@@btafbm okay so who deserves a spot over him them. Also PG being top 75 is not a bold claim, if you think so you’re probably new to basketball and hate on PG because it’s “cool” to
One guy I was surprised didn't make the list is Joe Dumars. Dude has a finals MVP, 2 championships, 6 all star selections. All NBA and All Defensive teams. Very underrated
Nah he’s top 100 but he didn’t have a long peak he had most success from being apart of a big 4 and never was a true leader it would be like putting tony Parker there as well IMO only the best of the best 2nd fiddles and third wheels could make it
Tony Parker should definitely be on this list, very long prime that attributed to a ton of winning, on top of the fact that he was a top 3 PG for a good amount of time. Just off his resume alone he should be up there ahead a lot of these guys.
Man. I would argue that for like a season or two, between Nash's and CP3's reign, Parker was the best point guard in the league. He's also 11th in playoff points scored. Everyone else in that top20 made the list.
Dikembe Mutombo was another wild one that I don't understand. Four-time Defensive Player of the Year, eight-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA, 3 time blocks leader, 2nd in blocks all time. Shits crazy
I think putting PG and Green in this list and siting Defense as the main reason, and not even considering Joe Dumars is crazy. Michael Jordan himself said Joe Dumars was the toughest person to guard him. Dumars is criminally underrated to this day IMO
Paul George isn’t strictly defense how Draymond Green is Paul George although may not be as good as a defender as green and dumars he’s way better offensively than both
I don't think Draymond Green should be on the list. You can say he's play the small 5 lineup. But his weakness, not able to create his own shot, I think that might have hurt him to get in.
@@emmanuelpeters6263 But scoring has an impact in the game. Draymond is still a solid defender but he isn't that defensive anchor like he was on the Warrior Finals runs.
Then u didn’t listen to what low was saying u don’t wanna put him bc he hated in the league but his career is hof worthy almost like him klay curry literally changed the game no teams was doing what they was doing
Solid adjustments. Kinda wish that Vince Carter was on the list since impact does playing a factor. Especially when you take into perspective in his role elevating posterizing dunks and not to mention in his prime was a decent shooter. The only downside for Vince was his lack of postseason success. Lets not forget that some of these top 75 players didn't win a championship without joining a legend like AD and LeBron, Ben Wallace and Chauncey, or Pierce with KG and Ray Allen. But that's me being biased.
No no, you're right. I feel like if you can seriously look at every great NBA player ever and put Dame on the list and leave off Dwight and Vince Carter then there's something wrong goin on here. Not shitting on Dame, cause I love Dame but come on
Vince came into the league with the most polished game probably in league history as a rookie. There was nothing on the offensive end that he couldn't do well when he started. A title is the only thing that stopped him from making it.
I'd been preaching for Ben Wallace. That man was a monster. I watched that man terrorize the league on the defensive end, and no one talks about it. I'm so glad you said it
I think Jokic should have made the list because of his all nba team selections and his MVP. His last season and this season are statistically better than almosy everyone's on the whole list.
T-Mac fell off HARD after 08. His peak was amazing, specifically those Orlando days, but his fall was tragic. I understand what you mean but all things considered, Dame has had a better career.
Kobe and harden eras tainted his image so much. Ironically, it’s because he wasn’t playing like the top center in the league like was in Orlando. He was insane in Orlando
I don't think Draymond or Klay should be here above Tony Parker. Not only do they have less accolades, they don't have the legonvity of a Tony Parker (top 10 in playoffs points and assists)
I just googled Tracy careers stats compared to dame because I think dame career,personally i think he having a better career.dame hasn’t been ruined by injuries and he hasn’t had much help in a such a stacked conference
@@jacobwilson7301 your right, I do feel it’s early for dame but I feel like he says it in a manner in which Tracy is league and bounds from dame which in my opinion there both high volume scoring machines
i was so happy when you listed PG. Like I get he's a meme now and ppl like to hate but no doubt he's one of the most talented ever with an underrated resume
you slow or sum AD is a better player then dame n it’s no where close ad plays defense n has the most complete bag for a big man in nba history n im not a ad fan but i respect his talent n resume. dame a good offensive player but this year his struggling to stay relevant n has always been a highlight player, his play style is based of player success not team success
@@vonnnnnntripinnn AD being the better player I can accept, but Dame has the same impact as him if not very similar. Dame is 10xs better on offense and his team all around is worse, but preceded to win more and stay healthy. AD is the more well rounded player, but never completed a full healthy season and is now finally winning. In big moments, Dame Has proven to be that guy while AD, while hasn’t had many opportunities to show it, still hasn’t proved to have the clutch on the playoffs. As of right now, AD is slightly better but still shouldn’t be on the top 75 list.
Because it would diminished the Kobe carried those Lakers by hisself. Just like Jordan ,people got to make a mystique of Kobe won those championships by hisself
Like and agree with most of the additions you made. Chris Bosh doesn’t get his flowers like he should and I hope that changes. He was forced to retire before we got to see him revert back to a #1 option role without LBJ and really ball out. That Draymond take take though I’m not rolling with 😂. Respect ✊🏿
The fact that Chris Bosh had to tailor his game to LeBrons playstyle lets you know the kind of player Bosh was in Miami. The numbers don’t show it but he was a big part in that team’s success
W list! def some honorable mentions like vc, pau, tony parker, ginobili, kyrie, etc.. but if we are basing it of winning, impact, and consistency those def make sense.. i love the draymond addition! like a few of the people you mentioned i feel like he doesn’t get a lot of recognition/respect for what he does and how he’s impacted the game.. not to mention his iq and just overall knowledge of the game.. but all in all great vid! def was looking forward to see who you added/removed! keep it up! 🐐🔥
@@nicyee3701 i agree, but that’s HIS list and it’s respectable.. imo i’d have tony parker and ginobili in there, but it’s not my list.. all i said was “it makes sense” bc they do deserve to be there
LOW man, I feel that if you’re gonna include Chris Bosh in this top 75 here, you’ve been very consistent in making sure that the all-time “Big 3’s” of the NBA, but one that isn’t getting nearly their just due is completing the big 3 Spurs trio in Tim Duncan(already in) Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili. They were so good for so long together, winningest trio in NBA history I’m pretty sure, they won 4 championships together, each having their fair share of all-star appearances, all-nba selections in a system that emphasized selflessness and winning above all. I completely agree with completing the golden state trio, they are all top 75 players of all time, not even a debate. I have a problem including Bosh in there before either Tony Parker or Manu though personally, put them ahead of Dame, PG, Melo, as well. They won too much for too long together. Oh and yeah Dumars got snubbed too for sure.
Depends on how you define 'winningest.' Probably in the regular season, maybe in the post-season as a whole. With the last Finals, though, the Dubs big 3 now have the most Finals wins of any trio in history.
@@MrBrachiatingApe good point, I just defined by the most traditional regular-season win metric, that’s what they’re known for. And hey, it’s gonna take a long time for someone to win as much in the playoffs as that Warriors trio. It could’ve been even more far apart if not for injuries/suspensions etc.
@@vidalrodriguez2001 not that much to do with your comment but centers id take over bosh are Artis Gilmore and Alonzo mourning. Mourning is a 2 time dpoy and I don’t see an argument for having bosh over zo. Zo’s Heat never did anything in the playoffs besides a conference finals but he was 2nd in mvp in 1999 and as I said earlier a 2x dpoy. Way better than bosh.
Kevin Johnson is grossly underrated and should be in the top 75. The year Suns decided to start him as PG, he turned the Suns franchise around to a 55+ win team and kept it that way through most of his career. And this started well before Barkley joined the team. His numbers are almost identical to Chris Paul. And how many 6'1 PG has a career 49.3% fg percentage? How many 6'1 PG has ever posterized someone like Hakeem, who happens to be the greatest shot blocker in NBA history.
Taking of Pete but keeping guys who essentially relatively based on what u said bout Pete not being revolutionary enough but the players decided to keep was the byproduct of of what the era subjected onto what he dominant let alone being the pioneered that spark upon a glimpse of what he see today into fruition
Taking draymond over klay on a team is the wildest take I’ve heard from you ever. Mans can score 37 in a quarter but draymond can make it for defensive versatility and playmaking/passing. I think your emphasizing defense wayy too much when it comes to including draymond. Is defense important? Absolutely but let’s not get carried away with one point even though he has clear flaws on the offensive end. He sets picks, sometimes shoots, and passes the ball. The first “position less” player was Magic Johnson he was the innovator of that, not draymond. The only argument to consider is how he innovated passing as a big man which is a fair point to make but to me doesn’t cut it, this is probably biased but one could argue that a guy like Boris Diaw deserves some credit as a passing big man on inconsistent minutes. Again that whole last point could be biased because I watched him play for most of his career but things just don’t add up to why draymond should be in the top 75 for me.
