This whole season is just going to be one big gaslighting effort against Lindsay, just like the last season. 😕 Bravo really hates strong, independent women.
The house is so light and fun without her or Danielle. I say Danielle too because she hung around Lindsay and was manipulated and brainwashed so much that she’s now just like Lindsay.
I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
As someone who is sober I questioned his sobriety too, he's not fully sober though so that thought will always cross her mind, he still smokes weed doesn't he
@@carol2sweets928 He does smoke weed. I do understand what you’re saying. I think he smokes weed for anxiety. If weed is not his trigger for his drugs & alcohol abuse, then I don’t see a problem with it. People take pills for anxiety. I have friends that weed makes them want to drink, & drinking makes them want to do coke. Once on coke, they will go for days & get lost. 😞 So, I do understand it can be a slippery slope for people.
Lindsay's favorite thing to do is talk about how bad*ss Lindsay is. Her perspective on this breakup is utterly bananas. Like she's basically saying, "I was willing to do the work & he wasn't" 🙄 Umm what?!? He was trying to approach the relationship with an emotional maturity that she can't even acknowledge she lacks, let alone actually *ever* possess. I can't imagine how frustrating it was for Carl to try & maturely talk through the issues at hand, with Lindsay over here in denial-l Pand like "I'm amazing, so if there's a problem, you must b on drugs". She was in denial just wanting the fairy tale ending, ignoring the reality at hand. It seems he used every pair of kids gloves he could access to try & make the situation something it wasn't, & based on Lindsay's response to it all, never would b. Zero acknowledge of their problems, let alone any accountability for them.
@@RealityTvLover I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Yes, relationships take work but in 4 episodes Lindsay has taken no time to look at herself and work on herself shes never apologized or taken ownership she's only ever blamed Carl and demanded he fixes things which in all the years theyve been on the show we've seen the growth from him
I can’t stop staring at Amanda’s over sized blazer…when they do a shot of her upper body she looks like a little kid dressed up in a large man’s blazer.
The amount of Lindsay hate is crazy. All of these other heffers are sloppy and ridiculous, but Lindsay is the problem? Ok. I mean Amanda literally chased Kyle forever and he was an absolute mess. These comments just show who has actually watched the show from the beginning and those who are brand new 😑.
@@reneegolovacha1880 I have watched from season 1, when the twins and Steven were on. I have watched through Lindsay's relationship with Everett, where she acted like a complete lunatic. I watched her relationship with Stravy, where she acted like a complete lunatic. And now Carl, where she also, you guessed it, acted like a complete lunatic. She's INSANE. Self-involved. She's a walking poster child for Borderline Personality Disorder.
Gabi crazy. if you’re working HARD on your sobriety, and your LIFE partner, the person you wanna have kids with, live with, marry, etc etc, questions that?!? In a drunken rage and stupor?! Liiiike that’s relationship ending. Straight up.
lol Lindsay has done ZERO self introspection. I would’ve thought watching the season back would be eye opening. Also, Gaby, such an enabler! Jesus tell your friend when she is wrong.
Amanda speaks like she knows what's best for Kyle but when I hear Kyle speak, there are so many layers to get through that she seems to ignore. And that he feels everything is on him and over functions is a giant flag that he needs therapy to figure that out. And she does seem to be a bit entitled to being provided for...Paige needs to get them to go to therapy lol.
I must be blind because all I see is Carl working on communicating with Lindsay and Lindsay getting black out drunk and/or walking away from any conflict.
yeahhh he seems to be trying to communicate and respect her needs, he apologises for things he basically didn’t do and she’s just like “yeah thank you” instead of recognising that she hurt his feelings and said something that’s absolutely out of order. The way she said he wanted her to be someone else is comical to me, at least from what we are seeing…
I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Lindsay can't see herself and how her lack of healthy conflict resolution and manipulation causes the demise of all her partnerships. But most everyone else can see it.
