Seiyunchin Bunkai: Basic and Advanced for Goju Ryu

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
  • We are starting weekly online karate classes from the 3rd of August 2024: email dojo@grkc1978.com to get added to the sign-up list. Seiyunchin: the fourth kata in our syllbus with an abundant number of bunkai. Ché Jagger goes through the basic, intermediate and advanced versions of Seiyunchin bunkai, as well as offers insight into why certain grabs and attacks exist.
    As you can see, Brian is still fine.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    02:48 - Basic bunkai (quick run through)
    03:17 - Basic bunkai 1
    03:34 - Basic bunkai 2
    03:49 - Basic bunkai 3
    04:02 - Basic bunkai 4
    04:07- Basic bunkai 5
    04:19 - Basic bunkai 6
    04:24 - Basic bunkai 7
    04:34 - Basic bunkai 8
    04:52 - Basic bunkai 9
    05:04- Intermediate bunkai
    06:05 - Intermediate bunkai 1
    06:33 - Intermediate bunkai 2
    06:46 - Intermediate bunkai 3
    06:53 - Intermediate bunkai 4
    07:02 - Intermediate bunkai 5
    07:11 - Intermediate bunkai 6
    07:19 - Intermediate bunkai 7
    07:27- Intermediate bunkai 8
    07:34 - Intermediate bunkai 9
    07:46 - Intermediate bunkai 10
    07:43- Intermediate bunkai 11
    08:02 - The influences on Ché's bunkai
    09:21 - Advanced Seiyunchin bunkai
    09:40 - Opening move - yame uke (mountain block) and morote uke
    13:24 - Hike uke, pullback, nukite
    14:30 - Seiken punch, elbow strike
    18:21 - Supported chest block, shikodachi, gedan barai
    19:40 - Double open hand block (shoulder wheel throw)
    20:37 - Augumented elbow strike and sweep
    24:06 - Uppercut
    27:25 - Double elbow strike in cat stance
    29:43 - Ending move
    33:48 - Final thoughts
    Links:
    Basic Seiyunchin bunkai: • Basic Seiyunchin Bunka...
    Advanced Seiyunchin bunkai: • Goju Ryu Seiyunchin Bu...
    Geki Sai Dai Ichi bunkai: • Advanced Geki Sai Dai ...
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  • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
    @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +6

    Hope the sound comes out fine this week!
    Let us know in the comments below if there's a topic you would like us to cover 🙇‍♀🙇

  • @mh12bk988
    @mh12bk988 Місяць тому +1

    I love the way you demonstrate and explain both simple and advanced bunkai. Lot to learn from your videos. Domo arigato gozaimasu! 🙏🏽

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  Місяць тому

      So nice of you to say so! There's plenty of delightful bunkai to enjoy in Goju Ryu 🙏🏻 thank you for taking the time to watch and comment 🤗

  • @terrysanders2817
    @terrysanders2817 2 роки тому +5

    A bunkai banquet [pardon the alliteration]! A great way to spend 38 minutes. Arigato Sensei!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      You are always so welcome, Sensei Terry! You'll see we're taking a break from bunkai this week, but we'll probably be dishing up more sooner rather than later :)

  • @Burvedys
    @Burvedys 2 роки тому +8

    I must resist to comment on seiyunchin. Last time I argued with Iain Abernethy about Goju-ryu being more grappling than striking art (just because of kata like seiyunchin), I've got Chinese bat-eaters virus (that forced me to practice tensho in hospital to recover promptly but that's another story). So I have PTSD now and I need to watch with some single malt to comfort me (it's good Brian survived again so cheers to Brian).

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +3

      Ché says he'll drink a single malt to you - both to celebrate your recovery with the power of Tensho and for arguing with Iain 🤣🤣

    • @Burvedys
      @Burvedys 2 роки тому

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre Cheers! (where the root is Che+ers)

    • @squashcourtdojo
      @squashcourtdojo Рік тому +2

      Totally agree with you: I've come around the long way (35 years now) to see Goju as predominantly grappling, and seyunchin is a core component in this system (=countergrappling techniques all the way!)