He didn’t innovate passing as a bigman. Many big before him were elite passers. Specifically bill Walton, Chris Webber, KG, Tim Duncan, vlade divac, Boris diaw, Lamar Odom, both the gasol bros, Joakim noah, and Ardvidas Sabonis.
How much impact can you have when you average a triple single for your career? He gets props for D? Anybody who has watched the game longer than 15 years knows that defense is nonexistent. All major American sports have gotten rid of rules or created new ones to boost Offense, and make it impossible to play Defense. People who would put Dre, Dwight, Bosh, Dame, or PG, and not have Pistol Pete, Tiny Arch, Dantley, Dumars, Moncrief show they have no knowledge of the History of the NBA and the Players. Dreymond shouldn't even be Top 100
Pistol Pete deserves to be on the list. You have a good point about how his style of play didn’t translate to winning championships but as an individual player he was one of the most skilled ever. Rest In Peace 🙏
With Pete and Tiny it all depends on who you're replacing them with (i.e. Dennis Johnson FMVP over tiny yes). A lot of players that pass the eye test but don't have the accolades or playoff success are usually the lone star on their team during their prime years. Too many people compare those players with another star who is surrounded by either other stars or players who can even crack a top 100 list
I disagree with having Chris Bosh on here, and quite frankly if he never was on the Heat he would have 0 Top 75 chances. He made 1 All-NBA third team his entire career, that speaks a lot.
This is as embarrassing as Harold Baines in MLBHOF. Are all who voted born after 1995? Not enough research or knowledge about older players. Kareem said on B.Scott's podcast, " I saw Wilt, Oscar, and Russell play. A lot of people never saw Magic/Bird and only saw an older Jordan. No, Adrian Dantley, or Pistol Pete, and then I see BOSH! Well, "The Mustard came off the hotdog". R.I.P Chick Hearns
@@Rieky22 both of them should be off the list. Most people responding here have little to no idea about the NBA pre Jordan. Pistol Pete and Adrian Dantley should have been on the list instead of Dre and Bosh
@@Rieky22 look at his stats. 24.3ppg 5.7reb 3.0ast 54%Fg 81.8%ft 1.0stl. 6 time All-Star. Lead the League in PPG twice. He scored over 30ppg in 6 seasons with a ROY. Dremond can't touch that
(spits out coffee) Draymond over Jerry Lucas? Dude! What are you sniffing? I was expecting recency bias, but I was expecting early greats like Sharman, Arizin, and Pettit, or maybe Walton, so I respect you for avoiding the easy targets. But two of the three best point guards of the late 60's/early 70's (Wilkens and Bing)? Wow. Ironically, I feel your Maravich exclusion. He was never a winner - in college or the pros. DJ (or Dumars) over Maravich would make sense
The Ones That I Removed 1. Billy Cunningham 2. Bill Sharman 3. Robert Parish 4. Dave DeBusschere 5. Nate Archibald 6. Jerry Lucas 7. Dave Bing 8. Nate Thurmond 9. Paul Arizin 10. Lenny Wilkens Added Players 1. Dwight Howard 2. Klay Thompson 3. Vince Carter 4. Alex English 5. Alonzo Mourning 6. Ben Wallace 7. Chauncey Billups 8. Tracy McGrady 9. Tony Parker 10. Nikola Jokic
Pistol Pete is 100% a top 75 player in NBA history lol. Injuries cut his years and he’s an innovator of the game. Ain’t no way Pistol Pete comes off that list lol. But yeah there was a lot of older players that shouldn’t have been on.
They kept the top 50 you shouldn't have changed the whole 75 just the 25+1 that they added. They kept the original top 50 for a reason (to keep history in tact) some of these names will be forgotten over time, but the anniversary will keep their names alive.
Agree with the Draymond take. One of the more influential players when it comes to impacting a winning team and evolving the game on the defensive end. He somewhat defined the small ball era which is a big part of modern basketball.
Dude would be working at a snack shack if he wasn't put into a perfect system in golden state where he fit in perfectly. Has absolutely and I quite literally mean absolutely nothing to offer on the offensive end. Would only get assists cause the great players surrounding him
@@justincrawley4256 just say you’re a casual and move on, he literally runs the offense. Averaged 6 or 7 assists literally the season curry and klay were out and was playing with high school lunch league players
@@bruhman980 idk man... a player only getting 7 assists when all he does is pass cause legit no one takes him seriously on the offensive end isn't impressive to me at all. You guys do have the defensive argument down. He is a good defender I will give him that (when he isn't using his hands and not getting called for fouls) but yeah definitely nowhere near a top 75 player of all time
@@bruhman980 if we are going to put him on the list might as well put people like Robert Horry on that list for winning and having seven rings.... people need to stop with this
The disrespect to kyrie Irving is ridiculous, he was special ever since his rookie year. If it wasn’t for injuries he would have many rings teaming up with bron and kd. Draymond doesn’t deserve it over kyrie
Would’ve means nothing. U don’t become one of the greats by would’ve. And why doesn’t draymond deserve it over kyrie when he’s had a better career. Stop thinking you liking a players game means that u get to surpass production. Draymond is the more valuable player with more accomplishments as a teammate and as an individual. Besides the one ring and all star selections, kyrie hasn’t done much of anything as an individual. No mvp caliber seasons, hasn’t led a team to anything as the first option, never led the league in any major stat. No defensive impact whatsoever. His numbers are good and he’s a great talent. But that’s about it. U need to be more than talented to be one of the greatest of all time not to mention he rarely stays on the court long enough to even have that type of production. He’s always hurt or sitting out for something.
Kyrie was nothing without lebron in the Eastern conference was a lottery team every year before lebron came back . D Rose did more than Kyrie . Dame plays in the West. You guys should know your guards Kevin Johnson ,Mahmoud Abdul Rauf, Gilbert Arenas,Marbury,Brandon Roy,and Kenny Anderson sre better. I didn't mention other guards. But stop with this narrative that Kyrie is an better than most Guards
@@fumbleman5882 it’s clear drose injury was much more significant in terms of the effect it had on his career than kyries injuries did. So that’s out the window
Klay is one of if not the best 3&D players ever and Draymond is a top 10 defensive player of ALL TIME they're easily top 75. You don't revolutionize basketball without the trio of them with Curry
Like facts even tho I’m a warriors fan I agree them being a trio literally changed the game like I can understand bc the player draymond is they think he shouldn’t be on the list but I think he could at least be the last name on the list
Can anyone explain to me why Vince Carter isn't even considered? The man is the only player in NBA history to play in four different decades and is universally regarded as the greatest dunker ever.
It’s a shame you did not mention Sidney Moncrief. Other than Dwight Howard, Dennis Johnson and Klay Thompson, I would argue Moncrief is the biggest snub. The only guard in NBA history to win multiple DPOY. Dragged the Milwaukee Bucks to conference finals appearances in the mid 80s against teams like Dr. J’s Sixers, Zeke’s Pistons and Bird’s Celtics. He’s got a great peak, lots of playoff success where he fell to some of the greatest teams ever (83 Sixers, 86 Celtics, etc.) and his defense is revered. How on earth is he not on the NBA 75?!
60s Russell, Wilt, Big O, West, Baylor 70s Kareem, Dr.J, Havlicek , Barry, Hayes 80s Magic, Bird, Moses, Zeke, Gervin 90s MJ, Hakeem, Robinson, Karl, Chuck 00s Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Dirk, KG 10s LeBron, KD, Steph, Kawhi, Harden 20s Giannis, Luka, Jokic, AD, Embiid I don't really like specific numbers , just tiers and because it's subjective, across eras and a team sport, I don't see a huge difference usually between who is ranked 7-9 or between 30 and 40. My tier 1 is Russell, Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Duncan, LeBron because they all were the best/most accomplished of a decade.
