Sewing 24oz of leather on the china Shoe Patcher!! Making a Thick knife sheath
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2022
- Hello everyone! I am still alive and kicking after almost a year of no new content! I've been busy raising kids and making products that I sell every single day.
I have been running this machine now for nearly 3 years with very little modification.
134 series Groz Beckert needles size 140/22
138 bonded nylon TandyPro thread.
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Just got my machine out of the box. I appreciate your taking the time to document your efforts! Thank you!
Nice 👍🏻
Looks great.
There is actually an industrial version of this machine that has a post bed and uses industrial needles. I tried this with my patcher but it was hard to do. I now bought a cylinder arm and it breezes through the leather.
Ya ultimately I've switched to a class 4 Cobra and haven't looked back. CLSP is a good machine for learning to make things with a sewing machine, but is very limited in several ways
@@rogueapparatus6414 Yes, the CLSP can still do things no other machine can do. I use mine mostly for heavy fabric now.
Very nice work. I have been wondering about these machines and I think I will try it out.
I appreciate the video. I've been watching a bunch of these because I've been having issues with my machine in the last little while and I learn something new from every video I watch. Something I did to mine that you might want to consider is filing down the shape edge on the end of the cover plate just around the needle hole. I find the work travels a little nicer over the arm and doesn't leave that noticeable impression on the leather.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this. I have to say I enjoy your cottage industry approach on making these sheaths. I use a bench top drill press to drill out my stitch lines and it works pretty well because I like a rustic look.
Thank you! I just upgraded my machine this week to a Cobra class 4, but I have endless respect for the china patcher. It still does things that my $4000 machine can't do
@@rogueapparatus6414 Best of luck with it.
I’m highly impressed that you have dialed in your machine to sew this thick of leather Please show and demo where your bobbin sits when crank is at 12:00, 3:00, and 9:00 o’clock. Thanks!!!! I look forward to seeing it. 👍
Worth Watching Bro. You nailed it within the line. I think i should work on my foot to. Just to make Sure i wont have a press foot pressure marks.
Thank You
Damn you got that thing dialed in. See nothing but good from this machines n how you got it set up for thick leather. These help alot, never knew what back stich for..LOL Yes im new....
Nice work! Industrial sewing machines sometimes use silicone spray on the needle to make it slide up and down easier.
It looks like you're making money off a pretty good investment of $115. Well done!
I made about $160k in 3 years as a hobby. Just bought a Cobra class 4 this month and trying to go full time now!
I got that same one.
I've got one set up using 135 x 16 #22 needles with 138 and 207 bonded polyester. Haven't made anything yet but now I have a good idea of what these gadgets are capable of.
Nice! It will run 207 ok with that needle but a 23 needle is more ideal. Powerful little beast for how cheap it is!!
@@rogueapparatus6414 #23 won't quite fit down through the channel below, but I plan to run a burr through with the Dremel so I can use them.
@@davefarnsworth3020 ya only the older machines were made to work with a 23. I used a drill and a good quality bit to bore it all out a little, then I used a bigger bit to chamfer the top plate which really helps to catch the needle and keep the bottom from getting hung up on the hole
What kind of thread are you used looks thick
Did you have to change the bobbin any
How much did I need to mess with it to make it work that well
Hello do you have a video on how to or what to adjust to use 138 thread.
Aswome videos and Thank you for sharing.
It varies a bit by each machine but mainly you need bigger needles (140/22)
Thanks for the video. Help! I still can't get the bobbin thread to pull up. I sanded the whole bobbin shuttle down. I've watched several videos on how to thread the machine and bobbin. I finally figured that the bobbin thread goes behind the thread spring. Tried several tension options. The bobbin thread still won't pick up. If I hold the bobbin thread slightly then run a cycle through the machine, it brings thread on the other side of the needle. However, it still doesn't pick up the bobbin thread. Any ideas?
Sounds like probably a timing issue. The bobbin carrier may be off by a few clocks or possibly the needle bar is out of adjustment
@@rogueapparatus6414 It worked. I lowered the needle to point I can feel the tip through that hole under the bobbin shuttle/casing. It picked up the bobbin thread. Thanks so much.
From what I hear, you are using 138 on the top and looks like the same in the bobbin. It looks so big I thought it was 207. It really looks good. Do you always use the same thread in the bobbin that you use on top? In your opinion, do the threads need to be the same? I would like to use the largest thread I can on top, but something smaller in the bobbin so I can maximize my distance sewn before changing bobbins. Have you tried using 207/138 or 207/69? Or 138/69? I have some projects coming up that will require some long runs where changing bobbins is going to be a problem. The underside will not be seen so being a size or two smaller won't matter much. What do you think?
nice. I got a machine for Christmas from my mother-in-law. I am doing all the smoothing parts and such right now but noticed you are using some nice thick thread. Could you share what needle and thread combination you are using and what, if any modifications or considerations you had to take to use it? thank you for sharing your process.
CRAP! IF I just watched to the end before asking my question I would have found the answer. 🤪
Haha cheers, thanks!
can i sew the shoes on this item sir
what thread/ needle combo are you using on that?
140/22D (134 series Groz beckert) and 138 thread bonded polyester
Hi what size of trad you use can you help what size needle. Please thank you
140/22D and 138 thread
What is the thickest thread you can sew on your sewing machine
207 with a 160/23 needle. But I'll admit it wasn't very smooth and just felt labored. I prefer 138 with a 140/22 needle
@@rogueapparatus6414 thank you. I've got 207 thread and wanted to use it. I'm thinking about putting a servo motor on it
@@johnrisher3007 many people do! I never motorized mine, I'm investing in a class 4 cobra, but the CLSP will keep a place for special jobs
Great video, what size type thread are you using on the bobber?
Same as the top thread. In most cases I use 138 but also 207 works with a bigger 23 needle
@@rogueapparatus6414 awesome thanks 👍
Well I'm gonna give this a try. When I stitch cloth I have to do a back stitch so the thread locks and don't unwind. Do I just cut the thread and no back stitch? Thanks for your help really appreciate it
@@ARXER-hi1zs you always need to backstitch with machines because the lockstitch style can't hold without being back stitched and /or melted.
With leather I do 3. Cloth I'd be inclined to do 5 or so back stitches
What size needle and thread do you use?
138 with a 140/22D (134 series needle)
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