The freaking thing is, if cryonics works and she is brought back to life, she'll be reading these comments 200 years from now, written by people that are long gone.
Denis James we don’t have the technology to freeze tissue without damaging it beyond repair. There exits a few animals who produces a natural “antifreeze” but we are far from being able to do anything similar with humans. This is a scam and have always been. We have researched it since the first science fiction describe it. And nobody has ever shown any evidence of being even close. When you freeze tissue with current technology you can’t avoid crystallization. Which literally shatters the tissues. That doesn’t happen in animals who produces a “natural” antifreeze.
I was bawling as soon as she said she didn't know what state she was in. The amount of love between them is something so moving and indescribable. I hope with everything I have that it works.
To me this piece is what Journalism should be. . When watching other news stories I have always felt detached and looked at the topic in a passing glance. Where here you presented this story in such a grounded and authentic way that not only did I understand what was going on but it became a very real subject in my world. Honestly I was speechless for a very long time after this video concluded. I am amazed I was able to write my previous comment. So keep on bringing more stuff like this please.
They didn’t do their job with this video, they forgot to mention that it’s not possible to freeze brain tissue without damaging it, we are not even close to achieve that. Her brain got destroyed beyond repair, and she died with false hope of being revived. If they isn’t any God, then at least she will never know. She ended up being used for someone else financial gain.
I can't imagine what it's like to watch the girl you love slip out of her body slowly.. Not being able to do something as simple as spelling world backwards 😢
What stands out most to me in this well laid out piece is the Flicker. This beautiful, intelligent forward thinker...here for a moment and in a flicker gone, with the hope that even a small part of who she was might one day be given a second chance. Beyond compelling.
This young lady is 1000% times stronger than i will ever be. I cant imagine being diagnosed with a terminally ill disease at such a young age and being completely at peace with it. 🙏🙏🙏
The ending was unexpected and caught me off guard. But it was also touching and made me feel what he was feeling. Wow. May her beautiful soul rest in peace.
This story is captivating and extremely emotional. But what really blew me away was the way this was filmed and produced. I felt connected to it in a way I never have before with any piece of media.
The fact that something "might" be possible doesn't make it probable. 50 grand to be turned into a popsicle, they played on her fear of death and scammed her.
I would say the greatest tragedy of our society is that we have no science of mind or happiness. When young people die is when this tragedy is laid most bare. Why are we so good at so many things but don't know how to be happy or at peace with life and death? Isn't happiness the most basic human yearning?
A very sad story. I commend that young man for his resilience. I don' think I would have that kind of resolve put in his position 😓. Not to say that I'm an emotional guy, I seldomly cry, but when I have I lose all semblance of composer 😒.
I'll take that 1 to 2% chance over nothing! You know, I have faith in science. Hopefully, the world is a better place by the time you come back, Kim! Let me know what you think about it! Who knows, I might reply!
But their isn’t 1-2% change, there is 0%. We don’t have the technology to freeze brain tissue without destroying it completely. Unfortunately she got scammed, at least she didn’t spend her own money, and will never know she got used for financial gain.
No doubt, facing such an awful terminal illness at that age is a scary and tragic experience. But far scarier to me would be the prospect of waking up in an utterly foreign world and finding out that everyone I loved and everything i knew ceased to exist many generations ago.
I think that unless you're in the position of dying young, you can't know how you would feel to be brought back. It may be worth it to her to come back, even if all of her loved ones are dead, because her life was so short that she just wants the opportunity to live a long life and experience the things that you'll get to experience or have already experienced. She'll never have kids, grandkids, experience a peaceful retirement, or many other things that people experience during their several decades of life.
@@anyaw340 good point, I hadn't thought about it in those terms. The tragedy of dying young isn't about seeing less of the world and missing out on getting old in a general way. Many very specific, very significant opportunities that come with growing old are lost. Absolutely, someone who hasn't had that experience has no business judging, and I wasn't (and am not) criticizing her decision at all. But imagining myself in that scenario, the prospect of waking up far in the future felt to me at least as tragic as prospect of dying young, and way scarier. I also thought of her partner's (boyfriend? husband? I don't recall) perspective and wondered how he moved on from that. They seemed so close, as close as a couple can be. It's not likely, but she could possibly come back in his lifetime, potentially even when he is still relatively young. Objectively, he should proceed as though she won't, lest he miss out on his own significant opportunities in life. But it would be so difficult to move on, much more than if it was certain her absence was permanent. The whole situation is totally mind boggling.
I always thought the people who did this were idiots but seeing this young woman's story changed my perspective. Would I want to be cryopreserved? No. However, if being cryopreserved is going to give a dying person some sort of comfort in their final days, then let them do it. I just worry about the cryonics company exploiting these people and their fear of death.