I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Lindsey makes me feel like she would be upset at the wall😂 Like why is this wall here?! Wanting to control things, manipulate and avoid reality. It seems to be her thing..Why rush when you can simply ride the 🌊 until you are TRULY ready…. Exhausting!!
I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Wanting to live in the city & wanting to live in the suburbs are completely different vibes. That’s the kind of stuff you talk about seriously before getting married.
Kyle - my hubs damn near had a heart attack when I first mentioned buying a house. He literally had a panic attack. That said we bought a house 37yrs ago - still in the same house actually - he was SO proud to own his own home. You are afraid of the unknown. Jump - you will survive.
Lyndsey doesn't understand that there is a difference between normal healthy conflict in relationships and a toxic relationship. She's been wired to think a dysfunctional relationship is normal.
The problem with Kyle and Amanda is that Kyle cheated on her. Now Amanda feels like Kyle owes her and should get whatever she wants without question including being a stay at home mom which is just not feasible in this day and age for most people. She also has the backing from her parents against Kyle all the time. It’s time for Amanda to grow up IMO. It seems like none of them are happy! Amanda needs to divorce Kyle and marry an older, taller (but uglier) and richer man who never cheated on you. There’s still plenty of time for her to do this! Kyle needs to be single.
Lindsay sees what she wants to see! Everyone else really going on. She really needs to look towards her self and stop blaming everybody else! She really needs to have a come to Jesus talk with herself and do some heavy duty soul-searching!
Gabby saying she didn't see anything relationship ending is wild!! Especially, when we all watched the first 4 episodes where Lindsay questioned Carl's sobriety multiple times!!!
If kymanda move out to jersey now… they will be MISERABLE. He will spend way more time outside of the home, while Amanda sits in a big beautiful house by herself calling him 47x and destroying his things every other weekend. 😂
Lindsay is a dangerous woman, her tears could cause some damage. Carl should have never got back with her, that was not smart. Love Ciara, Paige, and Amanda. Kyle is a cool friend to offer Carl a job.
Thank God they didn’t get married!! And no wonder Gabby hasn’t found anyone. She is crazy to go along with Lindsay’s ideologies. And Lindsay doesn’t want kids. She also wants to party. It’s so obvious and that’s ok too.
1. Kyle explaining Amanda watching tv and not caring to socialise- 😂 she’s a fucking vibe! 2. Lindsay shutting down the sober sports bar idea 😂 Fucking great 😂 I lover her 😂
This gives a lot of insight. I feel bad Lindsay thought they had to do it so soon for that reason. I get where they're both coming from kinda. For Kyle and Amanda I think there's a really big thing they need to talk about with what Kyle says here. Mainly where he says he feels like everything falls on him. I think that's more common than people realize and it CAN be fixed. It comes down to just setting realistic expectations of each other otherwise resentment will overtake it. Kyle can have a social life and a family life but it will look different snd Amanda needs to get clear about what he should expect from her and feel confident on whatever "contribution" she's making and if there's an imbalance with that now it will definitely balance more once Amanda is home with kids if that's what she wants to do or if she has other passions she wants to do while getting child care. Kyle needs to accept whatever way she envisions it and they just need clear expectations of each other. I think they can do it though and will love their family life.
I recently rewatched the whole series and it’s shocking how manipulative and vicious Lindsey has ALWAYS been. It’s disturbing to see her lack of growth and treatment of others over years. It’s very obvious when you see it chronologically that lindsey was never a good look. she’s not just a reactive bully she has severe issues, including a binge drinking problem
If Kyle keeps saying that he is responsible for everything or nothing will get done, what does Amanda actually do? Why doesn't he give up some control and have her be involved in things in the marriage?
She's lazy and relies on him to sort things out..business, car, apartment stuff...heck even has to drive her to the Hamptons every week...when does she ever drive him up there?
Gabby's not delusional- its being in THAT moment... Remember how we talk... Most women want or at least talk as - being relatable! In common as we are talking... Lets not be so harsh!! Just remember how you talk on the fly with your girlfriends....
