MARCH?!?!?! UUUMMMM NO!! Why are they doing this again? I did like the no break thing, but I'd rather have the breaks than wait this long for OUAT. UGH! And poor Regina! They literally gave her five whole seconds of happiness before they snatched it away.
1089aef Because people have been complaining with the 2-3 week breaks in between 2-3 weeks of episodes. Kinda ruins the momentum. It worked for ABC Family's dramas where they also have 20-24 episodes a season so it should work as well for ABC's Revenge, OUAT, Scandal, Murder and Grey's etc.
They discovered it helps with ratings and people aren't wondering when they next new epi shows up. Plus the cable networks do it and it seems to work for them so abc, nbc, cbs started doing similar
They keep doing that. Like everytime it's a season finale they give her 30 seconds of happiness. And then they're like "Nope!" She was CHOSEN! And still ended with nothing. It's just not right.
+1089aef I am pretty sure Regina and Meleficent have a duel because Regina turned her into a dragon for 28 years so that would make sense and the sorcerer is the author because he had that time travel thingy door in the ingrid scene so
It's so annoying how they destroyed Rumble. They had given him so much character development and within a few episodes they have completely destroyed it.
sadly, some people have a very hard time changing. some people pretend to change for a while only for a few years later go back to their same old ways. just... it happens... :/ that scene between with belle and rumple felt all too familiar and sad...
So it's Hooks fault he killed Zelena (I know she killed his son and made him her slave.) and lied about it? It's Hook's fault he switched his dagger the one he gave his wife to keep away from him? Come on I like Rumple but we can't keep blaming others for his actions. He's the same guy who crushed his wifes heart, chose magic over his son etc...
I think it makes his character much more interesting. The fact that he managed to get that glove back no matter what is exactly the same thing he did (in the future where he supposedly changed in heart) with giving Belle the fake dagger. If you compare him to Regina, you can see that his path to good is corrupt and much more complex than Regina's. Regina's evil began from hatred and betrayal; it's more based on her connection with people and those she have lost. (Daniel, her father, etc.) Her love for Henry made her want to be a better person and it wasn't smooth sailing for her at all. Rumple wanted to change for his son, but then he died thanks to Zelena. Rumple also died saving everyone else, and was brought back and became Zelena's personal slave. From there his fear for imprisonment grew stronger, and he acted out accordingly. Because when Rumple feels threatened, he has to fix things no matter the consequences. If you read the recent articles where they interview the writers, they talk more about how they see Rumple's character. They don't think he's evil, just somehow who's frightened. Because without magic or power he's a nobody and this is evident to how he feels about his past. I attempt I disliked Rumple a lot for hurting Hook, but I am glad things are okay and he got what he deserved. Oh and I am glad Belle did what she had to do.
He's not destroyed. The writers said this will be "the beginning of RumBelle". I feel like the thing he did wrong was lying to Belle. Trying to kill Hook & wanting to separate himself from the dagger made complete sense.
Not only did he lie to Belle, but he offered something she never asked for; his dagger. Thus creating this false hope that she means more than his power. That he trusts her with his life and that's what it means to be with someone truly. But alas the dagger was fake, and he didn't care about killing people. I understand where he's going through; I thought I hated his character but I really don't. Especially with how the writers described him it makes sense. I also understand if they weren't married and this was back in season one I can accept this, but they've gone through a lot already. It's the same crap, so it can't be that easy to fix Rumbelle.
As much as I am going to miss the Frozen characters (they had the perfect casting omg I loved it) I am glad they're gone so that a new story can be told for the second half. Plus it'll bring back focus to the other characters (like Snow and Charming who were kind of in the background of things and I truly miss them being part of the action). The new villains too bring me all these ideas of how they are connected to the other characters, and how they managed to get to our world (magic-free). Like Ursula was presented differently in season three (which seemed like a twist because we all expected she would show up and she didn't in Ariel's arc) so I would love an explanation on that. And she must have crossed paths with Hook possibly. (Which reminds me...I would love if Hook can get the Jolly Roger back) And then obviously Maleficent and Evil Queen have had a past. Probably connected to Snow and Charming as well. It would be nice if they showed Aurora and maybe she would be connected? I also want to point out that I miss Ruby. I would love if they brought her back into the story and incorporate her somehow. (I know it's hard with shows like these that have so many characters. I was watching season 1 the other day with a friend and just missed the simple times.)
I think we're just going to have to wait to see the whole Emma fighting for Hook thing because that's something I really want to see! I thought maybe the whole thing with his heart would have been a perfect setup for that but it didn't happen that way. Maybe the writers have something else in mind. Because you know we know Emma loves Hook they've had these really great moments in the first part of the season where she really opened to him (best ex. being when she was going through her childhood relics) but it's always nice to see the other half fight for the person they love. I believe that in a Downton Abbey fashion they probably already had the discussion about the deal he made with Rumple to get his hand back and about how he was sucked in even further and my guess is that she was just so grateful that he lived through this mess she didn't really have the energy to be angry with him. Like she said she lost Neal and Graham she doesn't want to lose Hook too.
Jacklyn Lawson True but it kinda bothered me that Emma didint really care that hook almost died. i mean i know she does but it didnt really look like it
Is This weird that i really wanted rumple to kill hook? ugh why couldnt rumple get away with killing hook i want rumple to come back to storybrooke sooooooooooo MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ide rather hook die than the most top villian in storybrooke RUMPLESTILTSKIN then THE EVIL QUEEN/Regina
Okay, in this promo David said "Things were just starting to get back to normal". When did things in Story Brooke ever fit this world's definition of normal. First, time was frozen for 28 years, then the town was busy adjusting to magic coming back, then they had to deal with Cora, then Peter Pan, then Zelena, then the Snow Queen, and now after about a month their dealing with the queen of darkness. Things around town were getting back to insanity and normalcy.
To be honest, I wasn't floored by this ep. I think OUAT tried to fit too much into far too few episodes. It wasn't downright horrible, it was a solid finish, but, let's see, they closed the OutlawQueen ship in like 5 minutes, Rumple and Belle's marriage was killed in 5 minutes (although girl power for the win! Go BELLE!), CaptainSwan barely got any screen time although half of the relationship was missing his heart, and additionally, Belle arose from fake comatose state in one episode and stopped Rumple dead. Eh. I mean, it tied the ends together, but (figurative language) with straw, not solid rope. I'm VERY excited for the Dark Trio though. See you in a few months, folks. (If I'm still alive without OUAT every Sunday).
Damn, those Frozen characters grew on me even though I tried desperately not to like them. I wished they became a part of the main cast. I would've liked to see more from Ana/Kristoff and Elsa's friendship with Emma progress.
