First of all, fantastic video. Due to previous disasters that I suffered in that river fording, I dismissed it as an option outright. Watching you pull it off was mind-blowing and extremely exciting. I expected you to high-center on that rock in the middle and you did. I once spent half an hour spinning the tires on my Fleetstar to get it off of that same rock. But the P16 delivered (pun intended) as it always does. While I'm on the subject, it became clear that the developers fully intended for the P16 to be employed in this task since it is introduced on the Drummond Island map. In fact, I immediately recognized its utility in hauling the construction trailer when I first discovered it as I'd had a terrible experience using the Fleetstar to haul the one in Black River. That experience was agony as the Fleetstars front wheels spent most of the time in the air and I had to make extensive use of the winch to make steering corrections. I love the Fleetstar -- overall best truck in the Michigan stage and I could wax lyrical but I won't, let me just say use it early and often --, but it just isn't enough truck for these heavy tasks. But the P16 is pure beast mode. It is brilliantly balanced such that its diff-locked rear-wheel-drive is more than adequate for even the worst of terrain. And it is as powerful as it is stable, which is to say extremely so. Its only shortcomings are that it is slow, it has the turning radius of a battleship, and that its wide track, which affords it that amazing stability, hinders it when negotiating narrow gaps between trees and rocks. Nevertheless, it shines as a workhorse for those heavy and oversized-load missions like Out With The Old. You analysis of the longer route down the mountain in Black River was spot on. The wood bridge was almost a disaster to negotiate. It took me over half an hour. The wheels on the right side of the trailer slipped off of the bridge early in the crossing, but I was able to stabilize with the winch, which brings up three useful tips. First, if you get the camera oriented properly, you can use the sides of the bridge itself as anchor points for the winch. This is nice because most of the trees are out of range. Second, there are attachment points along the top of the side of the construction trailer, which provide additional support against tipping. Third, when the winch is attached, you can reorient it to use different anchor points without having to release it first and risk having the trailer shift or flip over. You do this by revisiting the winch options in the Functions Menu while still attached. This enables you to "walk" the anchor point as you progress forward with the load. Regarding the 90 degree turn on the dam, you can get the trailer around it, but you have to line everything up perfectly and go as wide as you can with the P16 until the front right tire is scrubbing the guard rail. I took the long conservative route through the farm and logging camp and I did 98% of the entire trip in low gear. It took me over 4 hours! If I had lost the trailer toward the end, I honestly don't know if I would have had the motivation to reattempt. I tried to do the entire haul cleanly, but there were times when I simply had to use the winch to tug the tail of the trailer to the outside of tight corners where it was getting stuck on a tree, phone pole, or rock in the inside of the turn. In spite of its apparent high center of gravity, the construction trailer is surprisingly stable. In fact, it felt like it was unrealistically stable and I think the developers did that on purpose to make the task possible. TLDR: Use the P16, go the long way where it is flat and the road is as wide as possible. Make liberal use of the winch. Low gear is your friend. Stage your refueling points.
Josh! My man! Thank you for your in depth comment. Thoroughly enjoyed reading how much you enjoyed my video. I’ve been disheartened with UA-cam a little but comments like yours make the quiet spells more worthwhile. Im glad to know my content is appreciated. Means a great deal to me. Thank you. Im toying with the idea of doing some livestreams as I play through again on the PS5.. maybe UA-cam, maybe twitch, maybe tiktok… undecided yet but keep your eyes peeled if you’re interested. Have a great day buddy and enjoy your weekend.
@@nickyducky , that would be really cool! I found it very interesting and insightful to watch you make the mistakes that you did. And I found myself empathizing often as I watched the drama unfold. I really liked the nickname of "The Hulk" for the P16. In fact, I chuckled out loud when you mentioned it and knew immediately that your video was going to be good! I've always been interested in and fascinated by offroading (specifically rock crawling) and heavy machinery and have always possessed keen respect and admiration for truckers so, naturally, Snowrunner was appealing. But I never expected it to be as gratifying and addictive as it is. Saber did an outstanding job! The physics are good, the trucks are accurately modeled, the progression and upgrade trees are satisfying and rewarding, the scenery is beautiful and the terrain elements are realistic. At the same time, they tamed some the aspects of simulation and physics just enough to keep it from being tedious without sacrificing the element of panic-inducing and punishing moments of regret in the aftermath of poor decisions. My only gripe is not having the ability to pay out slack from the winches and losing my fully customized Fleetstar in a co-op session. I made the mistake of starting out in Hard Mode only to completely run out of fuel and money 20 hours in. Not having the tutorials really had a negative impact, but I'm looking forward to trying again now that I have become familiar with the mechanics of the game! Snuwrunner is fun to play with both the controller and with my Fanatec wheel, shifter, and pedals. With the latter, it is really fun to drive in the cockpit view, but I have to have the controller handy so that I can use the thumbstick to look around at the mirrors and out the windows. I got the game free with Game Pass, but I'm planning to purchase it and buy all of the DLC as a show of support to Saber and in hopes that we will get another sequel. Here's to hundreds of hours of additional Snowrunner action!
