3 Factors Killing The Movie Industry
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The TJCS crew discuss the external factors that are wiping out the movie industry business.
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I hate that cinemas don’t enforce rules anymore. There’s way too many people on their phones and talking throughout the movie. I don’t want to sit there in anger for 2 hours lol
Omg this happened to me twice. And the worse part is that the ppl that work at these theaters r mostly students who no nothing about how to handle security.
The #1 thing hurting the movie industry is when they expedited films coming to streaming. I feel no incentive to go see a movie in theaters when I know it will be on a service THAT I ALREADY PAY FOR in like a month or two.
They need to have scramblers that interfere with cell phones signals like they do at medical facilities
I remember when I watched sonic 2 these parents literally let there kids run back and forth in row infront of me I was going CRAZYYY
@@davidjames579I love Alamo Drafthouse for this. 🙌🏻 Now if only AMC and Cinemarks would adapt the same standards.
The biggest reason is cost. It's expensive to go so people pick movies that make sense to see in a theater.
Streaming is the largest bullet. Why spend the drive time, gas, and ticket money when its going to land on a service I already pay for in like 1 or 2 months?
They come to streaming too fast!
The other thing that nobody talks about as to why movies are in trouble is tvs. Before 2016, nobody had a big tv screen. Now you can have a 60 inch tv that has great sound quality for $400 and it will feel like you are watching a movie at a theater in your home and it would’ve costed you hundreds of dollars less depending on how many movies you watch. I’ve seen it happen with my own parents.
Our childhood dreams were to create our own home theater experience... now that we can (I have a 75"), I have more patience to wait for my TV. Exception is Deadpool 3, gotta see that in theaters opening day (I got 4 tickets)
It’s always either “the movie industry is dying” or “*insert successful movie* saved the movies”…
So true
Once people get to a certain age they like to bitch about how apparently all good things in the world don’t exist anymore and all that exists is this “New age garbage that all these youngins created”
I agree with all the points made here but another one that’s personally affected me, as someone who has always loved to go to the movies, is the behaviour of general audiences these days - I can’t go to many movies without someone in the audience talking or being generally annoying in some way. It puts me off going as I know it will ruin the experience and would be better off waiting to watch it at home
Bad casting.
Bad stories.
Bad directing.
Internet and YT is killing it because if you don't go on opening week you'll get spoiled by "reviewers", memes, twitter, sites headlines. They even upload bts before movie release. And current trailers show 2/3rd of a movie. So yea if i know most of the plot, might as well wait 1 month for vod.
This too. Good point. There are several factors but this is a good one as well
I agree the reduced theatrical window is a major problem. I am old enough to remember when it took a year for a movie to come out on home media...in 1989 it was a huge deal that Batman, released in June, was available on home media by Christmas.
3 factors killing the movie industry:
1. Horrible leadership
2. Horrible writing
3. Prioritization of identity politics
Barbie, Spiderverse, Oppenheimer, Guardians 3, Poor Things and A24 show that politics don't tank the films as long as they're good. Mostly, people just rather wait for streaming.
@@thelastattempt666
That is very true. 👌
When I was a kid I would always go to the movies every weekend and would watch any movie that looked good.
Even if the movie was bad we had fun watching it.
John, they legally can't negotiate that early. Contract law stipulates how early you can begin (typically 90 days, but varies by industry). No one, as far as I know, can begin negotiations in good faith 18 months out
Then how did the directors do it? That's the whole point
@@projectgraham414 they didn't. Talks started May 10, 2023, and wrapped June 3rd, 2023. John's talking out his ass again
Funny - I would include reviewers like John as a reason movies are dying - If you want people to believe that a dumb move like Godzilla X Kong is worth watching you are setting up people for disappointment. My 15 year old son and I watched it at home and even he thought it was one of the dumbest things he has seen since Aquaman. Make better movies - they already suck.
