You're probably the first person to set the context of it being a trilogy, which basically eliminates the criticism of the films being too similar or the accusation of copying your name all over again. Seeing them as a theme with different character plots really makes sense!
Thank you for the comment! Yeah, one of the reasons why I made the video was because I wanted to give a different perspective on these films that didn't involve the misconception that Shinkai basically makes the same film over and over again - which I think is a bit of an unfair assumption to make (and this is coming from someone who wasn't even the biggest Shinkai fan before making the video). I don't think this video will dispel that narrative entirely, but I hope it changes how some people view and talk about them in a way that's more productive than saying "it's like Your Name but not as good".
Suzume 100% doesn’t copy Your Name at all. It’s amazing and stands super well on its own. I think Weathering With you is just slightly guilty of it though, but I overall have different issues with Weathering With You that make it kinda mediocre in my opinion
My jaw dropped on the floor when i watched this video that did a really good job on exploring the themes in a really easy to understand way, only for my eyes to pan down and realise that you deserve wayyyyy more more like and comments, your explanation is so good i was shocked.
I haven't seen Weathering with You, but Your Name and Suzume are genuinely some of my favorite movies. There are very few movies that make me cry because of their pure unfiltered beauty, but these ones got me. I never connected the dots between the two and didn't even realize they were made by the same person/people. I also didn't know about the real world connection to Tohoku. I didn't even know that tragedy happened. Thank you so much for informing me (and I'm sure others) about this tragic event and how, somehow, something beautiful still came out of it.
Nah, romance is a genre which has the potential to become one of the best genres if implemented carefully. Although, it can be the worst if not handled well.
@@Transparent_mindyeah, I agree fully, it is imo the genre with the most potential upside of implemented and done correctly, but tends to suffer from just repetition or unreliable characters or scenarios. That said, of maybe the 10 anime off the top of my head that I really consider just masterpieces, I can think of 2 that are romance like clannad and love is war, and then steins gate as well which while not primarily a romance, has hints of it. There are also dozens more that while not 10/10 or true masterpieces are pretty damn close, and really high up there like toradora, golden time, fruits basket, ouran host club, horimaya, and just so many more.
That's interesting. I'm curious as to why you thought it was clickbait. Maybe using the word "disaster" gives the impression that these films were terrible and I was going to tear them to shreds but got something else instead?
Garden of Words 2013, Your Name 2016, Weathering With You 2019 and Suzume 2022. If that makes any sense, then we will witness another masterpiece in 2025 hopefully. Also I do wish that Sir Makoto have literally made these movies in such order to give us an endgame where all these characters stories of reunion or love life is shown while interacting with each other even if it is in another universe or same. An Endgame of love that surpassed the past, present and future. Seriously thinking about these only is giving me goosebumps 😂😂.. Sir Makoto is a mad genius ❤
Admittedly, I didn't actually catch that until after making this video - and I had watched Your Name 4 times at that point! Still, it's a great detail/cameo, though.
There's another detail aswell, the NTT Docomo Yoyogi Building from Garden of Words also appears in Weathering With You, and carries on the rain motif pretty directly from that movie.
I watched Suzume in Japan right when it released. They handed us some goodies like postcards and a booklet with behind the scenes and making off information. If I remember correctly, the concept of these 3 movies as a trilogy was planned even in the early stages of Your Name. Only one of these movies was supposd to be dramatically different though, I cant remember and I sadly dont have the booklet anymore.
Although I'm still a big fan of Shinkai's early works (Byousoku5Centimeter & Kumo no Mukou), I appreciate your insights in the newer films that didn't click with me. It makes much more sense now why these films were made...
While I was watching i really thought this was an incredibly popular channel, cue my surprise at seeing this only had 30 likes! This sense that the films are interconnected was the prime selling point for me when my friend convinced me to watch them, and i believe it greatly influenced my watching experience against someone's who didn't know. After the movie marathon I kept getting this sense that yes, they were connected in a way that's not in the actual narrative unlike what my friend insisted, but I was never able to articulate that point. You, on the other hand, were able to expand on that idea beautifully. Your arguments were more than what I was expecting (including the edition note lol) and everything finally truly made sense. Your scripting is phenomenal and the editing was also great. Many kudos to you!!!!
