Britain's transformed election: what on earth is going on? | Anywhere but Westminster
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2017
- Five weeks after their election trek began, John Harris and John Domokos travel through England and Wales and watch Jeremy Corbyn in action, as they try to answer the crucial questions: is the Labour surge real? Has Theresa May’s campaign crumpled? And where is the country heading next?
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That Sikh campaigner in Wolverhampton is amazing.
When I saw him knock on that door, I cringed, thinking he was breaking a big taboo of canvassing in order to have a pointless fight on camera. And then he won a labour vote. Incredible!
I liked him too. I liked the candidate who said thet she's a nurse, not a politican. Whatever your views, there are too many MP's who studied PPE at Oxford or Cambridge, who's parents bought them a flat when they graduated. Out of touch.
The problem with the Labour Party is not the grass roots campaigners but the leadership and leader Corbyn who is unelectable along with a hand full of there cronies ,
'Do you know any Tories?'
'I hope not' 😂😍
"get rid of this dreadful woman" - rolls away on a scooter... That old woman is a badass
People seem to think Jeremy Corbyn is not strong, but it takes a lot of strength to withstand the pressure he has had and not to buckle but to stand by his principles. You don't have to sound aggressive to be strong.
This man can't get his own views in his parties manifesto. What does that say about his spine? He has had pressure because his policies don't add up and he carries himself in such a way that oozes uncertainty. This man is not fit to lead our country through a time like this.
That says he's a democrat, he abides by what his party supports overall in the Manifesto. His policies are costed with the sources of the funding identified - unlike the manifesto of the Conservatives and I don't think he "oozes uncertainty". He's not been used to being a leader for long but he's certain of his principles and what he believes in and that comes across clearly in his speeches which are delivered with enthusiasm. He's not had to do U turns on his manifesto, unlike the Conservatives.
As they used to say on a certain talent show... vote, vote vote, cos your vote counts!
+ Scott - you mean he dragged ! the party to a position where they are electable again and start to resemble a LABOUR party again. (read a party for low to middle income people = the majority in the country). While the party esablishment and most MPs were kicking and screaming and backstabbing whenever they got a chance.
After all he should have the powers like they used to have in absolute monarchy, where the word of the leader rules.
And he turned the Labour party around to show a spine when it comes to austerity and defending the NHS and so forth.
But he did not get every single point of his personal rather progressive views through on the manifesto you say ?
Oh well, I guess nothing will be good enough then - or are you a Tory troll or worse - a Blairite.
P.S. It seems right now as if he could improve the result for Labour but not get the majority - now imagine what could have been achieved had (New) Labour stood behind him from the very beginning. Even the short time where they could agree on a manifesto and campaigned for only a few weeks turned the polls around. - On the other hand Theresa May would not have called for a snap election, if Labour had consistently polled better. Labour poll results were not that bad before the leadership coup. One would think New Labour had better things to do when the Tories are busy to ruin the NHS.
As for him being "weak" - I could totally see him politely and STUBBORNLY defending the interests of the UK in the EU negotiations. And with UK interests I mean ALL of UK especially the low to middle income people, the citizens, consumers, smaller businesses, the industries that do not have the ear of the neoliberals (Tories or New Labour, doesn't matter). Like the fishing industry. While May will first and foremost defend Big Biz, the City of London, the interests of the tax dodgers, the interests of wealthy people (fox hunting anyone - it was almost as if she WANTED TO LOSE). And if she can May will use the negotiations as pretext to ram further promote her neoliberal agenda in the country.
NEVER LET A GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE. Like the Financial Crisis caused by Big Finance, THEY were rescued and THEY are doing great, while the citizens were subjected to austerity. Austerity does not work as an economic recipe - but if you work for the few on the back of the many austerity is a good strategy.
'Do you know any tories?'
'I hope not.'