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this is such a great video, not only for pointing out the facts, but for representing the passion and frustration that all of the movie fans have been feeling as of late.
that being said, you guys could probably go on for hours and hours if you really wanted to dive deep into all of the factors that are killing the theaters and movies as a whole. i think the overarching point of it all comes down to our lousy house of cards we call an economy where everything is just supposed to go up and up and up with no real plan for when things start to go down. do these movie studios really think that they’re just gonna get bigger and bigger budgets and see bigger profits when people simply do not have the money to spend? it’s all just so incredibly unsustainable. maybe a movie market crash will be a good thing and people will figure out how to create on smaller budgets or something, but that’s wishful thinking. it’s just the age we live in where people don’t have the money to go out and spend on experiences and don’t want to go out because they have the internet. clearly these mega budgets aren’t translating to better products either. a lot of these movies are just lame and repetitive and nonsensical, and leave you wondering why they spent an inconceivable amount of money to make it. can they course correct? maybe. but will they?
In the Uk, 2 Dolby tickets to see furiosa comes to £43 which is about $55
If AMC or others should partner with franchisees to be in their theaters, they get paid a rent fee it should work plus they don’t have to deal with any employees and it benefits them and consumers cause I don’t wanna eat non of that junk they sell, imagine they have a Starbucks in there, a dunking donuts and no on…
Ticket prices went up 18.5% since 2018 but overall inflation was 24.9% in the same time period. Ticket prices went down if you consider inflation. It's not about prices. It's that theaters are competing with endless online entertainment.
Too many ads before the movie, snacks way too high.
yes the advertisements are adding a lot of friction compared to home entertainment that's whyI only go toblockbuster or big ones
Sadly, food prices keep going up since less and less people go, and that's how theater stay open and running. They're punishing us that still go for all the people that stay-at-home streaming.
It’s frustrating that the theaters are lacking films to show due to the strikes, but an amazing film like Glenn Powell and Richard Linklater’s “Hit Man” was not given more than a very limited release in very few selected theaters…
That's because Netflix bought that film. They have almost NO respect for theatrical exhibition. They could care less. Screw Netflix for buying great films, and then drowning them.
Honest answer - no good content. People come to see good stuff, something like Dune 2 - most of the stuff getting brought forward lately is TRASH
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Remember the days when 21 jump street would make millions? It's sadly over
It's not just that the ticket prices are higher, but that the purchasing value of the dollar is lower compared to previous years.
@@Dakr2000 If the purchasing value of the dollar is lower, and the prices everywhere are higher, you need to decide where does your money go. When in 2018, you could pay your rent, food, etc with X amount of money, and still be able to go to the movies with little to no trouble, in 2024 you can only pay rent and food with the same amount (just an example). So, a night out in the movies is a luxury for many people today.
I think as fans we can be disconnected from the bigger picture 1. after covid people don't want to sit indoors when you can enjoy outside. 2. Pricing is much higher, people not willing to gamble on if a movie is good or not. 3. I would agree time. At home you watch just the movie. You're not sitting through 40 minutes of trailers and ads you've already seen online.
Sadly, there are things that are just not affordable to common people anymore in '24. Giant restaurant chains are dropping like flies because they aren't able to make a profit. I can see bowling and movie theaters a thing of the past pretty soon.
If you can't afford to go to the movies, that's pretty damn sad. Im a teacher, by no means rich at all. I will never not be able to afford a movie ticket with my salary. People can't possibly be that broke
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Would if I could afford it. :(
I think that studios need to do a better (and cheaper) job at marketing their movies. Not only do they not do a good enough job marketing them in general, but pretty much every studio has their own social media platforms and UA-cam channels now where they can post trailers, clips, posters etc. for LITERALLY NOTHING! It costs 0 dollars and 0 cents to post stuff to social media to try and get peoples attention. Hell, make some memes or shit and post those to get attention to the film.
COVID and everything it created socially and economically killed the theater industry and drastically altered movie watching habits. Disney and Warner both put A/B tier theatrical releases that cost massive amounts of money to make on $10-15 streaming platforms. Sony theatrical releases go straight to Netflix after a short theatrical run. Everyone got conditioned to getting those kind of titles while spending very little money. The convenience factor conditioned people that those titles will and should be watched at home.
I think the other issues are small contributing factors but clearly the 2019 and prior box office numbers cement this theory because ticket prices/concessions, film budgets were all very similar pre-pandemic. The 20% increase in things like live sports has largely been unaffected, where if economics/inflation were a factor they'd be suffering to a similar degree. NBA attendance for instance is going up despite rising costs.