***** I was concerned the writers wouldn't do the movie justice and "initially" assumed adding the FROZEN arc felt like a cheap way of gaining viewership from it's popularity.
Am I the only one who thinks Robin will come back for Regina? From what I see, his love for Regina is strong, plus, it was her actual happy ending too. T.T
Now what am I supposed to watch on Sunday nights!? D: Guess I'll just re-watch past seasons. Like what I always do when they go on hiatus lol. Also, Queens of Darkness are perfect! Really intrigued with how the rest of the season goes especially with Rumbelle and Outlaw Queen!
If Jafar will return probably will towards at the end of the season as a cliffhanger. And do not think he would join with Rumpelstiltskin. He does not cooperate with anyone. And if he also decide to do so, probably would plan to betray him later.
***** That the point when I said, maybe, Cruella, Ursula, & Maleficent will betray Rumpelstiltskin & joins Jafar (Naveen Andrews). Making his sinister come back huh?
Marc Fried I don't think Jafar will work with them. He has so far always betrayed all his accomplices: Amara, Anastasia, Jabberwock. We have already seen in the first season that Maleficent, despite being evil, has her limits and principles (and therefore her, Ursula and Cruella may very well work together with loyalty between their). Jafar instead, hasn't limits. So he cannot really collaborate with them. The season 4 could also end up like this: Ursula, Cruella, and Maleficent, are defeated, Cruella escapes, finds the bottle of Jafar, she free him, and Jafar kills her for not having to go back into the bottle and for don't granted her wishes.
I will say it now that the Author of the book is baby Neil, his future self that is after all he is the baby of Snow white and Prince Charming ( product of true love) and like his big sister Emma, bro Neil must have the ability to see things....
Okay, I had a theory that Emma discovered that Ingrid was right about her powers shortly after she ran away and somehow found a way into a world with magic ( that wasn't affected by the curse) and met the sorcerer (who ever he is). The sorcerer gave her one of the blank books and she wrote stories that she saw through a crystal ball or something and then she had her memories wiped by an enemy she made and was sent back to this world. I came up with this theory because I think that it'd be an amazing twist, and because I'd like to see more backstories with Emma. I always come up with theories and I'm always either completely wrong or somewhat right. Your theory about the author being Neal from the future is good to. If your theory ends up being right I wouldn't be that upset at all.
Your theory franny fel and the theory of Julian Jane are really cool to see in the show. But I have the feeling that Pinocchio has something to do with the whole story of the writer. I know he's now just a child and almost missing, I might recall it wrong but. Wasn't him the first person having the book?
I hope they would give Hook a backstory about the villains or something because he absolutely didn't have anything to do in the first part of this season rather than being a token love interest for Emma.Don't get me wrong I love Captain Swan and the chemistry those two share but lets be honest what did he do in this season except for being a puppet for Rumple.He is an interesting character and I don't want to see him on only CS scenes.
Very true. One thing that would work is hook having a connection to Ursula, I mean c'mon, the guy traveled through endless seas and dimensions! And he has to know of her myth/legend (even though she's obviously real). He is a sea dweller after that, and wasn't suprised about mermaids at the start of season 3.
Has he had anything to do since season 2? The writers never seem to care about heroes, just about the villains and how evil and complex they can be. They're just letting the heroes sit there.
DarthRushy Well, to be honest I don't see there being anything more really to do with Snow White or Prince Charming 4 seasons in. I'm glad they took a good backdrop in the "Frozen/Snow Queen" arc. But Hook...first of all...why didn't they have some sort of Hook vs. Peter Pan episode back in Season 3? They are enemies, and all it was is "Pan goes this, he does that" Why not have a scene where Pan is just like "I won't use magic" and takes on Hook? Then again that whole story arc was crap. Hook can be involved and do a lot of things, he is being underused, as is Emma's magic ability, she better kick some serious butt in this queens of darkness arc.
why march? and omg i loved this ep and i genuinely think rumple and queens of darkness will try lure in regina but i do want regina to show that shes the queen and kick their ass
The show was skipping every 2-3 weeks to air an episode from the first 2 seasons so after that, the creators realized it'd be better to split the season into 2 halves with an episode each week without skipping so that viewers could "see it all at once" rather than skipping.
I have a suspicion that the author of the book is the head of " apprentice " ( which helps the queen of the snow to get to storybroke ) , I say that when the Snow Queen hat gives the learner , the apprentice says his boss knows everything, then when rumple cap is again what is in the same abandoned house in which henry found the library writer, and do not know why but I think the writer is MERLÍN because Merlin also had a apprentice, and merlin would be as powerful as rumple
Cruella? An evil queen? In what dimension? I adore that character, but she is not an evil queen - her only power is to hire people so they would skin puppies. How is that relevant? And I thought Emma killed Maleficent... How come she will appear as a non-flash-back?
I read in a recent article that Cruella will have somewhat magic and that she may originated from the enchanted forest well their version. They also explained they will explain how Maleficent survive season 1. I have a feeling that their way of reviving Maleficent is that Emma killed Maleficent dragon form instead of her so Rumple made sure she didn't die but left her somewhere in the darkness till its time for them to return. That's my theory of how Maleficent returns lol
immortalangel06 It would have been wiser to use the witch from Kuzco, at least it would have been true to the title; evil, crazy and somewhat a witch Queen.
Anyankasvids I agree with you or Jafar since they brought in Will from the other OUAT. Even maybe Mother Gothel from Tangled can be more believable coming from the Enchanted Forest but Cruella? She seem to modernized to be from there. I feel like they are trying to hard to use all the villians in the disney fairytale even when they aren't originated from enchanted forest they magically somehow are connected to the enchanted forest. In the article it mention that Cruella and Regina did cross paths before (like always Regina knows all the queen of darkness and was like bff with them at some point) Probably next season we get Scar from the Lion King, or other villians from other disney movie to appear!
immortalangel06 probably they'll explain that Cruella came to our world from the enchanted forest before the events of 101 Dalmations. Since there is no magic here before, it would make sense why Cruella won't have any magic then, but she will now.
Im Am 10 years old and i have never EVER EVER! missed a episode of once upon a time it is my favorite show in the whole entire world omg rumple better come back to storybrooke!!! im crazy addicted to this show every day i watch once upon a time on netflix i just keep watching the same episodes over and over again!