You all are just not ready to grow up. It’s pretty simple. Kids always think they’re going to miss out on stuff, so they refuse to go to sleep. Baby steps! Best advice.
Relationships are not hard when you are with the right person. I've been with my husband for 17 years and while we have little disagreements once in awhile, 99% of the time it is easy and fun.
I have many alcoholic's in my life - just being 57 this year - kno ppl - kno life - they are not the issue! "My drinking!?!? How DARE YOU!!!!" Always!!! Won't work if he's not ok with how she acts and/or how she treats him while she's doing 'her'! Honest - sorry Linds - your an awesome lady for many reasons - but the alcohol is ugly.... truly... I wish ALL the best! T.V. must be xtra-challenging!!!! Good for you ALL for your candor...
Kyle’s belief that it’s premature to look for a house because they don’t have children yet - is ill founded. It can take 1-2 years to find your house once you decide to start looking. Then it takes weeks/months to purchase once your offer is accepted. What if the sale falls through? You have to start again. And what if you buy a doer upper? That’s 1-2 years work to make the house suitable for children and a family. Amanda might want to spend time making a house a home.. all the stuff that’s easier to do when you don’t have a newborn or toddler running around. They have an opportunity to get ahead of the game - take it
@kelseywillow8110 money is one of the top reasons people get divorced. Unfortunately, it matters. So unless you're rich and can afford to support your significant other completely, then it does matter. I live in California. I can't support two people on my salary alone, especially if you want children. A lot of people can't nowadays. They have money now as reality stars but what happens when it goes away.
Firstly Carl & Lindsey r not comparable. They got an apt that was too costly then Carl was jobless. He gets crackpot ideas like a non alcoholic bar. Guess who would front the bill for that. Neither r prizes.
Lindsay how much Money are you bringing in ? Sounds like not enough if door mat Carl is still paying half the rent on that ridiculous apartment you had to have. If you’re such a boss b, then pay it all yourself. If you’re such a boss you wouldn’t care that and you’d say you don’t need his half and would end any part of having him around. And I hope Carl doesn’t pay her dust, IF they get asked back for season 9.
I'm actually finding Paige bearable this season... that was good friendship to Lindsay right there. There were too many red flags... Lindsay is better off without Carl.
@@johndoe-lm7ji she’s the creative director and literally designs EVERYTHING for that brand. Kyle said himself that all of the merch she designs sells out immediately and makes them a lot of money 😂
Carl is so manipulative my God! Everything is Lindsey’s fault according to him, like what about the part you played in all this??? You’ve known Lindsey for years, you knew her character, she didn’t change so for him to be acting like this now is so baffling to me. He needs to man tf up and stop hiding behind people. I’m so tired of his bs
She never considered postponing the wedding BECAUSE she realized she didn't want to marry Carl either. Lindsey just admit you were part of the problem too. The fake tears at the end of the last show were ridiculous also.
Everyone handles situations differently. Lindsey should not be so critical of people not dealing with things the way she does. We are all unique and struggle to handle situations to the best way we KNOW how. A little more gentleness. People shouldn’t be ripped apart because they are different from you and what you expect. I know you come from a place of hurt as well. I do think that all things happen for a reason and I think it will manifest.
Kyle is going to get sick of doing everything. Amanda seems a little to comfortable not doing anything except watching tv. How nice to watch tv and do nothing.
Are you kidding?? She works normal hours and Kyle works around the clock. Amanda was a full-time Senior Designer at a top international cosmetics company for 5 years and Kyle begged her to quit and lead creative direction for loverboy. She built alllll of the branding, logos, merchandise design, and even came up with the idea for their top selling beverage. He said on the show that her apparel designs are a huge moneymaker for the brand and sell out almost immediately whenever she drops new designs. Kyle works more than her because it is HIS company. The CEO can’t get mad that he’s working more than his employee lol. If he wants her to work as much as him then he should make her a co-CEO. He acts like Amanda literally can’t function without him but she had a competitive career in NYC before she met him.