I think the designers of game planned for the players to take the river route, even thought other routes are possible too. After getting stuck in the river and restarting, I took the extremely long route, had 2 major bottlenecks, had to use the Cat 745C for help, and after several fuel refills and lots of winch pulls, finally delivered the damn thing. This mission left me with a PTSD.
Small tip for people leaving the dock area: use the right hand lane, so that the walkway on top of the trailer doesn’t get stuck on the gatehouse roof. I guess Yanks would do that anyway, but as an Aussie I exited using the left lane and had to wiggle the trailer a fair bit to get unstuck.
I attempted this mission last nigh and failed as follows. I didn't even get down to the house without a massive amount of winching along the way. And as you turned straight over the stumbs in the ground at the house, I thought for sure now the cargo will get stuck on those? I go stuck had to winch reverse, then winch some more, to even get down to the water. Then at the place in the water you got stuck and just backed out of it. I was literally stuck for hours, trying winching/craning with several more trucks from both side to get it moving. And as I got it moving, on the very last part before the little island at 33:30 in your video, I took the outer path with my truck there, as the path you took looked like it would get the trailer stuck. I saw starting to loose the trailer so I rushed in with two other trucks from either side trying to save it. But to no avail, I lost two trucks and cargo in the river, as I tried pulling/craning the truck with the cargo. Which mean I have to start the whole mission over. I'll have a go with the same truck you used. And I will not go into that mine field of stumps at the end. I did that mistake last night recon the place. I f***ing hate those stumps
@@nickyducky I managed to do it on my second attempt with P16, just like you did, minus the getting stuck on the stumps. I took a left turn at the beach and went in on the road, that mine field of stumps is just not worth the hassle.
I love watching these missions after I've completed them... Just did this, went the long way round with the P16, past the farm and the log area, only needed to winch once, and only needed fuel at the top of the hill. Pretty smooth. Would never have guess it would make it over the river
Thanks for the kind words. I really enjoy making these mission videos, I don’t get too many views right away so it always nice to hear that they’re enjoyed somewhere along the line
Lol I went the long way and went fine until I reached the farm next to the drill site and had to drag and wangle it through the trees 🌳 🌳 🏡 🌳 🌳 😭😭 Such a great feeling though when I got it there. Lol
Just finished it using your exact route across the river. Was going to go the long way, forgot about the 90° bend on the dam. Saved me a lot of trouble! Wasn't going to risk the river at first.
@@nickyducky It really is. A lot of people seem to just go at Snowrunner full on. A bit of finesse and forethought goes a long way, first tutorial I've seen for a while with someone playing it properly! Thanks again bud.
Crazy job,i did this using the main road with DAN because i like it's height at the front and power,also has AWD+DL and large fuel tank.😅 Pacific P16 is good but without AWD and with that kind of handling i struggle to steer and pull this thing on muddy places. Nothing too bad at all,the worst was that wood bridge in Smithville.
I got stuck trying to do that in that river. I even tried to take over with an AWD truck. I'm scared to do it again but I just want to finish this mission now.
Nice job dude. I didn’t say it would be impossible I said “nigh on impossible” The other issue I see is once you even make it around that curve you then have a very difficult park through the scrub to get to the job site too
Well that didnt quite go to plan. That huge rig became detached crossing the sunken rocks and I didn't even notice because I was concentrating too much on my front wheel placement on the rocks. Then my P16 got washed off the the rocks as I tried reversed to re hitch the trailer. Went back again and got washed off the rocks again as trailer has moved with the strength of the current and cant get close enough to the hitch to connect. Think I'm gonna have one more go before resetting back to start :( Got hitched this time but then P16 got washed off again and even though I managed to unhitch the rig a second later it was too late and both went to the bottom lol
I just bought the CAT heavy duty, tried this and got stuck on a hill just outside the port. Looks like P16 is the way to go but I'm not crossing that river. Edit: ok maybe the river is the best option..
