Prior to using draw reins, the horse must be known to be free from any issues with health, teeth, and tack. The VERY experienced & knowledgeable rider, who has expert ability with technical awareness of hands, might employ them to assist a young or poorly trained horse to initially understand basic head and neck placement. In this case, the normal snaffle rein is used primarily, and the draw rein used SKILFULLY and as required, being 'on' ('asking' the horse) only momentarily. The horse must ALWAYS be ridden evenly forward 'in front of the riders leg' into the normal snaffle rein contact. In this video the draw reins appear to be incorrectly placed through the bit: To be correct they should go from riders hands, to OUTSIDE of bit, thru to inside. They should go thru at bit ring below (nearer the ground than) the normal snaffle rein. Placement between horses legs at girth is most severe. They are slightly less severe and have a more independent action when attached to each SIDE of the girth. Better draw reins have a rope insert which slides easily through the bit. The horse should 'understand' within a VERY short timeframe (in only a few, very short repeated sessions). Then the draw reins may be discarded.
Draw reins are often abused by inexperienced riders to "get the head in" but they can be an great tool when in the right hands and the horse is ready.They are to be used lightly to give the horse guidance more than anything for short periods of time. They are not to drag the head in, but through LIGHT use of the draw reins they can help maintain the frame and lift the back. but yes if you apply pressure and not use your legs and seat as one, this is what you will get.
I saw Pippa Funnell using them at Royal Windsor Show last week, one of the worlds best eventing riders....... In the wrong hands they dangerous, in the right hands can be very affective.
draw reins are ok when used properly. we use them sometimes with my horse to help her carry a little more because she is used to carrying herself in a driving-frame. it makes it alot easier for me to help develop her muscles for dressage. my coach is a grand prix rider and on the canadian team, she even uses draw reins for training every now and then.
1- The draw reins are weaved through the bit the wrong way 2-Is it just me, or does she purposely give the horse a 'subtle' pull to get it to misbehave, right on queue?
I dont see a problem with draw reins, as long as they are used correctly, and when the horse is ready, there is no problem with the use of draw reins. this horse above obviously isnt ready
Bev Brady sounds like a fat lady that does ground training for 2 years telling the horse what a good little boy he is , only to find out you've now got a spoiled pet that rides you. Sound about right?
Just to tell you this, some horses use them as a little aid if they fling there head, and this is to stop the horse from doing that, they are not just for what she has said. I sometimes use them so no they are not just used for that.
never used them, as I never had to, but I am considering now... well. still debating between them and chambon. want to try both and see. Yes, I saw horse being literally abused in draw reins and no, I didn't stay quiet about it, so I am well aware of potential "danger". just like I do not agree with standing martingale but still can be a useful tool in teaching (no do not use it at shows and only used it maybe 5-6 times total for training)
a girl I know jumps in them and it's horrific to watch because the horse can't stretch out properly over the jump. She basically told me where to go for saying it was cruel, but she will be the one crying when her horse has injuries from jumping restricted.
Well Mclain Ward and many other showjumpers use them, and also over small jumps so the horse learns how to balance itself, Mclain Ward won at the World Equestrian Games this year so I'd say he knows what he is talking about. They can be abused, but they are not just for getting the horse to hold it's head in, there are many subtleties in training for jumping which you maybe don't understand fully.
get the hindquarters activiated correctly and the draw rein is then un-needed as the head comes into position automatically. bringing the head in does not allow the horse to carry more weight on its hindquarters which is the aim of dressage!
All of you who are commenting "They're okay when the horse is ready." please define 'ready'? What is the prerequisite for draw reins being needed or helpful ever? Far out.
I disagree with this video. I do use draw reins at the beginning of my rides when practicing dressage. She has a lovely frame, but will try to evade the bit by throwing her head up as a reflex because the last girl who rode her yanked on her mouth. If I put the draw reins on for 10 min at the beginning of my ride while warming up and them take them up, she does not fight me at all the rest of the ride.
I don't mind them, but only occasionally and by experienced people... don't think they should be used every single time they are worked, otherwise horse and rider depend on them, and just encourages a false outline. Don't agree with jumping in draw reins though!!
well, not impressed here. draw reins should feed from the inside to the outside to the rider's hand. Abruptly grabbing this horse from a stand still is extreme, although that may be what some folks would do. But it isn't really a useful way to show what can be accomplished with draw reins.
If you need to use draw reins to get your horse "on the bit" you might need to take up push bike riding! Draw reins are for lazy cheaters who have no idea of correct training principles. Outside rein inside leg!!!
Uh wow, this person obviously knows nothing about headset, collection, or framing up if she says draw reins are not useful.....typical. Naturally in English, they're not practical (or rarely used, as they're more of a western training aid)..so im not surprised shes giving them a bad name. A calm horse will react to draw reins correctly, obviously this mare isn't ready for them and needs more ground work and sacking out. If not abused, Draw reins are a great tool.
Prior to using draw reins, the horse must be known to be free from any issues with health, teeth, and tack. The VERY experienced & knowledgeable rider, who has expert ability with technical awareness of hands, might employ them to assist a young or poorly trained horse to initially understand basic head and neck placement. In this case, the normal snaffle rein is used primarily, and the draw rein used SKILFULLY and as required, being 'on' ('asking' the horse) only momentarily. The horse must ALWAYS be ridden evenly forward 'in front of the riders leg' into the normal snaffle rein contact. In this video the draw reins appear to be incorrectly placed through the bit: To be correct they should go from riders hands, to OUTSIDE of bit, thru to inside. They should go thru at bit ring below (nearer the ground than) the normal snaffle rein. Placement between horses legs at girth is most severe. They are slightly less severe and have a more independent action when attached to each SIDE of the girth. Better draw reins have a rope insert which slides easily through the bit. The horse should 'understand' within a VERY short timeframe (in only a few, very short repeated sessions). Then the draw reins may be discarded.