I don’t agree with putting draymond on the list he’s becoming the most overrated player in basketball his best quality is leadership which is a non basketball skill what’s the difference between a coach and draymond.draymond is a decent defender and scores 7 points a game in my opinion a coach who is a decent defender and scores 7 points a game should not come close to top 75 he’s not even top 100 I don’t care about team success when players don’t contribute that much ik no one in the world agrees with me but that’s how I see it
Honesty surprised you didn't mention that AD was on this list, I would have thrown him in with dame reasoning tbh. Too early in his career. Also Green deserve to be on this list people don't watch basketball or have bias.
@@TBRiddles Dame has both the better numbers and more postseason success before AD went to the Lakers. AD had multiple seasons missing the playoffs while Dame was there every year
@@TBRiddles It does matter when your peaks are borderline the same. AD and Dame have averaged the same amount of points since coming into the league obviously with Dame having more assists and AD having more rebounds. This is why you have to default to postseason success and as I said yeah AD has a ring but he missed the playoffs like 3 times if I’m not mistaken while Dame has gone every year of his career. It’s not like Dame has had much better teammates either since we can argue Jrue Holiday is as good as CJ
The issue with calling the list a “Top …” is that we can’t differentiate between “best” and “greatest”. I would have to assume they meant “greatest” due to the names on here. If they were going by “best”, there would be many more current players due to the nature of athletes getting better every year
@Trade Bum Simmons LOW stated in the video that they weren’t limited to keeping those 50 on the list, they had free reign to add and remove anyone they saw fit. I think their personal feelings on removing someone made them not do it, but that’s a different subject.
@@Christian_Armenian how many players have you heard say they want to be the best? It’s a goal for nearly every player especially the greats. Of course it matters.
Can't necessarily say Klay, or Dreymond should make this list. Definitely don't see Bosh being on here as well. Everything said about the players were true, but it's the same way for many players who didn't even make the list.
I disagree with your klay take. I feel what he has meant to the warriors dynasty and helping to revolutionize the game of basketball can not be understand. You don’t win 73 games with just 1 top 75 player
I’m genuinely confused on how people are saying Dame shouldn’t make the list but are putting Klay. They played in the league and dame has been consistently better their entire careers. If the criteria is longevity of they’re primes, klay also wouldn’t make it because he has five elite years before his injuries. You could argue he played a role on an all time team but then we have to start including players like ginobli over other all time greats just off of championship pedigree rather than what they brought to the league.
@NKC That’s fair but at the same time, it’s clear that Dame is more talented than players like Draymond and Klay. I’d get it if Dame wasn’t contributing to winning but he has yet to miss the playoffs in his prime despite playing with somewhat subpar rosters. I’m not even a Dame fan but we’re taking about a 25 ppg scorer over 6 seasons and counting. Like how much are we valuing being a third/fourth option on a championship team vs being a MVP caliber player on a consistent playoff team?
@@Christian_Armenian How do you determine how much Klay is impacting winning when he played with two top 20 players ever in their prime in Steph Curry and Kevin Durant? Dame has yet to play with another all star let alone two MVPs simultaneously lol
@NKC Yeah that’s 100% true. I mean more towards “GREATEST” when comparing players on a similar tier (i.e Giannis > Barkley) but I find it weird to apply that when comparing a MVP level player in Dame to a player that’s borderline all-nba like Draymond
I was surprised Kyrie, Klay and Dwight all got left off, Kyrie one of the most gifted point guards of all time, klay literally the second or third best shooter of all time and Dwight was a monster. I like how he added draymond tho cause he really did change the small ball lineup in the NBA. I mean teams have done it before but Draymond was so good at being able to guard bigs using his intelligence and being able to impact the offense with his playmaking and helped spaced the floor
Jimmy butler? 5 time all star, 4 time all nba, 5 time all defensive team, great two way player, Leads every team he’s on he should be somewhere on this list in my Opinion
@@reedfreida1215 the problem is there are way more impactful guys pre 2k. History of the game should be required to vote for this. A 50 question general NBA knowledge to qualify. Knowledge about the rule changes, and how it's almost a felony to play defense recently. I have a crazy suspicion that most All-Star players from the 70's-90's, would all have a bump in their PPG, FG%, and AST simply from the lack of tough physical D. That's just my take as NBA fiend since Tape Delays and the San Diego Clippers.#ThisGamesInTheRefridgeraror
@@nazztynatenugglife5891 draymond at his peak is easily a top 75 peak lol, impact wise comfortably into the top 50. You really think that non shooters from older eras would be MORE efficient in todays league relative to league average TS? I highly doubt that. PPG and APG vary based on era, just compare using per 100 or 75 stats.
@@reedfreida1215 non shooters, players shoot a better % while getting assaulted every game. No more hand check, no forearm shiver, no 5-sec count so ISO ball can be played. If someone sneezes on you now, you it 2 FT, they didn't have Flagrants 1 or 2. UA-cam McHale clotheslines Rambis, that was only 2 FT, no Flagrant, No ejection or Suspension. It was shut your mouth and shoot your 2. A lot of today's players are paper mache compared to old schoolers. Coupled with much softer Defenses, they would have an easier time on Offense. Also new players against old school defense, would have a tougher time because of the increased physicality and defense.
You said that some players are only on the list because of the fact they played with all time greats. Is that not the case with draymond, and to a lesser extent klay ?
Always injured, teams in which he was the number one option either missed playoffs or did better without him, never received even 1 MVP vote, ever. He isn’t top 75
@@benjaminan1183 no I have to disagree. Howard deserves 75 im not questioning the list just how kyrie who has been good since a rookie,all nba team and is at least top in best scorer in league
@@hardwoodthought1213 Klay never even played as a first option but he got put in there lol. You think draymond is better than kyrie? How would a team with him as the best player look? I'd take kyrie over reggie miller too. The knicks series made him so overrated.
This is by far the best list I’ve seen although I think you are missing Kyrie. Kyrie is one of the most skilled players ever at least like at the bare minimum he is top 10 most skilled.
What does skill mean if it doesn’t match the production? Y’all have to stop with that. Skill is the bare minimum requirement. It doesn’t mean anything in the grand context. U can be as talented as anyone, but u still need to Produce. He has the one Ring . That’s his saving grace. Besides that, it’s pretty bare for him individually.
The disrespect is sickening. The same reasons he gave for why tmac should be in over dame is the same reason vinsanity should be on the list. Vince was probably the most popular player in the league for a few years. He literally has the most clutch/buzzer beaters of all time, if not very close. Greatest dunker all time period. Doesn’t make sense. Damn sure can’t have Chris bosh over Vince.
With that being said I 100 percent agree with the Tracy McGrady take. Best pure scorer in the history of the game. Kobe said it best when he said he was the hardest to guard. Dude put up 60 like it was 30.
Yeah like how did Dame make it what has he done besides be a superstar player that loses in the 2nd round at most every year like there was more deserving players
@@Knownas_DonDada yeah like he is hated by people so they don’t wanna give him credit for how good he is bc they think bc he not a scorer he not good but has been a huge part of the team and the rings they got
U might be 10 cuz u obviously havent been watching that long my guy. I didnt mention his rookie year, even tho he stepped into the league being productive on playoff teams. 10 years of high level production including 25 ppg the last 8 not even including the current season thats ongoing. 6 x all star (robbed once or twice) 6 x all nba Im not even a dame guy but my whole point is that dame literally fits his criteria of having longevity and 7+ years of prime level production. Which is factually true. Now go scribble in a coloring book lol
Not rlly, what did Rodman do that draymond didn't c'mon man. Kyrie hit a shot 😂. VC is great but he didnt have postseason success. Tony Parker is the only one that stands a question 😤.
@@ethanjacobson3121 more chips, more dpoy, more rebounding championships, more defensive first team selections (not saying he’s significantly better but u asked)
Probably due to postseason success and PG is a much better defender than Vince Carter. I feel like Vince should be on the list if we take off some of those old ass 60s players off the list
tony parker, pau gasol, and joe dumars are guys who should be above a lot of guys you mentioned. I just can't give it to Draymond because he benefits so much from his situation. Consistently being the third or fourth best player on your team, no matter how great you are in that role, it is a hard sell to make. Idk if he gets any of his accolades if he is on any other team. all three played major roles on championship teams while having many all star caliber years. the finals mvp's help out a lot too for the two guards. And Im not sure how you take Tiny out and put Tracy in. Both had similar 6 or 7 year peaks, and Tiny even made 3 all star teams after his Achilles injury.
Impact is the only thing keeping pistol on that list. What has dame done that is significantly Better than a defensive player of the year and 3 time champion? Be an all star? He’s a BETTER player for sure? But greater is debatable.