Lindsay is not blameless but how long are people going to be soft on this man child of divorce who is pushing 40s for his lack of accountability! We have all seen how he has treated women in the past, used his brother for sympathy and is constantly using a cover of his addiction as a cop out. C'mon Carl.
Just because Paige is scared of marriage doesn’t mean she needs to talk others out of it. I wouldn’t advise any friend to runaway as a way of being a good friend lol
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This whole season is just going to be one big gaslighting effort against Lindsay, just like the last season. 😕 Bravo really hates strong, independent women.
Seems like Jesse and West have become really good friends. Think they rescued the show.
Agree💯❤
I don't think they rescued it but they definitely brought the good vibes. Loving the bromance with all the guys.
Lmao Lindsay trying to act like she's *NOT THE PROBLEM* 🤣
She’s the number one problem in the house. 😂
The house is so light and fun without her or Danielle. I say Danielle too because she hung around Lindsay and was manipulated and brainwashed so much that she’s now just like Lindsay.
@@SongOfSongsOneTwelve I just never liked her. Don't know why.
I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
I see why Gabby is also as DELUSIONAL as Lindsey. Lindsey questioned his SOBRIETY. Thats when Carl knew he was marrying the wrong one
Gabby is blowing smoke up Lindsey butt. 😏
I cannot stand gabby. Epitome of a dumb instagram obsessed millennial.
Truth!
As someone who is sober I questioned his sobriety too, he's not fully sober though so that thought will always cross her mind, he still smokes weed doesn't he
@@carol2sweets928
He does smoke weed.
I do understand what you’re saying.
I think he smokes weed for anxiety.
If weed is not his trigger for his drugs & alcohol abuse, then I don’t see a problem with it.
People take pills for anxiety.
I have friends that weed makes them want to drink, & drinking makes them want to do coke.
Once on coke, they will go for days & get lost. 😞
So, I do understand it can be a slippery slope for people.
Paige...Danielle was LITRALLY that friend last year and got excommunicated for it....
Because she went behind her back
Lindsay's favorite thing to do is talk about how bad*ss Lindsay is.
Her perspective on this breakup is utterly bananas. Like she's basically saying, "I was willing to do the work & he wasn't" 🙄 Umm what?!?
He was trying to approach the relationship with an emotional maturity that she can't even acknowledge she lacks, let alone actually *ever* possess.
I can't imagine how frustrating it was for Carl to try & maturely talk through the issues at hand, with Lindsay over here in denial-l Pand like "I'm amazing, so if there's a problem, you must b on drugs".
She was in denial just wanting the fairy tale ending, ignoring the reality at hand. It seems he used every pair of kids gloves he could access to try & make the situation something it wasn't, & based on Lindsay's response to it all, never would b.
Zero acknowledge of their problems, let alone any accountability for them.
She needs therapy. She’s delusional
@@RealityTvLover I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Gabby clearly signed up for the Danielle package in Lindsey’s life. This is insane!
Yes, relationships take work but in 4 episodes Lindsay has taken no time to look at herself and work on herself shes never apologized or taken ownership she's only ever blamed Carl and demanded he fixes things which in all the years theyve been on the show we've seen the growth from him
Carl and Lindsay never should have been together.
I can’t stop staring at Amanda’s over sized blazer…when they do a shot of her upper body she looks like a little kid dressed up in a large man’s blazer.
It’s bizarre, but I love it.
Her clothes suck so effin bad
It’s like the scene from the movie Big where Tom hanks returns to 12 year old size and is still in a grown man’s suit jacket
@@Pollypocket678 exactly!!!
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Lindsay saying she doesn't play the victim is utterly ridiculous 🙄 seriously 🤨
Thank for catching that…I literally came to the comment section after that
When was the last time you made ME a sandwich?
The amount of Lindsay hate is crazy. All of these other heffers are sloppy and ridiculous, but Lindsay is the problem? Ok. I mean Amanda literally chased Kyle forever and he was an absolute mess. These comments just show who has actually watched the show from the beginning and those who are brand new 😑.