My opinion as an Argentine cinephile: It's not just the ever increasing cost of movie tickets. Going to the movies used to be one of my favourite activities, but the combination of dim projections (hard to see anything in night scenes and everything looks muted otherwise), teens with smartphones and the new very luminous EXIT signs have soured all my recent experiences. I'll still go 3 or 4 times a year, to support a film I'm very interested in, like Dune or Furiosa, but everything else I'm watching at home.
People with smartphones are so annoying. I want yeet their phones across the room. Also people talking drives me insane. I saw the rerelease of Spider-Man 3 and this tool behind me kept talking about how bad the movie is. I was so angry I couldn’t focus.
Listen im a reasonable person. I get it im in a Spider-Man movie there’s gonna be kids. I don’t mind when kids are talking to each other and being loud cuz they are kids but when its a 30 something year old I see red.
I always buy my candy at dollar store and soda to sneak it in the theater all the time!! Never pay candy or soda at the movie!! 🤙👌
To This Day !!
I think another factor which plays into the whole release window point, is how streaming has ended up with a load of poorly educated “casual” watchers of movies that have learned the wrong lessons and habits.
The amount of times I hear people say “I’ll wait until it’s on Netflix” or “no point going to see it, it will be on Netflix soon” as if every single film goes straight to Netflix after a short run at the cinema…
I think there’s a large portion of people that genuinely don’t grasp distribution rights and think they get most releases on Netflix, unfortunately I know an awful lot of people like this and even see it on the comments sections online for things, it’s as if people just let Netflix spoon feed them.
I’ve even heard people say they’ll “wait until it’s on Netflix” about movies made by Disney owned studios or from Apple and Amazon distributed releases 🤦🏻♂️
With this in mind there’s some really big releases people are just completely missing because they’re assuming that they’ll get it on Netflix. It’s crazy.
It does my head in when I see articles about really crap films hitting number one on Netflix, or films that have been out years that never got the warranted attention in a proper cinema environment are suddenly only just being discovered because it just reminds me how many people are part of the problem. It really does make me fear for the future of movie releases when I’m hearing Madame Web is number one on Netflix and it’s most likely not just because people want to see how bad it is but because it’s fairly new and is being spoonfed to people that couldn’t care less
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I can only afford to go to the movies twice a year, so i have to choose which movies i think will be the biggest that year , this year im seeing Deadpool and Wolverine and Joker 2 😂
Jesus Christ leave it to John to refer to Charlie Day as the Pacific Rim guy
thanks you for this rant.
I think the whole movie experience needs to be revamped, theaters should offer more.
AMC prices are high to try and get you to sign up and pay for a Stubs subscription.
Lol, the A-List subscription is cheaper than the ticket he bought. The subscriptions are an incredible value for a single person. The problem with the subscriptions are they don't work for families. For instance, instead of 3 movies a week for $20/month, A-List could be 1 movie per week for 3 people. They won't do that because they know almost no one sees 3 movies a week. At my peak before the pandemic, I would do a double feature on Friday night; so I was seeing 8 movies a month for $20.
My first job was at a movie theatre back in the 90s. I can still remember being told that the theatre made all their operating costs in the ticket and concessions were pure profit. I wonder when things changed.
I worked at a theater. In college between 2008-10; about 70 percent or so of ticket dollars go to the distributor, so once you turn on the projector, the money is lost.
Different unions have different rules in regards to negotiation windows. And organizing meetings to have a demand set with a union that has over 10000 people probably isnt always easy to make quorum.
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I think the affordability of HD and UHD TVs is a major factor. My nice 48" HDTV only cost about $300-400 if memory serves. Granted it's incomparable to a high quality theater but it's still very good and much more convenient. Also, streaming is now different from VHS and DVDs in that it's available almost immediately. It's much easier and faster to post high-quality pirate copies online than a physical medium like DVDs. I doubt there's a way to close that Pandora's Box.