Ha!
waht
I was lucky enough to be at the Labour Gateshead rally. Corbyn really is a remarkably powerful and genuine speaker. Will be a tragedy when he inevitably loses. If you're in the UK and reading this, it's ESSENTIAL that you get out there and vote tomorrow, even if the Tories will win, the slimmer their majority is the harder time they will have pushing hard Brexit, further cuts, and regressive social policy. COME ON BRITAIN
Two big Tory mistakes - one too many cuts focused on the poor, weak and disabled - a stupid move to call a GE - but the alternative is unthinkable!
"Do you know any Tories?"
"- I hope not." LOL
Its really politically unhealthy but so funny...
Vote Labour our only hope !!
Corbyn should be wise enough and ditch Diane Abbott, the worst embarrassment in this election campaign.
lalocho *cough* Boris Johnson, Amber Rudd et al. *cough*
I think he might. He refused to say that she would be Home Secretary.
lalocho Looks like he has.
That's wonderful news
Evan Phillips hahaha yes, let's get rid of those clowns as well. I was just talking about the labour party there. Both parties are just ridddled with morons....a sad state of politics indeed. But I have to say, I'd take Boris Johnson instead of Abbott.
Go Labour, love from Greece! Venceremos!
my gf is greek
This has been a fantastic series. I hope you carry it on to get impressions of people after the election.
I don't get how anyone can vote torry (and I used to vote for them, mainly because labour never made sensible policies, no not doing whatever the torries are doing is not a sensible policy), they're screwing everyone over (benefits, the disabled, children, education, police (and then having the nerve to blame everyone but themselves when there's a terrorist attack), the elderly, the unemployed, the average working person, immigrants, EU citizens who have made lives and families here, etc) while cutting taxes to the rich and having no plan for brexit (other than pissing off everyone in the EU), wanting to pass thousands of laws without going through parliament, ignoring the house of lords and so much more.
I don't get how anyone can vote for a man who supported terrorism against his own country. I don't get how anyone can vote for increasing UK debt from £1.7 trillion to £2.2 trillion.
"I don't get how anyone can vote for a man who supported terrorism against his own country." if you are talking about Corbyn, he has never supported terrorism, where as May has cut funds to the police force so much that she was warned meny times that she was reducing their ability to prevent attacks. "I don't get how anyone can vote for increasing UK debt from £900 billion to £1,400 billion." you do know that UK debt has not gone down under the torries either, so if we're going to be in debt we might as well provide for the people, rather than make those worse off suffer to keep the rich guys richer.
I am talking about Corbyn. And he did indeed support terrorism. As did his shadow chancellor, when he 'honoured' the 'sacrifice' of IRA terrorists. And you do know that the problems we have with state spending cuts now are down to having to cope with the debt we already have, yes? Perhaps you can explain how taxing the richer guys will pay off £2.2 trillion of UK debt?
jezza gets me exited !! i'm so happy with him
You are right - Jezza will be exited soon enough
Mya Mi jezza Kyle?
OH HELL NAH no, Clarkson
Mya Mi - He's a moron.
corbyn ftw!!!
6:30
Corbyn for president
I don't think anyone realised how loaded that statement was.
Tories wouldn't risk the Guardian doing a bad piece on them. I'm surprised at how impartial this was, i really enjoyed it.
I pray this was a blessing for England! Much love from America
Northeast is always a Labour seat never a tory seat
What on Earth is going on? Democracy and a fight for justice.
How do you convice people that Tory spending is actually higher both short and long term?
sirico By lying. This 'trickle down' economic theory is a load of horseshit. Short term your proposition is laughable and simply untrue. Now, to debunk the long term we must look into the past time this was really taken up, namely Thatcher's years. During that time, investment as a share of GINI actually went down, meaning that giving them more money doesn't actually mean that they spend all of it. However if you redistribute it through taxes and benefits to the lower and middle classes (who tend to spend all their income) then you actually get more spending and therefore you get better economy, that is why many of the Scandinavian countries have such high growth rates. I'd also like to point out that during Thatcher's and Reagan's tenure, 91% of income growth was for the top 10% and 50+% was for the 1%. This clearly shows that the rest of the population didn't really benefit. Labour wants to invest in the future and the next generation, something that in the long run would bring in more money for the government and boost opportunity in the private sector, as well as helping more people. Back to an earlier point, the rich tend not to spend most of their money preferring to keep it in off shore tax havens where it is in effect wasted, so giving to them can actually lead to money going out of the economy. Even when they do tend to use it, it's often in things that are just financial games and not investment in the real economy that actually helps people. It tends to be in exchange manipulation and investment in housing prices, which just make it more unaffordable for everyone else. So stop believing that you somehow have superior knowledge, your arguments are unfounded. :)
You can't sadly, they're spoon fed lies from the likes of Dacre and Murdoch. Muppets still believe that if its printed it must be true.