Such a beautiful and strong person. This is so sad. Even if she would come back. The damaged portion of the brain which caused her death, can not be restored.
We are not even close to be able to freeze brain tissue, or any other human tissue. She has no possibility of being revived, when they froze her brain, they completely destroyed it.
Even if they can do this, and do it successfully, I’m forced to ask myself, why would I want to do that? 85 years they said until they would be able to finish the job. Everybody I love would be gone by then, why would I want to exist in a world where every single person that I’ve ever loved is dead? Sometimes it’s not a question of if, it’s a question of why.
I was wondering about why she wanted this as well. If her boyfriend is also going to be cryopreserved, I can understand it. However, it may just be that because her life was short, she wants the opportunity to live longer.
Hats off to the lady..such a true brave hearted cool and stable lady. She knew she had maximum 06 month of her life but didnt broked her heart and keep maintaing her mental condition stable and lived her balance life happily with his boy friend and thanks to the guyz because he also knew that she will die soon and he have to live his life alone with out her but he stayed clam and standing with her in every moment of her untill she died..god have to give this type of strength and strong heart to more people who can stay with thier loved ones until they die...
Even if they are able to capture/simulate every neural connection in the brain is it really you. I don't think that it is. What good is a computer simulation of someone who died 100 years ago. Very sad story and I hope it works out for her as best as possible but it's not the route I would choose.
Even if it wasn't "me", it would still be some version of me continuing to live and interacting with my loved ones. I would choose that over just being completely gone.
Unfortunately they froze her too late. She didn't even know what state she was in near the end, that's how severe the brain damage had gotten. Even if they do bring her back, those memories and aspects of her personality will be gone
Shaun Dreclin this is true indeed but you should think deeper. Wouldn't be possibile to cure cancer and reinvigorate damaged brain cells, in a world where you can successfully unfreeze deads? The whole concept started for terminally ill patients, who knew cure was close but not here yet. We actually might find the cure before we discover the method to bring her back to life.
That's what I was thinking as well. Her wish to be frozen came true but I dont know that we'll ever have the technology available to reverse brain damage that has already occurred. Maybe in the future there'll be a way to prevent cancer from causing as much havoc to the brain and take preventative steps. It's an interesting look at her journey to find a way to have a chance at life again and I'm glad her wish came true, she could die somewhat happy. But I feel it was all in vain.
@@DeepUndaInAmsterdam things don't look good, in addition to the damage caused by the tumor, there was also damage caused by lack of oxygen and decay in the brain because it took over an hour after death for them to start the prep for cryopreservation. It was supposed to take about 10-15 minutes, but the hospice took an hour to send a nurse to legally pronounce her dead because she happened to die during a shift change. Same incompetent hospice had discharged her a day before because they thought she would survive longer so she was at a condo and not the actual care facility, so the nurse also had to drive to her. In addition, the cryo team showed up with dead batteries in their equipment so they couldn't get the antifreeze into her quickly enough and scans showed that most of her brain was at high risk for ice damage during the freezing process. Literally everything that could go wrong went wrong and now her brain is mostly either destroyed or turned to ice.
Humanity at its finest - Against all odds, we just do not go quietly. I respect her hope and tenacity, and if she sees this comment in a couple centuries somehow, I hope she is doing well lol
The brain is where ego lives. The brain is what tells us we aren’t good enough. Our true self is what tells us the opposite. You can call it soul, spirit, intuition etc. that is what transitions to the next being. I can’t see that coming back of the brain is regenerated and implanted to a new body. If it does, I can’t imagine what that person might be at.
I cannot imagine participating in the scam of dying people. I get that people donated/fundraised the money but were her medical bills paid off? What about her education bills/school loans? I can think of a lot of better ways to invest $85k. I sure hope that place has an extensive power backup. =/
For what? There's no point wasting good money paying off the debts of a dying person unless there are loved ones who will be held responsible when they die. In the case of someone like her, who probably had little-to-no estate, almost all of those debts will just go unpaid when she dies. It would only be useful to pay those off if someone would be held responsible when she dies (for example, she had a spouse, or someone co-signed on a loan).
The decision is easy if you have the resources. Choose between: (1) do cryonics and have a high chance that it will not work so you will "permanently die" (2) don't do it and have a 100% change that you will "permanently die"
Actually most neuro-preservations are carried out on the entire head, the skull acts as a protective casing in the cryoprocess the same way it does in life.
The rest of the body (unless your a whole body candidate like me) is either buried or cremated according to the usual family funeral rites or practices.