A great way to reframe this list is, "How many other players could match their performance when they were playing?" If the average answer, across their peak, is worse than 10, then they probably do not belong on this list. I'm not familiar enough with a lot of these players, but after checking out a few names that seemed unlikely to me, I can confirm that there's probably a bunch of these guys who have no business being up here.
Low: requires a 7+ year prime to make list and claims damian lillard doesnt have the longevity required. Dame: last 8 years not including this one is 25 ppg 6 x all star 6 x all nba , while also being snubbed once or twice of an all star selection. I think people forget how long dame has been doing this and at how consistently a level.
It’s not that Dame doesn’t deserve it but he doesn’t deserve it over names like Dwight, Klay, Draymond, etc;. Those guys have had postseason success, meanwhile Dame has 0 finals appearances, 1 bubble mvp thing, and lead blowings to an injured Pelicans in 2018 and Warriors in 2019
75th in PER: Rick Barry (Made top 75 list) 75th in WS/48: Steve Nash (Made top 75 list) 75th in WS: Carmelo Anthony (Made top 75 list) 75th in BPM: Ray Allen (Made top 75 list) 75th in VORP: Jack Sikma (Did not make top 75 list)
“Tiny Archibald comes up short for top 75” you are not slick. 😂😂😂
LOW tryna be funny 🤣
Haha cmon man it’s an oldie but goodie
I don't agree with you taking Pistol Pete off the list, but I can respect your reasoning for doing so. Good clarification.
I respect it I feel like he's definitely a top 100 players but 75 no he's in the 80-90 range for me
Respect for disagreeing without getting offended or being disrespectful
nah he was the prototype
I don't agree and I don't respect his reasoning.
@@mareklame8589 Cool. Too bad you were too lazy to come up with an actual argument.
AND lets not forget Paul George completely shattered his leg and came back to putting up all star numbers
MVP numbers. He was 3rd in MVP voting in 2019 behind Giannis and Harden
No ones saying he’s not a good player but if you think he’s top 75 all time you’re clinically insane
@@btafbm over dame??? yes he is better all time
@@btafbm okay so who deserves a spot over him them. Also PG being top 75 is not a bold claim, if you think so you’re probably new to basketball and hate on PG because it’s “cool” to
@@joshjackson8387 hey sir first of all your josh jackson, so dont be talking that shit. You aint even top 7000 all time
Tony Parker is a snub. He never gets enough credit for the Spurs dynasty.
I agree, he was a problem in his prime, and he did it all playing his career at the highest level competing for championships most years.
Tony Park is so overrated 😂🤦♂️
One guy I was surprised didn't make the list is Joe Dumars. Dude has a finals MVP, 2 championships, 6 all star selections. All NBA and All Defensive teams. Very underrated
Dumars I said also Jordan gave him props
Harden and Carmelo are trash
Nah he’s top 100 but he didn’t have a long peak he had most success from being apart of a big 4 and never was a true leader it would be like putting tony Parker there as well IMO only the best of the best 2nd fiddles and third wheels could make it
Sidney Moncrief, too
Joe Dumars had Isiah Thomas. And he was a poor defender.
I'm happy Ben Wallace is credited. He deserves that spot. Same as Dwight.
“Stop disrespecting dwight” makes fun of Rusty in the draft
bro I didnt understand it either. made no sense lol
I mean. Public Perception cause it was voting. And Not sure if Shaq gets clamped by Dwight soo...
So Tony Parker and Manu are not impact players, players that showed that playing in your role can help your team?
They deserved roses too imo
Fact !!
I rather have Tony Parker and Manu before Dame and PG13
Watching the video I was waiting the entire time for either of their names to be mentioned.
@@navonmyhand7999 spurs get no recognition its been like that for years
They deserve roses, I just dont know about top 75 type roses
Tony Parker should definitely be on this list, very long prime that attributed to a ton of winning, on top of the fact that he was a top 3 PG for a good amount of time. Just off his resume alone he should be up there ahead a lot of these guys.
Ginobili was better than a lot on this list and all the new guys
AMEN
As a Bias spurs fan I agree lol
take westbrook off and put tony /ginobili
Man. I would argue that for like a season or two, between Nash's and CP3's reign, Parker was the best point guard in the league.
He's also 11th in playoff points scored. Everyone else in that top20 made the list.
Dikembe Mutombo was another wild one that I don't understand. Four-time Defensive Player of the Year, eight-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA, 3 time blocks leader, 2nd in blocks all time. Shits crazy
Right! Dikembe Mutombo is one of the greatest defensive players of all time.
Holy I didn’t even realize he wasn’t on the list
Shit i didn't even know he did so much. Put him in that list
I think putting PG and Green in this list and siting Defense as the main reason, and not even considering Joe Dumars is crazy. Michael Jordan himself said Joe Dumars was the toughest person to guard him. Dumars is criminally underrated to this day IMO
both pg and green had huge impacts on the offensive end as well
@@Dusty-hd7it so did dumars
Paul George isn’t strictly defense how Draymond Green is Paul George although may not be as good as a defender as green and dumars he’s way better offensively than both
@@TheIcemanthomas not as large as pg and green
@@joshjackson8387 draymond isn’t strictly defense
That Ben Wallace pick was unexpected but completely necessary.
I don't think Draymond Green should be on the list. You can say he's play the small 5 lineup. But his weakness, not able to create his own shot, I think that might have hurt him to get in.
denis rodman is on that list, he doesn't have 1 shot collection to his name and many others
Dude is low key one of the biggest reasons positionless basketball is what is it today. Deserves a spot for sure.
@@emmanuelpeters6263 dennis Rodman is also one of the best rebounders ever and an all time defensive stopper. What are we talking about right now?
@@Blackmagic_874 the list isn’t based on scoring, draymond one of the best defenders too
@@emmanuelpeters6263 But scoring has an impact in the game. Draymond is still a solid defender but he isn't that defensive anchor like he was on the Warrior Finals runs.
I don’t think green should be on the list but that’s my opinion
Then u didn’t listen to what low was saying u don’t wanna put him bc he hated in the league but his career is hof worthy almost like him klay curry literally changed the game no teams was doing what they was doing
I get why he put him and I respect draymond but he should have said Tony Parker or Manu before Dray
@@destinedforgreatness3030 bro Draymond is not hof’er, he’s a winner yes 👏🏾 but bro is not even close to being in the hof but thats just my opinion
Draymond should not be on the list
@@Chapo812 well it jus be urs bc he has a case to be listen to what low said about his impact
I just recently started getting more into basketball in 2020. I love gaining all this knowledge on current and old players
Solid adjustments. Kinda wish that Vince Carter was on the list since impact does playing a factor. Especially when you take into perspective in his role elevating posterizing dunks and not to mention in his prime was a decent shooter. The only downside for Vince was his lack of postseason success. Lets not forget that some of these top 75 players didn't win a championship without joining a legend like AD and LeBron, Ben Wallace and Chauncey, or Pierce with KG and Ray Allen. But that's me being biased.
No no, you're right. I feel like if you can seriously look at every great NBA player ever and put Dame on the list and leave off Dwight and Vince Carter then there's something wrong goin on here. Not shitting on Dame, cause I love Dame but come on
You mean kg and ray with pierce
@@skyrex0198 hahahahahaha
Vince came into the league with the most polished game probably in league history as a rookie. There was nothing on the offensive end that he couldn't do well when he started. A title is the only thing that stopped him from making it.
@@Kingstyles05 Vince in his rookie year averaged 18pts and 3ast on 45%fg mj averaged 28pts 6ast on 51%fg u jus lied for no reason
I just don't see how in the hell did AD made it on Dwight Howard....maybe it's just me but I feel like AD is overrated
It's definitely not just you. Quite a few people say that... But y'all are all wrong though
@@kbis2cold explain
@Tyrone Verser your not explaining why
@Tyrone Verser please tell me what ad did better then Dwight prime nd prime
That man AD is injury prone I don’t think ad should be on their Damian it too early but I understand to me he top 78
I'd been preaching for Ben Wallace. That man was a monster. I watched that man terrorize the league on the defensive end, and no one talks about it. I'm so glad you said it
I think Jokic should have made the list because of his all nba team selections and his MVP. His last season and this season are statistically better than almosy everyone's on the whole list.
Kinda early. If this list was made like 2-3 years later then I'd definitely agree.