I think when I saw Titanic back in HE back in 97 it cost like 5 bucks tops for a ticket
One thing I've always said, these A list actors are waaaay over paid I don't care, This shit is getting ridiculous
I live in the suburbs outside Philly - just the basic 2D that I saw the releases in the 90's of at least Empire Strikes Back, Titanic, the Prequel trilogy, etc costs about 20 bucks unless you go at the 'off' times where it's closer to 17. And they've been cutting back how many showings are even in that format - If I went right now to see Furiosa for some insane reason - there is 1 actual traditional showing, all the rest are with recliners (which costs more), Screen X, RPX, IMAX, and 4DX - all of which cost even more. The last time I actually though about going to a theatre, over the course of an entire weekend, they had maybe 2 showings in standard old format with standard damn seating. 70+ dollars to take a date to the movies, I could take them to a nicer restaurant or any number of other things at that point over a movie that in 3 months I could rent from the library - for free - or buy for 20 bucks and get us whatever snacks to then sit and watch in the comfort of one of our homes with no interruptions that'll have us miss things and all.
I saw the last insidious movie in cinema and it was an awful experience. Had two teenage girls in the corner talking and on their phones. Ruined the whole experience. Funnily enough I haven't been to the cinema since
I love a fanboy ranting about the lack of things to buy
God forbid someone has a hobby they enjoy
@@ChildishGambeaner Watching movies is not a real hobby
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what they're describing kind of sounds like maybe people that were kind of got used to just seeing stuff at home by themselves and lost or forgot the socialization rules for the theater or something due to the pandemic. There's probably other factors like just plain not caring or something.
Netflix missed out on a huge opportunity to release many of their movies in theaters during the period where there isn't much content due to catching up from the strikes.
BS to concession. It costs 2 bucks to make popcorn and soda. Doesn't need 15 dollar profit
It's not really "profit" though. They have to give a substantial portion of ticket sales back to studios. They're also paying for the stock of the food and the cups, buckets, etc.
Also, think about the fixed costs of running a movie theater. 6-20 movie screens running all day, regardless of whether there are 0 people or 300 people in attendance. Thousands of lights. Projectors, Sound systems for every theater. A dozen registers for ticket and concession sales. Several restrooms. Employees every which way. Security, both in terms of personnel and for the building. Advertising. High powered HVAC systems have to work overtime to keep those places cool when you have that many things producing heat. Plus additional costs like sponsoring local events or organizations. Running those establishments is NOT cheap at all.
@@davidjames579 but if they didn't offer a supplementary product or service like a movie, then where's the customer's incentive to buy hyperinflated treats?
@@davidjames579 okay, but there IS somewhere else they'd go... the movies. Unless every single movie chain agreed to this bizarre business model, other theaters will exist and serve the same candy at the same rates.
There's also grocery store. The gas station. Other places that serve sweets, like Dairy Queen. All of which serve it for significantly cheaper. As long as it's all selling the same treats with the same brand name labels on it, there will always be equal or better alternatives than a shop that offers nothing beyond the expensive candy. Unless they made the candy themselves or somehow changed the branding, but those are two entirely different scenarios, and too hypothetical for this discussion.
@davidjames579 your comment doesn't make any sense.
It's pretty well documented that concessions are the primary source of a theater's revenue.
You said that I proved It's easier to buy candy from an outside source and bring it in, therefore theaters are lying about how they make their profits. But you skipped the entire middle portion of the argument where, you know... this needs to happen, to be proven. Yes, some people sneak in their snacks, but go to any movie theater on the weekends, especially for major releases, and concession lines are still filled.
@davidjames579 it doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense. The fact of the matter is that people do it.
Besides, where/how are you going to smuggle warm, fresh(ish) popcorn into a movie theater? What about your beverage? You might be able to bring a single refreshment in, but you won't be getting refills.
Again, it's the convenience factor. If you want that cheaper candy, that's an extra trip to Walgreens you gotta make on your way to the theaters. People are lazy, they don't want to do that.
Man I love going to movies since I was 7 in 1984. From then on I scratched up Pennie’s to pay that 2.50 at the time to see great 80;s movies. Then in 90’s waited outside in lines for Star Wars ep 1. Oh and the hype for batman, Indiana jones shit even crocodile Dundeee 2. Lost world had a line around the theatre to get in. Godzilla 98 we had beach balls going hella hyped for it then everyone shut up when it started. Transformers the movie being my Mecca, saw it 3 times. Nowadays still love going and getting my son to go now but yeah movies have no variety like before. Where’s the firm, fatal attraction, indecent proposal type movies with the blockbusters. White men can’t jump, boomerang, against all odds? It’s the same stuff now.
