Our Volvo C30 Takes Her First Steps Towards Slaying The Civic Type R With A Downpipe & Exhaust
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Our trip to the dyno was fairly successful. The car is healthy and we put up some fairly impressive numbers. Problem is the numbers were nowhere near impressive enough to take down the mighty Honda Civic Type R. How do you fix that? By adding more power, in this case in the form of Elevate's 3" turbo back exhaust! Here's our full install and product overview.
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You guys need a better mic!
I think it would help if some of your explanations weren't so long winded. Especially about the downpipe, I could've gotten wasted if I took a shot every time you said flow. Lol. Otherwise I'm excited to see more progress with the build!
Caleb Baker yes, and maybe show footage of working on the car, including the sizes of the bolts. It gives us a good idea what it'll take to do the job
10mm 13mm 14mm. Ratcheting box wrenches are a huge help.
ShiftingLanes thanks man, love this series! Looking forward to dyno day
I'm a C30 owner myself and loving this series. I'm currently looking to do some mods to mine with Elevate parts too.
Great content, Chad!
Thanks for watching!
Alot of UA-cam Producers and directors on the comments today, how about enjoy the free content its youtube not Speednetwork. Your doing a hell of a job guys keep it up.
Thanks Jon! With more viewers comes better produced content. We’ll get there. Appreciate all the feedback and you guys all watching!
Great video! Wow you can really hear that turbo now! The 5 cylinder howl is so unique and almost a Volvo signature sound.
Can't wait to see the short throw shifter!
you guys got me to like volvo now lol i just bought my first 2002 volvo s60r
2002 S60R doesnt exist.... they didnt come out til 04.. nice try tho
Sounds like a baby v10 as always ;)
Just put on the elevate exhaust on my R Design. it was crystal clear i need a downpipe too :)
Just bought a c30 today! You guys are going to be my roadmap for mods.
Sweet!!!
Couple suggestions after learning some things.
After the exhaust, fmic and tune... get an lsd.
Dont bother with a cai (stock makes more power anyway, less heat soak)
Get coilovers sooner rather than later. Makes an amazing difference over the stock setup.
I am having SO much fun watching these vids. Inspired build idea and like the overall practical non pretencious style. My vote is except for exhaust note, stay sleeper. This is my plan for vw r32t daily. Good luck civic slaying. Guaranteed you will have a cooler car.
Dude it’s a copy of my car awesome!! definitely subscribed I wanna know more, I have turbo back straight pipe, intake, elevate intake manifold, new tcv boost controller and elevate tune on mine loved to know the numbers on that. Been plagued with axle issues with mine for quite a while now (which now I see it has too, but mine is prob worse cause it’s lowered ) but can’t wait 👍🏽
Maybe could get some Quick jacks? These 5cyl have such a unique sound. I love it. I think y’all need to get a better mic for sound quality
Great job like always guys
Great choice going with elevate and a good job on the tutorial👍
Pretty good video guys but I’ve got to say someone between the three of you needs to figure out what’s going to be said in the videos. So much time was waisted on long winded explanations that do not make much sense. Last of all chad stop being a “fanboy chad” talking about Honda killer, just build a sick c-30 because there aren’t many of them being built to begin with. Keep up the great content.
Not fanboy at all. That’s the point of the build. See the VR build as well.
On S40 T5 AWD those two bolts on top were the easiest to do from top with heat shield removed. The lowest one... impossible :)
Anyone have more info on Don developing a CARB legal downpipe?
i wanna go back and count how many times dude says flow and elevate haha
Uk subscriber here.
Lucky enough to own a 2007 Ford Focus ST which has the same motor as your C30. Mine currently runs 305bhp 340 lbs-ft at the crank.
Mods include Milltek 3" manifold back decat exhaust, K & N cold air intake, GGR racing turbo pipes and a Collins performance CP320 remap.
Question... Have you had the block modification work done or is the cylinder issue not known about in the US?
The cylinder issue is very well known. I'm looking into the block mod down the road.
Sounds great!
Long term how has the elevate exhaust performed?
Sounds awesome NOW 👌
3 inch is for flow, but that cat is going to eliminate a lot of the flow and create a lot of back pressure.
Do elevate tune please!!! I kind of want it for my car. Volvo c70 same t5 engine
Next week!
hi again chad you need to watch banks performance. he shows the best way to add power is to use cold air and why.
if you guys are really going for power, why not a catless dp to provide the best flow? I also have elevate’s exhaust for my v50 as well (straight pipe is too obnoxious for me) but I went with a different supplier for the downpipe because I didn’t want a cat. I could see how backpressure and flow rate would be a problem if you weren’t already planning on tuning it, but since you are wouldn’t it make most sense to not restrict the downpipe to help turbo spool? Elevate even offers a tune that takes catless downpipe into consideration if you’re dead set on elevate products
All fair points. Personally I want to keep the car legal. Plus we have a lot of power mods planned so the few hp were losing with the cat were going to more than make up for down the road.