She’s freaking delusional. Lindsay is insane
@@reneegolovacha1880 I have watched from season 1, when the twins and Steven were on. I have watched through Lindsay's relationship with Everett, where she acted like a complete lunatic. I watched her relationship with Stravy, where she acted like a complete lunatic. And now Carl, where she also, you guessed it, acted like a complete lunatic. She's INSANE. Self-involved. She's a walking poster child for Borderline Personality Disorder.
Gabi crazy. if you’re working HARD on your sobriety, and your LIFE partner, the person you wanna have kids with, live with, marry, etc etc, questions that?!? In a drunken rage and stupor?! Liiiike that’s relationship ending. Straight up.
💯. Period.
But he's not sober he still smokes weed that is NOT sober
What's funny is in the episode she actually said Lindsay was wrong, but to her face, but she said it in the confessional.
@@frmtheconcrete2529 I think Gabby is afraid of lindsey
@@carol2sweets928 EVERYONE IS AFRAID OF LINDSEY
lol Lindsay has done ZERO self introspection. I would’ve thought watching the season back would be eye opening.
Also, Gaby, such an enabler! Jesus tell your friend when she is wrong.
Amanda speaks like she knows what's best for Kyle but when I hear Kyle speak, there are so many layers to get through that she seems to ignore. And that he feels everything is on him and over functions is a giant flag that he needs therapy to figure that out. And she does seem to be a bit entitled to being provided for...Paige needs to get them to go to therapy lol.
Gabby is a terrible friend; do Lindsey a solid and deliver her some hard truths
I must be blind because all I see is Carl working on communicating with Lindsay and Lindsay getting black out drunk and/or walking away from any conflict.
Literally same
yeahhh he seems to be trying to communicate and respect her needs, he apologises for things he basically didn’t do and she’s just like “yeah thank you” instead of recognising that she hurt his feelings and said something that’s absolutely out of order. The way she said he wanted her to be someone else is comical to me, at least from what we are seeing…
That's what I see too.
I see the same thing!
I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Lindsay can't see herself and how her lack of healthy conflict resolution and manipulation causes the demise of all her partnerships. But most everyone else can see it.
This!!!! she’s never going to have a successful relationship if she doesn’t see her faults
I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Gabby is an enabler
Lindsey makes me feel like she would be upset at the wall😂
Like why is this wall here?!
Wanting to control things, manipulate and avoid reality. It seems to be her thing..Why rush when you can simply ride the 🌊 until you are TRULY ready…. Exhausting!!
OMG, I am crying at your comment!! 😂😂😂😂
Jesse and West are so refreshing to watch,
Lindsey has no selfawareness. She has always been abrasive, agressive and abusive...she clearly does not live in reality.
I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Carl outgrew her and she couldn’t accept that so instead assumed he was losing his mind high
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 new way to look at it!
Wanting to live in the city & wanting to live in the suburbs are completely different vibes. That’s the kind of stuff you talk about seriously before getting married.
Why even have kids if you love two different lives? That doesn’t make sense. Let’s bring kids into an unstable relationship.
Kyle isn’t ready to be a husband and father
I think Kyle can fall in love to anywhere so if he becomes a dad he will make the right choice as to where his child is raised
Normalizing chaos and dysfunction, this what’s happening because the timeline and bigger picture is most important than actually dealing with problems
Kyle - my hubs damn near had a heart attack when I first mentioned buying a house. He literally had a panic attack. That said we bought a house 37yrs ago - still in the same house actually - he was SO proud to own his own home. You are afraid of the unknown. Jump - you will survive.
Every eternally single person falls back on the argument that relationships take work. Maybe Lindsay is TOO MUCH WORK.
Lyndsey doesn't understand that there is a difference between normal healthy conflict in relationships and a toxic relationship. She's been wired to think a dysfunctional relationship is normal.