Phillip Gauthier ah... It would be an interesting experience if the person's head was cryogenically frozen, then the person comes back to life cured and in a new body, and they end up seeing where their old body was buried or holding an urn that had the ashes of it.
Freezing her brain doesn’t make sense. Her brain cancer was so severe that if she’s ever reanimated she’ll be in the same exact position…it’ll be pointless
Agreed. It just doesn't make sense. And even if it did, the evaluation after the fact stated that the procedure was a failure and her brain was damaged.
It's a real shame that these places exist. It gives some people that are in their most vulnerable state of mind. To sell their whole estates or do the I need this to total strangers and than you hand these people money. For what? Lets go see how some of these places are running now! What happens when the person's family can no longer pay? Once you are gone people that is it! There is no 20 years or 300 years down the road going to be a brain transplant. This is not a movie like Frankenstein, it is the real deal. You are no longer in that body!
Part of the money paid up front is to keep the body preserved. There's no "oops, we forgot to pay grandma's cryonics bill and they say if we miss one more payment they're going to throw her in the ground." That's how some cryonics organizations worked in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Those organizations are all gone. The current organizations, for example, you pay $80,000 or what have you $20,000 gets set aside just to keep you frozen. So there's no family issues of not being able to pay the bills. The upkeep is also extremely cheap. It's just topping off liquid nitrogen. No electricity needed.
😭😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏✍father god please help us, we are down here suffering, sick, helpless....the good are dying to young... father god I ask of u in the name of ur everlasting love as we love you so much to please help us live lives that are full and plentiful....please end all sickness and suffering of all living things..in ur sons name I pray this ...amen🙏🙏🙏🙏💪💪💪💪💪
Smh because scam ever you can't come back so basically 50 years from not the people whom doing this will be dead and the business will be shut down they just spend their !money and trick them
Cryonics is an interesting concept that has the potential to work. But even if it does, there is the question of is it ethical? Is it ethical to keep a person frozen in order to try to bring them back at a later date if a cure for a disease is eventually found? The whole process is based on hope. Nobody knows if there will ever be a cure for specific diseases. Nobody knows if a frozen brain will be able to be implanted at a later date after being thawed and still be able to retain memories as well as being able to still function and be able to control a body. How long from now will somebody who goes through this process have to wait? 30 years? 50 years? 100 years? Or even 1,000 years? By that time the person who is frozen may not have any family or friends left from the time that they were frozen. So would it be worth it? The person who was frozen would be able to live their life, but they may have to relearn everything they knew about the world. To me, that doesn't seem like a happy ending.
Broderick Flynn Also, some say that cryonics patients once able to be reanimated can either come back in their old body, a new one, or turned into a program; the question then is are they still considered human? Will society be accepting of them coming back, especially when many religions today see the idea of defying death as a sin? Would the cryogenic patient be able even choose or change their mind on whether they want to be their same body, a different one, or in a program when they are unable to give consent while they are not animated yet? And what if they wake up to find themselves in a body they did not agree on or trapped in a program because someone who would choose for them didn't know exactly what they want or the decision had to be made by someone else?
How can you comment on her and her life she’s not had what most of us have experienced and she’s feels she’s loosing out and it’s given her a false hope those people around her now aren’t going to be there if they ever have the ability to wake them up all that money on false hope she could see what cancer trials are out there she could pay for something that might actually work I wish her all the best for whatever path she chooses 💓😘🔮🌸💓
You cannot be prepared for the world-changing shock, everyday, after waking up out of the stasis. the shock would hit your psyche each and every day and would be extremely difficult emotionally. There is no psychological preparation for waking up in the future. None. Only with love and support can someone come to terms with the changes awaiting them.
Between a 0% chance of revival and a 1% chance of revival, it seems like the 2nd option would be the most rational. Cryonics might be a long shot, but it is the only shot available right now for those who want to live forever. Basically, it's either cryonics, or a 0% chance at life. waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html Good case for cryonics. Long read but quite worth it. "Cryonics is the process of pausing people in critical condition who can’t accept the concept of death, in the hopes that people from the future will be able to save them."
@@stealtho And that's your option. I doubt you'd think that though. We all want to live tomorrow. And tomorrow we want to live the day after that. Unless you're in horrible pain or something like that, but obviously cryonics isn't going to bring you back if that's the case.
i don't begrudge anyone for doing this, but not for me..once i'm gone i'm gone, i don't want to come back to this life, my family and friends most likely gone? no just let me sleep
Death is a scary concept, and to have your life taken from you at such a prominent time in your life with those you love watching you die is beyond terrifying. Her story is disheartening and yet optimistic, and I have hope that one day she'll come back to see this world again.