A large popcorn cost less than 1¢ for the theaters
I’m lucky I’m in the UK, my cinema a ticket is only like £6. Also my dad gets free tickets from his bank every year so that’s like 8 free cinema trips too.
£6 in the UK? I live in Chelsea, buddy! 😂
Bad writing.
Furiosa was great I heard, so there’s more then one problem.
Comparing worldwide prices, in the UK and for an Odeon IMAX evening viewing = it's at least £22 ($28) each, before food, travel, extras or whatever. For a family or a group of friends, you're looking at £100 just to watch a movie. We can go to Amsterdam or Paris for that price. I say IMAX upfront because we are literally banking on a winning movie (for this reason), so want to experience it in its best form, but surely that is what the directors and bosses want?? That's what they say, but the studios will have to suffer for the other movies due to pricing. I'd rather go every week and watch a 3.5/5 for few £ as it's sociable and fun, like in the 80s/90s. Every viewing was packed. So it's 2-3 cinema movies a year for us, that's all I can stomach financially. We don't buy it but a medium popcorn, as a measure of a cinema's rip-off percentage.... £5-6 = almost $7-8 per tub each x 4 = $30. People are sick of it so it's more of a quiet boycotting, but not everyone will tell you that.
I agree with your insight of the evaporating release window. I would also point out that there are movies that are going straight to streaming when they could have had a theatrical release, which could benefit the studios and theaters (which are essentials marekters for the studio's products) I would say the movie 'Roadhouse' is a good example of that, in my opinion. I'm not in the industry but think that this sudden change with day and date release, straight to streaming, and so on is hurting going to the theater.
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18.5% price increase in 6 years… less than inflation. Sooo… prices have dropped! So LESS pricing power is the problem
This list was made by a movie nerd. The true reason movies are dying is because the younger generation has almost no interest in movies. The movie industry was supported on the backs of the young going out on dates and spending the money at the theaters. The young generation has almost no interest in movies anymore. Just look at the stats. The older generations always slow going to the movies because they have lives and are too busy with life to go and just don’t want to shell out the money for the theater experience.
I honestly think that theaters will consolidate into a few big ones that will screen the big “experience” films like Marvel, Avatar and Star Wars, but the smaller films will more and more go to streaming and that will be what it will be. The movie industry as it was has ended and those last strikes gave the participants their last big contract. The budgets for most of these films will implode.
That's not really true though. Super Mario Bros, Barbie, Oppenheimer, Dune Pt 2, Guardians of the Galaxy 3, Top Gun: Maverick, Anyone But You. Young people DID go to the movies, and they likely did so multiple times given the enormous success of these films. And that's just recently. Let's not forget 2019 saw a record number of films exceed $1 Billion. Young people clearly ARE interested in movies. But when movies are no longer afforded proper theatrical windows, and are now routinely rushed to PVOD and streaming ... that has sadly inflicted severe harm on the movie business. These misguided practices by the studios have done all this damage. It's not a lack of interest, on the part of young people or moviegoers in general.
@@christopherbrown5023 Event movies attract a bigger audience. However.....the number of tickets sold is down by 33% since the early 2000's. The reason box office grosses look the same is because of higher ticket prices and the rise of premium screens. Teenagers and people in their 20's are a lot les likely to choose the movies as a date night than previous generations. Even children's animation movies by and large are seeing a huge drop on average than before. And sure you can pull exceptions, but the overall marketplace for children's movies are way down. Disney, Dreamworks, Illumination used churn out $100-$200 million dollar grossing movies as the minimum. Not anymore, and it is not a pandemic thing. Almost all the kids I know will watch UA-cam over any Disney movie or streaming show any day of the week. I almost have to beg my kids to watch movies with me. They say it is too long and boring. However if I ask them to watch Urban Rescue Ranch or Snake Discoveries they are totally down. I am not saying I am happy about people losing interest in movies, but I am saying it is a real thing.