Thank you for providing this perspective on the film. I actually really enjoyed Suzume, moreso than Your Name, but framing the three films as a trilogy really helped me better understand Makoto Shinkai’s vision better. I think there are a lot of reviews that are quick to dismiss Suzume as uninspired but I think these reviews (and myself as well prior to your video) unfortunately missed the interpretation you’ve put forth in this video essay. Thanks for the insight!
imo hodaka was not being selfish. The old dude (the guy who told natsumi about the weather maiden's fate) says that there is nothing abnormal about the weather. It simply didn't make sense for 1 person to sacrifice themself for a few years of sunshine
I just stumbled on your video and absolutely loved it! I accidentally misread your title and thought you were saying the trilogy was a disaster at first 😅😂 Great video! Just subscribed!
I super love these films, after watching "Weathering with You", I knew right then that it's somehow connected to "Your Name" and so when they announced "Suzume", my mind suddenly "This is another connected story". I guess "The Garden of Words" is also connected to these three.
It's not like I forgot about them, I fully intended to include them in the video, but since I had the deadline of getting the video done by the end of the month, time was not on my side. I do agree that giving those trilogies even a brief mention would've helped because they are all great.
That's funny because I originally wanted to bring up that trilogy in the video (because, y'know, for obvious reasons) but by that point the video was getting a bit long so I unfortunately I had to cut it. But yeah, those films are amazing, especially Wolfwalkers!
@@IrishAnimeFan Ahah I can get your reasons x) But yeah I can understand why you kept only the 3 live action examples ! Wolfwalkers is amazing, Secret of Kells is one of my childhood movies, and Song of the sea is beautiful, they all have their own styles but very interesting common points :)
i was just about to rewatch weathering with you lol. I tried to watch your name, but i found it too confusing and therefore i didn't continue it, and i still haven't watched suzume yet. But, weathering with you really does resonate with me: I love everything from the story to the animation to the romance between hodaka and hina. The chase to get himano back and trying to revive her was one of the most tense scenes ive ever watched.
yeah the title can mislead some people, i for one clicked cause i thought you were going to harshly criticize each one. But you didnt actually LMAO! maybe you could add " " to disaster so that it is less an adjective for trilogy idk. anyways, good video !!!
I think Suzume is a little overrated considering the fact that they started comparing it to your name. it’s ok comparison because your name has many errors during the narration, but the story is much better than "suzume" ( the suzume one seemed a little empty, very different from the Shinkai movies that often have twists and turns like your name in which you discover the time lapse). wheatering with you instead seemed underrated by many, has much less mistakes than your name and has a much more intriguing story than that of suzume( the only thing I didn’t like was the gun inserted in the story without sense and the lack of explanation of the past of the protagonists) to make me understand I think we all wanted to know why Hodaka ran away from home...
You're probably the first person to set the context of it being a trilogy, which basically eliminates the criticism of the films being too similar or the accusation of copying your name all over again. Seeing them as a theme with different character plots really makes sense!
Thank you for the comment! Yeah, one of the reasons why I made the video was because I wanted to give a different perspective on these films that didn't involve the misconception that Shinkai basically makes the same film over and over again - which I think is a bit of an unfair assumption to make (and this is coming from someone who wasn't even the biggest Shinkai fan before making the video). I don't think this video will dispel that narrative entirely, but I hope it changes how some people view and talk about them in a way that's more productive than saying "it's like Your Name but not as good".
Suzume 100% doesn’t copy Your Name at all. It’s amazing and stands super well on its own. I think Weathering With you is just slightly guilty of it though, but I overall have different issues with Weathering With You that make it kinda mediocre in my opinion
I really felt ,even if they are not a trilogy, they happened in the same world and I don't mind that at all.
