Another great video; thanks to much to the whole crew! I especially appreciated everyone's thoughts on Wong2 ... I'll definitely have to give him a harder look! Cheers!
Cool guys, fun format, strong analytics, this was a pleasant to hear and watch! Waiting for the next Malifaux content. I've been telling everyone since the beginning of M3E that MahTucket is S-tier, she has a great keyword, flexibility and she's really fun to play, but only in new GG she gained her fame!
@@DangerPlanet1337 I’ll drink to that 😅😅😅. I would say he’s still solid, but I’ve found more success in playing my Zoraida crew. Honestly I’ve been debating between Euripides and Von Schtook for my first non-bayou crew.
@@DangerPlanet1337 Big E 2 was the one I had my eye on just cause I thought his model looked cool lol. I like VS’ model design and his odd playstyle, still a tough call.
Ulix2 is GREAT - Ulix1 could use some love. W the buff to the swine cursed that happened POST this video Ulix2 is one of the best killy keywords in the game.
Commenting after a rewatch, and I completely agree on Mecha-Meemaw. She's just a master I wish was better or could at least have some draw/scrap generation.
Great video, and really interesting to hear your thoughts on the faction! Wildly disagree with you on Som’er2 though, and cannot see him above D. The cost to summon Bayou Gremlins is far too high, and way to cumbersome to actually get out. A card, several actions AND a card? No thanks. Cute actions like Throw on Lenny isn’t enough to keep him viable either. Agree with you on everything else though! :D
I've tried using a bushwacker with wong 1, it was cute and annoying. Wong2 does work but I feel like wong1 can do more damage because shockwaves on a friendly hit a lot. Even if they pass it stacks and eventually everyone fails a duel.
I don't know, but for me having 2 Swine cursed and Alphonse with 7 glory and 2 shielded under wong 1 with Bo Peep turn 1 is pretty powerful. With bokor healing this 3 could be killed only with irreducible dmg. And let's don't forget 2 piglets with 4 shielded that can blow up 2-3 key models turn 1 with sparks (8 dmg1 pulses plus 2 mv15 3 dmg duels and 2 mv14 2 dmg duels)
My friends want to know who you're playing against to call the Wild Boars trash. Cause they and Ulix tend to be my MVPs. Decent damage and unimpeded make them great scheme runners. Plus with the Sow and Hog Whisperer I've always got one to go.
My chief issue with them is that they are nearly as expensive as war pigs while being significantly less dangerous AND somewhat less durable. Seven stones is an awkward price point for a minion that really doesn’t do anything except fight in melee, since you’re competing against great utility pieces like Merris or the flatly superior Swine Cursed. Scheme running is much less significant than it used to be in GG3, where holding territory is more important, and they’re incredibly fragile for their cost. Even unimpeded, which is their one true selling point, can now be handed out in an AOE by the Erymanthian Boar if necessary.
Som’er summons and that’s it, Ulix2 summons and is also a gigantic ranged threat and melee beatstick that strips your opponent’s hand. That’s my thinking anyways - I’d love to hear your experience with him!
@@sambarrows7543 I think Ulix2 in a vacuum is great, I just think that his minions aren't good enough to put him in A tier. And a lot of 50mm bases with 0" melee aren't easy to move around and the table alone can counter him :P Also any hazardous terrain crew or any crew that makes moving difficult is a pain for him.
@@pawelkorpal8596 as an avid Ulix fan the thing that hurts him the most is bad match ups. Too many guns and too much anti healing, hand pressure, too much haz or just bad funnel points on the board even can shut him down
@@kitsune80 very true. Moonshiner has similar problems (anti-heal, irreducible dmg, hazardous and terrain) but I believe deals way better with it. That's why I think Moonshiner is S tier in bayou (A+ tier in general) and Ulix2 is most probably B tier. I'm terrified of locking into Ulix and I know I can power through somehow most of the time Brewie
The audio in this video is pretty wack. I can barely hear any of you some of the times, and then the other half of you are *extremely* loud. Otherwise, lots of good points and good discussion.
![Malifaux Battle Report [Outcasts vs. Bayou]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HGoPdpmVrN4/mqdefault.jpg)
We need a tier list of all the S tier models across all factions
Very doable!!!
We just need to finish off ES + Arcanist + Dead Man's hand ... But that's a great idea to cap off the series. TY for the idea!!!
Making Ulix 2 enemy only with the zero card draw would make him even more obsolete than he is
Another great video; thanks to much to the whole crew! I especially appreciated everyone's thoughts on Wong2 ... I'll definitely have to give him a harder look! Cheers!
Cool guys, fun format, strong analytics, this was a pleasant to hear and watch! Waiting for the next Malifaux content.
I've been telling everyone since the beginning of M3E that MahTucket is S-tier, she has a great keyword, flexibility and she's really fun to play, but only in new GG she gained her fame!
As a Brewmaster main, I’m amused how quickly the tone shifted when we changed from Brewie 1 to Brewie 2.
If you look at the recent errata they really hit that model hard. He needed a significant adjustment and got it ...
RE: Brew2
@@DangerPlanet1337 I’ll drink to that 😅😅😅. I would say he’s still solid, but I’ve found more success in playing my Zoraida crew. Honestly I’ve been debating between Euripides and Von Schtook for my first non-bayou crew.