Avoid overcharging AMC
Why would John show AMC prices and ignore how little A-List is? It's just the price of a single IMAX ticket. If I was more into low distribustion/indie movies, it'd end up being the price of going to the retired twilight screenings back in the 80s. Adjusted for inflation, the movies aren't expensive. Just freakin get dinner out beforehand and have real food before the screening. The popcorn and drink argument is pretty tired at that point. I haven't done the concessions since I was a teenager cuz it was always more than the price of the tickets.
EVERYONE DONT NEED ALIST..MAJORITY OF AMERICA GOES TO THE MOVIES 3 TO 5 TIMES A YEAR ONLY..ALIST IS GREAT FOR THE THEATERS BUT EVEN BETTER FOR FILM BUFFS..THEN IF YOUR THEATER HAS PARKING, THE GAS TO GET THERE AND SNACKS SO YEAH MOVIES ARE EXPENSIVE..ESPECIALLY IF THE MOVIES ARE STREAMING MATERIAL ONLY..
Let's not forget the movie experience with some people on their phones while watching a movie or talking too loudly or families with lots of loud children. No hate on the children it's just how children behave but it does still make the experience less enjoyable.
Streaming is killing movie theatres
As a current mail carrier you can still negotiate a year in advance and still not have a contract lol. Postal problems lol!
Is he conflating movie theaters and movie studios? Is it death by suicide for the movie theaters because they are accepting shorter release windows from the movie studios?
The steak example shows theaters are ripping patrons off
The strikes were definitely a factor because I felt like the theaters / movie industry were starting to make a comeback after the pandemic and then that happened.
We can't underestimate the mediocrity of superhero movie releases over the last few yrs as well, considering those used to be damn near guaranteed big money makers at the theaters. That was their bread and butter
To your 3rd point, streaming has spoiled us. Unlike VHS, DVD, Blu ray, etc day-in-date was introduced with streaming. Even though it didnt last too long, I still wonder what the lasting effect of that was. What's the point of releasing a movie in theater for 2 weeks?!
It's to expensive and there so many bootleg movie websites
Piracy is not the answer. Never was, and never will be. Period.
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Ive never understood the whole "over charging to pay the bills" strategy. I feel that ppl would be WAY more inclined to buy concessions if they were cheaper. I know i definitely would 🤷♂️
Exactly. It doesn't make sense. And everybody that does buy feels ripped off. Cut the price, and find the happy medium where you make some profit and the customer feels like they got a fair deal. They will make more in the end because way more people would buy, and the ones that do buy would be much happier about it. People are buying now; they're just buying it from the Wal-Mart accross the street before they come. The theater makes zero profit when that happens.
@@jordanparks6885 funny. Because where I live, there's a walmart and family dollar In the same plaza as the theater lol.
@@missnurse78 lol right?! Why would I buy candy for $5 at the theater when the same candy is within walking distance for $1? It's lunacy. The theater wants to "keep the lights on" with their gouging, but instead of a little profit they make nothing, and the people that do buy from them aren't happy about it
@@jordanparks6885 that's what is even weirder. There's not even a relative scarcity of snacks, so what value does a concession stand offer at a movie theater? None, when the prices are through the roof, and you can get cheap snacks next door!
That's what smart businesses do, yes.
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A single regular price ticket costs as much a basic streaming service for a month...
True.
A single premium ticket costs as much as a subscription to the theater chain. AMC A-List and Regal Unlimited are around the same price as 4K Netflix with no ads. My Netflix bill is $40/month because I have 2 sub accounts. My AMC A-List is only $21/month.
15 dollars for a movie ticket may seem steep, but at the end of the day, my guy..it's 15 dollars. If you can't afford a 15 dollar movie ticket, you're not just broke, you might be poor. There is a difference.
@@brianfreeman197 It's not being poor, but wise...I get more value, entertainment for my fifteen dollars. In my retirement.
I think John missed the mark on streaming. For years the studios have been trying to drive people to their streaming services to the detriment to their theater releases. Warner and Disney have both done this, putting stuff on streaming that they could have released. The pandemic pushed that farther, but the studios clearly wanted to do it.
That's really the only reason I stopped going to theaters personally. They land on streaming in like 1 or 2 months. I don't see the point in going to a theater to see it when it will be on a platform I already pay for.