HER OWN MOTHER DIS-OWNED HER. SHE CARRIES THAT AROUND LIKE A CRUTCH. SHE NEEDS HELP B4 DATING
West is hilarious, also him & Jesse are great additions to the gang
Quote of the season: “I’ve done more for less” 😂 That’s twice now.
Take a shot everytime Lindsay says the word relationship
Blackout
Gabby the big roll on the pants "NO BUENO" Amanda the big azz blazer "horrible"
I kinda like it
The problem with Kyle and Amanda is that Kyle cheated on her. Now Amanda feels like Kyle owes her and should get whatever she wants without question including being a stay at home mom which is just not feasible in this day and age for most people. She also has the backing from her parents against Kyle all the time. It’s time for Amanda to grow up IMO. It seems like none of them are happy! Amanda needs to divorce Kyle and marry an older, taller (but uglier) and richer man who never cheated on you. There’s still plenty of time for her to do this! Kyle needs to be single.
Lindsay sees what she wants to see! Everyone else really going on.
She really needs to look towards her self and stop blaming everybody else!
She really needs to have a come to Jesus talk with herself and do some heavy duty soul-searching!
Gabby saying she didn't see anything relationship ending is wild!! Especially, when we all watched the first 4 episodes where Lindsay questioned Carl's sobriety multiple times!!!
Lindsay: ‘I don’t play victim’… she needs to see the last reunion
Lindsay brings fights not solutions
Lindsey needs to watch this sober and see how unbelievable she really acts.
If kymanda move out to jersey now… they will be MISERABLE. He will spend way more time outside of the home, while Amanda sits in a big beautiful house by herself calling him 47x and destroying his things every other weekend. 😂
Lindsay is a dangerous woman, her tears could cause some damage. Carl should have never got back with her, that was not smart. Love Ciara, Paige, and Amanda. Kyle is a cool friend to offer Carl a job.
Paige is a friend role model…
Thank God they didn’t get married!! And no wonder Gabby hasn’t found anyone. She is crazy to go along with Lindsay’s ideologies. And Lindsay doesn’t want kids. She also wants to party. It’s so obvious and that’s ok too.
1. Kyle explaining Amanda watching tv and not caring to socialise- 😂 she’s a fucking vibe!
2. Lindsay shutting down the sober sports bar idea 😂 Fucking great 😂 I lover her 😂
On your own!
This gives a lot of insight. I feel bad Lindsay thought they had to do it so soon for that reason. I get where they're both coming from kinda. For Kyle and Amanda I think there's a really big thing they need to talk about with what Kyle says here. Mainly where he says he feels like everything falls on him. I think that's more common than people realize and it CAN be fixed. It comes down to just setting realistic expectations of each other otherwise resentment will overtake it. Kyle can have a social life and a family life but it will look different snd Amanda needs to get clear about what he should expect from her and feel confident on whatever "contribution" she's making and if there's an imbalance with that now it will definitely balance more once Amanda is home with kids if that's what she wants to do or if she has other passions she wants to do while getting child care. Kyle needs to accept whatever way she envisions it and they just need clear expectations of each other. I think they can do it though and will love their family life.
Im looking at Linsey differently this season. Oooof. Not a good look.
Same and i just started watching today
She's never come across well, but I like her regardless. I wish I was a little bit more like her. She lives on her own terms.
@@a.sydney5036 No you dont wish that, lol. Youre probably better than her, trust me, shes a mess.
I recently rewatched the whole series and it’s shocking how manipulative and vicious Lindsey has ALWAYS been. It’s disturbing to see her lack of growth and treatment of others over years. It’s very obvious when you see it chronologically that lindsey was never a good look. she’s not just a reactive bully she has severe issues, including a binge drinking problem
@@a.sydney5036rewatch it. You’re drinking the hub house koolaid
Lindsay is delusional because she has always been the victim and gabby is her lil puppet who agrees with everything that she says.
Trapped? That doesn't sound good, Kyle. Idk why Kyle and Amanda can't go to therapy together.