May is nothing like Thatcher. Like her or not, Thatcher was a strong leader, they didn't call her the Iron Lady for nothing.
May is weak asf. People are too focused on appearances.
It's very nice to see so many young people supporting a policy that will borrow money today, that they will have to pay back tomorrow.
Man, I love elections, especially when a radical lefty could actually win
This was probably meant to be a Balanced piece.
Too bad the Tories are so scared they won't engage in the debate.
I was third at polling station this morning 😞
But still voted Labour ☺
1:04 you know any tories? Answer ... i hope not. Hihi. Got me cracking.
I absolutely LOVE JEREMY CORBYN!! How anyone can say he is not strong is beyond me.. A man who has stood by his principles throughout his entire career. Consistently been on the right side of history showing incredible foresight and intuition. Enduring endless bullying and media bias and the attempted coup within his own party.
Strength comes from believing in what you are saying and doing... that is why he is strong and dependable. #votelabour
this is a wonderful piece :)
in the end i think the only way we can make things better is if we do try to be help the people who have been pushed into small places, i want to help some who has been conned into a shitty apartment by a land lord and can't complain because they've invest in this shitty apartment... the only problem is i just don't know where to start?
"Must have lots of money that needs protecting"
That bigotry is the prime reason why I'm not voting Labour.
I'm so proud of all the people here but especially the young people. Young people talking about compassion, people applauding because an honest man is telling then the truth at last.
We must vote labour tomorrow, every young person.. and we will win!
haha you can't fool wise old women in go-cart things :)
What an amazing night it was.
6:30 MR CORBYN FOR PRESIDENT - lol
this was a brilliantly shot and commentated video. insightful in terms just how unpredictable and confusing this election was. hilariously deadpan and just plain inspirational. yes jez
Britain doesn't vote for a president. Vote for the local MP who represents you best.
"Get rid of this dreadful woman"
Fear politics has always worked very well for the tory party especially playing into the hands of the right wing media.
Right wing media 😂😂😂
1:42 Look at 'Shoe Zone' :P
LinkWave oh!
In my town, someone took the "S"
"hoe Zone"
Can i honestly get good insight?
What on earth does it mean when people say he doesnt look like a leader?what do leaders look like?
Or do they mean he is soft and honest?honesty
“ people are warming to labour “ ... is that why they lost 59 seats?
This was made three years ago. Labour gained 30 seats that election.
fire the editor, he cut a clip of a motorway sign leading to the north east and then two shots of southern towns
Hmmm why can't the reporter from a newspaper that's openly endorsed Labour get an interview with the Conservative candidate 🤷🏻♂️
If you are from a military family - please vote for the Tories, Labour are cutting soldiers pensions. The military is a symbol of patriotism, they fight on the front line overseas so that the war doesn't come to us. They do what they have to do so that we can be free, lets not forget our boys and the well deserved pension they get.
It's taken 30 years to find the opposite of Thatcher, he'll improve things, just as she destroyed things. At last the antidote!!!
I thought Jeremy Corbyn Election rally back in 2017 was a bit like Donald Trump in the US , I'm sure everybody agrees with me on that
coooool
C'mon GB, you can do it...
My man is so special.JC is the man and he is more than a PM and we don't care what our foes say.