Draw reins are often abused by inexperienced riders to "get the head in" but they can be an great tool when in the right hands and the horse is ready.They are to be used lightly to give the horse guidance more than anything for short periods of time. They are not to drag the head in, but through LIGHT use of the draw reins they can help maintain the frame and lift the back. but yes if you apply pressure and not use your legs and seat as one, this is what you will get.
I saw Pippa Funnell using them at Royal Windsor Show last week, one of the worlds best eventing riders....... In the wrong hands they dangerous, in the right hands can be very affective.
Good for you! Straight to the point x
draw reins are ok when used properly. we use them sometimes with my horse to help her carry a little more because she is used to carrying herself in a driving-frame. it makes it alot easier for me to help develop her muscles for dressage. my coach is a grand prix rider and on the canadian team, she even uses draw reins for training every now and then.
i sometimes train my horse with draw reins, but the most of the time without them. they are ok if u can use them.
Thank you. I only wish more trainers thought this way and more riders listened
draw reins are fine if you use them mildly and the horse is ready. there fine for frame and collection if the horse is ready
1- The draw reins are weaved through the bit the wrong way
2-Is it just me, or does she purposely give the horse a 'subtle' pull to get it to misbehave, right on queue?
S Ashe I so agree
I dont see a problem with draw reins, as long as they are used correctly, and when the horse is ready, there is no problem with the use of draw reins. this horse above obviously isnt ready
AMEN! If you know how to ride correctly, there is NEVER a need for draw reins! Those that believe you do-need to learn how to ride correctly.
Bev Brady sounds like a fat lady that does ground training for 2 years telling the horse what a good little boy he is , only to find out you've now got a spoiled pet that rides you. Sound about right?
Just to tell you this, some horses use them as a little aid if they fling there head, and this is to stop the horse from doing that, they are not just for what she has said. I sometimes use them so no they are not just used for that.
A new dressage trainer has come into my barn with a large number of students. She has all her students use draw reins, and it is appalling.
never used them, as I never had to, but I am considering now... well. still debating between them and chambon. want to try both and see. Yes, I saw horse being literally abused in draw reins and no, I didn't stay quiet about it, so I am well aware of potential "danger". just like I do not agree with standing martingale but still can be a useful tool in teaching (no do not use it at shows and only used it maybe 5-6 times total for training)
a girl I know jumps in them and it's horrific to watch because the horse can't stretch out properly over the jump. She basically told me where to go for saying it was cruel, but she will be the one crying when her horse has injuries from jumping restricted.
Well Mclain Ward and many other showjumpers use them, and also over small jumps so the horse learns how to balance itself, Mclain Ward won at the World Equestrian Games this year so I'd say he knows what he is talking about. They can be abused, but they are not just for getting the horse to hold it's head in, there are many subtleties in training for jumping which you maybe don't understand fully.
the head is not restricted because the rider follows with his hands
get the hindquarters activiated correctly and the draw rein is then un-needed as the head comes into position automatically. bringing the head in does not allow the horse to carry more weight on its hindquarters which is the aim of dressage!
In what way can draw reins lift the back? they can't. Drive from the seat lifts the back.
All of you who are commenting "They're okay when the horse is ready." please define 'ready'? What is the prerequisite for draw reins being needed or helpful ever? Far out.
Oooooh dear my pony is upset and going to rear! Pull it's bloody head in then!
I disagree with this video. I do use draw reins at the beginning of my rides when practicing dressage. She has a lovely frame, but will try to evade the bit by throwing her head up as a reflex because the last girl who rode her yanked on her mouth. If I put the draw reins on for 10 min at the beginning of my ride while warming up and them take them up, she does not fight me at all the rest of the ride.
learned helplessness
I don't mind them, but only occasionally and by experienced people... don't think they should be used every single time they are worked, otherwise horse and rider depend on them, and just encourages a false outline. Don't agree with jumping in draw reins though!!
So it would seem!
We get disqualified when riding with draw reins at shows
yes draw reins are only for training
Equi Megan some people ride with them at shows
Oh I didn't know that nobody in my area brings them to shows....
probliby because they aren't allowed, I don't know ..
well, not impressed here. draw reins should feed from the inside to the outside to the rider's hand. Abruptly grabbing this horse from a stand still is extreme, although that may be what some folks would do. But it isn't really a useful way to show what can be accomplished with draw reins.
if you need draw reins to collect a horse.. you've got a problem :(
Unfortunately you're misleading everyone about draw reins deceleration is in your seat not in your hands
If you ask the horse very nicely and politely when it's bolting it will slow down too...in your dreams.
If you need to use draw reins to get your horse "on the bit" you might need to take up push bike riding! Draw reins are for lazy cheaters who have no idea of correct training principles. Outside rein inside leg!!!
Uh wow, this person obviously knows nothing about headset, collection, or framing up if she says draw reins are not useful.....typical. Naturally in English, they're not practical (or rarely used, as they're more of a western training aid)..so im not surprised shes giving them a bad name. A calm horse will react to draw reins correctly, obviously this mare isn't ready for them and needs more ground work and sacking out. If not abused, Draw reins are a great tool.
This woman is incorrect!
No, she's not!!!! She knows more about draw reins than you do!!!