That comes with the shortened window. Again that’s studios
I'm getting pissed off with the people that go to the cinema, talking through the film, on their phones, parents taking kids to films that are too mature for them, the kids then get bored. Often somebody annoys me when I go.
Seriously. Feel like it’s gotten worse over time.
Same here…
Theater costs are no joke. Remember when I was a kid in the 90’s, tickets were under 5 dollars and I would go to the movies 2-3 times a week. Now it’s just too expensive, and nearly every time I go there are disruptive people that ruin the experience for me. It’s just not worth it.
No lie was told on this video. John, you're so spot on
$30 for Popcorn and Soda... Yeah... you deserve to go out of business.
What keeps me from going to the theaters as much as I used to is the lack of theater etiquette from the inconsiderate movie-goers.
Also Movies are not as good as they used to be! terrible writing combined with lazy green screen cgi, unlikable characters, remakes and sequels that are worse than the originals, and finally preachy messaging that you don’t care about when watching a movie
Robert made a great point about the movie going experience. When you live in Hollywoodland, you have your pick of some truly great movie theaters to watch a film. The local theaters here are often abysmal. Beyond the usual annoyances (young children, people on phones, etc.), you have to deal with broken seats, smudges on the screen, poor audio, poor framing/masking (I remember watching Deadpool 2 in a 1.85 aspect ratio (it's a 2.39 movie). Why spend $15 a ticket + drink/popcorn when I can stay home and watch it on my 65" OLED with my home theater system, and in many ways have a better experience.
I remember seeing The Batman at the cinema and a coca cola stain was splattered across the centre of the screen. It was like that before I went in, and the cinema had just left it there. If their regard for their customers is so low, why should I support them.
I think movie quality ties back to the price. If I go to a move and spend 50$ and it was a good movie that was 50$ well spent. If I disliked the movie then that was 50$ flushed down the toilet. That's why I only go to a theater when I "know" I will like the film. I don't take chances on things I "might" like.
4. Streaming u get movie quality shows/ movies now
5. People not having movie theatre etiquette
Some guy would not shut up during a reissue of Jurassic Park some few months ago. And he WAS NOT whispering. Which is just stupid, along with those “clueless” people who turn on their phone, blast phone notifications, or even turning on a phone flashlight. Just, stop it
Yeah I can’t go anymore because I hate people. Was watching Spider-Man 3 rerelease and some knob kept talking throughout the movie about how bad it was. Bunch of people on their phones.
You speak of going to the movies as a cheap date night, but not when children are involved. Me, my wife and daughter will need to spend close to $100 for movie tickets and drinks…..not to mention any snacks. Not worth it for any family’s sake.
Bro, I have a family of 7, 5 kids, and my wife and I totally agree with you. Shit is out of control.
That’s why we got to $5 Thursday
I take my niece 13yo ro the movies all the time. If we buy everything there it's about 55 bucks. We now stop at the dollar store to buy her sna KS and I got the souvenir bucket of popcorn lol. We down to about 40 bucks
I hate to sound rude but that sounds about right. You’re seeing a feature film presentation with state of the art & sound & visuals w/ food & drinks for at least 4 people. It’s a high price for sure, but thems the breaks for entertainment.
Why not go out to eat before the movies? That’s what I do and it works for me. Still, these prices gotta chill the F out.
I just did this with Dune: Part Two, where it came on Apple TV at like $30. Heck yes! My subwoofer shook the room. Totally epic experience from my living room and i probably saved like $40 by not having to do all the concessions and childcare. I'd rather put my kids to bed and watch the movie in my living room on a high quality sound system and TV than spend $50+ on tickets, $20+ on concessions and lord knows how much on a babysitter just to watch a stupid rom com or something.
I never buy concessions lol. The only reason why I would eat in a movie theatre is if I didn't have the time to eat before going, in which case I'd be looking for a meal, not snacks, which the movie theatre doesn't sell.
Some movie theaters do have meals. In any case, regarding your main point, I would have agreed with you 5 years ago. But half of the movie theaters near me have closed down since then, so I'm going to support the remaining ones (through concessions).