I figured out the family tree lol: Ruth is the mother of Prince James and Prince Charming, she is the grandmother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great grandmother of Henry. King George is the adoptive father of Prince James and Prince Charming, which makes him Neal Nolan and Emma Swan's grandfather and Henry's great grandfather. King Leopold is the father of Snow White, the grandfather of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great grandfather of Henry. Queen Eva is the mother of Snow White, the grandmother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great grandmother of Henry. The Miller is Cora's father making him Regina Mills' grandfather, therefore making him Henry and Snow White's great grandfather, Neal Nolan and Emma Swan's great great grandfather and Henry's great great great grandfather. Henry Mills is the father of Regina Mills, making him the grandfather of Henry and Snow White, also making him the great grandfather of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great great grandfather of Henry. Cora Mills is the mother of Regina Mills and Zelena, making her the grandmother of Henry and Snow White, also making her the great grandmother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great great grandmother of Henry. Jonathan is the father of Zelena. Peter Pan is the father of Rumpelstilstkin, making him the grandfather of Baefire and the great grandfather of Henry. Rumpelstilstkin is the father of Baefire, making him the grandfather of Henry. Milah is the mother of Baefire, making her the grandmother of Henry. Regina Mills is the mother of Snow White and the adoptive mother of Henry, making her the grandmother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great grandmother of Henry. Zelena is the sister of Regina Mills, making her the aunt of Henry and Snow White, also making her the great aunt of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great great aunt of Henry. Snow White is the mother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan, making her the grandmother of Henry. Prince Charming is the father of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan, making him the grandfather of Henry. Emma Swan is the mother of Henry. Neal Nolan is the brother of Emma Swan, making him the uncle of Henry. It should also be mentioned that Rumpelstilstikin had a love interest with Cora Mills and then with Belle. Captain Hook had a love interest with Milah and now has a love interest with her daughter through marriage Emma Swan. The Hunter had a love interest with Regina Mills and then had a love interest with Regina's granddaughter through marriage, Emma Swan. A very Complicated family tree, more to add I bet lol There are 2 Henry Mills btw so I decided to just call the younger one Henry.
Last night episode was really great despite the writers doing a complete 180 on Rumple. The conversation between Rumple and Regina was the best for me along with Belle saving the day. I'm looking forward to seeing how this Queens of Darkness arc play out which is probably the reason I don't really care about the author's identity plus we still have Will in the mix so hopefully it won't become too many plotlines all at once.
I'm hoping that Camelot will come into play soon. There has been so many references to it throughout the seasons that I will feel cheated if we don't visit it. There is so much potential there for a great ouat season. The sorcerer Merlin, the sorceress Morgana/ morganouse, lady of the lake, Excalibur, gunivere and lancelot, Mordred etc. And with the indefinite lore they could have tons of fun with that and mixing it into the enchanted forest, we already have met Lancelot and rumple has already been there, it almost too easy! Merlin could be the powerful sorcerer that lives in that house and was banished here during the 28 years but returned by his own means when magic returned, to the safe haven and healed Lancelot. And together they try to return to Camelot. And venture into the enchanted forest until a summoning spell draws merlin back into his own house casted by the dark trio/ rumple or the good squad. Lancelot is drawn too and snow is all happy he is alive. Then merlin takes them to Camelot and voila, Camelot season.
I think Merlin is the author of the books, they made lot of remarks of him in the first half of this season and rumple did say that they house were the empty storybooks are stored belongs to powerful sorcerer!
yo tengo una sospecha de que el autor del libro es el jefe del "aprendiz"(el que ayuda a la reina de la nieves a llegar a storybroke), lo digo porque ,cuando la reina de las nieves le da el sombrero al aprendiz,el aprendiz dice que su jefe sabe todo,entonces cuando rumple encuentra el gorro otra vez lo encuentra en la misma casa abandonada en la cual henry encontró la biblioteca de escritor,y no se porque pero creo que el escritor es MERLÍN porque merlín también tenia un aprendiz,y merlin seria tan poderoso como rumple
"Things were just starting to get back to normal"-Prince Charming, reaaaaaallly? That never happens. You'll be done with one thing and something else will show up (Jafar maybe). Naive hereos will be naive. At this point, one should be worried if something bad doesn't seem to be happening, aka when they realized what Rumple was up to in the tower in episode 12.
I think Rumple is Yen Sid from Fantasia. Explains the walking broom towards the transporter- Also explains the magical hat that belongs to The Sorcerer, and how he knows where this 'author' is. The sorcerer is the author- I also don't think see we the frozen wedding as that will be part of Frozen 2 or the "Wedding Special" Disney shall create
Hey everyone, August/Pinnochio can't be the writer of the storybook because he is a fairytale character, I do think he does know the Author. And a theory, I was thinking that the Author/Sorcerer destroyed himself, but, before he killed himself he made a curse that the 2 remains of him would make a baby (Neil) and the other baby could be Regina's? And then the Author/Sorcerer's life would start all over again? Just a theory, enjoy :)
Anyone notice the first part in this promo we see where Ursula is what it looks like her walking from behind a three never happened? Is it a deleted scene or something?
Am I the only one who thinks that "the author" may be Merlin. Because he is a powerful wizard and it would be nice to see a man wizard. Rumple vs Merlin it would be nice.
Belle made a terrible mistake & she's gonna regret it. No Rumple would never hurt her but now he's really gonna be THE DARK ONE. #TeamRumple. I'll always ship #RumBelle though!
i knew that i`d love cruella why has`nt the snow queen interefered all those times when emma was in danger. i know it`s a fairy tale but they shoudni`t just forsake the story. if there is a season 5 morgan le fay could appear.
I think the Horned King would be the ultimate villain to have in this show he is just pure evil and he is one of the creepiest scariest looking villains ever.
And Baby Neil and Regina's baby would become friends and then Once they come together the Sorcerer/Author would relive. This is part 2 of my theory, leave a comment on what you think of it on my first comment
I\m so confused. On EVERY movie site I go on to watch this show, it always says episode 12 is 'Heroes and Villans' and when I go to watch episode 13, it says its 'Darkness on the edge of town' but it actually isn't? Please help >:(
I'm sad they changed Mal's headpiece. Crazy blonde hair everywhere was a nice look and made her feel like one of OUaT's own. Now she just looks like another movie tie-in.
March 1st? I'm going to die before then! Goddamn it #OUAT you gave Regina like two seconds of happiness. Whyyyyy??? Poor baby Regina! Hey #OnceUponATime writers, why don't you just run me over with a tractor?
you think they're talking about henry or robin when emma says "we'll get him back?" maybe someone kidnapped henry again because i don't know if regina has any hope of seeing robin again
Where is Anastasia, The Red Queen? Will have been around for too long alone, searching for smth in the library (The Book of fairy-tales?)...sad and upset... They left Alice's wedding together truly in love but now she's lost but why, where and when?! Or are all these things happening when Ana is still obsessed with power in Wonderland and Will is on the contrary in the XXI century timeline?