How? It wasn't better than Steph 2016 season, mj 1991
@@yetundeadeyemi2436 I said almost. The funny part is that since my last comment, he won another MVP. There's no way he's not a top 50 player now
T-Mac fell off HARD after 08. His peak was amazing, specifically those Orlando days, but his fall was tragic. I understand what you mean but all things considered, Dame has had a better career.
People only disrespect Dwight because of what shaq says and the bad year in la but people act like he wasn’t all star level in Houston either
The disrespect I saw to dwight Howard was crazy
It was literally people saying Kyrie deserved to be on the list more than Dwight
@@purerage7812 Agreed.
Kobe and harden eras tainted his image so much. Ironically, it’s because he wasn’t playing like the top center in the league like was in Orlando. He was insane in Orlando
I don't think Draymond or Klay should be here above Tony Parker.
Not only do they have less accolades, they don't have the legonvity of a Tony Parker (top 10 in playoffs points and assists)
I just googled Tracy careers stats compared to dame because I think dame career,personally i think he having a better career.dame hasn’t been ruined by injuries and he hasn’t had much help in a such a stacked conference
We are talking dames resume currently vs mcgradys it should be obviously Tracy
@@jacobwilson7301 T-Mac’s resume is he’s only made it out of the 1st round once.
@@jacobwilson7301 your right, I do feel it’s early for dame but I feel like he says it in a manner in which Tracy is league and bounds from dame which in my opinion there both high volume scoring machines
Who are closer than most make it out too seem but that’s just my opinion
@@ramirocantu8706 McGrady’s resume is not leagues ahead of dame. T Mac is a 7x all star and 7x all nba. dame has 6 for all star and all nba.
i was so happy when you listed PG. Like I get he's a meme now and ppl like to hate but no doubt he's one of the most talented ever with an underrated resume
If the case with Dame was it’s too early, it’s too early for Anthony Davis as well. He just started winning and still is injury prone.
you slow or sum AD is a better player then dame n it’s no where close ad plays defense n has the most complete bag for a big man in nba history n im not a ad fan but i respect his talent n resume. dame a good offensive player but this year his struggling to stay relevant n has always been a highlight player, his play style is based of player success not team success
@@vonnnnnntripinnn AD being the better player I can accept, but Dame has the same impact as him if not very similar. Dame is 10xs better on offense and his team all around is worse, but preceded to win more and stay healthy. AD is the more well rounded player, but never completed a full healthy season and is now finally winning. In big moments, Dame Has proven to be that guy while AD, while hasn’t had many opportunities to show it, still hasn’t proved to have the clutch on the playoffs. As of right now, AD is slightly better but still shouldn’t be on the top 75 list.
@@vonnnnnntripinnn and yet before joining Lebron, AD rarely made the playoffs, lmao. Shut that shit up.
@@ashtonlabosette2688 has a chip
@@yetundeadeyemi2436 Norris Cole also has a chip. You taking him over Dame? Don’t think so.
I would love to know why is everyone forgetting about Pau Gasol?
💯💯💯
2nd best Euro behind Dirk, but has more rings. He doesn't get the Shine like Dirk, but Great player.
No love for the 2 time Champ. His career is way more accomplished than Dreymond Green, and so are his stats.
Because it would diminished the Kobe carried those Lakers by hisself. Just like Jordan ,people got to make a mystique of Kobe won those championships by hisself
Like and agree with most of the additions you made. Chris Bosh doesn’t get his flowers like he should and I hope that changes. He was forced to retire before we got to see him revert back to a #1 option role without LBJ and really ball out. That Draymond take take though I’m not rolling with 😂. Respect ✊🏿
The fact that Chris Bosh had to tailor his game to LeBrons playstyle lets you know the kind of player Bosh was in Miami. The numbers don’t show it but he was a big part in that team’s success
W list! def some honorable mentions like vc, pau, tony parker, ginobili, kyrie, etc.. but if we are basing it of winning, impact, and consistency those def make sense.. i love the draymond addition! like a few of the people you mentioned i feel like he doesn’t get a lot of recognition/respect for what he does and how he’s impacted the game.. not to mention his iq and just overall knowledge of the game.. but all in all great vid! def was looking forward to see who you added/removed! keep it up! 🐐🔥
No they don't lmao ginobili and Parker did more winning and had more impact then most of the new players
@@nicyee3701 i agree, but that’s HIS list and it’s respectable.. imo i’d have tony parker and ginobili in there, but it’s not my list.. all i said was “it makes sense” bc they do deserve to be there
Adrian Dantley and Alex English
All I know is this, Bill Russell will forever earn a spot in every one of these lists.
Same with Kyle kuzma
lmao congrats you know basketball
@@jamaalr.4281 fax
The floor is made of floor
Same with Alex Caruso
LOW man, I feel that if you’re gonna include Chris Bosh in this top 75 here, you’ve been very consistent in making sure that the all-time “Big 3’s” of the NBA, but one that isn’t getting nearly their just due is completing the big 3 Spurs trio in Tim Duncan(already in) Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili. They were so good for so long together, winningest trio in NBA history I’m pretty sure, they won 4 championships together, each having their fair share of all-star appearances, all-nba selections in a system that emphasized selflessness and winning above all. I completely agree with completing the golden state trio, they are all top 75 players of all time, not even a debate. I have a problem including Bosh in there before either Tony Parker or Manu though personally, put them ahead of Dame, PG, Melo, as well. They won too much for too long together. Oh and yeah Dumars got snubbed too for sure.
Depends on how you define 'winningest.' Probably in the regular season, maybe in the post-season as a whole. With the last Finals, though, the Dubs big 3 now have the most Finals wins of any trio in history.
@@MrBrachiatingApe good point, I just defined by the most traditional regular-season win metric, that’s what they’re known for. And hey, it’s gonna take a long time for someone to win as much in the playoffs as that Warriors trio. It could’ve been even more far apart if not for injuries/suspensions etc.
@@vidalrodriguez2001 not that much to do with your comment but centers id take over bosh are Artis Gilmore and Alonzo mourning. Mourning is a 2 time dpoy and I don’t see an argument for having bosh over zo. Zo’s Heat never did anything in the playoffs besides a conference finals but he was 2nd in mvp in 1999 and as I said earlier a 2x dpoy. Way better than bosh.
Kevin Johnson is grossly underrated and should be in the top 75. The year Suns decided to start him as PG, he turned the Suns franchise around to a 55+ win team and kept it that way through most of his career. And this started well before Barkley joined the team. His numbers are almost identical to Chris Paul. And how many 6'1 PG has a career 49.3% fg percentage? How many 6'1 PG has ever posterized someone like Hakeem, who happens to be the greatest shot blocker in NBA history.
No he shouldn't.
Taking of Pete but keeping guys who essentially relatively based on what u said bout Pete not being revolutionary enough but the players decided to keep was the byproduct of of what the era subjected onto what he dominant let alone being the pioneered that spark upon a glimpse of what he see today into fruition
For me
OUT : Dame, AD 📤
IN : TP, Pau Gasol 📥
No debate !
And I'm thinking a lot about Dumars, Dwight and Vince, if we take off some of the first 50 🤔
I agree Dame and ADisney shouldn't be on the list. Dwight should've been in there, Parker definitely has a real case with his Finals MVP.
dwight, vince, and dumars deserve to be in the top 75 but not replace dame and AD SMH, those players actually make sense
AD is that dude though. I rather have AD over TP.
Taking draymond over klay on a team is the wildest take I’ve heard from you ever. Mans can score 37 in a quarter but draymond can make it for defensive versatility and playmaking/passing. I think your emphasizing defense wayy too much when it comes to including draymond. Is defense important? Absolutely but let’s not get carried away with one point even though he has clear flaws on the offensive end. He sets picks, sometimes shoots, and passes the ball. The first “position less” player was Magic Johnson he was the innovator of that, not draymond. The only argument to consider is how he innovated passing as a big man which is a fair point to make but to me doesn’t cut it, this is probably biased but one could argue that a guy like Boris Diaw deserves some credit as a passing big man on inconsistent minutes. Again that whole last point could be biased because I watched him play for most of his career but things just don’t add up to why draymond should be in the top 75 for me.
He didn’t innovate passing as a bigman. Many big before him were elite passers. Specifically bill Walton, Chris Webber, KG, Tim
Duncan, vlade divac, Boris diaw, Lamar Odom, both the gasol bros, Joakim noah, and Ardvidas Sabonis.