If Kyle keeps saying that he is responsible for everything or nothing will get done, what does Amanda actually do? Why doesn't he give up some control and have her be involved in things in the marriage?
She's lazy and relies on him to sort things out..business, car, apartment stuff...heck even has to drive her to the Hamptons every week...when does she ever drive him up there?
Amanda does sound lazy 😂
Yeah she is
Gabby's not delusional- its being in THAT moment... Remember how we talk... Most women want or at least talk as - being relatable! In common as we are talking...
Lets not be so harsh!! Just remember how you talk on the fly with your girlfriends....
You all are just not ready to grow up. It’s pretty simple. Kids always think they’re going to miss out on stuff, so they refuse to go to sleep.
Baby steps! Best advice.
Don’t get me started on The Lindsey 🧐😔😣😖🤬🤯
Relationships are not hard when you are with the right person. I've been with my husband for 17 years and while we have little disagreements once in awhile, 99% of the time it is easy and fun.
Paige 100% correct. I would have said “no” and postponed right away.
I have many alcoholic's in my life - just being 57 this year - kno ppl - kno life - they are not the issue! "My drinking!?!? How DARE YOU!!!!" Always!!! Won't work if he's not ok with how she acts and/or how she treats him while she's doing 'her'! Honest - sorry Linds - your an awesome lady for many reasons - but the alcohol is ugly.... truly... I wish ALL the best! T.V. must be xtra-challenging!!!! Good for you ALL for your candor...
Another thing, don’t take relationship from DANIELLE! Girl, bye
Kyle’s belief that it’s premature to look for a house because they don’t have children yet - is ill founded. It can take 1-2 years to find your house once you decide to start looking. Then it takes weeks/months to purchase once your offer is accepted. What if the sale falls through? You have to start again. And what if you buy a doer upper? That’s 1-2 years work to make the house suitable for children and a family. Amanda might want to spend time making a house a home.. all the stuff that’s easier to do when you don’t have a newborn or toddler running around. They have an opportunity to get ahead of the game - take it
Kyle acting like Jersey is Siberia
Kinda..😂😂
Does Carl have a career yet? That alone would have made me postpone the wedding.
Why because money is more important than love? His sobriety should be a priority.
@@kelseywillow8110 They both have the same job!
Agreed. Men can be ambitious and remain sober. He seems lost.
@kelseywillow8110 money is one of the top reasons people get divorced. Unfortunately, it matters. So unless you're rich and can afford to support your significant other completely, then it does matter. I live in California. I can't support two people on my salary alone, especially if you want children. A lot of people can't nowadays. They have money now as reality stars but what happens when it goes away.
@@kelseywillow8110he's not fully sober though he smokes weed everyday that's not sobriety
I love gabby’s hair and outfit
The idea of Lindsay and Johnny Bananas is explosive.
so gabby just gonna sit up there and lie huh?
She’s trying to earn her keep. The only way she’ll stay on the show is if she is Lindsey’s friend.
@@vbelleepoque i get that completely i’m just sad because i liked gabby more without lindsay😭
Gabby girl u were there front and centre and didnt see her calling him cocaine carl as a relationship ender wth kind of world do they live in
Firstly Carl & Lindsey r not comparable. They got an apt that was too costly then Carl was jobless. He gets crackpot ideas like a non alcoholic bar. Guess who would front the bill for that. Neither r prizes.
Linsey saying she questioned Carls career is hilarious because the cameras show Lindsey saying HARD NO! CONTROLLING!!! Does she not get it?
It looks like Gabby is the new old Danielle
Lindsay how much Money are you bringing in ? Sounds like not enough if door mat Carl is still paying half the rent on that ridiculous apartment you had to have. If you’re such a boss b, then pay it all yourself. If you’re such a boss you wouldn’t care that and you’d say you don’t need his half and would end any part of having him around. And I hope Carl doesn’t pay her dust, IF they get asked back for season 9.
this guy asking ques behind the camera isn't very good, can i have his job?