It is the spirit in the body that keeps you alive. Once the spirit leaves the body you can not will not bring the body back to life. Jesus is Lord over all spirit. He is the resurrection and the life. When he returns to raise the living and dead unto everlasting life or damnation. What a day. Jesus is Lord.
What moment do you think the spirit leaves the body? Before the invention of CPR, everyone thought death occurs the very instant your heart stopped beating. Everyone was wrong.
Everyone can have there own believes. I respect all my Cristian friends and family and will burry them as they want. However please respect people who believe in cryonics (Btw the Bible tels us to do everything to stay alive. This includes everything imo)
I have a child so no way going leave my child /I hope and pray they figure it out in the future bring her back if not maybe one day we meet in heaven cause I diffently believe in God son of God jesus christ so I believe anything possible
I was appalled by the remarks of "Coconut Man" below. Who ever said (did the Bible ever say) that what this young woman decided to do was improper? No. An all-powerful, benevolent God is cool with, and understands, whatever we need to do. I don't accept that He would punish a 23 y.o. young woman who wanted to take a specific route.
Yep. She had the most aggressive type of brain cancer so unless they know how to defeat it as well as reverse the irreparable damage the freezing process caused, she's unfortunately not coming back
The best partners are the ones who will take care of their dying partner and be their friend and be strong through their whole journey. Hes the best.
If someone loves you alot they will definitely take care of you.
The freaking thing is, if cryonics works and she is brought back to life, she'll be reading these comments 200 years from now, written by people that are long gone.
Wade H Garrett will UA-cam even exist then?😂
She will never be revived, we can’t freeze brain tissue without damaging it beyond repair. We are not even close to achieve that.
Martin Rotvig who knows you don’t know too
Denis James we don’t have the technology to freeze tissue without damaging it beyond repair. There exits a few animals who produces a natural “antifreeze” but we are far from being able to do anything similar with humans.
This is a scam and have always been. We have researched it since the first science fiction describe it. And nobody has ever shown any evidence of being even close.
When you freeze tissue with current technology you can’t avoid crystallization. Which literally shatters the tissues. That doesn’t happen in animals who produces a “natural” antifreeze.
Martin Rotvig ok bro thanks
I wish I could give that guy a big hug. Can't imagine how difficult it would be for either of them.
I was bawling as soon as she said she didn't know what state she was in. The amount of love between them is something so moving and indescribable. I hope with everything I have that it works.
I was just thinking exactly the same thing!!!!
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To me this piece is what Journalism should be. . When watching other news stories I have always felt detached and looked at the topic in a passing glance. Where here you presented this story in such a grounded and authentic way that not only did I understand what was going on but it became a very real subject in my world. Honestly I was speechless for a very long time after this video concluded. I am amazed I was able to write my previous comment. So keep on bringing more stuff like this please.
They didn’t do their job with this video, they forgot to mention that it’s not possible to freeze brain tissue without damaging it, we are not even close to achieve that. Her brain got destroyed beyond repair, and she died with false hope of being revived. If they isn’t any God, then at least she will never know.
She ended up being used for someone else financial gain.
using this to help me with my homework i really appreciate it
I can't imagine what it's like to watch the girl you love slip out of her body slowly.. Not being able to do something as simple as spelling world backwards 😢
I think that the fact that he is standing by her when she needs support the most is truly brave.
I’m crying not gonna lie bro that hit hard
@@alfredsandoval3794 same... I've had to watch it happen twice due to addiction
I feel sorry for her but even more for this young man, it's hard to move with your life not knowing if she's ever coming back.
What stands out most to me in this well laid out piece is the Flicker. This beautiful, intelligent forward thinker...here for a moment and in a flicker gone, with the hope that even a small part of who she was might one day be given a second chance. Beyond compelling.
Wasn't crying til I read this comment
well now im completely and utterly depressed
Well if you are cremated or left to rot, there’s 0% chance you’ll ever come back. I’ll take any non-zero chance over a 0 anytime.
WELL. THIS COMPLETELY DESTROYED ME.
+late privktorian era It's pretty tough to watch, I agree, but it also makes you appreciate what you have in your own life a little bit more.
Same
This made me cry she is so brave.
Amazing, sad, and very inspiring display of human hope.
Mac
Mac,,,
Stay optimistic my friend! The future is in our hands
This young lady is 1000% times stronger than i will ever be. I cant imagine being diagnosed with a terminally ill disease at such a young age and being completely at peace with it. 🙏🙏🙏
The ending was unexpected and caught me off guard. But it was also touching and made me feel what he was feeling. Wow. May her beautiful soul rest in peace.
I’m sobbing. Those photographs are the most beautiful and heartbreaking thing I’ve ever seen. I hope her brain is successfully cryopreserved.
