Fractal NORTH XL Review - What Happened!?

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @uff3511
    @uff3511 5 місяців тому +169

    I think that people who usually buy this case, will not change anything- they dont want rgb, any modding, anything else. Just an case for adults with not so much time and modern design.

    • @GytisFPS
      @GytisFPS 5 місяців тому +16

      Exactly the reason why I got my North XL 😎

    • @jamesconley6919
      @jamesconley6919 5 місяців тому

      Thats dumb af I'm an adult 38 I have this case with rgb wtf u talking bout

    • @CodeCube-rv1rm
      @CodeCube-rv1rm 5 місяців тому +7

      That's me, white with tempered glass, sporting tasteful black components inside, including an arctic liquid freezer III AIO and black noctua fans

    • @LiveActionKimPossibleRufus
      @LiveActionKimPossibleRufus 4 місяці тому +6

      Yeah real talk I got ADHD and if I can see the pretty lights from my computer they're gonna distract me. 😫

    • @Guillemod
      @Guillemod 3 місяці тому

      Exactly!!!

  • @tidjane2001
    @tidjane2001 6 місяців тому +336

    We want a smaller North lol

    • @PATRK55
      @PATRK55 6 місяців тому +24

      Itx north now

    • @EmperorGreymon
      @EmperorGreymon 6 місяців тому +6

      I was coming here to post the same thing lmao

    • @MrPacman64
      @MrPacman64 6 місяців тому +9

      Nah bigger the better

    • @stennan
      @stennan 6 місяців тому +36

      mATX, good compromise. I live in the same town as their main office, perhaps I should pay them visit and hand over a petition? 😂

    • @84jdgregory
      @84jdgregory 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@stennan that would be perfect since they already have the Terra itx.

  • @georgejones5019
    @georgejones5019 6 місяців тому +180

    I'd love for them to make a North in an ITX form factor.

    • @vensroofcat6415
      @vensroofcat6415 6 місяців тому +6

      Their ITX North would have the size of decent mATX case and shifted one slot short to actually fit one. Looking at you, Torrent mini 🧐

    • @MaheerKibria
      @MaheerKibria 6 місяців тому +9

      feel like they did itx with wood accents right with the Terra, I don't think I would want the north as an ITX case.

    • @maximus3294
      @maximus3294 6 місяців тому +2

      @@vensroofcat6415 i hope that fractal moves on from that kind of case in favor of a more space-optimized approach. the terra and ridge were both good starts. maybe they could modify the north's design to become something like the ncase m1 or nr200. the mesh side panel would lend itself very well to that kind of design.

    • @vensroofcat6415
      @vensroofcat6415 6 місяців тому +4

      @@maximus3294 I would have bought Torrent mini. If it could actually fit mATX. Have been a fan of mATX for almost 2 decades, tried ITX twice, made custom chassis... not convinced. mATX has a lot more room for SSD, connectors, better price, etc. ITX doesn't save any room with modern GPU these days. 95% wasted. Only thing I like about ITX is CPU being closer to rear panel thus you can redesign airflow slightly better. But it's niche.

    • @Nightykk
      @Nightykk 6 місяців тому +1

      There's the Fractal Design Terra, which isn't too far from it, I suppose?

  • @sevsnk3043
    @sevsnk3043 6 місяців тому +96

    Fractal south. Make this a reality Fractal.

    • @YudaHnK
      @YudaHnK 6 місяців тому

      Colab with Shin x Southern Cross from hokuto no ken

    • @raith3700
      @raith3700 6 місяців тому +1

      Its just an inverted North

    • @sevsnk3043
      @sevsnk3043 6 місяців тому +2

      @@raith3700 U turn the standard Fractal North upside down then? 🤔

    • @AbiRizky
      @AbiRizky 6 місяців тому +2

      Just put it upside down man

    • @user-tf4ho2uo1e
      @user-tf4ho2uo1e 6 місяців тому +1

      Tiki edition with balsa wood

  • @argmarius
    @argmarius 6 місяців тому +111

    Here i was hoping for a Fractal Design mix between North and Terra.

    • @TecraX2
      @TecraX2 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, an ITX or mATX case that small, but not super small (around 20-25L), thereby enabling eg. Air Cooling with a decently tall cooler. Not everyone who buys a higher tier CPU, also wants a GPU so large and heavy that you need to buy separate supports in order to prevent it from sinking to the center of the earth... Given the lack of 3.5" and 5.25" bays in today's larger chassis, I don't think I'm the only one who wants something in-between the shoebox sized ITX cases and the building sized "Gaming" ATX cases!