How much impact can you have when you average a triple single for your career? He gets props for D? Anybody who has watched the game longer than 15 years knows that defense is nonexistent. All major American sports have gotten rid of rules or created new ones to boost Offense, and make it impossible to play Defense. People who would put Dre, Dwight, Bosh, Dame, or PG, and not have Pistol Pete, Tiny Arch, Dantley, Dumars, Moncrief show they have no knowledge of the History of the NBA and the Players. Dreymond shouldn't even be Top 100
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Draymond is a top 5 GOAT defender.
They really doing Kyrie dirty. If you don’t tow the party line, might as well not exist.
Agreed with all these choices except PG. Tony Parker being left off is insane to me
I think Joe Dumars not being talked about is insane, one of the greatest perimeter defenders especially at the pg.
I’d throw in either Tony Parker or Pau Gasol. Not only were they both incredible players but they influenced the game to spread it internationally
May i ask why you don’t agree
Pistol Pete deserves to be on the list. You have a good point about how his style of play didn’t translate to winning championships but as an individual player he was one of the most skilled ever. Rest In Peace 🙏
With Pete and Tiny it all depends on who you're replacing them with (i.e. Dennis Johnson FMVP over tiny yes). A lot of players that pass the eye test but don't have the accolades or playoff success are usually the lone star on their team during their prime years. Too many people compare those players with another star who is surrounded by either other stars or players who can even crack a top 100 list
I disagree with having Chris Bosh on here, and quite frankly if he never was on the Heat he would have 0 Top 75 chances.
He made 1 All-NBA third team his entire career, that speaks a lot.
This is as embarrassing as Harold Baines in MLBHOF. Are all who voted born after 1995? Not enough research or knowledge about older players. Kareem said on B.Scott's podcast, " I saw Wilt, Oscar, and Russell play. A lot of people never saw Magic/Bird and only saw an older Jordan. No, Adrian Dantley, or Pistol Pete, and then I see BOSH! Well, "The Mustard came off the hotdog". R.I.P Chick Hearns
The Bosh disrespect is crazy if draymond should be on here then bosh should too
@@Rieky22 both of them should be off the list. Most people responding here have little to no idea about the NBA pre Jordan. Pistol Pete and Adrian Dantley should have been on the list instead of Dre and Bosh
@@nazztynatenugglife5891 u seriously smoking something buddy Adrain Dantely??? Come on now
@@Rieky22 look at his stats. 24.3ppg 5.7reb 3.0ast 54%Fg 81.8%ft 1.0stl. 6 time All-Star. Lead the League in PPG twice. He scored over 30ppg in 6 seasons with a ROY. Dremond can't touch that
I’ll never forget when Shannon sharpe try to make a case why PG isn’t a hall of famer but will say draymon is with no resistance
Shannon Sharpe does not know anything about basketball.
Because voters value impact and rings
(spits out coffee) Draymond over Jerry Lucas? Dude! What are you sniffing? I was expecting recency bias, but I was expecting early greats like Sharman, Arizin, and Pettit, or maybe Walton, so I respect you for avoiding the easy targets. But two of the three best point guards of the late 60's/early 70's (Wilkens and Bing)? Wow. Ironically, I feel your Maravich exclusion. He was never a winner - in college or the pros. DJ (or Dumars) over Maravich would make sense
IMO I think tony Parker should’ve been on there
Was looking for this comment Manu could be considered too but def Tony over dame and Dwight over AD
Great video man, we want more of this style of video
I feel bad for Dwight he lost his prime early and now he's getting disrespected😔
- Never cared for Dwight. But he's Top 75 for sure. 3 DPOYs, 1 Finals appearance with ORL (and 1 chip with the LAL). Blocks, Rebs champ. Props.
The Ones That I Removed
1. Billy Cunningham
2. Bill Sharman
3. Robert Parish
4. Dave DeBusschere
5. Nate Archibald
6. Jerry Lucas
7. Dave Bing
8. Nate Thurmond
9. Paul Arizin
10. Lenny Wilkens
Added Players
1. Dwight Howard
2. Klay Thompson
3. Vince Carter
4. Alex English
5. Alonzo Mourning
6. Ben Wallace
7. Chauncey Billups
8. Tracy McGrady
9. Tony Parker
10. Nikola Jokic
Parrish top 75
Only joker and Alonzo are top 75. Rodman isn't better than anyone you removed
Bernard King MOST DEFINITELY should've made the list. Better Recognize 🔥🔥
Bro you put the video together very well and you made your opinions and points clear and honest. Respect 🙏🏽keep it up
Pistol Pete is 100% a top 75 player in NBA history lol. Injuries cut his years and he’s an innovator of the game. Ain’t no way Pistol Pete comes off that list lol. But yeah there was a lot of older players that shouldn’t have been on.
They kept the top 50 you shouldn't have changed the whole 75 just the 25+1 that they added. They kept the original top 50 for a reason (to keep history in tact) some of these names will be forgotten over time, but the anniversary will keep their names alive.
They're just adding people to the list not taking people off that's the whole purpose of this anniversary.
Agree with the Draymond take. One of the more influential players when it comes to impacting a winning team and evolving the game on the defensive end. He somewhat defined the small ball era which is a big part of modern basketball.
Dude would be working at a snack shack if he wasn't put into a perfect system in golden state where he fit in perfectly. Has absolutely and I quite literally mean absolutely nothing to offer on the offensive end. Would only get assists cause the great players surrounding him
@@justincrawley4256 Casual.
@@justincrawley4256 just say you’re a casual and move on, he literally runs the offense. Averaged 6 or 7 assists literally the season curry and klay were out and was playing with high school lunch league players
@@bruhman980 idk man... a player only getting 7 assists when all he does is pass cause legit no one takes him seriously on the offensive end isn't impressive to me at all. You guys do have the defensive argument down. He is a good defender I will give him that (when he isn't using his hands and not getting called for fouls) but yeah definitely nowhere near a top 75 player of all time
@@bruhman980 if we are going to put him on the list might as well put people like Robert Horry on that list for winning and having seven rings.... people need to stop with this
"They put up numbers but with no post season success"
Proceeds to put TMAC on the list
And preceded to take off Pete and Damian lillard
TMac didn't just put up empty numbers he was actually legit though. Comparable with Kobe at his peak
Because of peak
@@guledm12 Yet when it came to the post season he crumbled. We may as way out Arenas on this list if we value regular season volume scoring that much
The disrespect to kyrie Irving is ridiculous, he was special ever since his rookie year. If it wasn’t for injuries he would have many rings teaming up with bron and kd. Draymond doesn’t deserve it over kyrie
Would’ve means nothing. U don’t become one of the greats by would’ve. And why doesn’t draymond deserve it over kyrie when he’s had a better career. Stop thinking you liking a players game means that u get to surpass production. Draymond is the more valuable player with more accomplishments as a teammate and as an individual. Besides the one ring and all star selections, kyrie hasn’t done much of anything as an individual. No mvp caliber seasons, hasn’t led a team to anything as the first option, never led the league in any major stat. No defensive impact whatsoever. His numbers are good and he’s a great talent. But that’s about it. U need to be more than talented to be one of the greatest of all time not to mention he rarely stays on the court long enough to even have that type of production. He’s always hurt or sitting out for something.
By your logic d rose should be top 20 all time
@@TheIcemanthomas using your logic how tf is draymond over him?
Kyrie was nothing without lebron in the Eastern conference was a lottery team every year before lebron came back . D Rose did more than Kyrie . Dame plays in the West. You guys should know your guards Kevin Johnson ,Mahmoud Abdul Rauf, Gilbert Arenas,Marbury,Brandon Roy,and Kenny Anderson sre better. I didn't mention other guards. But stop with this narrative that Kyrie is an better than most Guards
@@fumbleman5882 it’s clear drose injury was much more significant in terms of the effect it had on his career than kyries injuries did. So that’s out the window
Mutombo has to be top 75 he's tied for the most DPOY with Ben Wallace
Nah he is famous for blocking and that's about it
Unlike ben wallace he has 0 championships
Alonzo morning
Klay is one of if not the best 3&D players ever and Draymond is a top 10 defensive player of ALL TIME they're easily top 75. You don't revolutionize basketball without the trio of them with Curry
Like facts even tho I’m a warriors fan I agree them being a trio literally changed the game like I can understand bc the player draymond is they think he shouldn’t be on the list but I think he could at least be the last name on the list
Hakeem, DRob, Wallace, Dwight, Duncan, Russell, Eaton, Wilt, AD
& Garnett > Dray on defense.