This story is captivating and extremely emotional. But what really blew me away was the way this was filmed and produced. I felt connected to it in a way I never have before with any piece of media.
ok i am not a emotional guy but this really hit the soft spot in me...
It's hard to think about possibly losing someone- but the beauty with cryonics is it may not be forever!
I hope that 1 or 2 % chance works. Anything is possible.
Absolutely! I love the attitude. Have you heard of ALCOR before? Id love to start a dialogue with you about the possibility of cryonics
Same here.
Galactic Public Archives I was
The fact that something "might" be possible doesn't make it probable. 50 grand to be turned into a popsicle, they played on her fear of death and scammed her.
@@liberalguy513 how probable does a man on the moon sound in 1883.
I would say the greatest tragedy of our society is that we have no science of mind or happiness. When young people die is when this tragedy is laid most bare. Why are we so good at so many things but don't know how to be happy or at peace with life and death? Isn't happiness the most basic human yearning?
A very sad story. I commend that young man for his resilience. I don' think I would have that kind of resolve put in his position 😓. Not to say that I'm an emotional guy, I seldomly cry, but when I have I lose all semblance of composer 😒.
I'll take that 1 to 2% chance over nothing! You know, I have faith in science. Hopefully, the world is a better place by the time you come back, Kim! Let me know what you think about it! Who knows, I might reply!
I love your positive attitude.
But their isn’t 1-2% change, there is 0%. We don’t have the technology to freeze brain tissue without destroying it completely.
Unfortunately she got scammed, at least she didn’t spend her own money, and will never know she got used for financial gain.
@@martinrotvig we actually do. just don't have the technology to revive them atm
Hi are you still alive
@@azeleyes2936 Hi, I think so?
I cried for the bf, I cant imagine what that would've been like for him to see her go through that
I’m happy that she signed up for Cryonics, it’s better than being dead in a coffin where it’s near impossible to revive the bodies.
@@stealtho not "near impossible", but the body's infrastructure is simply decomposed and unusable.
No doubt, facing such an awful terminal illness at that age is a scary and tragic experience. But far scarier to me would be the prospect of waking up in an utterly foreign world and finding out that everyone I loved and everything i knew ceased to exist many generations ago.
I think that unless you're in the position of dying young, you can't know how you would feel to be brought back. It may be worth it to her to come back, even if all of her loved ones are dead, because her life was so short that she just wants the opportunity to live a long life and experience the things that you'll get to experience or have already experienced. She'll never have kids, grandkids, experience a peaceful retirement, or many other things that people experience during their several decades of life.
@@anyaw340 good point, I hadn't thought about it in those terms. The tragedy of dying young isn't about seeing less of the world and missing out on getting old in a general way. Many very specific, very significant opportunities that come with growing old are lost. Absolutely, someone who hasn't had that experience has no business judging, and I wasn't (and am not) criticizing her decision at all. But imagining myself in that scenario, the prospect of waking up far in the future felt to me at least as tragic as prospect of dying young, and way scarier. I also thought of her partner's (boyfriend? husband? I don't recall) perspective and wondered how he moved on from that. They seemed so close, as close as a couple can be. It's not likely, but she could possibly come back in his lifetime, potentially even when he is still relatively young. Objectively, he should proceed as though she won't, lest he miss out on his own significant opportunities in life. But it would be so difficult to move on, much more than if it was certain her absence was permanent. The whole situation is totally mind boggling.
i had to pause a few times when she forgot where she was.losing a part of urself as death become immenent..i had to wipe sum tears off my eyes
At least she had the courage to try. People said we would never have airplanes back in the day and look at us now. Anything is possible.
I always thought the people who did this were idiots but seeing this young woman's story changed my perspective. Would I want to be cryopreserved? No. However, if being cryopreserved is going to give a dying person some sort of comfort in their final days, then let them do it.
I just worry about the cryonics company exploiting these people and their fear of death.
don't forget if they go bankrupt the money is wasted.
isn't alcor nonprofit?
@@nottheone-o6u yes it is
This guy is a gem bro well I hope here or not but in heaven they may live happily ever after
Poignant, deep and thought provoking!I sincerely hope she sees this sometime in the future!
i can't imagine what the girl and the guy went through, i hope he is ok and will see her in the future again
What a gentleman.wow!!
This literally brought me to tears Lord pass her boyfriend, family and sorority sisters peace that surpasses all understanding Amen 🙏🏾
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Every living being is so precious.
Here's hope for the future.
Such a beautiful and strong person. This is so sad. Even if she would come back. The damaged portion of the brain which caused her death, can not be restored.