@@nickyducky Scratched my head and tried to ram my P16 under the lip of the trailer for 5 min before giving up and finding you. Thanks for the reset tip. That alone was worth a sub and a thumbs up.
First of all, fantastic video. Due to previous disasters that I suffered in that river fording, I dismissed it as an option outright. Watching you pull it off was mind-blowing and extremely exciting. I expected you to high-center on that rock in the middle and you did. I once spent half an hour spinning the tires on my Fleetstar to get it off of that same rock. But the P16 delivered (pun intended) as it always does. While I'm on the subject, it became clear that the developers fully intended for the P16 to be employed in this task since it is introduced on the Drummond Island map. In fact, I immediately recognized its utility in hauling the construction trailer when I first discovered it as I'd had a terrible experience using the Fleetstar to haul the one in Black River. That experience was agony as the Fleetstars front wheels spent most of the time in the air and I had to make extensive use of the winch to make steering corrections. I love the Fleetstar -- overall best truck in the Michigan stage and I could wax lyrical but I won't, let me just say use it early and often --, but it just isn't enough truck for these heavy tasks.
But the P16 is pure beast mode. It is brilliantly balanced such that its diff-locked rear-wheel-drive is more than adequate for even the worst of terrain. And it is as powerful as it is stable, which is to say extremely so. Its only shortcomings are that it is slow, it has the turning radius of a battleship, and that its wide track, which affords it that amazing stability, hinders it when negotiating narrow gaps between trees and rocks. Nevertheless, it shines as a workhorse for those heavy and oversized-load missions like Out With The Old.
You analysis of the longer route down the mountain in Black River was spot on. The wood bridge was almost a disaster to negotiate. It took me over half an hour. The wheels on the right side of the trailer slipped off of the bridge early in the crossing, but I was able to stabilize with the winch, which brings up three useful tips. First, if you get the camera oriented properly, you can use the sides of the bridge itself as anchor points for the winch. This is nice because most of the trees are out of range. Second, there are attachment points along the top of the side of the construction trailer, which provide additional support against tipping. Third, when the winch is attached, you can reorient it to use different anchor points without having to release it first and risk having the trailer shift or flip over. You do this by revisiting the winch options in the Functions Menu while still attached. This enables you to "walk" the anchor point as you progress forward with the load.
Regarding the 90 degree turn on the dam, you can get the trailer around it, but you have to line everything up perfectly and go as wide as you can with the P16 until the front right tire is scrubbing the guard rail. I took the long conservative route through the farm and logging camp and I did 98% of the entire trip in low gear. It took me over 4 hours! If I had lost the trailer toward the end, I honestly don't know if I would have had the motivation to reattempt. I tried to do the entire haul cleanly, but there were times when I simply had to use the winch to tug the tail of the trailer to the outside of tight corners where it was getting stuck on a tree, phone pole, or rock in the inside of the turn. In spite of its apparent high center of gravity, the construction trailer is surprisingly stable. In fact, it felt like it was unrealistically stable and I think the developers did that on purpose to make the task possible.
TLDR: Use the P16, go the long way where it is flat and the road is as wide as possible. Make liberal use of the winch. Low gear is your friend. Stage your refueling points.
Josh! My man! Thank you for your in depth comment. Thoroughly enjoyed reading how much you enjoyed my video. I’ve been disheartened with UA-cam a little but comments like yours make the quiet spells more worthwhile. Im glad to know my content is appreciated. Means a great deal to me. Thank you.
Im toying with the idea of doing some livestreams as I play through again on the PS5.. maybe UA-cam, maybe twitch, maybe tiktok… undecided yet but keep your eyes peeled if you’re interested.
Have a great day buddy and enjoy your weekend.
Also, thanks for the tip on the winch! I didn’t know you could shift the anchor points that’s invaluable advice and will help massively!
