BR in the 1980s Toton Yard in 1988 & 1991 Part Two
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Back in the 1980s and early 1990s I made frequent visits to the Nottingham and East Midlands area to film the dying "MGR" services (Merry Go Round) trains which fed the various hungry Power Stations in the area. Most particularly the surviving large yard and sidings at Toton. Most of the "MGR" traffic was hauled then by pairs of class 20 locomotives or class 58 locomotives and some by 56 class locomotives. The occasional traffic from Bescot was handled by class 31 locomotives and workings from the North class 37 or 60 locomotives. In a usual day no less than 6 different loco classes could be seen in traffic, but mainly the area was dominated with "MGR"s feeding the nearby Ratcliffe-on-Soar Power Station. I have put together film which has been digitally converted from primitive VHS format into 2 parts covering Toton and 1 film I made on a short visit to Worksop Station as seen in the recent preview. Most of the footage was taken in 1991 but the first part was filmed in 1988.... This second part was filmed entirely throughout 1991 and includes a short view of a line up of scrapped and retired Locomotives and a 1st generation DMU. This video features 45 loco hauled trains of which 29 are MGR's and 55 locomotives in many types of liveries of that era. I thoroughly hope you enjoy watching and it evokes memories of times gone by.
Locomotives featured in this part: 20007 20010 20016 20032 20040 20071 20073 20075 20081 20082 20084* 20096 20104 20135 20143 20169 20170 20187 20190 20194 20196 20197 20210 20214 25209* 31105 31116 31134 31533 31537 37051 37202 37422 37688 45015* 47125 47332 47362 56004 56012 56014 56016 56023 56026 56027 56042* 56048 58014 58015 58022 58028 58041 58042 58043 58046 58048 60033 60052 also features sandite unit T001 (975540) and sprinter 150101.
Excellent series of videos. Takes me back to my teenage years seeing double headed class 20's, 47's, 56's & 58's hauling MGR's down the Hatton Bank as they headed towards Didcot Power Station. Also seeing the liveries on the locos change through the years from BR blue through to railfreight & then the various sectors. Then they changed to Mainline, Transrail & Loadhaul and eventually EWS took over. Also seeing the old loco's be withdrawn & replaced with new locos like the Class 66 & 67.
Many thanks John......Remember it all well....you're comment is Much appreciated.....Mark
thanks again. choppers were the main workhorses for 50 years and still going strong outliving most of 58s and some 56s.
best wishes to you Caroline....Mark
By gum it certainly has got my brain going seeing the locos following one another. Me & my mate went to Stapleford & Sandiacre station in 1965 from Cudworth via Sheffield. We saw loads of peaks 47's & 20's on the slow lines all backed up to one another for miles, all pulling 16 ton coal wagons.
We even got round the sheds and saw where the beyer garatts used to be shed.
Saw 4 of the early peaks 1 to 10 as you didn't see them around us.
Great video Looks like it was shot from the other end of the Marshalling yards.
Will be going through them one by one.
Many thanks for your interest Ernest.....Much appreciated....Mark
A favourite location of mine too Rick.....my best regards to you.....Mark
Excellent, had to watch again for the umpteenth time. A Nostalgia drug for me, in the days of Snorkel Parka, Cords & DM's sneaking around the Depot/Yards and the beauty of the Nottinghamshire Romanians feat. Electroputere 56 Grids.
Many thanks Rick....my best regards to you and may the memories flourish.......Mark
FANTASTIC ! This is sacred ground, many happy memories from 35+ years ago, my ashes will be spread here.
I did many trips to Sandiacre TOTON yard i was about 15-16 & ill never forget all the rows & rows of 45's all condemned, some in good condition, i couldnt understand it. Very sad 😢😢
Many thanks Kevin...Yes I did sneak a walk to view the rows of derelict "Peaks" It was sad I agree.....Best regards to you....Mark
This is mindblowing!!! Even the close-up clunking and buffering of the HAA's. Also amazed at them MGR's following each other, never seen that before! Memories. Thanks a lot :D
You're very welcome,much appreciated.....it really was that busy at times......again many thanks.....Mark
Yes it did bring back a lot of good memories pity how Toton yard has gone now brilliant video and thanks for sharing the goods times at Toton with us.