Every year the science of cryonics improves. We need to stay alive as long as we can to increase our chances of coming back.
We are not even close to be able to freeze brain tissue, or any other human tissue. She has no possibility of being revived, when they froze her brain, they completely destroyed it.
@@martinrotvig not true
Pingo that's not true.
Pingo yeah that’s why all sperm dies at sperm banks right?
@Baba Yaga sounds like you ‘don’t want’ it to work.
RIP we will see you later
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 This is heartbreaking they should have their whole lives ahead of them this is so sad !!!
Even if they can do this, and do it successfully, I’m forced to ask myself, why would I want to do that? 85 years they said until they would be able to finish the job. Everybody I love would be gone by then, why would I want to exist in a world where every single person that I’ve ever loved is dead? Sometimes it’s not a question of if, it’s a question of why.
I was wondering about why she wanted this as well. If her boyfriend is also going to be cryopreserved, I can understand it. However, it may just be that because her life was short, she wants the opportunity to live longer.
Hats off to the lady..such a true brave hearted cool and stable lady.
She knew she had maximum 06 month of her life but didnt broked her heart and keep maintaing her mental condition stable and lived her balance life happily with his boy friend and thanks to the guyz because he also knew that she will die soon and he have to live his life alone with out her but he stayed clam and standing with her in every moment of her untill she died..god have to give this type of strength and strong heart to more people who can stay with thier loved ones until they die...
Even if they are able to capture/simulate every neural connection in the brain is it really you. I don't think that it is. What good is a computer simulation of someone who died 100 years ago. Very sad story and I hope it works out for her as best as possible but it's not the route I would choose.
Even if it wasn't "me", it would still be some version of me continuing to live and interacting with my loved ones. I would choose that over just being completely gone.
Shaun Dreclin also this brings the question...who is really you? Isn't the guy who commented this one year ago A COMPLETELEY DIFFERENT PERSON?
What a beautiful young lady rest in peace hope ur brain works again jn the future ur a very brave smart lady who deserves the best ❤❤❤
These stories are very sad but very heart warming
Unfortunately they froze her too late. She didn't even know what state she was in near the end, that's how severe the brain damage had gotten. Even if they do bring her back, those memories and aspects of her personality will be gone
Shaun Dreclin this is true indeed but you should think deeper. Wouldn't be possibile to cure cancer and reinvigorate damaged brain cells, in a world where you can successfully unfreeze deads? The whole concept started for terminally ill patients, who knew cure was close but not here yet. We actually might find the cure before we discover the method to bring her back to life.
That's what I was thinking as well. Her wish to be frozen came true but I dont know that we'll ever have the technology available to reverse brain damage that has already occurred. Maybe in the future there'll be a way to prevent cancer from causing as much havoc to the brain and take preventative steps. It's an interesting look at her journey to find a way to have a chance at life again and I'm glad her wish came true, she could die somewhat happy. But I feel it was all in vain.
@@DeepUndaInAmsterdam things don't look good, in addition to the damage caused by the tumor, there was also damage caused by lack of oxygen and decay in the brain because it took over an hour after death for them to start the prep for cryopreservation. It was supposed to take about 10-15 minutes, but the hospice took an hour to send a nurse to legally pronounce her dead because she happened to die during a shift change. Same incompetent hospice had discharged her a day before because they thought she would survive longer so she was at a condo and not the actual care facility, so the nurse also had to drive to her. In addition, the cryo team showed up with dead batteries in their equipment so they couldn't get the antifreeze into her quickly enough and scans showed that most of her brain was at high risk for ice damage during the freezing process. Literally everything that could go wrong went wrong and now her brain is mostly either destroyed or turned to ice.
Humanity at its finest - Against all odds, we just do not go quietly. I respect her hope and tenacity, and if she sees this comment in a couple centuries somehow, I hope she is doing well lol
YES SHE IS PLAYING ZELDA I LOVE HER!
Sad story, hope it will work in the future. A Chinese writer just did Cryonic earlier this month, and the story was spread in China social media
I am not afraid to die.
The brain is where ego lives. The brain is what tells us we aren’t good enough. Our true self is what tells us the opposite. You can call it soul, spirit, intuition etc. that is what transitions to the next being. I can’t see that coming back of the brain is regenerated and implanted to a new body. If it does, I can’t imagine what that person might be at.
i cant help but wonder where her parents were at the last moment of her life
What your going through you just keep going on and on and on bless you
I cannot imagine participating in the scam of dying people. I get that people donated/fundraised the money but were her medical bills paid off? What about her education bills/school loans? I can think of a lot of better ways to invest $85k. I sure hope that place has an extensive power backup. =/
For what? There's no point wasting good money paying off the debts of a dying person unless there are loved ones who will be held responsible when they die. In the case of someone like her, who probably had little-to-no estate, almost all of those debts will just go unpaid when she dies. It would only be useful to pay those off if someone would be held responsible when she dies (for example, she had a spouse, or someone co-signed on a loan).