@@nickyducky , that would be really cool! I found it very interesting and insightful to watch you make the mistakes that you did. And I found myself empathizing often as I watched the drama unfold. I really liked the nickname of "The Hulk" for the P16. In fact, I chuckled out loud when you mentioned it and knew immediately that your video was going to be good! I've always been interested in and fascinated by offroading (specifically rock crawling) and heavy machinery and have always possessed keen respect and admiration for truckers so, naturally, Snowrunner was appealing. But I never expected it to be as gratifying and addictive as it is. Saber did an outstanding job! The physics are good, the trucks are accurately modeled, the progression and upgrade trees are satisfying and rewarding, the scenery is beautiful and the terrain elements are realistic. At the same time, they tamed some the aspects of simulation and physics just enough to keep it from being tedious without sacrificing the element of panic-inducing and punishing moments of regret in the aftermath of poor decisions. My only gripe is not having the ability to pay out slack from the winches and losing my fully customized Fleetstar in a co-op session. I made the mistake of starting out in Hard Mode only to completely run out of fuel and money 20 hours in. Not having the tutorials really had a negative impact, but I'm looking forward to trying again now that I have become familiar with the mechanics of the game!
Snuwrunner is fun to play with both the controller and with my Fanatec wheel, shifter, and pedals. With the latter, it is really fun to drive in the cockpit view, but I have to have the controller handy so that I can use the thumbstick to look around at the mirrors and out the windows. I got the game free with Game Pass, but I'm planning to purchase it and buy all of the DLC as a show of support to Saber and in hopes that we will get another sequel. Here's to hundreds of hours of additional Snowrunner action!
I think the designers of game planned for the players to take the river route, even thought other routes are possible too. After getting stuck in the river and restarting, I took the extremely long route, had 2 major bottlenecks, had to use the Cat 745C for help, and after several fuel refills and lots of winch pulls, finally delivered the damn thing. This mission left me with a PTSD.
That's exactly what happened with me! 2 times got seriously stuck, and used the Cat for help. And I also flipped it over a couple of times as well.
@@KhaledAlfaris Which truck did you use?
@@Kinkoyaburi I used the White Western Star 4964
WOW awesome driving i thought you were nuts
Dude that crane idea was awesome!
An awesome quality video! Enjoyed every minute of it!
Thank you buddy, appreciate it!
Small tip for people leaving the dock area: use the right hand lane, so that the walkway on top of the trailer doesn’t get stuck on the gatehouse roof. I guess Yanks would do that anyway, but as an Aussie I exited using the left lane and had to wiggle the trailer a fair bit to get unstuck.
I’m British and I still used the right lane just because the map is based in America 😂
@@nickyducky so law-abiding!
I attempted this mission last nigh and failed as follows.
I didn't even get down to the house without a massive amount of winching along the way.
And as you turned straight over the stumbs in the ground at the house, I thought for sure now the cargo will get stuck on those?
I go stuck had to winch reverse, then winch some more, to even get down to the water.
Then at the place in the water you got stuck and just backed out of it.
I was literally stuck for hours, trying winching/craning with several more trucks from both side to get it moving.
And as I got it moving, on the very last part before the little island at 33:30 in your video, I took the outer path with my truck there, as the path you took looked like it would get the trailer stuck.
I saw starting to loose the trailer so I rushed in with two other trucks from either side trying to save it.
But to no avail, I lost two trucks and cargo in the river, as I tried pulling/craning the truck with the cargo.
Which mean I have to start the whole mission over.
I'll have a go with the same truck you used.
And I will not go into that mine field of stumps at the end.
I did that mistake last night recon the place.
I f***ing hate those stumps
Damn, dude! Sorry to hear you struggled so bad! Lol yeah the P16 is the way forward for this one I think
@@nickyducky I managed to do it on my second attempt with P16, just like you did, minus the getting stuck on the stumps. I took a left turn at the beach and went in on the road, that mine field of stumps is just not worth the hassle.
I love watching these missions after I've completed them... Just did this, went the long way round with the P16, past the farm and the log area, only needed to winch once, and only needed fuel at the top of the hill. Pretty smooth. Would never have guess it would make it over the river
Thanks for the kind words. I really enjoy making these mission videos, I don’t get too many views right away so it always nice to hear that they’re enjoyed somewhere along the line
Lol I went the long way and went fine until I reached the farm next to the drill site and had to drag and wangle it through the trees 🌳 🌳 🏡 🌳 🌳 😭😭 Such a great feeling though when I got it there. Lol
I’ve just driven the P16 to pick this up and mine is glitched as well. I’ll try the restart as you may have saved me driving up with a second truck 👍🏻
Great journey this one, really well made video too!