@@benjaminan1183 Mutumbo and mourning too
Can anyone explain to me why Vince Carter isn't even considered? The man is the only player in NBA history to play in four different decades and is universally regarded as the greatest dunker ever.
No chips, no mvps, no dpyos, injuries… need more?
@@almightymike9484 Yeah, because all of those are true for Dame too
@@Splackavellie85 Which is why he’s arguably not on the list either
@@almightymike9484 So, does that mean you think Dominique Wilkins should be dropped from the list?
Because he was on teams capable of winning but didn’t win
It’s a shame you did not mention Sidney Moncrief. Other than Dwight Howard, Dennis Johnson and Klay Thompson, I would argue Moncrief is the biggest snub. The only guard in NBA history to win multiple DPOY. Dragged the Milwaukee Bucks to conference finals appearances in the mid 80s against teams like Dr. J’s Sixers, Zeke’s Pistons and Bird’s Celtics. He’s got a great peak, lots of playoff success where he fell to some of the greatest teams ever (83 Sixers, 86 Celtics, etc.) and his defense is revered. How on earth is he not on the NBA 75?!
Klay Thompson is not even top 100.
60s Russell, Wilt, Big O, West, Baylor
70s Kareem, Dr.J, Havlicek , Barry, Hayes
80s Magic, Bird, Moses, Zeke, Gervin
90s MJ, Hakeem, Robinson, Karl, Chuck
00s Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Dirk, KG
10s LeBron, KD, Steph, Kawhi, Harden
20s Giannis, Luka, Jokic, AD, Embiid
I don't really like specific numbers , just tiers and because it's subjective, across eras and a team sport, I don't see a huge difference usually between who is ranked 7-9 or between 30 and 40.
My tier 1 is Russell, Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Duncan, LeBron because they all were the best/most accomplished of a decade.
Jordan top 5 for the 80s Zeke & Gervin aren't, Kareem is. Ewing>Robinson. Steph>KD.
I blame Shaq for the Dwight disrespect.
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I don’t agree with putting draymond on the list he’s becoming the most overrated player in basketball his best quality is leadership which is a non basketball skill what’s the difference between a coach and draymond.draymond is a decent defender and scores 7 points a game in my opinion a coach who is a decent defender and scores 7 points a game should not come close to top 75 he’s not even top 100 I don’t care about team success when players don’t contribute that much ik no one in the world agrees with me but that’s how I see it
Honesty surprised you didn't mention that AD was on this list, I would have thrown him in with dame reasoning tbh. Too early in his career. Also Green deserve to be on this list people don't watch basketball or have bias.
AD is far ahead of Lillard in terms of his peak
@@TBRiddles Dame has both the better numbers and more postseason success before AD went to the Lakers. AD had multiple seasons missing the playoffs while Dame was there every year
@@ubereats3047 making the postseason does not equal better all time peak
@@TBRiddles It does matter when your peaks are borderline the same. AD and Dame have averaged the same amount of points since coming into the league obviously with Dame having more assists and AD having more rebounds. This is why you have to default to postseason success and as I said yeah AD has a ring but he missed the playoffs like 3 times if I’m not mistaken while Dame has gone every year of his career. It’s not like Dame has had much better teammates either since we can argue Jrue Holiday is as good as CJ
@@ubereats3047 average the same amount of points but doesn’t talk about AD’s all time great defense. Ight then lol.
The reason they didn't take anyone of the list is because it sets a scary precedent in saying that one day the majority of those players will be gone.
I mean it’s accurate though
It's logic. How you gonna put AD and Lilliard before Thompson and Green?
Tbf if u look on his list, he still has AD on the list😂
The issue with calling the list a “Top …” is that we can’t differentiate between “best” and “greatest”. I would have to assume they meant “greatest” due to the names on here. If they were going by “best”, there would be many more current players due to the nature of athletes getting better every year
Why does who was the best matter?
@Trade Bum Simmons LOW stated in the video that they weren’t limited to keeping those 50 on the list, they had free reign to add and remove anyone they saw fit. I think their personal feelings on removing someone made them not do it, but that’s a different subject.
@@Christian_Armenian how many players have you heard say they want to be the best? It’s a goal for nearly every player especially the greats. Of course it matters.
@@2KOhtani my point is comparing past players to current. Why does it matter if players rn are better from an alltime standpoint
Athletes getting better doesn’t make them
Better basketball players.
Can't necessarily say Klay, or Dreymond should make this list. Definitely don't see Bosh being on here as well. Everything said about the players were true, but it's the same way for many players who didn't even make the list.
I disagree with your klay take. I feel what he has meant to the warriors dynasty and helping to revolutionize the game of basketball can not be understand. You don’t win 73 games with just 1 top 75 player
Putting Chris Bosh & Draymond on a list before Dikembe Mutombo & Pau Gasol is crazy 🤷🏾♂️
I’m genuinely confused on how people are saying Dame shouldn’t make the list but are putting Klay. They played in the league and dame has been consistently better their entire careers. If the criteria is longevity of they’re primes, klay also wouldn’t make it because he has five elite years before his injuries. You could argue he played a role on an all time team but then we have to start including players like ginobli over other all time greats just off of championship pedigree rather than what they brought to the league.
@NKC That’s fair but at the same time, it’s clear that Dame is more talented than players like Draymond and Klay. I’d get it if Dame wasn’t contributing to winning but he has yet to miss the playoffs in his prime despite playing with somewhat subpar rosters. I’m not even a Dame fan but we’re taking about a 25 ppg scorer over 6 seasons and counting. Like how much are we valuing being a third/fourth option on a championship team vs being a MVP caliber player on a consistent playoff team?
@@shoryuking2213 but other than being a good player he hasn’t done nun and like low explained in the vid y Dame shouldn’t be on the list
The criteria is careers. Klay Thomson this far has impacted winning throughout his career more than dame
@@Christian_Armenian How do you determine how much Klay is impacting winning when he played with two top 20 players ever in their prime in Steph Curry and Kevin Durant? Dame has yet to play with another all star let alone two MVPs simultaneously lol
@NKC Yeah that’s 100% true. I mean more towards “GREATEST” when comparing players on a similar tier (i.e Giannis > Barkley) but I find it weird to apply that when comparing a MVP level player in Dame to a player that’s borderline all-nba like Draymond
Draymond green and not kyrie? It doesn’t matter how much draymond impacted the game, kyrie was 10x as skilled and has post season success
Draymond is a top 5 GOAT defender.
Pete Maravich should be on the list.. big disagree low, big big disagree..
I was surprised Kyrie, Klay and Dwight all got left off, Kyrie one of the most gifted point guards of all time, klay literally the second or third best shooter of all time and Dwight was a monster. I like how he added draymond tho cause he really did change the small ball lineup in the NBA. I mean teams have done it before but Draymond was so good at being able to guard bigs using his intelligence and being able to impact the offense with his playmaking and helped spaced the floor
Kyrie being talented doesn’t mean he deserves to be on that list. He won a title. Beside that, what has he done that is too 75 worthy?
No dwight is crazy
Facts but Dame made it like how
How do you not add Alex English? But added TMac?
Jimmy butler? 5 time all star, 4 time all nba, 5 time all defensive team, great two way player, Leads every team he’s on he should be somewhere on this list in my Opinion
Not yet.HOF probably but not top 75 yet
Giannis didn’t even know Jason Kidd played in the nba. But he has a vote?😂
Draymond on this list is a bad take. Everyone else though fax
Draymond is solid but top 75. GMAFB, and Bosh??🦨👃 Pistol Pete and Adrian Dantley should have those 2 spots
Draymond is one of the most impactful players of the 2010s and has a much better peak the most players, including dame
@@reedfreida1215 the problem is there are way more impactful guys pre 2k. History of the game should be required to vote for this. A 50 question general NBA knowledge to qualify. Knowledge about the rule changes, and how it's almost a felony to play defense recently. I have a crazy suspicion that most All-Star players from the 70's-90's, would all have a bump in their PPG, FG%, and AST simply from the lack of tough physical D. That's just my take as NBA fiend since Tape Delays and the San Diego Clippers.#ThisGamesInTheRefridgeraror
@@nazztynatenugglife5891 draymond at his peak is easily a top 75 peak lol, impact wise comfortably into the top 50. You really think that non shooters from older eras would be MORE efficient in todays league relative to league average TS? I highly doubt that. PPG and APG vary based on era, just compare using per 100 or 75 stats.