I can't wait for the show to come back on this sunday. can't wait to watch it I wish the Frozen storyline was still on I love Elsa and Anna. I hope Emma won't be evil this season I saw another promo her eyes look scary.
It's not as long a wait as last season, it'll be OK... And I thought Adam and Eddie said that "Once a person dies on the show, they're dead (for good)" so how is Maleficent gonna be brought back I wonder?
March FREAKING MARCH!!!! ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME???? I....I.... just...I mean... I cant I truly cant. Why do the OUAT executives hate us??? Im not known for being a patient person.
Oh my God... I couldn't believe it the first time I saw it but... PAM (Kristin Bauer) FROM TRUE BLOOD IN OUAT*_* She will be an amazing villian, no doubt.
She already appeared in the first season as Maleficent, and was actually killed by Emma when she was in her dragon state, so no clue how she will be back as a non-flash-back mode. Sketchy.
Maleficent and Cruella look great but I'm not impressed with Ursula. I'm sure she'll grow on me. You know what I really want: Pirates of the Caribbean! It would be kind of cool to have more than one pirate in Storybrook, especially if that pirate is Captain Jack Sparrow.
"We'll find him Regina." FIND WHO WHAT HAPPEN! Why does Regina have to have that heart broken I'm gonna cry face! Ugh that face is making my heart hurt! Please tell me they aren't talking about trying to find Henry because Emma looks upset too!
I think it is interesting that people assume Rumple is evil. We don't know that for sure. He is always up to so endgame that no other character sees and the fact that they all found out what was going on with him from Anna who in Frozen has poor judgement of characterization.
He had deceived, murdered, tortured, corrupted, oppressed, betrayed, been a bad samaritan, abused and ruined most lifes. If behaving in that way isn't evil, I don't know what is being evil then.
I have a theory that Regina and Emma are informed that Robin Hood has encountered Rumple, Ursula and Cruella and they have him held hostage along with his family and that's why Regina looks worried and Emma says "We'll find him, Regina."
I'm kind of meh about season 4B. By that, I mean there's things I am dying to see and a big load of dread. I wanna see where they're going with Rumplestiltskin, for obvious reasons. I want Hook and Emma development(don't you dare say they've had enough - they've barely done anything together). And I want to know who the Author is and if August is gonna come back(for real, not just for flashback). I absolutely hate the Queens Of Darkness idea(more boring queens no one will remember), I don't give a crap about Regina or Robin and the new interesting characters from Arendelle are bye-bye(I never saw the movie so I took them just as a great addition to the cast). More deadwood Grumpy and Granny and Mother Superior, probably.
Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact Maleficent did appear earlier in the show and while she was a dragon was killed by Emma? Or she suddenly got an evil twin sister too? ;)
But I don't understand didn't Maleficent become that entity or whatever in season 3, trapped under the library.....? So how is it possible for her to be here now? And they so totally changed her clothing..starting from the pink purple dress with blonde hair and tiny unicorn to the one we recognise... How are they going to explain that one?!
Wow! That Cruella car looks even better than the one in the Glenn Close films. More angular, broad, and dangerous.
This cruella rocks! She is amazing and has amazing outfits
Only little complain is the plate is Dev il it would be better if it's De vil for Cruella De vil oh well it's still good tho.
MARCH?!?!?! UUUMMMM NO!! Why are they doing this again? I did like the no break thing, but I'd rather have the breaks than wait this long for OUAT. UGH!
And poor Regina! They literally gave her five whole seconds of happiness before they snatched it away.
I feel the same
1089aef Because people have been complaining with the 2-3 week breaks in between 2-3 weeks of episodes. Kinda ruins the momentum.
It worked for ABC Family's dramas where they also have 20-24 episodes a season so it should work as well for ABC's Revenge, OUAT, Scandal, Murder and Grey's etc.
They discovered it helps with ratings and people aren't wondering when they next new epi shows up. Plus the cable networks do it and it seems to work for them so abc, nbc, cbs started doing similar
They keep doing that.
Like everytime it's a season finale they give her 30 seconds of happiness.
And then they're like "Nope!"
She was CHOSEN! And still ended with nothing.
It's just not right.
+1089aef I am pretty sure Regina and Meleficent have a duel because Regina turned her into a dragon for 28 years so that would make sense and the sorcerer is the author because he had that time travel thingy door in the ingrid scene so
It's so annoying how they destroyed Rumble. They had given him so much character development and within a few episodes they have completely destroyed it.
sadly, some people have a very hard time changing. some people pretend to change for a while only for a few years later go back to their same old ways. just... it happens... :/ that scene between with belle and rumple felt all too familiar and sad...
So it's Hooks fault he killed Zelena (I know she killed his son and made him her slave.) and lied about it? It's Hook's fault he switched his dagger the one he gave his wife to keep away from him? Come on I like Rumple but we can't keep blaming others for his actions. He's the same guy who crushed his wifes heart, chose magic over his son etc...
I think it makes his character much more interesting. The fact that he managed to get that glove back no matter what is exactly the same thing he did (in the future where he supposedly changed in heart) with giving Belle the fake dagger. If you compare him to Regina, you can see that his path to good is corrupt and much more complex than Regina's. Regina's evil began from hatred and betrayal; it's more based on her connection with people and those she have lost. (Daniel, her father, etc.) Her love for Henry made her want to be a better person and it wasn't smooth sailing for her at all. Rumple wanted to change for his son, but then he died thanks to Zelena. Rumple also died saving everyone else, and was brought back and became Zelena's personal slave. From there his fear for imprisonment grew stronger, and he acted out accordingly. Because when Rumple feels threatened, he has to fix things no matter the consequences. If you read the recent articles where they interview the writers, they talk more about how they see Rumple's character. They don't think he's evil, just somehow who's frightened. Because without magic or power he's a nobody and this is evident to how he feels about his past. I attempt I disliked Rumple a lot for hurting Hook, but I am glad things are okay and he got what he deserved. Oh and I am glad Belle did what she had to do.
He's not destroyed. The writers said this will be "the beginning of RumBelle". I feel like the thing he did wrong was lying to Belle. Trying to kill Hook & wanting to separate himself from the dagger made complete sense.
Not only did he lie to Belle, but he offered something she never asked for; his dagger. Thus creating this false hope that she means more than his power. That he trusts her with his life and that's what it means to be with someone truly. But alas the dagger was fake, and he didn't care about killing people. I understand where he's going through; I thought I hated his character but I really don't. Especially with how the writers described him it makes sense. I also understand if they weren't married and this was back in season one I can accept this, but they've gone through a lot already. It's the same crap, so it can't be that easy to fix Rumbelle.