15$ ticket $23 concession
The #1 reason I hardly go to the theatre is because 99% of the movies being released I have no interest in seeing or i'll just wait until they are streamed. I'm just not interested in a million movies from the marvel universe, endless superhero movie sequels and overused crap CGI. If the studios could consistently release original movies on the level of Dune, Oppenheimer or Parasite I would be going to the theatres regularly.
Hundreds of movies are released in a year. Only like 8-10 of those are big CGI action/superhero films
@@wallyjackson9543 I should mention its not only about the CGI superhero films but also the fact that the majority of movies Hollywood releases are just not very good, maybe I'm picky
$10.79 USD coverts to $16.79 Australian. A stock standard adult cinema ticket at a chain cinema (event cinemas) is currently $30.00. You guys have it good in comparison to us.
Age and streaming services. The only people that hold an importance of a trip to the movies are the people who grew up with it. Or whose parents grew up with it. EDIT: it wasn’t clear, so I wasn’t saying I don’t hold it of importance. It’s the most important thing I do outside of my home. But I haven’t been since Barbie. New baby. I was also saying I’m old enough that it’s reasonable why it’s important to me to I’m 37
facts. it's just not true anymore that a theater is the better experience. john cant seem to grasp it.
I went to the cinema once a week as a teenager. It was something that you could do on a whim, but now I go maybe twice a year (if that). I'd rather wait until I can watch it at home.
I’m at a point now days that I ask myself should I pay over $50 to go see furiosa in theaters with my family or should I just preorder the movie in Apple iTunes for $29 and I can own it..most movies are coming out on digital in less than 2-3 months..🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I never eat at the movie theatre. So unhealthy
I loved the anger and passion John had related to the Strike subject. HE is totally right about that, why on earth would you begin your new negotiations only a FEW WEEKS before the old contracts were up. Just a total lack of management and coordination while bordering on the edge of negligent actions
Take that $300m, divide it by 5, and make five $60m films and have a better chance of a hit.
I mean, VHS and DVDs are adjacent to the movie theather business. The reality not talked in here is all the competition this industry has: UA-cam, Videogames, TikToks and so and so.
Some people will rather watch an 3 hour essay about X topic than watch the Fellowship of the ring.
Sorry, it is our reality. Unless is a "Mario" or "Barbie", this industry is on a decline
If that was true, then why are sports games still selling out? Music Concert Tickets are ridiculously expensive, and yet people are still flocking to see their favorite Pop Star or Boy/Girl Band singing and dancing on stage. Why is Live Entertainment thriving, while the Movies are starving to the death ?
@@deltablueprint3186 well. Those are different businesses. I mean, you just added to my list of" things people rather do than go to the theater" . Sports events and Live concerts are really popular indeed.
@@deltablueprint3186 Given the limited budget most people have, they prefer to see concerts and not go see movies.
I'm not going to pretend I understand every nuance of late-stage Hollywood, but one factor is undeniable. Hollywood is a hive of greed, where too many people (especially at the executive level) are just in it for money and personal gain. They don't give a shit about creative storytelling or the art of filmmaking.
When people like that infest an industry while displacing true creatives, one way or the other its a race to the bottom, with death being the final destination. From a broad macro perspective, that's a big part of why Hollywood is now collapsing.
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Shareholder greed is killing many industries from the inside. It's like they're hording every penny for when the board is flipped as if numbers on a screen will save them.
I used to see 200 movies a year in theaters. This year I've seen 2 (Dune and The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare). The simple answer is there isn't product I'm interested in anymore. Studios just keep putting out the same crap. I don't even care to go see Marvel movies anymore. That and seeing a bunch of writers and actors cry over making more money than 90% of Americans will ever dream of has mostly killed my interest in the industry.
So all the money made by the films should be handed over to the money men & mega corporations instead of the artists who made them?
@@SharpCinemadude that's not the point The point we're making is artists actors and athletes keep asking for more money and it's driving up prices and they make more money in one movie or game then we'll make it in a lifetime
I dont think there's a future for the industry at all, just look at the bootleg movie and offbrand bad animation industry, it's gonna be like that in a few years, it doesn't even matter, let people make their own movies instead of those soulless corporate oligopolies, they're not fit to make anything anymore