    • @theflamingone8729
      @theflamingone8729 9 місяців тому +1

      I was watching one of my bjj friends demonstrate a lapel choke and he might as well have been doing Tensho, it was move for move.
      I hope you're over the Kung Flu, it sapped me for a couple of months.

    • @theflamingone8729
      @theflamingone8729 9 місяців тому

      ​@@squashcourtdojo we train in a squash court too. Nice sprung floor, air conditioning (kind of), and beers afterwards.
      Suits our casual needs too, when there's not enough of us to pay for a court we'll go to a park.

  • @dysonsphere
    @dysonsphere 9 місяців тому +1

    This is a hell of a lot more detail and length than any of us deserve. Lots of good application here. Thank you.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  9 місяців тому

      There is never too much detail :3
      Thank you for this truly lovely comment - as I work through my comment backlog, it is nice to see a name become more regular!
      Hope to hear from you more,
      Zoë

  • @hughmccabe3587
    @hughmccabe3587 Рік тому +2

    Nice job again. It’s great that you have such deference to your viewers’ own Senseis. Also, good physical demos and you aren’t kicking living daylights out of partners. Others doing videos where they unnecessarily beat up static demo partners.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  Рік тому +1

      It's like Sensei Funakoshi wrote - karate begins and ends with respect :) our deshi works hard, but we also want him to enjoy a long karate career, and it would set a terrible example if we taught like thugs. Thank you so much for your lovely comment, Hugh! We really appreciate it :)

  • @KarateUnity
    @KarateUnity 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the mention brother. Great video! Keep training hard. Hopefully we can meet one day.

  • @squashcourtdojo
    @squashcourtdojo Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this and your other videos! Great goju ryu content, nicely presented and very well discussed. Came across your channel only a few days ago and have binge watched a lot of the videos already!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  Рік тому

      Glad that you found us!
      Appreciate the comments and input already
      Che

  • @virdeegojuryukarate6
    @virdeegojuryukarate6 Рік тому +1

    Amazing video and explanations. Love the transition from basic to advanced oyo. I also love your awareness and appreciation of the differences between different lineages, which adds to your open-minded approach. Thank you, Ché Sensei.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much for this lovely comment! Truly Seiyunchin is a wonderful kata with a treasure chest of bunkai within it. Thank you for the kind words, and taking the time to watch and comment 🙇🏻‍♀️

  • @barbarba7
    @barbarba7 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Sensei and Deshi. Great work.... Was a good watch and nice to see all the ways that can be done...... As always Sensei Zoë... Great job... 🥰😘🤩

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +1

      Your new kata for homework! Thank you for the kind words ❤️

  • @ruhe0039
    @ruhe0039 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the clear explanation, very inspiring 🙏

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much for the kind words, Bert! We are so glad you took the time to watch and comment :)

  • @danielehrhardt5504
    @danielehrhardt5504 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks again for another great video covering the close range applications with all the possible throws.
    Being a smaller person myself, I like Che's approach to this kata and learn something new every time.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      I don't know about Germany, but in South Africa for a long time, Goju Ryu (and karate in general) was dominated by tall, strong men, who turned karate into a big man's sport with more reach and range involved than originally intended. It's only now that this is fading, (especially as more women become instructors and students) and we return to the roots of a style that was created by shorter people, designed for close range and technique, rather than brute force. (Of course, this is just my opinion as a thirty-something woman, and open to discussion).
      Thank you so much for the lovely comment - always nice to see your name pop up 🙇🏻‍♀️

    • @danielehrhardt5504
      @danielehrhardt5504 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@GojuRyuKarateCentre
      Being part of this community makes me feel to be in the right place.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +1

      We are honoured to have you here! And if you ever want to email us, please do at dojo@grkc1978.com 🌻

  • @theflamingone8729
    @theflamingone8729 9 місяців тому +1

    "There's a lot of chudan"
    From E.D. and Police reports, a left handed clothing grab followed by a right overhand punch is the second most common attack.
    I've been easing our dojo into practising those chudan punches as grabs by the Uke for our self defenses.
    I thought of it years ago, with the kids classes. Get them.to deal with that grabbing hand/arm and run, forget about the rest of the combination when you're a 3 foot tall child and he's an adult.
    Nice bunkai by the way, I'm enjoying and learning from you.
    Osu