    • @argmarius
      @argmarius 6 місяців тому +1

      @unholydonuts let's hope it won't be a design like the previous Nano cases, which defeats the itx/sff purpose.

  • @rs2581
    @rs2581 6 місяців тому +28

    I love how they made it both wider and taller, it really makes it a nice xl compared to just tall, weird xl cases.

  • @dreamEnd
    @dreamEnd 6 місяців тому +26

    Looks interesting. The reason why I avoided North was because its too small.
    But damn, that noise issue might be a dealbreaker, especially for an high end pricetag case.

    • @AO-yo1ke
      @AO-yo1ke Місяць тому

      who runs thier fans at 1800 rpm anyway ?!

    • @dreamEnd
      @dreamEnd Місяць тому

      ​@@AO-yo1ke
      It's hard to calculate real life fans usage because of multiple factors, and sound level meter being unable to capture low noise.
      So people uses 1800 rpm as a reference for lower speeds.
      The logic is that; If fans "A" + case "A" runs quieter than fans "B" + case "B" on max rpm, then fans A + case A will run quieter on lower noise than fans B + case B.
      It might not exactly a big deal, but this is an $150+ case. Low thermals and low noise should be the standard.

  • @JYMBO
    @JYMBO 6 місяців тому +12

    The metal accents on the black version should have been Copper not Brass & the the metal accents on the white version should have been Brass not Silver... would complimented the wood colour much better

  • @apricanephoto
    @apricanephoto 6 місяців тому +22

    I was hoping for an mATX form factor case lol.

    • @guccipucci69420
      @guccipucci69420 6 місяців тому +1

      Why would they do that when they have the Terra??

    • @apricanephoto
      @apricanephoto 6 місяців тому

      @@guccipucci69420 The Terra is ITX only, so I don't see how an mATX case would compete with it. They already have some in that form factor (mATX), their designs are just getting old.

    • @guccipucci69420
      @guccipucci69420 6 місяців тому

      @@apricanephoto you’re correct. Maybe check out the Corsair 2500?

  • @mauticom
    @mauticom 6 місяців тому +16

    I already had the fan bracket noise issue in my otherwise beautiful Meshify 2. I just put some tape over it and it helped or you could replace the 140mm fans with 120mm so nothing overlaps, but this isn't perfect either. It's time for a design update in this regard.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  6 місяців тому +10

      100%! With Lian Li and Phanteks so far ahead in this area, i'm honestly surprised we dont see a removable and OPEN front fan bracket on the XL.
      -D.

    • @paul2609
      @paul2609 6 місяців тому +4

      Same, my Meshify 2 is very noisy only because of the fan bracket, I use the Noctua fan offset bracket and that helped a lot.

    • @user-oe3mo6vq8b
      @user-oe3mo6vq8b 6 місяців тому

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    • @Troynex
      @Troynex 2 місяці тому

      @@HardwareCanuckswhich case is the Best airflow case for a 4080 super and noctua nh-d15 With a ryzen 7800x3d?

  • @nikolaykarpuzov5320
    @nikolaykarpuzov5320 6 місяців тому +7

    I laughed out loud seeing the side panel flexing and then remembering my old lady 3/4mm thick aluminium side panel.

  • @abb0tt
    @abb0tt 6 місяців тому +28

    I’ve watch three reviews of the XL today, and you are the only one that called out key issues IMO. I was planning on switching to the XL, but the turbulence caused by the front panel at higher RPMs has left me rethinking the purchase. I hope the Torrent line gets a new release this year, because ultimately I care about airflow and noise more than I do aesthetics.
    I’d love to see less USB-A on the panel-perhaps 1:2 port ratio in favor of USB-C instead of the current 2:1. I do love the color matched USB, nice touch!

    • @bosco9028
      @bosco9028 6 місяців тому +12

      Nothing wrong with this case champ. You will never run the fans at full speed and don't need too. Any case where you run 140's or 120's at full speed well over 1100rpm will exhibit terrible noise.

    • @paul2609
      @paul2609 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@bosco9028When I'm doing UE5 compilation or path trace rendering my 13900KS will go to 90C and my fans at 100 percent. There are always certain cases where you need 100 percent fan speed. Just because you only play games doesn't mean others don't use their PC for actual work.

