on average which means that his movies are becoming less financially sustainable. And while the public may remain oblivious to the supposed turmoil, it still matters that there could be turmoil because it involves high ranking studio individuals and those people could very well be less willing to put out Dwayne Johnson movies.
What happened with fast and furious we have to evaluate from a new perspective. The Rock is not the person we think he is. it went to his head.
He’s amazing person & so charismatic but he doesn’t make amazing movies
I don’t think his acting is why people love him? Thoughts?
I mean he did sabotage the Shazam Black Adam crossover
Nah their just trying to blame someone for Shazam bombing so badly, if it was a huge success that they wouldn’t have said anything.
Rick got the benefit of the doubt with the Vin Diesel beef. This now shines some doubt on that assumption. So what may have been a one off with Shazam now kind of appears to be a pattern
I do think in the case of F&F it was two ego’s clashing
I bet Dwayne regrets being in a DC movie now.
@Christopher Fluker DC might as well stand for Dead Careers
If he was really a black Adam comic book fan then he would know that not including shazam would kill both movies so I don’t want hear he’s a comic book fan when he’s trying to get black Adam vs Superman FOH without shazam black Adam don’t exist
Oh no, The Rock has turned heel!
Rock is always trying to put his spin on things. He wanted to center the DCU around himself. And when Black Adam wasn't the big hit he anticipated he started claiming everyone else's math was wrong. He tweeted out that post adding in streaming figures to Black Adam's box office and claiming it made a profit. Rock has no problem deceiving his fans, and sometimes I think he buys into his own BS. I remember when he attacked the critics when they gave Baywatch bad reviews. The Rock is overly sensitive.
It won't. He's too overexposed and should cut back in making movies
Dude your D riding Rock right now
I've definitely lost some respect for johnson
Congrats on upcoming 20 years John. Been following you since the Movie Blog way back then, I’m happy for you.
The Guardians of The Galaxy is a bad comparison given the mismanagement of Warner Bros leading up to it , GOTG had 9 strong films leading into in which Marvel did not blink or waiver , it's amazing what you can accomplish when you stick to your plan
I just watch Shazam 2 and it is a good movie, DC is not broken. I think the problem is that they want every movie to be a Billion dollar movie.
I really enjoyed DJ when he first started to get into movies. His version of Walking Tall is awesome. I enjoyed his "franchise Viagra" stage. Over the past few years I've started to sour on the dude a bit though. He's just everywhere and I think he's kind of oversaturated his brand.
dude he was so humble back then, he did small role, independent films, play villain in comedy. Now if he in the movie and he's not the main guy, he not doing it. He won't do movie where he lose the fight. He might as well play Superman.
Vin was right, we should have listened to groot
All he does is those Fast movies.
Look I don’t think that Dwayne public image and career is going to fall after Black Adam. Like you said he took a huge gamble and he loss. That’s the thing about gambles if you win you win big however if you lose you lose big as well. And no I think his reputation will suffer unless he rock bottoms a comedian at the Oscars for making a gi Jane 2 joke. Will reputation is done after what Chris said. But as for the rock not really. It’s just a bump in the road. Nothing too bad.
We will see when Bad boys 4 & I am legend 2 come out. Coz by then I’m sure people will be over the slap.
@@RoseyRK fair enough. However personally for me as a comedy fan I can’t forgive him at least for right now. who knows 5 years from now that could change but we shall see.
For me?
Yes!
Naw the XFL is hurting his image, but if he does 1 more wrestling match and return for a cameo appearance in Fast and Furious, he will be back on hot streak
So I grew up the biggest Rock fan. Had his poster up and everything.... I am disgusted with how he treated the fans and how selfish he was during this entire process. Every move was to benefit his pockets. It's sad that he couldn't just play the villain for a film or two just to build the story up. I feel like if they went that route, the proper way, then there might have been a future for Shazam and Black Adam. I also blame David Sandberg, but its more of a personal pet peeve. I cannot for the life of me ever think of creating a new villain in the DC universe when there is a pantheon of villains to choose from. In my opinion, the movie deserved to fail on that choice alone, I can't stand that shit... thinking I was going to pay money to see Shazam fight an old woman.
I’m sorry but when Dwayne restricts his own character and his characters arch nemesis from ever even meeting then he’s lost all credibility in my book
I'm sure for now people are gonna talk about it. But i think in time people are gonna forget.
You say that Ryan Reynolds and The Rock are your favorite movie stars. So Red Notice must be your favorite movie .
Still campea supporting him. He always just fanboys rock.disgusting
What's disgusting to me are the toxic Snyderverse/Henry Cavill-virgin fanboys.
Nobody knew who the GOG but fans went to see that movie because it was a part of the infinity saga that movie wouldn’t have been as popular if it was a one off
I ve heard Campea is eventually retiring in 2025, because he earned it?!? While Im wishing him a good time in general, casual people have to work harder and longer. And they earning it way more.
Well, he was correct that the hierarchy of DC changed after the release of Black Adam. He is now at the bottom and Gunn is at the top
Until Supes comes out, Gunn is only a step above Johnson
Gunn is trash and his Superman movie will bomb
@@Vicsongwriter Gunn will be great
@@patricktyler4712 so you want to wait and have a 44 year old Cavill Superman
Nope. I’ve seen the Rock hit Ken Shamrock in the face with a steel chair. The Rock has been a heel and I still cheered for him.
The Rock has been and always will be one of the best heels in the game.
Hollywood Rock two decades ago was the best heel version of The Rock 😆
I never trusted him after he bullied Tyrese
The issue is that it is obvious now that DJ has a big ego. It was always misguided of him to try and make a character like Black Adam the center of the DC universe. If he had not tried to make the DC universe about him, there would not have been a backlash. And at the very least, he should have had more quality control if he's talking about Black Adam so much.
The Rock will be just fine. He’s still every bit as squeaky clean and without scandal as he’s ever been. If this is the worst the studio hit pieces can dig up on him, then it means he’s a threat in the business and has done a lot more right than wrong.
It’s definitely damaged his image. He went from an all-American dreamboat to an ego-driven producer making bad choices.
The Rock's ego got in the way. The fact that he wanted his own Black Adam movie and didn't want to appear in The Shazam movie and wanted to fight Superman is concerning. It's like Heath ledger not wanting the Joker to be in a Batman movie and said that the Joker should fight Superman.
As a fan for 25 years since his days in the WWF this is the first time I am honestly disappointed in him. I think he finally let his ego get ahead of him a little bit. I supported him through the fast beef because it seemed like Vin was unprofessional but I am not happy he tried to butt in with the studios decisions and it seems like he tried to throw his weight around. Black Adam is a C level DC villain and it’s ludicrous he thought that Black Adam was going to be at the forefront of the DC universe.