Conservative voter
Computer Programmer
West Midlands
NHS:
* Labour initialised the act that would pave way for privatisation in the NHS Act 2006 (4 yrs before tories took over)
* People say that Tories are killing the NHS but google BBC NHS Shortage of beds 1999 to find articles written by the BBC as well as articles by the guardian showing the NHS struggles are not new, they have been around for 20yrs, I remember as a 15 yr old seen the news at 10 saying Shortage of beds, elderly left out in hallways, shortage of ambulances, shortage of nurses
Again this was all during the late 90s early 2000's
* It was labour was it not that sent us to Iraq - Good old Tony Blair, and look what position he is in right now
Income Tax: (2015/16)
25% to Welfare (For me that was £1100~)
20% to Healthcare (£900~)
15% to Pensions
12% to Education
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...
...
1.9% for Street lighting
1.5% for the EU Budget
1.4% for Foreign Aid (£45~)
Yet you have political parties banging on about the EU and Foreign aid and how this will save the NHS
Yet if you reduce welfare more people work, more tax contributions are made, more payments to the NHS
Defecit in 2009 (Labour) £168 million
Defecit in 2017 (Conserv) £58 Million
Unemployment in Apr 2010 - 8% (Labour)
Unemployment in Apr 2017 - 4.7%(Conservs)
Lets not forget the NHS and it's Cosmetic surgery
Coughs....Jossie Cunningham
Or how about The mother of 11 getting a purpose built house by her council
Labour created the struggles and the dependency on benefits
Now we are trying to reduce the welfare dependency people kick off
Other countries with an NHS do all right! (You say)
Erm but do those countries have a like for like service
IE: Do they have social housing or is everything owned or private rented
If so, should we then copy and scrap council housing which would eradicate Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit for every one and make every one pay for housing and council tax them selves, then transfer the funds from Welfare over to the NHS?
I agree with the video that neither party sounds promising
Teresa May is not as strong as David Cameron was
And therefore maybe Labour should win, that way when people see no improvement with the NHS, or the country still spirinling into debt and we become a "Developing" country rather than a "Developed" country
Then people can thank Labour but when they do realise "Opps" that wasnt a clever idea and are ready to vote conservs again
Dont expect the conservs to get us out of debt without cutting benefits and public services in order to reduce the yearly defecit and debt, as the money has to come from somewhere and printing more money = inflation, increasing minimum wage = inflation
So we need to save and live within our means
Look politics is complex
It cannot function by having 1 policy for X, 1 Policy for Y and 1 Policy for Z
Otherwise people become confused, they dont know what to expect and caos breaks out
So 1 glove fits all is usually the method in politics
But there always going to be some people caught out by the system
But only because it doesnt work for 1% of the population doesnt mean we change it for the 99% it does work for
otherwise do we legalise shoplifting, given 1% of the population may choose to thieve and the 99% of us do not
SECOND IS NOT FIRST, BUT THERES A JOB IN MCDONALDS IF HE WANTS ONE :))
The lady in the purple raincoat is my hero
The oldies in Bridgend - completely taken by the Sun newspaper by the look of it.
The heady days of 2017 when Comrade Corbyn hit his high water mark with the kidults of Glastonbury chanting his name like muggy sheep . All went rapidly downhill after that and now he's toxic .
Problem is none of the youth had to live through the 70 s with some of the policy,s that Corbyn has
But the youth have seen their futures ruined by the children of the 80s, thatchers legacy: the only generation that made their children worse off than they were.
Still the best content produced by The Guardian.
You've have been paying attention to our politics and learning about us in our disaster so I guess it's overdue for this newbie New Yorker to reciprocate and take time to learn about what you guys are going thru over there...seems like a parallel portrait on similar degrees with folks understanding politics in the modem world and those stuck in the past. let's see, on both sides of the pond which views will have their way...
I really like this chap.
Yeah, with him in Downing Street, we'd be like Greece in 2 years! Remember, it was Blair's actions which has led to these cut-backs. He re-negotiated our EU rebate from 90% down to 50%, and on top of that, opened our borders up to hundreds of thousands of EU citizens who have stretch services to the full. We used to have the Census, a population count, so the government knew how much tax they had to raise to run the services effectively. You can't do that with open borders. Still, that's not what you wanna hear,is it? Just keep listening to the man who'll tell you only what you wanna hear!