    • @abb0tt
      @abb0tt 6 місяців тому

      @@bosco9028 you seem to know a lot about my system usage…
      Outside of my home lab hardware, my gaming PC also serves as a machine learning node. Thermal and noise performance are key factors when the door is closed in my home office. I want performance when it is required, and I loathe-and neurologically sensitive to-unnecessary noise. That’s why I have replaced every fan in every server with Noctua-everything is optimized. The noisy rigs are in the basement lab.
      Different strokes for different folks.

    • @N3v3r_S3ttl3
      @N3v3r_S3ttl3 6 місяців тому

      They probably kept the 2:1 ratio for USB ports because there are still a lot of peripherals using USB A instead of USB C.
      The stock fans (Fractal Design Apex 14 PWM) are loud on the regular Fractal Design North too, but as top exhaust with a customized fan curve they're a bit more silence.
      I bought a 5-pack Artic P12 PWM fans to replace them. Sure 140mm vs 120mm is not that fair, but 120mm in theory should be louder because of higher RPM to move the same amount of air.

    • @akrovolistis8996
      @akrovolistis8996 6 місяців тому +4

      @@bosco9028 Exactly what i was thinking, the whole point of 140s is good airflow are lower rpm. Mine are at 600rpm, 800 if it gets really hot so i don't think it's an issue at all.

  • @marinipersonal
    @marinipersonal 6 місяців тому +8

    If there was a bigger gap between the front panel and the fans that would be much quieter. I’m using the regular North, and the T30 fans. A tight fit, but the only fan that can move enough air and stay dead silent. Only going for the XL when Phanteks release the 140mm T30.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah the T30s are incredible. Might swap into my next system.
      -D.

    • @Troynex
      @Troynex 2 місяці тому

      @@HardwareCanuckswhich is the Best case for a good airflow? I got a etc. 4080 super and a ryzen 7800x3d and a noctua nh-d15. Which case should i buy ?

  • @semtexxl4023
    @semtexxl4023 6 місяців тому +7

    Exactly the same problems with my Meshify 2 case. The fan mounting position from behind is making really annoying hum. The only solution is to use 120mm fans or like in my case dremel the 120mm positions out permanently which worked wonderfully. It has been reported many many times to Fractal yet they don't bother to fix it. Finally someone saying the obvious loud!

    • @LtCatscratch
      @LtCatscratch 2 місяці тому

      Even msi gungnir 300 have a removable front fan plate that supports 12cm or 14cm fans. default 12cm fans are screwed behind but they have cutouts, and they are 1200rpm max, so the swirling is quieter. 14 cm fans gets obstructed either way.
      What i would prefer is just a big removable mesh (like exhaust area) in front with bigger washer screws so you can do whatever you want.

  • @ImUrMISERY
    @ImUrMISERY 6 місяців тому +4

    I also think if u used better fans like be quiet silent wings pro 4 u would get way better noise control.

  • @kadeynkometscher-nelson3552
    @kadeynkometscher-nelson3552 2 місяці тому +1

    i replaced the front 3 with noctua 140's and its perfectly quiet

  • @White0Reaper
    @White0Reaper 6 місяців тому +2

    This is such a disappointment, all they had to do was take the Torrent arguably the best large form factor case and stick a wood panel on it. That's it, so much wasted potential

    • @abb0tt
      @abb0tt 6 місяців тому

      …and move the PSU to the bottom. I am sure the top PSU mount is essential to the Torrent’s performance, but I cannot stand it.

  • @alb.1911
    @alb.1911 6 місяців тому +2

    No one use the fans at max speed 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @XimenezJr
    @XimenezJr 6 місяців тому +15

    I wish they would deliver the smaller north. This is a little bit dissapointment.

    • @jangovin1
      @jangovin1 6 місяців тому +2

      Won't a smaller North be the Terra case though?

    • @illus1v3
      @illus1v3 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@jangovin1maybe mATX?

    • @XimenezJr
      @XimenezJr 6 місяців тому +1

      @@illus1v3Yep, i wish they were release something like North compact (for mATX).

    • @IHazPeppers
      @IHazPeppers Місяць тому

      A smaller case won't fix larger gpu's. Infact the whole point of this case is to house a larger gpu.