My jaw dropped on the floor when i watched this video that did a really good job on exploring the themes in a really easy to understand way, only for my eyes to pan down and realise that you deserve wayyyyy more more like and comments, your explanation is so good i was shocked.
Thank you!
I haven't seen Weathering with You, but Your Name and Suzume are genuinely some of my favorite movies. There are very few movies that make me cry because of their pure unfiltered beauty, but these ones got me. I never connected the dots between the two and didn't even realize they were made by the same person/people.
I also didn't know about the real world connection to Tohoku. I didn't even know that tragedy happened. Thank you so much for informing me (and I'm sure others) about this tragic event and how, somehow, something beautiful still came out of it.
You should absolutely watch Weathering With You! It is a phenomenal film, and is by far my favorite film by Shinkai!
Definitly@@madmanonyt9943
I have always hated the romance genre in movies….watching these 3 i have learnt to appreciate this genre…..
Glad they were able to change your perspective of the genre!
Nah, romance is a genre which has the potential to become one of the best genres if implemented carefully. Although, it can be the worst if not handled well.
@@Transparent_mindyeah, I agree fully, it is imo the genre with the most potential upside of implemented and done correctly, but tends to suffer from just repetition or unreliable characters or scenarios. That said, of maybe the 10 anime off the top of my head that I really consider just masterpieces, I can think of 2 that are romance like clannad and love is war, and then steins gate as well which while not primarily a romance, has hints of it. There are also dozens more that while not 10/10 or true masterpieces are pretty damn close, and really high up there like toradora, golden time, fruits basket, ouran host club, horimaya, and just so many more.
i got clickbaited with the title lol
That's interesting. I'm curious as to why you thought it was clickbait. Maybe using the word "disaster" gives the impression that these films were terrible and I was going to tear them to shreds but got something else instead?
Exactly.
Me too
@@IrishAnimeFan exactly what I was expecting lol
@@IrishAnimeFan Makoto Shinkai's "Destruction" Trilogy
Garden of Words 2013, Your Name 2016, Weathering With You 2019 and Suzume 2022. If that makes any sense, then we will witness another masterpiece in 2025 hopefully.
Also I do wish that Sir Makoto have literally made these movies in such order to give us an endgame where all these characters stories of reunion or love life is shown while interacting with each other even if it is in another universe or same. An Endgame of love that surpassed the past, present and future. Seriously thinking about these only is giving me goosebumps 😂😂.. Sir Makoto is a mad genius ❤
It's even further connected but less so with Garden of Words. The teacher talking about twilight is the same one who said she was "moving back home".
Admittedly, I didn't actually catch that until after making this video - and I had watched Your Name 4 times at that point! Still, it's a great detail/cameo, though.
There's another detail aswell, the NTT Docomo Yoyogi Building from Garden of Words also appears in Weathering With You, and carries on the rain motif pretty directly from that movie.
I watched Suzume in Japan right when it released. They handed us some goodies like postcards and a booklet with behind the scenes and making off information. If I remember correctly, the concept of these 3 movies as a trilogy was planned even in the early stages of Your Name. Only one of these movies was supposd to be dramatically different though, I cant remember and I sadly dont have the booklet anymore.
Although I'm still a big fan of Shinkai's early works (Byousoku5Centimeter & Kumo no Mukou), I appreciate your insights in the newer films that didn't click with me. It makes much more sense now why these films were made...
While I was watching i really thought this was an incredibly popular channel, cue my surprise at seeing this only had 30 likes!
This sense that the films are interconnected was the prime selling point for me when my friend convinced me to watch them, and i believe it greatly influenced my watching experience against someone's who didn't know. After the movie marathon I kept getting this sense that yes, they were connected in a way that's not in the actual narrative unlike what my friend insisted, but I was never able to articulate that point. You, on the other hand, were able to expand on that idea beautifully. Your arguments were more than what I was expecting (including the edition note lol) and everything finally truly made sense.
Your scripting is phenomenal and the editing was also great. Many kudos to you!!!!
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad my video gave you a better understanding of these films!