Hook and Emma holding hands
As much as I am going to miss the Frozen characters (they had the perfect casting omg I loved it) I am glad they're gone so that a new story can be told for the second half. Plus it'll bring back focus to the other characters (like Snow and Charming who were kind of in the background of things and I truly miss them being part of the action). The new villains too bring me all these ideas of how they are connected to the other characters, and how they managed to get to our world (magic-free). Like Ursula was presented differently in season three (which seemed like a twist because we all expected she would show up and she didn't in Ariel's arc) so I would love an explanation on that. And she must have crossed paths with Hook possibly. (Which reminds me...I would love if Hook can get the Jolly Roger back) And then obviously Maleficent and Evil Queen have had a past. Probably connected to Snow and Charming as well. It would be nice if they showed Aurora and maybe she would be connected? I also want to point out that I miss Ruby. I would love if they brought her back into the story and incorporate her somehow. (I know it's hard with shows like these that have so many characters. I was watching season 1 the other day with a friend and just missed the simple times.)
I hope Emma will surprise Hook by taking him to get the Jolly Roger back! Or she does it herself...either way
I'm so happy Hook got his heart back. But the writers said that Emma would fight for him but belle saved him not emma.
I think we're just going to have to wait to see the whole Emma fighting for Hook thing because that's something I really want to see! I thought maybe the whole thing with his heart would have been a perfect setup for that but it didn't happen that way. Maybe the writers have something else in mind. Because you know we know Emma loves Hook they've had these really great moments in the first part of the season where she really opened to him (best ex. being when she was going through her childhood relics) but it's always nice to see the other half fight for the person they love. I believe that in a Downton Abbey fashion they probably already had the discussion about the deal he made with Rumple to get his hand back and about how he was sucked in even further and my guess is that she was just so grateful that he lived through this mess she didn't really have the energy to be angry with him. Like she said she lost Neal and Graham she doesn't want to lose Hook too.
Jacklyn Lawson True but it kinda bothered me that Emma didint really care that hook almost died. i mean i know she does but it didnt really look like it
***** Where did you find the photos?
***** thanks
Is This weird that i really wanted rumple to kill hook? ugh why couldnt rumple get away with killing hook i want rumple to come back to storybrooke sooooooooooo MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ide rather hook die than the most top villian in storybrooke RUMPLESTILTSKIN then THE EVIL QUEEN/Regina
Okay, in this promo David said "Things were just starting to get back to normal". When did things in Story Brooke ever fit this world's definition of normal. First, time was frozen for 28 years, then the town was busy adjusting to magic coming back, then they had to deal with Cora, then Peter Pan, then Zelena, then the Snow Queen, and now after about a month their dealing with the queen of darkness. Things around town were getting back to insanity and normalcy.
hahaha!
Jess Mariano I know that. I was saying that insanity and danger is normal for Storybrooke and that relaxing, quiet, and calm days aren't.
1089aef They'll probably mention what they've been up and we might get some small flashbacks from it in the future.
To be honest, I wasn't floored by this ep. I think OUAT tried to fit too much into far too few episodes. It wasn't downright horrible, it was a solid finish, but, let's see, they closed the OutlawQueen ship in like 5 minutes, Rumple and Belle's marriage was killed in 5 minutes (although girl power for the win! Go BELLE!), CaptainSwan barely got any screen time although half of the relationship was missing his heart, and additionally, Belle arose from fake comatose state in one episode and stopped Rumple dead. Eh. I mean, it tied the ends together, but (figurative language) with straw, not solid rope. I'm VERY excited for the Dark Trio though. See you in a few months, folks. (If I'm still alive without OUAT every Sunday).
YASSS! Comes back on my freaking birthday! Best present ever is getting to see all of my loves!!!!!
Damn, those Frozen characters grew on me even though I tried desperately not to like them. I wished they became a part of the main cast. I would've liked to see more from Ana/Kristoff and Elsa's friendship with Emma progress.
I REALLY wanted them to stay!!! Why didn't you want to like them though??
***** I was concerned the writers wouldn't do the movie justice and "initially" assumed adding the FROZEN arc felt like a cheap way of gaining viewership from it's popularity.
Dartz931
Ahh I see... good point
Just so you all know, ya can't ruin Frozen. It's just that good! XD
MJlover3600 LOL
WHAT ABOUT BELLE? How's she doing now that you know she's all alone?!? She ya know just saved Storybrooke.
There's Robin?
Means, he's coming back!!
id think so :/ :?
They show us the moment he crossed the line... I think they just going to mention him :/
i want rumple backkkk
And I want Will to get more screentime. But he never get what we want, don't we?
***** Apparently it was always planned that his role would be expanded in the second half.
You want darkness i'll give you darkness love that part from maleficent
Am I the only one who thinks Robin will come back for Regina? From what I see, his love for Regina is strong, plus, it was her actual happy ending too. T.T
Now what am I supposed to watch on Sunday nights!? D: Guess I'll just re-watch past seasons. Like what I always do when they go on hiatus lol. Also, Queens of Darkness are perfect! Really intrigued with how the rest of the season goes especially with Rumbelle and Outlaw Queen!
Downton Abbey is wonderful! That's what I watch when ONCE goes on break.
Watch revenge it is great!
yes, watch revenge!!!
Jacklyn Lawson Thanks for the recommendation! I'll look into it :)
Luca Giliberti Heard a lot of great things about it... Might give it a shot, thanks! :)
Maybe, Cruella, Ursula, & Maleficent will betray Rumpelstiltskin & joins Jafar (Naveen Andrews). Making his sinister come back huh?
If Jafar will return probably will towards at the end of the season as a cliffhanger. And do not think he would join with Rumpelstiltskin. He does not cooperate with anyone. And if he also decide to do so, probably would plan to betray him later.
Whidlean Hyppolite We want Jafar (Naveen Andrews) back please!, thank you.
***** That the point when I said, maybe, Cruella, Ursula, & Maleficent will betray Rumpelstiltskin & joins Jafar (Naveen Andrews). Making his sinister come back huh?
Marc Fried I don't think Jafar will work with them. He has so far always betrayed all his accomplices: Amara, Anastasia, Jabberwock. We have already seen in the first season that Maleficent, despite being evil, has her limits and principles (and therefore her, Ursula and Cruella may very well work together with loyalty between their). Jafar instead, hasn't limits. So he cannot really collaborate with them. The season 4 could also end up like this: Ursula, Cruella, and Maleficent, are defeated, Cruella escapes, finds the bottle of Jafar, she free him, and Jafar kills her for not having to go back into the bottle and for don't granted her wishes.