@@ShiftingLanes Why not go for a high flow 3in catted dp? You'd allow more exhaust to escape while still being legal.
as long as you're not in california, which prohibits ANY modifications to the downpipe-regardless of what Elevate may claim (I lived there for 18 years so I'm quite familiar w/ modification laws) because starting in 2019 they will have strict visual inspection laws and prohibit any alteration to a cars emissions system, you could just as easily swap the stock downpipe in by the time emissions comes around like I did here in Colorado a couple weeks ago? I guess since you chopped it up that may be out of the question now, but I was able to pull mine out by just blasting and unscrewing the bolts (maybe because I have awd and fitment could be different?) I'm not trying to be a pessimist, I'm a big supporter of this project and elevate's products; just curious about your guys' logic behind it if your goal is more power!
A few years back I saw tests on back to back dynos of a stock ceramic cat Vs a high flow metal cat vs no cat and the power difference was minimal. Factory cat to high flow was around 4 WHP gain and high flow cat to no cat was 1 WHP gain IIRC. So based on the test that I saw from that test comparison is the only thing you really gain from no cat is a cost savings of the cat.
@@ShiftingLanes fair enough. keep up the good work on the build!
Sounds great! :D
i'm js but you shouldn't just slap an exhaust on and tune it...in order for it to be a civic type R slaying c30 you should do more performance parts first to gain power and then do the tune Last. If plan to add more performance parts after the tune the tune would just be a waste because its not incorporating the new parts and a retune would be necessary to gain more power. If you planned to not go any further hp/tq wise then idk how it will kill the type R
You have to tune for each part you slap on, especially before the MAF and anything that would increase power. This is also a daily so it’s not going to sit idle while waiting on parts. No one should just put parts on that would jeopardize the engine. Multiple tunes are necessary if we, or anyone, are doing a build in stages, which we are.
@@ShiftingLanes the only parts that would jeopardize the engine that you put on without tuning for immediately are big hitters like bigger injectors, bigger turbos, internal engine parts, etc but i understand your route and wanting to play it safe nothing wrong with that, good luck with the build also I don;t remember correctly what year they fixed it but beware axles tend to be a problem for the early P1 volvos.
Put a 19t on it :-) Mine is doing well on my 98 V70 Xc with aftermarket front mount IC and blow off valve. Waste gate actuator is also upgraded
@@mcgherkinstudios or a TTE490
mcgherkinstudios Yeah but you can get T3 and T25 manifolds for under $400 for the 2.5 T5
@@willriley1619 The issue when dealing with the C30 is space between the back of the engine and the firewall. Not much room at all.
@@rehma6b0 yeah that's why most aftermarket manifolds are cast iron log style
@@willriley1619 That's what im trying to say, even going to a log style manifold, you can only go so big before you run out of space
hi chad have you thought of a short throw shifter.
Multiple times. Sadly nobody makes one anymore.
@@ShiftingLanes The Focus ST225 shifter from the Euro spec 06-11 Ford Focus will work. You can the Collins short shifter on eBay for £45.00 You can have any of your UK fans or friends ship it out to you.
@@ShiftingLanes Snabb still makes one for the p2 models, I'm sure they could come up with something for it
very good quality content, original idea of a car project BUT surprisingly poor audio/video quality and filming.... :/ I believe you could do better guys :)
I'm working on fixing that. Should have new gear early in the new year.
But what about elevate's 3.5 inch downpipe?
Why did you saw off the original? It is expensive...
Makes a ton of difference that exhaust when you have it tuned in!
Simply put, that was the simplest way to remove it.
There is literally no way to remove the back end of the exhaust without cutting it, it's dumb design but that's just how it is. Speaking from experience with my C30.
So you still have the factory exhaust? I am looking to buy
Be glad it’s not AWD. You would really be cursing if it was. Sucks about the tips. Elevate should consider using higher quality clamps and tighter fitting slip joints.
I was told by multiple people including Elevate themselves that I would likely need to weld the tips.
-Chad
At least they gave you a heads up that their products would need extra work.
Great exhaust kit when the tips doesnt fit.
If you leave the cat I Rekon it will only make 10 BHP extra
so ,,, after all the bigging up elevates exhaust , it actually isnt fit for purpose as you have to go and get it welded ,,, hve elevate sorted out this problem would you know , seeing your working closely with them , or did they offer a solution , curious now before i spend some hard earned
In hindsight they didnt actually need to be welded. If I had the right impact they would have been fine. Its suggested you spot weld the tips so they never sag, but not required.