Jeremy Corbyn has had to withstand a barrage of abuse not only from the Tories, but from the Blairites too. And yet, he took it all . That tells me that he has strength in abundance and stamina. Now, he actually looks PRIME MINISTERIAL! There is a quiet demeanor, determination and honesty about him that appeals to people.
10:13 should;ve just said cos we're the proletariat!
There has to be hope. There just has to be.
So this is what the Empire looks like now!
The old man at 3:40: "he doesn't look like a leader". Maybe. But image isn't everything.
I urge every young person to get stuck in, get involved, change our future and vote labour!
The problem is, as Churchill admitted, the average voter.
We need the Monster Raving Loony party
Fur seals clapping for the man with the CLUB!
For God's sake, vote Labour. End this Conservative nightmare.
Labour needs you young uns.
Theres going to be a load of pissed off Labour voters in the next 24 hours
UNNNNNNNNLUCKY
Without the divisive tactics surrounding Brexit especially regarding the working class vote, on what basis would they have to vote Tory? The Tories could see over the horizon and new they needed a digestible narrative that was easily peddled and swallowed. Ukip had already put in the ground work for them, all they had to do was legitimise and tread around the anti-immigration feeling that was so prevalent, without isolating any current Tory voters. We will all move on from Brexit, where do they have to go next to divide, they have already sunk to the depths of what most educated right minded people would believe to be conceivable. What other narrative do they have?
Let's be realistic he was never ever going to win. Britain is a country of centre politics - we have seen and experienced extremes and its never gone well
I didn't know the UK had a Donald Trump, and his with may lol
A great series, thank you for putting these together
Go Britain ! Choose the right candidate. Don't fuck it up like the US did.
If this man can't do it , I dont know who in the earth can
Corbyn is a decent human with a message of peace. Please don't assasinate him.
lol the guardian still trying to stop brexit this paper is the pits
Whats turned out to be the real ''coalition of chaos''.!! 🤔😉
Britain looks so run down and the people look depressed
Come on Labour!!! We can do it!!! :D
bassaddikt89 Don't get your hopes up. Prepare to be disappointed, but keep a little bit of hope.
Hope is all we've got.
Well, i'm going to vote
Donovan Tull I think there's a high probability Labour will flat out win tomorrow. But everyone has to vote and not be lazy. Come on everyone! VOTE LABOUR FOR A BETTER FUTURE!!
bassaddikt89 no you can't
Vote for Corbyn, the NHS needs to be the most important policy enough of the talking. Time to get things done the UK needs change.
That Jeremy Corbyn is a Level 5 Leader? Intense will, combined with authenticity and humility.
So who's electing Chairman Corbyn and his little red book?
POLITICIANS = DIVISION
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labour! labour! labour! labour all the way!!!!
With all the ridicule Corbyn and his supporters have received from the MSM (incl Guardian) for two years it is no wonder people have been reluctant to publicly admit support for him. Probably more shy Labour voters this time round than Tories.
12:35 prophetic.
enthusiasm not always translate into votes.
Great to see young people out there voting... Oh keep your fingers crossed people . JC for PM
Hopefully the Brits don't use electronic voting machines.
*No one in their mind should vote for May unless they're part of the super rich tiny minority that has increasingly been prospering in this country at the expense of the alienated majority!*
Under Labour:
If you earn £100,000 a year you'll pay an extra £1,000 a year.
If you earn £150,000 a year you'll pay an extra £5,425 a year.
If you earn less than £80,000 a year you'll pay an extra £0 a year.Sky News looked at the manifesto plans and worked out who benefits and who loses.The bottom earners are better off under Labour than under the Tories.
Middle income earners are better off under Labour than under the Tories.
The top earners get richer under the Tories.
a wonderful doco. didn't quite get the result he deserved but Jeremy Corbyn has been outstanding
Inclusive vs Exclusive.
Do you know any tories? I hope not 👏👍👍👍💓
Vote for the party not the person
people want a NHS and education and human rights...crazy i know
"Mr Corbyn for PRESIDENT!" lol hahaha
venezuela president