It is much more likely that Rumple will betray them than they will betray him.
I will say it now that the Author of the book is baby Neil, his future self that is after all he is the baby of Snow white and Prince Charming ( product of true love) and like his big sister Emma, bro Neil must have the ability to see things....
that would be seriously twisted. i like it!
you should give your idea that company who run this show
that would be so cool!!!
Okay, I had a theory that Emma discovered that Ingrid was right about her powers shortly after she ran away and somehow found a way into a world with magic ( that wasn't affected by the curse) and met the sorcerer (who ever he is). The sorcerer gave her one of the blank books and she wrote stories that she saw through a crystal ball or something and then she had her memories wiped by an enemy she made and was sent back to this world. I came up with this theory because I think that it'd be an amazing twist, and because I'd like to see more backstories with Emma. I always come up with theories and I'm always either completely wrong or somewhat right. Your theory about the author being Neal from the future is good to. If your theory ends up being right I wouldn't be that upset at all.
Your theory franny fel and the theory of Julian Jane are really cool to see in the show. But I have the feeling that Pinocchio has something to do with the whole story of the writer. I know he's now just a child and almost missing, I might recall it wrong but. Wasn't him the first person having the book?
Holy Crap!!!!!!!!! I cannot wait! I'm literally crying right now!!
March common every show is returning the second week of january.
Cant Wait To See the look on there faces when Rumple returns to storybrooke hahahahah!
This Cruella is so amazing! Is the better done among the three!
13 days before my b-day :D What a gift! The 14th episode will be one day before the actual day (14). Just needed to share this.
woohoooooo the back of that car said DEV IL CRUELLA DEVIL BABYYYYY!!!!!!!!!! WOOHOOO i cant wait to they ride back into storybrooke!
I hope they would give Hook a backstory about the villains or something because he absolutely didn't have anything to do in the first part of this season rather than being a token love interest for Emma.Don't get me wrong I love Captain Swan and the chemistry those two share but lets be honest what did he do in this season except for being a puppet for Rumple.He is an interesting character and I don't want to see him on only CS scenes.
Seconded! :)
Very true. One thing that would work is hook having a connection to Ursula, I mean c'mon, the guy traveled through endless seas and dimensions! And he has to know of her myth/legend (even though she's obviously real). He is a sea dweller after that, and wasn't suprised about mermaids at the start of season 3.
Has he had anything to do since season 2?
The writers never seem to care about heroes, just about the villains and how evil and complex they can be. They're just letting the heroes sit there.
DarthRushy
Well, to be honest I don't see there being anything more really to do with Snow White or Prince Charming 4 seasons in. I'm glad they took a good backdrop in the "Frozen/Snow Queen" arc. But Hook...first of all...why didn't they have some sort of Hook vs. Peter Pan episode back in Season 3? They are enemies, and all it was is "Pan goes this, he does that" Why not have a scene where Pan is just like "I won't use magic" and takes on Hook? Then again that whole story arc was crap. Hook can be involved and do a lot of things, he is being underused, as is Emma's magic ability, she better kick some serious butt in this queens of darkness arc.
***** That's why the first season can't be topped.
OH MY GOD !!!!
HAVE ANY SPELL DOING IN LEAD UP TO MARCH 2015 ????
why march? and omg i loved this ep and i genuinely think rumple and queens of darkness will try lure in regina but i do want regina to show that shes the queen and kick their ass
The show was skipping every 2-3 weeks to air an episode from the first 2 seasons so after that, the creators realized it'd be better to split the season into 2 halves with an episode each week without skipping so that viewers could "see it all at once" rather than skipping.
I have a suspicion that the author of the book is the head of " apprentice " ( which helps the queen of the snow to get to storybroke ) , I say that when the Snow Queen hat gives the learner , the apprentice says his boss knows everything, then when rumple cap is again what is in the same abandoned house in which henry found the library writer, and do not know why but I think the writer is MERLÍN because Merlin also had a apprentice, and merlin would be as powerful as rumple
Cruella? An evil queen? In what dimension? I adore that character, but she is not an evil queen - her only power is to hire people so they would skin puppies. How is that relevant? And I thought Emma killed Maleficent... How come she will appear as a non-flash-back?
I read in a recent article that Cruella will have somewhat magic and that she may originated from the enchanted forest well their version. They also explained they will explain how Maleficent survive season 1. I have a feeling that their way of reviving Maleficent is that Emma killed Maleficent dragon form instead of her so Rumple made sure she didn't die but left her somewhere in the darkness till its time for them to return. That's my theory of how Maleficent returns lol
immortalangel06 It would have been wiser to use the witch from Kuzco, at least it would have been true to the title; evil, crazy and somewhat a witch Queen.
Anyankasvids I agree with you or Jafar since they brought in Will from the other OUAT. Even maybe Mother Gothel from Tangled can be more believable coming from the Enchanted Forest but Cruella? She seem to modernized to be from there. I feel like they are trying to hard to use all the villians in the disney fairytale even when they aren't originated from enchanted forest they magically somehow are connected to the enchanted forest. In the article it mention that Cruella and Regina did cross paths before (like always Regina knows all the queen of darkness and was like bff with them at some point)
Probably next season we get Scar from the Lion King, or other villians from other disney movie to appear!
Cruella is the character I'm most excited about next half season! And I love that the writer's gave her magic!
immortalangel06
probably they'll explain that Cruella came to our world from the enchanted forest before the events of 101 Dalmations. Since there is no magic here before, it would make sense why Cruella won't have any magic then, but she will now.
What the hell did we as fans do that made them say...
"Let them wait till March."
Fangirl Sadness ;_;
omg Cruella is perfection!!!!!!
Im Am 10 years old and i have never EVER EVER! missed a episode of once upon a time it is my favorite show in the whole entire world omg rumple better come back to storybrooke!!! im crazy addicted to this show every day i watch once upon a time on netflix i just keep watching the same episodes over and over again!
Than you have an addiction problem lol, jk I LOVE ONCE UPON A TIME SOOOOOOOO MUCH!
It's not really an addiction I just love the show
ahhh super excited!!! also i hope robin comes back i was so sad /:
I believe he does.
Guys...i think Reginas preggers O.o
Same hun, same..
I figured out the family tree lol:
Ruth is the mother of Prince James and Prince Charming, she is the grandmother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great grandmother of Henry.