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  7 місяців тому +1

      This is such an insightful and generous comment - we love to receive such information from our commentators!
      It definitely is such a common attack - it doesn't help that it is in nearly every fight scene on TV/movies as well 🙄
      Your kids have an awesome Sensei 👌

  • @chejagger1
    @chejagger1 2 роки тому +5

    Ohh
    Working without issues

  • @Tamales21
    @Tamales21 2 роки тому +3

    The founders of Karate took a foreign art and made it their own. They seemed to be concerned with effectiveness. To borrow a phrase..I do not follow the exact path of these men but I seek what they sought.
    Great video Sensei! The commercial was hilarious.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      I've always loved that phrase - blindly following those before us leads to no new paths in karate!
      Thank you for the kind words :)

  • @rolandoisidroturrubiartes16
    @rolandoisidroturrubiartes16 6 місяців тому +2

    Gracias por compartir. Thankyou Sensei!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  4 місяці тому

      Hai! Dou itashimashte - it is our great honour to be able to share what we know with you :)

  • @matthews1082
    @matthews1082 2 роки тому +2

    Hahaha, I was going to say that your kiddy phase Bunkai looks really familiar. Great video that looks at a Kata's Bunkai in some depth!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      Sensei Higaonna's contributions to karate truly can be seen across decades and countries!

  • @johnnyinL
    @johnnyinL 2 роки тому +2

    Really appreciate che sensei bunkai teaching! As a learner of japan goju ryu karate, I really learn a lot from your video!
    The bunkai some are similar to ours, some really broaden my sight!
    And thank you Brian for being a demonstration to be flown again and again! Also, thank you the video editor a great work you did here!
    if it is possible, I would love to learn some foot works and uses of kata to counter hook punch! thank you again!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for this lovely comment! We are so happy to add to people's knowledge - we believe that we can learn much, rather than obsessing over one stream of knowledge, or way of doing things. I'm so glad you enjoy the editing, I really enjoy doing it :)
      Please check out these videos on footwork and kata applications:
      ua-cam.com/video/yOkrtMS4oUM/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/JmUEFt7KdQ8/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/W2aW0QMwxp0/v-deo.html
      We have scheduled a video on Taisakabi and general movement - please watch this space :)

    • @johnnyinL
      @johnnyinL 2 роки тому +1

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre appreciate it! looking forward for more lession :D

  • @lesbubka
    @lesbubka 2 роки тому +3

    Great stuff, thank you for mention :)

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! We must definitely do another discussion, I have much to learn from you 🙇🏻‍♀️
      - Zoë

    • @lesbubka
      @lesbubka 2 роки тому

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre always happy to chat :)

  • @daddydhensTV
    @daddydhensTV 2 роки тому +2

    This is amazing Sir...

  • @tombob641
    @tombob641 2 роки тому +3

    The best as always

  • @ShoshinMartialArts
    @ShoshinMartialArts Рік тому

    Great explanation, thanks for sharing your knowledge about karate 🙏

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  11 місяців тому

      My pleasure! Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment, we always appreciate it :)

  • @eyescat1082
    @eyescat1082 2 роки тому +2

    Excelente video, una de las mejores interpretaciones que he visto sobre la aplicación de este kata (Seiyenchi), gracias por compartir este video, muchas gracias. (1/4 - abril-/2022).

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      ¡Eres tan bienvenido! Gracias por las amables palabras, realmente las apreciamos.
      Hemos hecho una serie de videos sobre Seiyunchin si está buscando más sobre este hermoso kata.
      ¡Te deseo una excelente salud para tu viaje de karate!

    • @eyescat1082
      @eyescat1082 2 роки тому

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre muchas gracias por responder mi mensaje quería hacer una sugerencia : de ser posible podrían por favor poner a disposición los videos de su canal con subtitulos en español?? Se les agradecerá mucho de parte de la comunidad latinoamericana que sigue los videos de su canal. "Domo Arigato" (8/4/2022. - abril-)

  • @siriusbontea
    @siriusbontea 2 роки тому +2

    “Black Cat Peanut Butter!” I would totally buy some if they had it here in the US. 😂
    These bunkai videos are awesome and they answer the age old question of “why do we need to do katas?”