The decision is easy if you have the resources. Choose between:
(1) do cryonics and have a high chance that it will not work so you will "permanently die"
(2) don't do it and have a 100% change that you will "permanently die"
Gonzalo Salinas she didn't have them, it was foundraised. I would devolve a fraction of my salary to have ~ chances vs 0.
lets be honest, who gives these people the money to pay these other people, it's like the worlds biggest scam
That's what romance is !
since her head is only being preserve, what happened to the rest of the body? what did they do to it after her head was severed off and whatnot?
They froze only her brain, not her head.
Chloe Ajhduec yeah, so what happened to the parts that aren't preserved?
Actually most neuro-preservations are carried out on the entire head, the skull acts as a protective casing in the cryoprocess the same way it does in life.
The rest of the body (unless your a whole body candidate like me) is either buried or cremated according to the usual family funeral rites or practices.
Phillip Gauthier ah... It would be an interesting experience if the person's head was cryogenically frozen, then the person comes back to life cured and in a new body, and they end up seeing where their old body was buried or holding an urn that had the ashes of it.
I found this video just now and wow 😞 life is sometimes so so painful and unfair 😢
Why am I watching this I'm depressed enough as it is
Freezing her brain doesn’t make sense. Her brain cancer was so severe that if she’s ever reanimated she’ll be in the same exact position…it’ll be pointless
I was confused about this as well. What good does it do to revive a brain with an incurable brain tumor?
Agreed. It just doesn't make sense. And even if it did, the evaluation after the fact stated that the procedure was a failure and her brain was damaged.
So sad
This video is turning 10 years old next year, we will bring you back Kim ,AGI is coming !
This is So 😢 May she Rest in peace in heaven not a freezer tank❤️
Rest in peace Kim ❤
Watching in 2019
It's a real shame that these places exist. It gives some people that are in their most vulnerable state of mind. To sell their whole estates or do the I need this to total strangers and than you hand these people money. For what? Lets go see how some of these places are running now! What happens when the person's family can no longer pay? Once you are gone people that is it! There is no 20 years or 300 years down the road going to be a brain transplant. This is not a movie like Frankenstein, it is the real deal. You are no longer in that body!
Part of the money paid up front is to keep the body preserved. There's no "oops, we forgot to pay grandma's cryonics bill and they say if we miss one more payment they're going to throw her in the ground."
That's how some cryonics organizations worked in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Those organizations are all gone. The current organizations, for example, you pay $80,000 or what have you $20,000 gets set aside just to keep you frozen. So there's no family issues of not being able to pay the bills.
The upkeep is also extremely cheap. It's just topping off liquid nitrogen. No electricity needed.
super powerful ending. really hope she is at peace and or finds it in the future
😭😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏✍father god please help us, we are down here suffering, sick, helpless....the good are dying to young... father god I ask of u in the name of ur everlasting love as we love you so much to please help us live lives that are full and plentiful....please end all sickness and suffering of all living things..in ur sons name I pray this ...amen🙏🙏🙏🙏💪💪💪💪💪
Wow, sad story❤
So sad.
Heart touching
Smh because scam ever you can't come back so basically 50 years from not the people whom doing this will be dead and the business will be shut down they just spend their !money and trick them
😂😂😂😂
Cryonics is an interesting concept that has the potential to work. But even if it does, there is the question of is it ethical? Is it ethical to keep a person frozen in order to try to bring them back at a later date if a cure for a disease is eventually found? The whole process is based on hope. Nobody knows if there will ever be a cure for specific diseases. Nobody knows if a frozen brain will be able to be implanted at a later date after being thawed and still be able to retain memories as well as being able to still function and be able to control a body. How long from now will somebody who goes through this process have to wait? 30 years? 50 years? 100 years? Or even 1,000 years? By that time the person who is frozen may not have any family or friends left from the time that they were frozen. So would it be worth it? The person who was frozen would be able to live their life, but they may have to relearn everything they knew about the world. To me, that doesn't seem like a happy ending.
Broderick Flynn Also, some say that cryonics patients once able to be reanimated can either come back in their old body, a new one, or turned into a program; the question then is are they still considered human? Will society be accepting of them coming back, especially when many religions today see the idea of defying death as a sin? Would the cryogenic patient be able even choose or change their mind on whether they want to be their same body, a different one, or in a program when they are unable to give consent while they are not animated yet? And what if they wake up to find themselves in a body they did not agree on or trapped in a program because someone who would choose for them didn't know exactly what they want or the decision had to be made by someone else?