King George is the adoptive father of Prince James and Prince Charming, which makes him Neal Nolan and Emma Swan's grandfather and Henry's great grandfather.
King Leopold is the father of Snow White, the grandfather of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great grandfather of Henry.
Queen Eva is the mother of Snow White, the grandmother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great grandmother of Henry.
The Miller is Cora's father making him Regina Mills' grandfather, therefore making him Henry and Snow White's great grandfather, Neal Nolan and Emma Swan's great great grandfather and Henry's great great great grandfather.
Henry Mills is the father of Regina Mills, making him the grandfather of Henry and Snow White, also making him the great grandfather of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great great grandfather of Henry.
Cora Mills is the mother of Regina Mills and Zelena, making her the grandmother of Henry and Snow White, also making her the great grandmother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great great grandmother of Henry.
Jonathan is the father of Zelena.
Peter Pan is the father of Rumpelstilstkin, making him the grandfather of Baefire and the great grandfather of Henry.
Rumpelstilstkin is the father of Baefire, making him the grandfather of Henry.
Milah is the mother of Baefire, making her the grandmother of Henry.
Regina Mills is the mother of Snow White and the adoptive mother of Henry, making her the grandmother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great grandmother of Henry.
Zelena is the sister of Regina Mills, making her the aunt of Henry and Snow White, also making her the great aunt of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan and the great great aunt of Henry.
Snow White is the mother of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan, making her the grandmother of Henry.
Prince Charming is the father of Emma Swan and Neal Nolan, making him the grandfather of Henry.
Emma Swan is the mother of Henry.
Neal Nolan is the brother of Emma Swan, making him the uncle of Henry.
It should also be mentioned that Rumpelstilstikin had a love interest with Cora Mills and then with Belle.
Captain Hook had a love interest with Milah and now has a love interest with her daughter through marriage Emma Swan.
The Hunter had a love interest with Regina Mills and then had a love interest with Regina's granddaughter through marriage, Emma Swan.
A very Complicated family tree, more to add I bet lol
There are 2 Henry Mills btw so I decided to just call the younger one Henry.
Woah. You're looking way too far into it. Relax, dude.
LavenderThe Flower What you mean? It's actually not complicated at all.
The Huntsman was RAPED by Regina, via heart controlling.
Out of all the couples.....Regina and Robin
Last night episode was really great despite the writers doing a complete 180 on Rumple. The conversation between Rumple and Regina was the best for me along with Belle saving the day. I'm looking forward to seeing how this Queens of Darkness arc play out which is probably the reason I don't really care about the author's identity plus we still have Will in the mix so hopefully it won't become too many plotlines all at once.
I am so happy to see Maleficent since I love the actress as Pam from true Blood
Аааааааааа обожаю Однажды в Сказке!
I'm hoping that Camelot will come into play soon. There has been so many references to it throughout the seasons that I will feel cheated if we don't visit it. There is so much potential there for a great ouat season. The sorcerer Merlin, the sorceress Morgana/ morganouse, lady of the lake, Excalibur, gunivere and lancelot, Mordred etc. And with the indefinite lore they could have tons of fun with that and mixing it into the enchanted forest, we already have met Lancelot and rumple has already been there, it almost too easy!
Merlin could be the powerful sorcerer that lives in that house and was banished here during the 28 years but returned by his own means when magic returned, to the safe haven and healed Lancelot. And together they try to return to Camelot. And venture into the enchanted forest until a summoning spell draws merlin back into his own house casted by the dark trio/ rumple or the good squad. Lancelot is drawn too and snow is all happy he is alive. Then merlin takes them to Camelot and voila, Camelot season.
i'm really going to miss this NOOOOOOOOOOOO
We still don't know why Will Scarlet is in Storybrook!
I think Merlin is the author of the books, they made lot of remarks of him in the first half of this season and rumple did say that they house were the empty storybooks are stored belongs to powerful sorcerer!
yo tengo una sospecha de que el autor del libro es el jefe del "aprendiz"(el que ayuda a la reina de la nieves a llegar a storybroke), lo digo porque ,cuando la reina de las nieves le da el sombrero al aprendiz,el aprendiz dice que su jefe sabe todo,entonces cuando rumple encuentra el gorro otra vez lo encuentra en la misma casa abandonada en la cual henry encontró la biblioteca de escritor,y no se porque pero creo que el escritor es MERLÍN porque merlín también tenia un aprendiz,y merlin seria tan poderoso como rumple
7 more days! WHO'S READY?
"Things were just starting to get back to normal"-Prince Charming, reaaaaaallly? That never happens. You'll be done with one thing and something else will show up (Jafar maybe). Naive hereos will be naive. At this point, one should be worried if something bad doesn't seem to be happening, aka when they realized what Rumple was up to in the tower in episode 12.
POOR REGINA !! AND BELLE!! 😩😩😩😩😫😖😖😭😭
MARCH?????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I think Rumple is Yen Sid from Fantasia. Explains the walking broom towards the transporter- Also explains the magical hat that belongs to The Sorcerer, and how he knows where this 'author' is. The sorcerer is the author- I also don't think see we the frozen wedding as that will be part of Frozen 2 or the "Wedding Special" Disney shall create
Hey everyone, August/Pinnochio can't be the writer of the storybook because he is a fairytale character, I do think he does know the Author. And a theory, I was thinking that the Author/Sorcerer destroyed himself, but, before he killed himself he made a curse that the 2 remains of him would make a baby (Neil) and the other baby could be Regina's? And then the Author/Sorcerer's life would start all over again? Just a theory, enjoy :)
What about Anna's wedding with kristoff? They never showed it! Even the battle between Anna and Hans! I wanna watch it now!!!!!
Anyone notice the first part in this promo we see where Ursula is what it looks like her walking from behind a three never happened? Is it a deleted scene or something?
I hope that Rumplestiltskin reforms and gets back together with Belle. After all, he may be a villain but I still feel sorry for him.
Am I the only one who thinks that "the author" may be Merlin. Because he is a powerful wizard and it would be nice to see a man wizard. Rumple vs Merlin it would be nice.
Someone could make a caption for the video and post it here in the comments, please?
Belle made a terrible mistake & she's gonna regret it. No Rumple would never hurt her but now he's really gonna be THE DARK ONE. #TeamRumple. I'll always ship #RumBelle though!
rumple better ride right back into storybrooke hahaahah!
Someone knows what is the promo's music?
My favorite character in this promo...the car
i knew that i`d love cruella
why has`nt the snow queen interefered all those times when emma was in danger. i know it`s a fairy tale but they shoudni`t just forsake the story.
if there is a season 5 morgan le fay could appear.
Cant wait....