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      Black Cat is part of every South African childhood - they did a lot of campaigns and it just is one of those things that even the ex-pats miss when they go overseas! I personally prefer extra-crunchy myself.
      We hope to re-do all the bunkai videos we made pre-mic days and to make sure we keep digging up the gems hidden in our kata. Always a delight to hear from you, Sirius!

  • @javiermejia8493
    @javiermejia8493 Рік тому +1

    Domo Arigato Sensei Ché

  • @blackreddemon666
    @blackreddemon666 2 роки тому +2

    Goju Ryu is a very practical Karate Style. Thanks for huge work about the presentation of this style.
    Question: What have I to do when a opponent hugs me from the front side ?

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +1

      Great question, Konrad!
      If their arms are over yours, you can always lift your arms up like a zombie to make space, then in that small space you can work with either front or side punches. Of course, your knee might still be able to strike the groin (if they don't think of it first.)
      Stomping on the top of the foot also creates a fair amount of pain to distract them. Depending on the surface around you and the number of opponents, you can do a foot sweep and knock them onto their back, but risky.
      And, our old classic - if you can reach down and grab the testicles and twist, that normally creates enough incapacitating pain for them to let go.
      Thank you for the kind words - it's nice to see our hard work being appreciated and noticed on the channel :)

  • @julianroninbb
    @julianroninbb Рік тому +1

    Love your videos!
    One thing though that I have always found strange in application of this Kata is the assited punch at around 17:40.
    I have noticed that from studying many Chinese arts that the "assisted hand" is more for blocking / defleting an incoming strike whilst simultaneously punching.
    I do wonder sometimes if that was the original intention & it got lost in translation over time. As I personally feel the way it's applied nowadays would break one's hand & that it doesn't really add any extra force at all.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  Рік тому

      Absolutely something could get lost in translation - Seiyunchin is very old, and has travelled far and across many minds. And since one of the 'rules' of bunkai is that touching your own body in kata implies grabbing/touching your opponent, it could be a deflection followed by a punch (lightning and thunder!)
      Mostly, we try not to stick too much to the dogma - there's the bunkai we do for grading, and the bunkai we uncover and enjoy :D

    • @chrishepler3107
      @chrishepler3107 10 місяців тому

      I agree, usually when a classical form uses two hands at once, it is not to stop just one arm of the opponent. That'd be putting the tori at a disadvantage. There's so much simultaneous blocking and striking in goju-ryu that two hands together usually means the opponent should be incapacitated by a lock or something similar.
      On a related note, I think Seiyunchin's final two moves are meant to be practiced on two opponents at once. I posted this on another bunkai video, but I thought I'd reiterate it here for visibility. Try it with an opponent with a double-handed grip on each arm. The forward movement that brings the arms up breaks their balance for the following drop back into neko-ashi-dachi, and the wide circle of the arms will actually throw the ukes if they maintain their grips. A competent fighter might let go to avoid being thrown (in which case, great, hit them and/or run), but if they maintain a death grip, the motion will actually bring the hands down to knock the two uke's heads together. This is so efficient I'm convinced it's the actual bunkai for the move, more or less lost to all the goju-ryu practicioners I've seen on UA-cam.

  • @jonasjpm1989
    @jonasjpm1989 2 роки тому +2

    👍👏💪

  • @dmfaccount1272
    @dmfaccount1272 2 роки тому +2

    Do you think each kata is a style or specific way of fighting in itself or are the katas meant to be combined to make a useful fighting style.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +1