@@reedfreida1215 non shooters, players shoot a better % while getting assaulted every game. No more hand check, no forearm shiver, no 5-sec count so ISO ball can be played. If someone sneezes on you now, you it 2 FT, they didn't have Flagrants 1 or 2. UA-cam McHale clotheslines Rambis, that was only 2 FT, no Flagrant, No ejection or Suspension. It was shut your mouth and shoot your 2. A lot of today's players are paper mache compared to old schoolers. Coupled with much softer Defenses, they would have an easier time on Offense. Also new players against old school defense, would have a tougher time because of the increased physicality and defense.
You said that some players are only on the list because of the fact they played with all time greats. Is that not the case with draymond, and to a lesser extent klay ?
The point is that they influenced basketball more than those other guys
Soooooo we just finna forget the original Windy City assassin himself…..DRose fam!!🌹😱
Not top 100
Career was litteraly 3 years
I agree with the list but honestly can someone give me a good reason why kyrie not top 75. Im confused
Always injured, teams in which he was the number one option either missed playoffs or did better without him, never received even 1 MVP vote, ever.
He isn’t top 75
Jimmy, PG & Dwight have been better for longer. I'd take Zo over him too.
@@hardwoodthought1213 okay but kyrie has been very good since he got in the league. When you think how the league top scorers is he not top 5
@@benjaminan1183 no I have to disagree. Howard deserves 75 im not questioning the list just how kyrie who has been good since a rookie,all nba team and is at least top in best scorer in league
@@hardwoodthought1213 Klay never even played as a first option but he got put in there lol. You think draymond is better than kyrie? How would a team with him as the best player look? I'd take kyrie over reggie miller too. The knicks series made him so overrated.
Okay I see where you are going with the Draymond and Klay thing, but I think it’s a stretch to say Draymond deserves it over Klay
This is by far the best list I’ve seen although I think you are missing Kyrie. Kyrie is one of the most skilled players ever at least like at the bare minimum he is top 10 most skilled.
What does skill mean if it doesn’t match the production? Y’all have to stop with that. Skill is the bare minimum requirement. It doesn’t mean anything in the grand context. U can be as talented as anyone, but u still need to
Produce. He has the one
Ring . That’s his saving grace. Besides that, it’s pretty bare for him individually.
no vince carter??
The disrespect is sickening. The same reasons he gave for why tmac should be in over dame is the same reason vinsanity should be on the list. Vince was probably the most popular player in the league for a few years. He literally has the most clutch/buzzer beaters of all time, if not very close. Greatest dunker all time period. Doesn’t make sense. Damn sure can’t have Chris bosh over Vince.
draymond for pistol pete? I dont know about that one chief
You forgot about Draymond Green’s unviseral undeniable skill in kicking people in the nuts😂
With that being said I 100 percent agree with the Tracy McGrady take. Best pure scorer in the history of the game. Kobe said it best when he said he was the hardest to guard. Dude put up 60 like it was 30.
No kyrie or Dwight wow
Yeah like how did Dame make it what has he done besides be a superstar player that loses in the 2nd round at most every year like there was more deserving players
@@destinedforgreatness3030 no one saying take out lmaoo , I would take out that nigga Dave bing first
I’m not surprised for Kyrie but Dwight cm’n now. 🤦🏾♂️
Dwight one is wild
Ion know about kyrie but Dwight 100% shoulda been on there
what chris bosh did to his career was called a sacrifice and he sacrificed his chance at the list by doing it he was a monster in Ronto tho
Draymond is not top 75 and he not over klay I’m sorry 😂
He definitely can be on the list with his career I’d put him at 75 but he deserves to be on there abs klay should be on there bc y is Dame on there
he just explained to you why he is stop being a hater
@@destinedforgreatness3030 dame shouldn't be on there
@@kofiboakye6173 I fully agree I said
@@Knownas_DonDada yeah like he is hated by people so they don’t wanna give him credit for how good he is bc they think bc he not a scorer he not good but has been a huge part of the team and the rings they got
Dame IS going into his 9th year of his prime right now... he actually literally fits your criteria.
Are you like 10 years old? Dame didn’t come into the league in his prime
U might be 10 cuz u obviously havent been watching that long my guy. I didnt mention his rookie year, even tho he stepped into the league being productive on playoff teams. 10 years of high level production including 25 ppg the last 8 not even including the current season thats ongoing. 6 x all star (robbed once or twice) 6 x all nba
Im not even a dame guy but my whole point is that dame literally fits his criteria of having longevity and 7+ years of prime level production. Which is factually true.
Now go scribble in a coloring book lol
@@canadadry4609 straight facts 🗣🗣🗣🗣
I think Kryie should still be on the list.
Facts
Hell no overrated
No
Yeah people need to chill with the Dwight Howard slander.
I feel like they hold Kobe calling D12 soft against him.
The fact that you put Draymond over Kyrie, VC, and Tony Parker makes you look like a 🤡
Not rlly, what did Rodman do that draymond didn't c'mon man. Kyrie hit a shot 😂. VC is great but he didnt have postseason success. Tony Parker is the only one that stands a question 😤.
🤡
@@ethanjacobson3121 more chips, more dpoy, more rebounding championships, more defensive first team selections (not saying he’s significantly better but u asked)
@@ethanjacobson3121 are u high? Rodman led the league in rebounding for damn near a decade. Lol.
@@ethanjacobson3121 Draymond was a 4th option there is no way I am taking anyone off the list to put him on
Low what is your reason for having PG over Vince Carter? Or a better question would be what is your reason for not having Vince Carter on the top 75
Probably due to postseason success and PG is a much better defender than Vince Carter. I feel like Vince should be on the list if we take off some of those old ass 60s players off the list
Besides Vince having 1 more allstar pg got better accolades and more playoff success
Kyrie has to be on the list
tony parker, pau gasol, and joe dumars are guys who should be above a lot of guys you mentioned. I just can't give it to Draymond because he benefits so much from his situation. Consistently being the third or fourth best player on your team, no matter how great you are in that role, it is a hard sell to make. Idk if he gets any of his accolades if he is on any other team. all three played major roles on championship teams while having many all star caliber years. the finals mvp's help out a lot too for the two guards. And Im not sure how you take Tiny out and put Tracy in. Both had similar 6 or 7 year peaks, and Tiny even made 3 all star teams after his Achilles injury.
Dame Lillard is definitely a greater player than Draymond Green. That's not even close. Pistol Pete should be on the list, too.
Impact is the only thing keeping pistol on that list. What has dame done that is significantly
Better than a defensive player of the year and 3 time champion? Be an all star? He’s a BETTER player for sure? But greater is debatable.
@@TheIcemanthomas exactly
A great way to reframe this list is, "How many other players could match their performance when they were playing?" If the average answer, across their peak, is worse than 10, then they probably do not belong on this list. I'm not familiar enough with a lot of these players, but after checking out a few names that seemed unlikely to me, I can confirm that there's probably a bunch of these guys who have no business being up here.
Low: requires a 7+ year prime to make list and claims damian lillard doesnt have the longevity required.
Dame: last 8 years not including this one is 25 ppg 6 x all star 6 x all nba , while also being snubbed once or twice of an all star selection.
I think people forget how long dame has been doing this and at how consistently a level.
DAME SHOULDNT MAKE THE LIST AND YOU KNOW THAT
@@MatthewWilliams-fx4ol yes tf he should
Except Dame is literally the offense if I get the green light to shoot and do whatever I should be a Allstar too
It’s not that Dame doesn’t deserve it but he doesn’t deserve it over names like Dwight, Klay, Draymond, etc;. Those guys have had postseason success, meanwhile Dame has 0 finals appearances, 1 bubble mvp thing, and
lead blowings to an injured Pelicans in 2018 and Warriors in 2019
Dame should be a 9 or 8 time all star he average 27 and 6 and didn’t make it
75th in PER: Rick Barry (Made top 75 list)
75th in WS/48: Steve Nash (Made top 75 list)
75th in WS: Carmelo Anthony (Made top 75 list)
75th in BPM: Ray Allen (Made top 75 list)
75th in VORP: Jack Sikma (Did not make top 75 list)
Love your takes 90% of the time but draymond over Damian is pretty crazy
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The point is what has Lillard achieved. Draymond has four titles and a DPOY. He is extremely impactful to what the warriors have done over the years.
Im sorry if this is disrespectful but who is Paul Arizin?