Thanks mate. Answered exactly what I came here for! Nice one. :)
Just finished it using your exact route across the river. Was going to go the long way, forgot about the 90° bend on the dam. Saved me a lot of trouble! Wasn't going to risk the river at first.
It’s a great route to take if you’re careful. Nice job dude
@@nickyducky It really is. A lot of people seem to just go at Snowrunner full on. A bit of finesse and forethought goes a long way, first tutorial I've seen for a while with someone playing it properly! Thanks again bud.
Crazy job,i did this using the main road with DAN because i like it's height at the front and power,also has AWD+DL and large fuel tank.😅
Pacific P16 is good but without AWD and with that kind of handling i struggle to steer and pull this thing on muddy places.
Nothing too bad at all,the worst was that wood bridge in Smithville.
Great content. I think this will make a great game to play at leisure time or when I am done losing battle Royale😂
Nice job bud, you sound like a sports commentator
I got stuck trying to do that in that river. I even tried to take over with an AWD truck. I'm scared to do it again but I just want to finish this mission now.
Have faith pal. You’ll get there
@@nickyducky thanks, I'll try! Halfway through Drummond Island at the moment 😩
i am amazed you did that crossing the river
Sometimes the best way is the unconventional one 😏
19:55 you have said that is implausible to turn on that dam curve. I just did it, the key is to take right as far as you can when approaching corner
Nice job dude. I didn’t say it would be impossible I said “nigh on impossible”
The other issue I see is once you even make it around that curve you then have a very difficult park through the scrub to get to the job site too
I have to drive through river cause a trailer got jammed into the bridge, restricting the passage. It was quite tedious to pull it on the steep.
I finished this last night with the Azov 64131. Easy peasy.
Well that didnt quite go to plan. That huge rig became detached crossing the sunken rocks and I didn't even notice because I was concentrating too much on my front wheel placement on the rocks. Then my P16 got washed off the the rocks as I tried reversed to re hitch the trailer. Went back again and got washed off the rocks again as trailer has moved with the strength of the current and cant get close enough to the hitch to connect. Think I'm gonna have one more go before resetting back to start :(
Got hitched this time but then P16 got washed off again and even though I managed to unhitch the rig a second later it was too late and both went to the bottom lol
I made a clip for ya lol
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Horror show¡
I just bought the CAT heavy duty, tried this and got stuck on a hill just outside the port. Looks like P16 is the way to go but I'm not crossing that river.
Edit: ok maybe the river is the best option..
P16 can cross the River you just have to take care. Go for it!!
@@nickyducky yeah I'll man up and do it. You gave me confidence lol
I though going all the way around but now I'm gonna try crossing the river. Wish me luck. Will have to use the P16 as well I guess
@@LifeVlogsbyChamika good luck buddy, you got this 💪🏻
My trailer was even getting stuck, just kept glitching and falling off. This was a real pain because of that.
Loved it when you said I think we made a terrible mistake and it turned out to pay off tremendously!!!
Ben yeah! Love it when that happens lol
Thanks mate. I'm having the same problem
WTF! I drove my P12 to the trailer and got the same problem as the saddle could not go under the trailer, and then you did it with magic!
Yeah, it seems to glitch the legs into the ground. Luckily when I pressed reset mission, it solved the problem!
@@nickyducky Scratched my head and tried to ram my P16 under the lip of the trailer for 5 min before giving up and finding you. Thanks for the reset tip. That alone was worth a sub and a thumbs up.
noncompliance thanks a lot man, I’ll give the shoutout to you in my next snowrunner video. 👍🏻
Back in on the side it works
Only p16 work with this? Fleestar F2070A with low saddle say trailer too far away😑
I think any truck will work but you have to use High saddle
If I were you...I will send my Scout plus Scout Fuel Trailer to Refuel P16 Truck. So you dont need to recover your truck back to garage
Fritz Adinata thanks for the comment. I’ve completed the game by now? But looking forward to playing the DLC maps
ive driven 4 different trucks with high saddle and still doesnt work, game is getting to the point of unplayable, smh
eric vazquez did you reset the mission though? It should fix it that way.
god i hate these fucking big trailers in this game those missions are awful
That truck is trash it doesn't even have awd lol
Doesn’t need it! Lol
@@nickyducky lol