  • @WINTFOX
    @WINTFOX 6 місяців тому +5

    3:43 Tell this to Corsair, same = ))

  • @MaskedOG
    @MaskedOG 6 місяців тому +1

    Bought it and gave it back. Even my 10 year old noname brand Case was quiter. Building in it was okay but it feels so damn cheap it isn´t worth buying. Temps are pretty good tho.
    The top cap was to lose for me as well. when I moved my case it constantly got lose. Maybe i had a bad model but that was hella anoying. Also non removable fan casing on top and front is absolut awfull. It looks really stunning but is okay to be build in but feels cheap and is noise. Not worth it at all.

  • @lonelymtbrider3369
    @lonelymtbrider3369 6 місяців тому +1

    The aspect fans are terrible.... Try with P14s instead...

  • @Montyh7
    @Montyh7 6 місяців тому +3

    It's still the most beautiful case on the market and the only one I want. The only reason I didn't get the North was it's size. They've fixed that, and that black XL with mesh is an instant buy.

  • @justeddm
    @justeddm 6 місяців тому +3

    Advise them to make fractal north compact matx case please

  • @FhargaZ
    @FhargaZ 4 місяці тому +2

    I bought the Black nromal one in January and it arrived last month, noise, looks, temperature is soo good. Set it up with 2 noctua NF-A12x25 ULN and it is amazing compared to what i used to have.

  • @moevor
    @moevor 6 місяців тому +12

    Very balanced review! I like that you acknowledge that the North line is leaning hard on the wood panels and there is a honeymoon period, just like you would experience with the O11 style cases. In the end, the case still has to be competitive and I'm not seeing how this is.

    • @Appoxo
      @Appoxo 6 місяців тому

      Still liking mine after 5 months. Such a pretty front and power button

    • @IwinMahWay
      @IwinMahWay 6 місяців тому

      They should do a gold version instead of wood

    • @Appoxo
      @Appoxo 6 місяців тому

      @unholydonuts I'd say prett, good.

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH 5 місяців тому

      I think it depends on what you want to built in it.
      If you like the wood design and the system isn't something extremely heavy like a Core i9 with a 4090 or something then is not really that worse than anything else.
      I mean if you have an up to 8 core Ryzen CPU with a 4070 or lower then you can probably keep the fans at lower RPM and not feel the noise issues at all.
      I believe for the average user the disadvantages of this case can be ignored in favor of the design since he may never be affected by them. But such a user doesn't even need an XL in the first place. A simple modest system can work fine on the normal mid tower. So the XL thing becomes kind of redundant since it is something a more power user might want that plans to use many components etc but that user might feel disappointed by the issues.
      The last thing i want to mention is that i see the window glass option of this case as complete hubris. The whole point of going with a case like this is wanting something more classic with wood etc. Having a window with little RPG lights in a case that tries to look less sci-fi but more like a classic old furniture is just a duality born from anathema.

  • @secundus6457
    @secundus6457 6 місяців тому +1

    Overpriced.

  • @eriklarsson3188
    @eriklarsson3188 5 місяців тому +1

    Build quality on this case equals my $64 Montech Airbase 903...and that's a great case. Case of the Year Award if you'll ask me you'll not gonna find a better case for the money.

  • @ScottGrammer
    @ScottGrammer 6 місяців тому +3

    The dust filter restricts the airflow, and the reduced airflow reduces the noise. Love the look of the case, but I'll keep my Fractal Torrent.

    • @donkeysunited
      @donkeysunited 6 місяців тому +1

      I would have thought that reduced airflow would increase noise as the fans have to work harder?

    • @ScottGrammer
      @ScottGrammer 6 місяців тому +1

      @@donkeysunited Most of the noise is produced by air being bounced around (turbulence) as it weaves its way through the wooden grill. The air filter is a very fine nylon mesh (at least it is on my Fractal Torrent), and so air flowing through the mesh makes little noise. Since the mesh reduces the airflow though the wooden grille, that reduces the turbulence there and thus reduces the noise. The fans make little noise themselves because of the design of the blades, and, as with the wooden slats, cutting off air to the fan blades actually reduces the noise they make as well.

  • @AD34534
    @AD34534 6 місяців тому +1

    The loudness is disappointing.

  • @oldmatttv
    @oldmatttv 16 днів тому

    I'd just like a quiet, smart looking case, but not that many options it seems. The Proart and this have been my options recently, but really tricky to choose, especially now that you showcase the noise levels which to me is a priority. Any tips?