❤❤❤ Oh Boy , First world Problems 😂😂
Is no one going to mention Gabby’s pants? Lol
What has Amanda come as?
I'm actually finding Paige bearable this season... that was good friendship to Lindsay right there. There were too many red flags... Lindsay is better off without Carl.
Kyle and Amanda were a train wreck up to saying I do and look at them now.
She doesn't like him!
Exactly. Look at then now - miserable and NOT AT ALL on the same page
I think she just likes her life. She complains a lot for doing nothing!
@@johndoe-lm7ji she’s the creative director and literally designs EVERYTHING for that brand. Kyle said himself that all of the merch she designs sells out immediately and makes them a lot of money 😂
@@prima-madalina please take note that it was the same logo over a different colour.
Carl is so manipulative my God! Everything is Lindsey’s fault according to him, like what about the part you played in all this??? You’ve known Lindsey for years, you knew her character, she didn’t change so for him to be acting like this now is so baffling to me. He needs to man tf up and stop hiding behind people. I’m so tired of his bs
Kyle is the guy who screws the neighbor
She never considered postponing the wedding BECAUSE she realized she didn't want to marry Carl either. Lindsey just admit you were part of the problem too. The fake tears at the end of the last show were ridiculous also.
One date men usually mean one thing 🤔🧐
I'm happy that Lindsay didn't get married. It would have been a disaster.
Lindsay should do mtv the challenge and leave summer house and call it a day
Amanda just go with it you love each other
What happened to West?!? He looks completely different..and his outfit 😮
He doesn’t look that different. But he obviously gained weight and grew out his hair a little bit.
Carl talks like he’s trying to prove he’s more sane and logical than Lindsay. To who? Just do better. He’s so lost and can’t admit it
You deserve better Lindsay ❤ Carl is not worth any woman's time, not since season 1.
Kyle & Lindsay are RIDICULOUS
Everyone handles situations differently. Lindsey should not be so critical of people not dealing with things the way she does. We are all unique and struggle to handle situations to the best way we KNOW how. A little more gentleness. People shouldn’t be ripped apart because they are different from you and what you expect. I know you come from a place of hurt as well. I do think that all things happen for a reason and I think it will manifest.
Kyle is going to get sick of doing everything. Amanda seems a little to comfortable not doing anything except watching tv. How nice to watch tv and do nothing.
Are you kidding?? She works normal hours and Kyle works around the clock. Amanda was a full-time Senior Designer at a top international cosmetics company for 5 years and Kyle begged her to quit and lead creative direction for loverboy. She built alllll of the branding, logos, merchandise design, and even came up with the idea for their top selling beverage. He said on the show that her apparel designs are a huge moneymaker for the brand and sell out almost immediately whenever she drops new designs. Kyle works more than her because it is HIS company. The CEO can’t get mad that he’s working more than his employee lol. If he wants her to work as much as him then he should make her a co-CEO. He acts like Amanda literally can’t function without him but she had a competitive career in NYC before she met him.
Oh god I find gabby so irritating
NO STORY LINE, NO MAN, LINDSEY PUPPET & PARROT.
I wish everyone talked this nasty about Kyle getting black out drunk and gaslighting Amanda, her friends and the audience!!!!
Amanda’s projecting, she needs to go to therapy on her own too
Gabby … where is your OWN brain ?
Jesse you’re being gross.
Carl you are one lucky man not to have married her
Lindsay is not blameless but how long are people going to be soft on this man child of divorce who is pushing 40s for his lack of accountability! We have all seen how he has treated women in the past, used his brother for sympathy and is constantly using a cover of his addiction as a cop out. C'mon Carl.
Just because Paige is scared of marriage doesn’t mean she needs to talk others out of it. I wouldn’t advise any friend to runaway as a way of being a good friend lol
West really annoyed me this episode
Jesse’s one of the girls
Carl always ran away from relationships and conflicts 😅
Sounds like Jesse wants a boyfriend
Can someone mute her mic.
Lindsay is a bad person