There was nothing to save, the cancer destroyed her brian.
That MAN who is dating the woman with brain cancer... Is a real man
True, unconditional love is a pure, beautiful thing. ❤
Some people are born warriors like both of you
This got me shook
How can you comment on her and her life she’s not had what most of us have experienced and she’s feels she’s loosing out and it’s given her a false hope those people around her now aren’t going to be there if they ever have the ability to wake them up all that money on false hope she could see what cancer trials are out there she could pay for something that might actually work I wish her all the best for whatever path she chooses 💓😘🔮🌸💓
Hey you are back ☺️
Welcome to life again.
Well,it was a 1% chance and you have won.
Moral : Something is forever better than Nothing .
Cryonics is the worst thing... right after dying. 1% is still better bet than 0%
This is he'll on earth
Watching her deteriorate through the documentary is really hard
You cannot be prepared for the world-changing shock, everyday, after waking up out of the stasis. the shock would hit your psyche each and every day and would be extremely difficult emotionally. There is no psychological preparation for waking up in the future. None. Only with love and support can someone come to terms with the changes awaiting them.
I feel sorry for her
After watching this, I’m taking cancer prevention very seriously.
Between a 0% chance of revival and a 1% chance of revival, it seems like the 2nd option would be the most rational. Cryonics might be a long shot, but it is the only shot available right now for those who want to live forever.
Basically, it's either cryonics, or a 0% chance at life.
waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html
Good case for cryonics. Long read but quite worth it.
"Cryonics is the process of pausing people in critical condition who can’t accept the concept of death, in the hopes that people from the future will be able to save them."
If I ever signed up for this in the future I would chose to spend a limited time if I woke up, I don’t want to live forever.
@@stealtho And that's your option. I doubt you'd think that though. We all want to live tomorrow. And tomorrow we want to live the day after that. Unless you're in horrible pain or something like that, but obviously cryonics isn't going to bring you back if that's the case.
here's to better times.
You'd think brain cancer would be the worst condition to have to try this.
I assist in brain surgery everyday, you'd be surprised how much of the brain can be damaged or even taken out, and the person is little changed.
So true, just look at Trump.
@@liberalguy513 or the people that actually voted for Hillary Clinton!
beautiful sony trinitron
i don't begrudge anyone for doing this, but not for me..once i'm gone i'm gone, i don't want to come back to this life, my family and friends most likely gone? no just let me sleep
Death is a scary concept, and to have your life taken from you at such a prominent time in your life with those you love watching you die is beyond terrifying. Her story is disheartening and yet optimistic, and I have hope that one day she'll come back to see this world again.
Sad
Cryogenics is probably one of the most sick and disgusting scams I've ever heard of
We told all before no more cremations for the loved ones.
Kim slide me some dm's when you comeback.
I hope they make this technology.
It is the spirit in the body that keeps you alive. Once the spirit leaves the body you can not will not bring the body back to life. Jesus is Lord over all spirit. He is the resurrection and the life. When he returns to raise the living and dead unto everlasting life or damnation. What a day. Jesus is Lord.
Stop
What moment do you think the spirit leaves the body?
Before the invention of CPR, everyone thought death occurs the very instant your heart stopped beating. Everyone was wrong.
No❤️
Wow 😐
Everyone can have there own believes. I respect all my Cristian friends and family and will burry them as they want. However please respect people who believe in cryonics
(Btw the Bible tels us to do everything to stay alive. This includes everything imo)
I have a child so no way going leave my child /I hope and pray they figure it out in the future bring her back if not maybe one day we meet in heaven cause I diffently believe in God son of God jesus christ so I believe anything possible
This will never work. Once your soul leaves the body it's a done deal.
I agree
It's sad. It's like she's holding to hope that won't take place. This agency is taking folks money away and seems much more of a scam.
There is no soul.
@@looks4062 lmao
I was appalled by the remarks of "Coconut Man" below. Who ever said (did the Bible ever say) that what this young woman decided to do was improper? No. An all-powerful, benevolent God is cool with, and understands, whatever we need to do. I don't accept that He would punish a 23 y.o. young woman who wanted to take a specific route.
What if in 200 years theres no power of electricity......
Donna Safar what if an asteroid wiped us all now? Duh?!
They use liquid nitrogen, so the facility doesn't even need electricity to keep everyone cool.
Won’t she still be sick if she would get back to life?
Yep. She had the most aggressive type of brain cancer so unless they know how to defeat it as well as reverse the irreparable damage the freezing process caused, she's unfortunately not coming back