  • @paul2609
    @paul2609 6 місяців тому +2

    My Meshify-2 has this issue with the fan brackets causing turbulence noise, it seems to be the case with this product. They need to redesign the fan brackets.

  • @sheepstardetail
    @sheepstardetail 6 місяців тому +2

    I have the normal north and I can’t remember if the stock fans have any rubber mourning pads for noise. Can you confirm if they do? Might explain the higher noise levels.

    • @sheepstardetail
      @sheepstardetail 6 місяців тому

      @@baronvonslambert yeah I noticed when I first setup the computer that the front fans can produce quite a bit of noise on max speed, but I have then tuned down on a lower noise curve. I might try mounting them with rubber isolation mounts and see if that improves things. Kind of a weird omission on fractals part to have plastic on metal fan mounting for a case in this price class.

  • @crazyeyecarl
    @crazyeyecarl 6 місяців тому +1

    I'd love an mATX option. For me mATX is the perfect size; not tiny, but not a piece of furniture.

  • @coolcat23
    @coolcat23 6 місяців тому +2

    Good on you for pointing out the shortcomings of the case. Too bad the Torrent looks so unappealing.

  • @michaelknight2897
    @michaelknight2897 20 днів тому

    beef up the panels with sound dampening, and put a solid side panel (no more LED crap), and this case would be perfect.

  • @fuzzwho20
    @fuzzwho20 6 місяців тому +1

    Silent Wing 4s would suffice for better CFM and much lower dBa.

  • @MaheerKibria
    @MaheerKibria 6 місяців тому +1

    While this is a gorgeous case I don't like it because when it's clearly a case tailored toward appearance I want certain things. I want a vertical mount so I can showcase that component, but I don't limit my access to the other PCIe slots. I feel like the north in a lot of ways is a step down rather than a step up. I feel like Fractal and a lot of case manufacturers focusing on aesthetics rather than features which is dumb because you can sell the aesthetics as an add-on. Say what you want about the Corsair, but The fact that the wood panel is something I can buy later and snap in was a bit of genius. At the end of the day, a lot of the aesthetic pieces are just things that attach to the top, bottom, or front of the case. I get new cases when they add new features. But the north just made me sad and the XL makes me sadder. Most cases are the same boring thing with minor changes that could have been sold as some add-on.

  • @psychotictactoe
    @psychotictactoe 6 місяців тому +1

    Seems like case quality is going backwards and prices skywards. My P600S weighs a metric tonne and feels so well built and it cost me £120 only!

  • @xawyua5020
    @xawyua5020 Місяць тому

    Would you recommend this case for a AI workstation with 4 double slot GPU? Any other best option? Thanks a lot ❤

  • @taomahNEGEV
    @taomahNEGEV 6 місяців тому +4

    Absolutely insignificant negatives.

    • @ravensky5676
      @ravensky5676 6 місяців тому +1

      Well the screw on mine (pcie bracket) not holding anymore cause of the great super light material. I would not call that insignificant

    • @vasileiospgr
      @vasileiospgr 14 днів тому

      "one of the loudest cases i've ever tested" is insignificant?? 😒

  • @ErikLandvall
    @ErikLandvall 3 місяці тому

    mhe, don't run front fans on max, I don't even think you would need to use them on half, they are just there to replace the air in the box, you use the cpu and gpu fans to cool the system, and it uses the air in the box. So as long as you replace the air in the box at some half decent speed - with these sizes of fans, you will do so very easily, using 1800 rpm is amazingly crazy... and obviously an exaggeration, it will fill the box with dust in no time... but good that you still can use whenever you peeking out the usage of the machine.
    And the flexibility in the metal is a good design in my opinion, what don't bend breaks...
    But in regards to the loose parts you showed, I'm speechless... I wonder if there is really no way to solve that.
    And I dislike something you didn't bring up, it's a wooden front with plastic details.. wtf? why did they not use metal instead of plastic for that detail?
    Anyway, I think I will buy the box, I'm weak for the wooden estatics.

  • @waron1c3666
    @waron1c3666 2 місяці тому

    in regards to the fan hub in the back of the case, how many total amps can it support? would 4 Noctua NF-A14 PWM plugged into it make it go poof?

  • @Chimpur
    @Chimpur 6 місяців тому +1

    A year and a half ago I bought a Torrent case from Fractal. I made the mistake of getting the version with a sold metal panel and no glass. I tried to purchase the glass after the fact and had zero luck. Fractal basically just said to buy a whole new case. I wish I could just get that glass.... I'd pay for it; not asking for a freebee. sigh...