      Great question!
      So the prevailing story is that Sensei Miyagi would only teach a student Sanchin and Tensho, then maybe one or two kata that would suit their body type and personality. The idea is that each kata can be an entire fighting system (they all have throws, chokes etc, though not all of them have kicks) and that when practiced enough and studied in depth, each one has enough answers.
      However: this also led to the loss of much information because no one student knew all the kata, and all of it had to be cobbled together after Miyagi died. And considering that students died in the Second World War, even more was lost.
      My theory is that it helps to know a wide variety of kata, and to take moves that work well for one, and then drill those. Goju Ryu may have "only" 12 kata compared to say, Shotokan's 30+ kata, but each kata is so detailed that it could take a lifetime of study to master them all, or most of them.
      The beauty of Geki 1 and 2, even though they are younger kata and considered kids' kata, is that they offer very effective and easy to learn techniques that will be honed from the very start of a karate career. If you've been training a while, you've done those kata thousands of times. That will be the muscle memory that comes forward in a fight.
      Hope this helps! Much of karate is taking what works for you, and leaving the rest. I am not a natural born kicker, but Ché is, and we have different abilities, ranges and speeds that can be drawn from different parts of the kata. Over time and with much sparring, you will know who you are too.
      Have an awesome weekend :)
      Best,
      Zoe

    • @sinjofin1
      @sinjofin1 2 роки тому

      Kata from Yuishinkai perspexctive is to remember The Techniques and their use in a combat situation with three modalities, stop an non Iintentional agressor, like a drunk, the next would to disable and stop The agresor, the last would Be for survival so out the agressor down.

  • @adamschannel8685
    @adamschannel8685 2 роки тому +2

    I have my first grading on Saturday (in 4 days) At the end of the lesson we say the 5 (I think it’s 5) values of goju ryu. I can’t find them online. Can you please comment them.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      Hello! Sorry we've taken so long to respond! We have done a video on the dojo kun: ua-cam.com/video/Zeomj8Us1kM/v-deo.html
      Every federation has their own though - ours is 8 lines long. Check with your sensei to make sure these are right.
      Good luck for your grading! Let us know how it goes :)

    • @adamschannel8685
      @adamschannel8685 2 роки тому +1

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre hey I think I passed my grading 😊 I’ll find out in two weeks after holidays. I was nervous pretty much the whole time. We did the taikyoko jodan kata and a few kicks and punches I forgot those names though mi Geri and some others I think. But overall it was a great time and experience 😊. Also yep I have the dojo kun for our dojo. I do goju kai, which I think is very very similar to goju ryu with a few differences. We still have chojun miyagi as a picture on our wall as well as Gogen Yamaguchi

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      Ah, the important thing is that it was a great experience!
      Yes, Goju Kai shares much with Goju Ryu, with some small signature differences in the kata. Yamaguchi Sensei is a fascinating figure, and his contribution to karate continues today across the world.
      We don't have Taiyoko kata as part of our syllabus, but overall many of the same principles are shared between the two schools.
      Always delightful to hear from others who do our beautiful art 🙏

  • @sinjofin1
    @sinjofin1 2 роки тому +2

    Only one comment, Brian keeps his share aram selacak To The side not a Real Combat situations perhaps have him keep it is a Guardsmen position.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому

      Definitely for combat, his position is not accurate, but here he's helping with demonstration. Hopefully we'll be able to record him fighting properly some day! Thank you for the feedback 🙏

  • @PleaseE777vidmax
    @PleaseE777vidmax 7 місяців тому +1

    I love how you use the fist instead of the spear hand ✋️ 😅. Tho I do hope I condition my finger tips to spear someone in the kidneys if need be. One day. 😂
    Thanx for the vid.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  7 місяців тому +1

      Haha, Ché and I have mentioned in a couple of videos that we don't do the hardcore conditioning because we need our hands to work (him as a chimney sweep, me as a knowledge worker and both of us for teaching) but power to those who take the time to do the hardcore conditioning!
      Thank you so much for watching 👀

  • @69marcelley
    @69marcelley 4 місяці тому +1

    Where are you based Sensei? I would love to train with you a few times!

  • @markfisher2683
    @markfisher2683 2 роки тому +2

    LOL- "proof of life"🤣🤣

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 роки тому +2

      We actually freeze Brian in his cryogenic cell every night after we close the dojo to extend his life 🤣

    • @markfisher2683
      @markfisher2683 2 роки тому +1

      All kidding aside ( especially today- does SA “recognize” April Fool’s Day? Maybe not🤡😜), Brian seems to have come into his own quite impressively- pretty fearless ( at least on the outside;)! Well done- good break falling! Have a great weekend- and I’ll most likely comment more on the excellent content of this video soon…. I’ve got “ questions “;)- Ciao!