@@chayimweinstock443 both those are very solid ... Ice Daddy 2 is probably a 🎩 TOP3 Neverborn master RN. And Von S is good
@@DangerPlanet1337 Big E 2 was the one I had my eye on just cause I thought his model looked cool lol. I like VS’ model design and his odd playstyle, still a tough call.
Would be dope to hear an updated version of this tier list with all the balance changes that have happened since this one!
yea - We're planning on doing an UPDATE string of these for 2025 - we agree its time. Hope is to roll those out Q1 2025.
@DangerPlanet1337 hype
6:00 was Mk I when he could cast through his mosquitoes and keep bringing them back?
27:00 darn, I actually liked Ulix
Ulix2 is GREAT - Ulix1 could use some love. W the buff to the swine cursed that happened POST this video Ulix2 is one of the best killy keywords in the game.
@@DangerPlanet1337 that changes to list also we have? how tier list looks now?
Hype
Commenting after a rewatch, and I completely agree on Mecha-Meemaw. She's just a master I wish was better or could at least have some draw/scrap generation.
Would love for you guys to do another serie like this and rate Henchmens being used as leaders for crews.
damn I learned so much from this and I agreed with everything said and all the placements as well.
TY! Be sure to tell ur buddies about us PLZ!!!
Great video, and really interesting to hear your thoughts on the faction!
Wildly disagree with you on Som’er2 though, and cannot see him above D. The cost to summon Bayou Gremlins is far too high, and way to cumbersome to actually get out. A card, several actions AND a card? No thanks. Cute actions like Throw on Lenny isn’t enough to keep him viable either. Agree with you on everything else though! :D
I really want him to be good. I hope GG3 gives him a new lease on life!!!
I've tried using a bushwacker with wong 1, it was cute and annoying. Wong2 does work but I feel like wong1 can do more damage because shockwaves on a friendly hit a lot. Even if they pass it stacks and eventually everyone fails a duel.
Flying piglets and stuffed piglets are both undead, which is why they don't have the pig keyword: Ulix does not approve of such atrocities.
I've pretty much given up on my favorite m3e master. I think he is relegated to the bin until m4e
Really enjoyed your takes, I just wish Wong 1 was in a better spot! Always feels like it takes a lot of work to do very little. RIP Bokors!
. . . Dammit. I didn't want to buy a new faction.
I don't know, but for me having 2 Swine cursed and Alphonse with 7 glory and 2 shielded under wong 1 with Bo Peep turn 1 is pretty powerful. With bokor healing this 3 could be killed only with irreducible dmg. And let's don't forget 2 piglets with 4 shielded that can blow up 2-3 key models turn 1 with sparks (8 dmg1 pulses plus 2 mv15 3 dmg duels and 2 mv14 2 dmg duels)
My friends want to know who you're playing against to call the Wild Boars trash. Cause they and Ulix tend to be my MVPs. Decent damage and unimpeded make them great scheme runners. Plus with the Sow and Hog Whisperer I've always got one to go.
My chief issue with them is that they are nearly as expensive as war pigs while being significantly less dangerous AND somewhat less durable. Seven stones is an awkward price point for a minion that really doesn’t do anything except fight in melee, since you’re competing against great utility pieces like Merris or the flatly superior Swine Cursed. Scheme running is much less significant than it used to be in GG3, where holding territory is more important, and they’re incredibly fragile for their cost. Even unimpeded, which is their one true selling point, can now be handed out in an AOE by the Erymanthian Boar if necessary.
Not inviting me on a Bayou episode is clearly transphobia!!! Just kidding great episode. I could quibble a bit on some points but I agree 90%
Zipp2: Full Speed Ahead is pretty bonkers. Ignoring terrain and eating markers is so good.
It's a bit funny that Somer is bad because summons are bad and Ulix2 is good ;) Ulix2 is B tier at best
Som’er summons and that’s it, Ulix2 summons and is also a gigantic ranged threat and melee beatstick that strips your opponent’s hand. That’s my thinking anyways - I’d love to hear your experience with him!
@@sambarrows7543 I think Ulix2 in a vacuum is great, I just think that his minions aren't good enough to put him in A tier. And a lot of 50mm bases with 0" melee aren't easy to move around and the table alone can counter him :P Also any hazardous terrain crew or any crew that makes moving difficult is a pain for him.
Somer is bad because his summons aren't tough and can't scheme. Also Bayou 2 card is a waste of card space now.
@@pawelkorpal8596 as an avid Ulix fan the thing that hurts him the most is bad match ups. Too many guns and too much anti healing, hand pressure, too much haz or just bad funnel points on the board even can shut him down
@@kitsune80 very true. Moonshiner has similar problems (anti-heal, irreducible dmg, hazardous and terrain) but I believe deals way better with it. That's why I think Moonshiner is S tier in bayou (A+ tier in general) and Ulix2 is most probably B tier. I'm terrified of locking into Ulix and I know I can power through somehow most of the time Brewie
Brush up on your lore! Flying Pigs and Stuffed aren't Pigs BECAUSE THEY ARE TAXIDERMIED!! :P
The audio in this video is pretty wack. I can barely hear any of you some of the times, and then the other half of you are *extremely* loud. Otherwise, lots of good points and good discussion.