Thst being said I could not be happier with the exhaust. By far the best mod so far.
id have been in with a couple of stainless rivets to work as sheer pins , and be easily removable if needed ,,, just a thought
I have a 2013 volvo c30 T5 R-Design Premier Plus
would you know what would be causing a clunking noise at rear of car when i go over bumps ?
Likely a bad bushing of some kind.
@@ShiftingLanes My 08 C30 did same. Check rear control arms (cheap replacement) and sway bar bushings. Also cheap fix.
Forgot: sway bar end links too.
hi cody, i contacted you about a short throw shifter for the c-30. well i need short throw for my c-30. ive been looking all over the place. i went to your parts guy. i guess as you did to and nothing. well i continued to look mainly cause i sit in an almost laying down, very similar to an f-16 pilot. any way i have to almost sit up to shift. any way swedespeed.com has a short throw shifter for the trans in the c-30.
Thanks for the update
Anyone Have an Idea ?
Sounds kinda quiet.
Hi Chad, I'm curious to find out what was your impressions on the way the c30 reacted and pulled on the road without a tune with the 3" exhaust from Elevate. Also any issues at idle after a few spirited drives, no engine warning light and last question did you noticed if the car was running really rich (a lot of carbon at the tips) Thanks, I have a c30 by the way, with a few goodies from Elevate and a Polestar tune. Keep updating ;) Thanks
Volvo runs rich from the factory FYI.
@@Dubst3pT3ch All the manufacturers do... Runing a turbocharged engine too close from stochiometric will be asking for trouble FYI. I'm talking from previous experiences!
why a civic type R. they have no sound to start with
It's more a performance benchmark. If the c30 can end up close to the type r that's one hell of a performance machine... That looks and sounds better.
@@ShiftingLanes ah ok. i think the civic type R needs a better exhaust like what the golf R has. the thing is to quit so im sure u wont get mutch sound unless you go with a different muffler
I have a question, my knowledge of turbo cars a very limited , so he goes. Why are turbos mounted so close to the exhaust manifold? I would have thought if the were placed a bit further away,? it would give time for the air to cool a little, increasing the pressure and make the turbo spin faster.
Colder exhaust gas equals lower pressure.
Because there's less pressure further down the stream. Having the turbo right close allows for these smaller engine cars to spool more quickly. You do see rear mounted turbos in some race type applications but it's generally when it's paired to a car with a big engine that has exhaust pressure for days and helps to save space in the engine bay itself.
Less turbo lag. The further away the turbo is from the engine = more turbo lag.
Before you mod too far look at doing a block mod. Cracked liners would be pretty well much game over 🙁
Are sure that the aftermarket exhaust has the same back pressure as the original?
Otherwise the stock engine mapping will be off and that may lead to a loss of power or torque and efficiency, as the car is optimized for that exact back pressure.
In a worst case scenario changing the exhaust back pressure may lead to the engine knocking.
You don’t need to tune for anything exhaust related after the MAF, but this car will be tuned Monday anyway. Back pressure is fine. So no worries 🙂
He's got a cat, he's fine. Catless cars are recommended to be tuned, but it isn't really a requirement. The MAF and BPS will account for any change in turbo spool, catted or catless. The car just can't do it quite as good as a dedicated tune. It'll run great!
Troll much? Back pressure in the exhaust changes with flow the ecu is always making adjustments even w/o tune. its fine. ecu manages constant changes in operating conditions.
WTF are you on about?
@@phil955i it is quite simple when you think of it, Bensinen I motorn säger pang, när tändstift en tänds och biprodukterna åker ut genom avgassystemet, mäts först upp av en "Lambda sond", sedan passerar avgaserna genom katalysatorn, som renar avgaserna något och sedan ut genom resten av systemet.
Och detta med ett visst tryck.
And the pressure is important as it is a direct result of how much fuel the engine is burning and the resistance of the exhaust system.
A "after market" exhaust can be great.
But it may have some interesting and some times unwanted effects, like the ones I mentioned above.
The stock tune is optimized for that back pressure found in the original "OEM" "stock" Volvo exhaust.
Which means that the car in it's current state is unoptimized.
Yo can you check out my Volvo s40 for me
There's gonna need to be a lot of steps......
FLOW
Turboback = good Emissions equipment = bad
All about flow...in to a cat.
You’re giving up like 4 crank hp. That’s not going to make a difference and as stared in the video legality is paramount.
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Sounds like shit...congrats