  • @daviddesilva2465
    @daviddesilva2465 5 місяців тому

    Who's actually going to utilize those noisy fans, anyhow? I've just purchased this case, and my intention is to swap out the front fans and install the ProArt LC 420 all-in-one CPU liquid cooler instead. In my view, your criticisms aren't warranted; this case is fantastic.

  • @Dr.WhetFarts
    @Dr.WhetFarts 6 місяців тому

    No one really requested a BIGGER North... The original is perfect really. Smaller would have been better, since ITX is popular. Don't like the look of Terra.

  • @Nunman1962
    @Nunman1962 6 місяців тому +1

    I like the looks of the Fractal North, but between the build quality and the front fan bracket, I think I'll stick with my NZXT H7 Flow case.

  • @chrisstory563
    @chrisstory563 6 місяців тому +4

    talk about Sh-- hitting the fan with that case making that much noise. it sounded like a an old 10 year old HP case that never had a cleaning job.

  • @AntonAntipenko
    @AntonAntipenko 6 місяців тому +1

    спасибо, что показали толщину металла. Я понял, что мне этот корпус не подходит. Уже 1 такой nzxt есть. за 200$ качество как у 50$

  • @wrippley103
    @wrippley103 6 місяців тому +2

    The noise aspect of a case during a workload doesn't bother me as long as it can be made silent again or maintain very low decibels when it performs minimal tasks like web surfing or playing video.

    • @HardwareCanucks
      @HardwareCanucks  6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah the noise is not an issue if you're running around 1000 RPM on the front, and a bit lower for the side intake. But FD not addressing the turbulence issue is a concern. Hopefully in rev3.
      -D.

    • @wrippley103
      @wrippley103 6 місяців тому

      @@HardwareCanucks I do appreciate your insight and attention to detail, another awesome and informative review.

  • @Snoopi.7
    @Snoopi.7 6 місяців тому +4

    Definitely a disappointment. I expected much more from fractal. For the corners they cut it doesn’t show in the price.

    • @paul2609
      @paul2609 6 місяців тому

      Corners are not cut, just badly designed.

  • @marcuslagergren5632
    @marcuslagergren5632 6 місяців тому +1

    I have the original North, and i stuck it full with fans from Noctua 😎

  • @feralkitty33
    @feralkitty33 6 місяців тому +1

    Looks great, but like the North, I still want at least 1 5.25 bay

  • @ciaranplunkett1395
    @ciaranplunkett1395 5 місяців тому

    Every case i see from Fractal really is "form over function".
    The sad thing is it's working.

  • @perdomot
    @perdomot 6 місяців тому +2

    We need a North Mini for M-ATX next.

  • @allpro7cf257
    @allpro7cf257 6 місяців тому +2

    Thats nice but what about ITX? 😢

  • @vensroofcat6415
    @vensroofcat6415 6 місяців тому +1

    Great friendly critical review! What I'm looking for in 2024 is a new case from Fractal. What's next after Torrent, North and Terra. Is there anything?

  • @unwantedvoid1678
    @unwantedvoid1678 2 місяці тому

    So, basically, Meshify 2 XL is still their best and all-in product.

  • @MarkoVuckovic32
    @MarkoVuckovic32 26 днів тому

    Now I'd love to see mATX version for us more budget oriented builders.

  • @lightspeedrescue
    @lightspeedrescue 4 місяці тому

    Wood vibrates from any air movement through it, this is a design flaw that can't be fixed

  • @E54OW
    @E54OW 6 місяців тому +1

    NOT BIGGER THEY NEED TO MAKE IT SMALLER < ITX PLEASE

  • @jacobs1047
    @jacobs1047 6 місяців тому +1

    7:20 Are you sure they're "protecting" the torrent? I thought that case was discontinued...

  • @user-oe3mo6vq8b
    @user-oe3mo6vq8b 6 місяців тому

    too expensive
    trash left and right panel
    trash top panel
    but wonderful rear mesh. any fan support

  • @ChrisMa-ls1bj
    @ChrisMa-ls1bj 6 місяців тому +1

    thank you for doing noise test. I don't see people doing review with this test. Hope you do more on more cases.

  • @FirestormX9
    @FirestormX9 4 місяці тому

    Why do people want the tiniest of pc cases more than a good, roomy, standard or plus size ones?

