When you said the phrase "devoted daughter" my ears perked right up! Oedipus' interactions with his daughters were so interesting. In their patriarchal culture his sons were expected to protect the kingdom, his legacy, the family, and provide for him in his old age and care for their sisters. They were too busy battling for power and planning each others' demise. The contrast between them and the strength and devotion of his daughters, especially Antigone, is striking. She eventually displays the passion and bravery expected of her disloyal brothers. And Oedipus symbolically gets the last laugh by not only cursing his sons to death, but removing their choice as to where he will be buried. I loved these plays! Thank you so much for the great discussions. I'm so happy you're feeling better! ❤❤❤
Thanks, Kim! YES! YES! The sons are too busy battling for power - it's like the deserved the end fated to them. I really loved how you pointed out Oedipus' last laugh! He indeed got it.
thanks for this! smt that helped me feel this was the last part of the trilogy was thinking of the biographical side of things - Sophocles was an old man at the end of his life writing about an old man at the end of his life, using the characters from plays that made him famous and bridging their stories together to make trilogy, but at the same time changing his Oedipus to find peace (?) or at least a new, positive life philosophy before he passes on in a weird mystical way...
This was an interesting video. I enjoyed your thoughts on the material and the way you put them together. I read some of these works decades ago for a mythology class and enjoyed them too.
Seeing your thumbnail prompted me to do a quick reread of Oedipus at Colonus, which I hadn’t read it since I was a teenager. A thing I found interesting was that just as the gods directed Oedipus’s fate since before he was born, at the end they brought about his death, not through a fall or through sickness, but apparently through direct intervention, painlessly. They were done playing with their toy. 😏 I love the final line of _The Great Gatsby._ It is engraved on the slab on Scott’s and Zelda’s grave, which I visited a few times when I lived about a mile away from the graveyard.
How cool about Scott and Zelda's grace and the quote! The gods in the ancient world are so different (in some ways) than what we not conceive as god. I feel terribly for Oedipus. He really didn't deserve his fate. Just saying.
There’s a full cast production of Oedipus the King on Scribd directed and translated by Nicholas Rudall with an interview with him at the end. Really interesting discussion and insights.
I think it is important to note that this play was written and performed during the Peloponnesian War and there is almost certainly a deep element of social and political commentary to it.
For a completely frivolous non-book comment, that shirt and lipstick are stellar on you. What lipstick is it? You are convincing me to read these classics
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When you said the phrase "devoted daughter" my ears perked right up! Oedipus' interactions with his daughters were so interesting. In their patriarchal culture his sons were expected to protect the kingdom, his legacy, the family, and provide for him in his old age and care for their sisters. They were too busy battling for power and planning each others' demise. The contrast between them and the strength and devotion of his daughters, especially Antigone, is striking. She eventually displays the passion and bravery expected of her disloyal brothers. And Oedipus symbolically gets the last laugh by not only cursing his sons to death, but removing their choice as to where he will be buried.
I loved these plays! Thank you so much for the great discussions. I'm so happy you're feeling better! ❤❤❤
Thanks, Kim! YES! YES! The sons are too busy battling for power - it's like the deserved the end fated to them. I really loved how you pointed out Oedipus' last laugh! He indeed got it.
thanks for this! smt that helped me feel this was the last part of the trilogy was thinking of the biographical side of things - Sophocles was an old man at the end of his life writing about an old man at the end of his life, using the characters from plays that made him famous and bridging their stories together to make trilogy, but at the same time changing his Oedipus to find peace (?) or at least a new, positive life philosophy before he passes on in a weird mystical way...
I completely agree! "Oedipus gets the last laugh" is what one commenter said and I kind of agree! :)
These are great formats :) I like hearing what they’re all about knowing nothing :) always such a good job with your information design! Goals!
What! From someone who writes INFORMATION DESIGN that is some wildly high praise! :D
This was an interesting video. I enjoyed your thoughts on the material and the way you put them together. I read some of these works decades ago for a mythology class and enjoyed them too.
I hope one day I can take a mythology class. The ancients are so interesting. :)
Seeing your thumbnail prompted me to do a quick reread of Oedipus at Colonus, which I hadn’t read it since I was a teenager. A thing I found interesting was that just as the gods directed Oedipus’s fate since before he was born, at the end they brought about his death, not through a fall or through sickness, but apparently through direct intervention, painlessly. They were done playing with their toy. 😏
I love the final line of _The Great Gatsby._ It is engraved on the slab on Scott’s and Zelda’s grave, which I visited a few times when I lived about a mile away from the graveyard.
How cool about Scott and Zelda's grace and the quote! The gods in the ancient world are so different (in some ways) than what we not conceive as god. I feel terribly for Oedipus. He really didn't deserve his fate. Just saying.
There’s a full cast production of Oedipus the King on Scribd directed and translated by Nicholas Rudall with an interview with him at the end. Really interesting discussion and insights.
Oh thanks! There is a full cast version on Audible as well. :)
@@Shellyish Nicholas Rudall gives a lot of insight into how certain words are mistranslated in a lot of versions.
I think it is important to note that this play was written and performed during the Peloponnesian War and there is almost certainly a deep element of social and political commentary to it.
Thank you!
For a completely frivolous non-book comment, that shirt and lipstick are stellar on you. What lipstick is it?
You are convincing me to read these classics
Thank you! My lipstick is from: Les Filles in Rouje Lip Palette (powder in the color "signature") from Violet Grey