This is a promo for 4x13 not 4x12 .... Season 4, episode 12 is the last one released.
I kinda need this new half season NOW
I think the Horned King would be the ultimate villain to have in this show he is just pure evil and he is one of the creepiest scariest looking villains ever.
And Baby Neil and Regina's baby would become friends and then Once they come together the Sorcerer/Author would relive.
This is part 2 of my theory, leave a comment on what you think of it on my first comment
According to previous seasons, when would the fifht season start?
I\m so confused.
On EVERY movie site I go on to watch this show, it always says episode 12 is 'Heroes and Villans' and when I go to watch episode 13, it says its 'Darkness on the edge of town' but it actually isn't? Please help >:(
I'm sad they changed Mal's headpiece. Crazy blonde hair everywhere was a nice look and made her feel like one of OUaT's own. Now she just looks like another movie tie-in.
Holy SHIT I've missed 2 episodes because I thought 4x09 was the winter finale. :l
THIS SPRING...
Episode premieres March 1st it's still Winter lol....
Oh gaaaawd!!! Oh well ill go back & see what happened to maleficient in the past episodes.
March 1st? I'm going to die before then! Goddamn it #OUAT you gave Regina like two seconds of happiness. Whyyyyy??? Poor baby Regina! Hey #OnceUponATime writers, why don't you just run me over with a tractor?
you think they're talking about henry or robin when emma says "we'll get him back?" maybe someone kidnapped henry again because i don't know if regina has any hope of seeing robin again
i loved the first half of the 4th season, i loved the movie Frozen and the Snow Queen is one of my favorite Fairy tales.
Still want to know how is maleficent alive again...
Where is Anastasia, The Red Queen? Will have been around for too long alone, searching for smth in the library (The Book of fairy-tales?)...sad and upset... They left Alice's wedding together truly in love but now she's lost but why, where and when?! Or are all these things happening when Ana is still obsessed with power in Wonderland and Will is on the contrary in the XXI century timeline?
Pam
TOMORROW IS MARCH FIRST!! :DDD
I get curious and think about what would have happened if instead Belle had thrown the daggers across the town
That license plate is wrong I couldn't sworn her last name was De Vil not Dev il
I can't wait for the show to come back on this sunday. can't wait to watch it I wish the Frozen storyline was still on I love Elsa and Anna. I hope Emma won't be evil this season I saw another promo her eyes look scary.
It's not as long a wait as last season, it'll be OK...
And I thought Adam and Eddie said that "Once a person dies on the show, they're dead (for good)" so how is Maleficent gonna be brought back I wonder?
These 3 makes me think of Warren,Jonathan&Andrew from"Buffy-the Vampire Slayer".-___-|||
March FREAKING MARCH!!!! ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME???? I....I.... just...I mean... I cant I truly cant. Why do the OUAT executives hate us??? Im not known for being a patient person.
Oh my God... I couldn't believe it the first time I saw it but... PAM (Kristin Bauer) FROM TRUE BLOOD IN OUAT*_* She will be an amazing villian, no doubt.
She already appeared in the first season as Maleficent, and was actually killed by Emma when she was in her dragon state, so no clue how she will be back as a non-flash-back mode. Sketchy.
Anyankasvids I think Rumple, Ursula and Cruella will find a way to resurrect Maleficent. They'll probably have to break the laws of magic, though.
Anyankasvids She was undead.
Maleficent and Cruella look great but I'm not impressed with Ursula. I'm sure she'll grow on me. You know what I really want: Pirates of the Caribbean! It would be kind of cool to have more than one pirate in Storybrook, especially if that pirate is Captain Jack Sparrow.
"We'll find him Regina."
FIND WHO WHAT HAPPEN! Why does Regina have to have that heart broken I'm gonna cry face!
Ugh that face is making my heart hurt! Please tell me they aren't talking about trying to find Henry because Emma looks upset too!
I think they are talking about Robin Hood, the plot so far lines up with it, plus they can't have Henry going missing too many times.
I think it is interesting that people assume Rumple is evil. We don't know that for sure. He is always up to so endgame that no other character sees and the fact that they all found out what was going on with him from Anna who in Frozen has poor judgement of characterization.
He had deceived, murdered, tortured, corrupted, oppressed, betrayed, been a bad samaritan, abused and ruined most lifes. If behaving in that way isn't evil, I don't know what is being evil then.
I have a theory that Regina and Emma are informed that Robin Hood has encountered Rumple, Ursula and Cruella and they have him held hostage along with his family and that's why Regina looks worried and Emma says "We'll find him, Regina."
wow that's a good theory. I just thought Regina was sad because Robin is gone.
I'm kind of meh about season 4B. By that, I mean there's things I am dying to see and a big load of dread.
I wanna see where they're going with Rumplestiltskin, for obvious reasons. I want Hook and Emma development(don't you dare say they've had enough - they've barely done anything together). And I want to know who the Author is and if August is gonna come back(for real, not just for flashback).
I absolutely hate the Queens Of Darkness idea(more boring queens no one will remember), I don't give a crap about Regina or Robin and the new interesting characters from Arendelle are bye-bye(I never saw the movie so I took them just as a great addition to the cast). More deadwood Grumpy and Granny and Mother Superior, probably.
***** What movie?
***** Given that I loved their half of the season, I just might. :D
***** I remember watching the Snow Queen on stage. It scared the bejeezus out of me.
whatttttttttttttttttttt march?!!!?!?!??!! they cant do that?!!?!?!?!?
Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact Maleficent did appear earlier in the show and while she was a dragon was killed by Emma? Or she suddenly got an evil twin sister too? ;)
OMG Does Regina have the Dark One Dagger !????????????????
i think regina wants to find robin cos she is PREGNANT (silently hoping)
MARCH THE FIRST, SERIOUSLY?!!!
MARCH 1st!!!! SHOOT ME NOW!!! ITS OVER FVFIGJKDIKGFDKFD SORRY IM RAGING, MARCH 1ST ARE YOU KIDDING ME 3 MONTHS OMG
But I don't understand didn't Maleficent become that entity or whatever in season 3, trapped under the library.....? So how is it possible for her to be here now? And they so totally changed her clothing..starting from the pink purple dress with blonde hair and tiny unicorn to the one we recognise... How are they going to explain that one?!
What did he just say? March 1?
THERE BETTER BE LOTS OF CAPTAIN SWAN THIS HALF OF THE SEASON
Wasn't Maleficent the dragon in like season one? I thought we already covered her story. Did she die or something?
& as for my Disney's Ursula, I think Kate Beckinsale should play the part, & Tim Burton should direct it would any of you?