  • @DaKrawnik
    @DaKrawnik 6 місяців тому +1

    It's just a wood front.
    Nothing else stands out at all.

  • @jaymacpherson8167
    @jaymacpherson8167 6 місяців тому +1

    Curious the optional side panel mount is built with so much proportional open area relative to the front panel.

  • @johnr3514
    @johnr3514 2 місяці тому

    its a shame they really didnt make it an XL. now they need to quickly do a xxl

  • @luisfernandes742
    @luisfernandes742 6 місяців тому +1

    First! 🥇

  • @learnalanguagewithleslie
    @learnalanguagewithleslie 4 місяці тому +1

    Is the tempered glass panel version quieter than the one with the mesh side panel?

    • @Leopardipzg
      @Leopardipzg 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, it will prevent high pitched noises (unless of course you have the front facing at you).

  • @Electric_Doodie
    @Electric_Doodie 6 місяців тому +3

    Turbulence with 140mm fans in the front is a BIG ISSUE on basically all Fractal Cases, because of the way they get mounted (on that rail style) which is also a thing on the Meshify C, Meshify 2, Define Editions etc.
    Which was a reason I opted out to 120mm fans instead. That turbulence was driving me insane.

    • @TimberWulfIsHere
      @TimberWulfIsHere 6 місяців тому

      No issue with my torrent.

    • @Electric_Doodie
      @Electric_Doodie 6 місяців тому

      @@TimberWulfIsHere the torrent, afaik, with the default fans isn't on a rail system mounted like the cases I mentioned (and probably some others / like the north).

    • @TimberWulfIsHere
      @TimberWulfIsHere 6 місяців тому

      @@Electric_Doodie check again. It has 2 detachable rails.

    • @maxcorfield328
      @maxcorfield328 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Electric_Doodie I have the issue with my torrent. I have to cap the fans at like 45 percent of they start humming

    • @paul2609
      @paul2609 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TimberWulfIsHereI had the same issue on my Torrent, it depends on the fan speed and proximity to the front obstruction and railing.

  • @SlipperyCarrot
    @SlipperyCarrot 6 місяців тому +1

    On the ordinary model, 140mm fans in the top are a pain in the a**.

  • @levo75
    @levo75 22 дні тому

    I'm happy my system never revs up the fans to maximum.

  • @justanobody4983
    @justanobody4983 6 місяців тому +1

    Matx is what i was waiting for. Well maybe next year.

  • @brumby92
    @brumby92 6 місяців тому +1

    I've found any fan rail system makes an awful noise. You could mod it with a Dremel and get much better audio profile. Thin steel doesn't help either

    • @donkeysunited
      @donkeysunited 6 місяців тому

      Does the noise come from the airflow being blocked by the rail, or is it vibration from thin unsupported mounts?

  • @juliogomezyt
    @juliogomezyt 6 місяців тому

    No money for spend in computer insumes but still fan of this world.

  • @Strickland325
    @Strickland325 6 місяців тому +1

    I’d like to see a test with 120mm fans. Maybe a test with the 120 support cut out.

    • @konradpaniec3276
      @konradpaniec3276 12 днів тому

      Have you done this? I am thinking of this solution myself hah

    • @Strickland325
      @Strickland325 12 днів тому

      @@konradpaniec3276 I have not. I personally own the regular north and love it.

  • @likwiddawn
    @likwiddawn 6 місяців тому +4

    First of all...good video and good points made. The one thing im gonna address a bit is the whole acoustic part. On idle it doesn't sound louder than most other cases but realistically how often do we run our PC-s on load without a headset on our head? Does that make it a non problem? No...its still an oversight but in my opinion an oversight that you will notice less than you might think.

    • @Atlas552
      @Atlas552 3 місяці тому

      Well it's not like everybody uses headphones all the time. My desktop speakers are good for games where positional audio and really deep basses aren't a thing, and by definition more comfortable to use for a couple of hours than any headphone can be.

  • @Reza1984_
    @Reza1984_ 6 місяців тому +1

    Lol we wanted an itx version not a XL one, wtf 😂

  • @zacharystrange8920
    @zacharystrange8920 6 місяців тому

    dude fuck that xl version get the matx version or itx version

  • @HOUSEWARMING
    @HOUSEWARMING 3 місяці тому

    Much appreciated. Considered this case for the aesthetics but after watching opted for the Pop Silent XL, due to the silence and it is really great!