You are most welcome.......Mark
Even the Class 60s are about finished, incredible as to how much has changed on the rail scene in the last 25 years, or, so. And to see those 3 MGR trains running within 40 feet of each other is something that we'll never see again, wonderful memories thanks a lot for sharing them with us all, more videos please, if you have anything suitable from the olden days.
Many thanks Richard, The 3 MGR's behind one another is called Permissive Block working, I am not sure whether that has been ruled out, but it was fairly frequent in those days. So glad it brought back memories and yes I do still have tons to post from this era both from the UK and Continent, I will get round to it eventually, thanks again.....Mark
Another excellent video. I found the MGRs running v close together fascinating. I was unaware this occurred. One of these things I would not have believed had I not seen it! Am guessing easier to do with empties than fully loaded rather rakes. Reminded me of the fiddle yard at the model railway clubs layout where we have up to 4 trains per track.
These are great thank you
You are very welcome and many thanks....Mark
Great video.... brings back great memories with some great motive power.Keep them coming.
I will try to keep a steady flow coming Jeremy...much appreciated and best wishes....Mark
absolutely wonderful.
honestly loved every minute of it, great memories.
Thanks for uploading these videos.
If you ever put them on DVD please let me know as I'd happily buy a copy (or two) of them.
You are very welcome, many thanks for your appreciation, I will get to upload more archive material, working on a feature of the Caledonian Sleepers from 1990s to the present day.....best regards....Mark
really enjoyed that my friend, didnt realise how much coal we actually used in those days. nice vid Mark.10/10. hope you have lots more.
cheers TOM
Many thanks Tom, I have a little bit more but I chose to put the best cuts into the video, otherwise too much repetition...loads more on other locations from that era to still convert to Digital...much appreciated once again....Mark
looking forward to seeing other vids mate. great stuff.cheers TOM
I will get around to it..eventually.......but meanwhile my best regards to you...Mark
Another great video. Well done.
Many thanks, hope it was not too long.....Mark
Sorry Mark.
Well done. On another great video.
Many thanks HK......I'm getting confused with Google vs UA-cam so forgive me if you get duplicated replies....best regards....Mark
you are not the only one.
nice talking to you.
All the best.
Great vid
Many thanks Swearingkevo....I too very much enjoy your videos......best regards....Mark
Hi there. do you have any footage of my old area of worksop.?
Brilliant video I spent a lot of my youth just watching those trains there. Any chance of you doing another Peak Forest? Lol
Many thanks Denis...... I have a little of Peak Forest but it is more up to date (2015) ....I will get round to posting more archive material, still waiting for an update on my internet connection.....again thanks for watching....Mark
Great video ;)
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You are most welcome, many thanks....Mark
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greetings :D
Will do....best regards....Mark
I have and it is excellent....many thanks......Mark
Brake vans on MGR's? Was this because there was a propelling move involved or something?
It possibly could be, or maybe it was just a convenient stock movement. I have not really looked into the reason....many thanks Supersonic8984....Mark
47:20 Working the Denby branch. Two guards / shunters (one in each brake van), one to open the manual crossing gates and another to close the gates behind. There were about 5 sets of gates to operate, most were little used village roads but Rawson Green was a busy road and the traffic would not stop. This was made worse by the run around points requiring the gates just to poke the nose end of the loco onto the road which really annoyed the motorists. Later on the brake vans were dispensed with and one shunter would use an Astra van and work remotely to open and close the gates.
What’s an M G R
The MGR trains were Merry Go Round Trains that ran virtually to the power stations delivering coal and then to the collieries to fill up again. Mainly seen in the Midlands and Wales where there were still collieries.....These trains were mainly made up of consists of around 30+ hopper wagons.....Other viewers may have a more accurate description....Best regards....Mark
I stopped watching after 5 minutes the music was too depressing great footage though👍
Yes maybe.....depressing the thought the trains are no longer with us...best wishes....Mark
@@spompey Not knocking the video though mate excellent👍