  • @aakashvijaya
    @aakashvijaya 18 днів тому

    i love this guy real talks straight on point no shitsss!

  • @chrisbullock6477
    @chrisbullock6477 6 місяців тому +1

    I need a Mini that isn't as small as the terra.

  • @Coup0705
    @Coup0705 6 місяців тому

    Fractal Design seem to have gone backwards. Having own the North and Define series, they are known for quality. The side panel flex and loud noise is disappointing.

  • @khamronboothe3632
    @khamronboothe3632 6 місяців тому +4

    I humbly await for a Fractal North mini or a Terra XL made for matx cases.

  • @Mutio86
    @Mutio86 6 місяців тому

    Man this case feels way to cheap for the asking price. Bummer. They can discontinue it tomorrow and go back to development IMHO.

  • @bamhamer
    @bamhamer 6 місяців тому

    It's always good people but never bad people 😭

  • @mvargasmoran
    @mvargasmoran 6 місяців тому +1

    that's way too large and noisy

  • @viutor
    @viutor 3 місяці тому

    Where's the RESET button on this case?

  • @N3xusSolo
    @N3xusSolo 6 місяців тому +3

    I guess it doesn't matter which case you use, since 1800 rpm fans is going to be loud no matter what at 100%, right?

  • @fsdiNg0815
    @fsdiNg0815 6 місяців тому

    Looks like I am a minority here. But why is there only space for 2 HDDs. You could easily stack a bunch in the lower compartment. Even the regular north had a top mount, to have a total of 3 HDDs properly mounted, if you bought an extra mount. Bigger case, more expensive and a downgrade in that regard. Yes I know, I could replace my HDD arrays or jank them in the case by printing a custom mount. But still I wanted a solution addressed by Fractal ... this is a disappointment for me. As from the aesthetics ... man ... more wood in futures cases! Maybe a North XXL?

  • @opponenspericulo
    @opponenspericulo 2 місяці тому

    Having gotten this chassi with a Lian Li Galahad for the processor, Be Quiet in the back, a RTX4080 etc, the noise level is surprisingly low, with the open front (I used to run a FD R5 chassi w a Strix 980ti, got mighty hot) and the mesh side/upper mesh, seem to keep it very cool indeed, even under pressure, without much noise. That is the constant weigh-in: closed, damped chassi with massive fans, or a more open solution w maybe not so much cooling (or at least it should not have to work at max).
    Satisfied so far.

  • @DankBlank
    @DankBlank 2 місяці тому

    This was way better than the P500A.

  • @pandalife_gaming
    @pandalife_gaming 4 місяці тому

    I think it's maybe a bit much to give Fractal grief for not changing the design much. It's not the North 2, it's the North XL. It's bigger. That's it. That's all it really needs to be. That's all you should expect.

  • @razorwireclouds5708
    @razorwireclouds5708 5 місяців тому

    When I saw the thumbnail, I almost regretted my H7 Flow purchase. But once I saw the build quality and noise issues on this, I immediately got over it. This Fractal case is trash.

  • @i3looi2
    @i3looi2 6 місяців тому

    This guy literally naming all the past 50 cases "The PERFECT case"
    Otherwise, the case is lit af. Could use some LED to illuminate the wooden panel. But I guess you can always DIY.

  • @lifeisinserthere
    @lifeisinserthere 4 місяці тому

    Why can't they add wood to the right side panel? That seems like a perfect place to add wood to a PC case without any compromise (other than a heavier side panel NBD).

  • @johanrr4
    @johanrr4 6 місяців тому +1

    I want a small one, Fractal!!!

  • @myrirr
    @myrirr 6 місяців тому

    Its a good change, but too late. Wonder why they did not thought of compatibility first before release.
    Swapped my North for PA602. Even though North was such an aesthetically pleasing case.

  • @laithorabi9571
    @laithorabi9571 6 місяців тому

    Great Video Dmitry! I'm looking for a new wired "all in one" FPS/Story/Music/Movies headset which would you recommend between those 6
    1- Logitech G Pro X
    2- Hyper X Alpha S
    3- Hyper X Cloud 3
    4- Hyper X Cloud 2
    5- Razer Kraken V3
    6- Razer Blackshark V2
    7- Steelseries Arctis Pro + Gamedac
    8- Epos H6 Pro
    9- Corsair HS80