Thank you for providing this perspective on the film. I actually really enjoyed Suzume, moreso than Your Name, but framing the three films as a trilogy really helped me better understand Makoto Shinkai’s vision better. I think there are a lot of reviews that are quick to dismiss Suzume as uninspired but I think these reviews (and myself as well prior to your video) unfortunately missed the interpretation you’ve put forth in this video essay. Thanks for the insight!
imo hodaka was not being selfish. The old dude (the guy who told natsumi about the weather maiden's fate) says that there is nothing abnormal about the weather. It simply didn't make sense for 1 person to sacrifice themself for a few years of sunshine
This was a lovely video
Thank you!
weathering with you and your name are in the same universe though, because both mcs of your name appear as side characters in weathering with you
Amazing analysis. Truly insightful and worth every second of listening. I can’t wait to see what you have in store for the future!
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video that much!
As a mega fan of Makoto Shinkai myself, this video gets an A+ and a 👍! Keep up the good work man
Thanks a lot! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I just stumbled on your video and absolutely loved it! I accidentally misread your title and thought you were saying the trilogy was a disaster at first 😅😂
Great video! Just subscribed!
great video. newfound appreciation for these movies that i didnt initially like
I super love these films, after watching "Weathering with You", I knew right then that it's somehow connected to "Your Name" and so when they announced "Suzume", my mind suddenly "This is another connected story". I guess "The Garden of Words" is also connected to these three.
Your channel deserves more attention!
Thank you!
You forgot about the star wars trilogy, the god father trilogy, back to the future trilogy
It's not like I forgot about them, I fully intended to include them in the video, but since I had the deadline of getting the video done by the end of the month, time was not on my side. I do agree that giving those trilogies even a brief mention would've helped because they are all great.
Those are sequel trilogies, not thematic trilogies. The first thing he does in the video is explain the difference
Your introduction immediately reminded me of Tomm Moore's Irish folklore trilogy !
That's funny because I originally wanted to bring up that trilogy in the video (because, y'know, for obvious reasons) but by that point the video was getting a bit long so I unfortunately I had to cut it. But yeah, those films are amazing, especially Wolfwalkers!
@@IrishAnimeFan Ahah I can get your reasons x) But yeah I can understand why you kept only the 3 live action examples ! Wolfwalkers is amazing, Secret of Kells is one of my childhood movies, and Song of the sea is beautiful, they all have their own styles but very interesting common points :)
i was just about to rewatch weathering with you lol. I tried to watch your name, but i found it too confusing and therefore i didn't continue it, and i still haven't watched suzume yet. But, weathering with you really does resonate with me: I love everything from the story to the animation to the romance between hodaka and hina. The chase to get himano back and trying to revive her was one of the most tense scenes ive ever watched.
Love you bro
I hope they make another movie like them I really enjoy your name and the others
Thank you.
Your Name, Your Name 2, and Your Name 3
Still best movie i ever laid my eyes.
yeah the title can mislead some people, i for one clicked cause i thought you were going to harshly criticize each one. But you didnt actually LMAO! maybe you could add " " to disaster so that it is less an adjective for trilogy idk. anyways, good video !!!
I was worried because you said it was a disaster like I thought you hated the fims, guess I was wrong
I think Suzume is a little overrated considering the fact that they started comparing it to your name.
it’s ok comparison because your name has many errors during the narration, but the story is much better than "suzume" ( the suzume one seemed a little empty, very different from the Shinkai movies that often have twists and turns like your name in which you discover the time lapse).
wheatering with you instead seemed underrated by many, has much less mistakes than your name and has a much more intriguing story than that of suzume( the only thing I didn’t like was the gun inserted in the story without sense and the lack of explanation of the past of the protagonists) to make me understand I think we all wanted to know why Hodaka ran away from home...
Sakura ia best from "I Want To Eat Your Pancreas ❤❤❤
Disaster? I think you're joking, and they aren't trilogy Makoto connects all of his creations one way or another
Bro did not watch the video
I actually didn't like suzume that much rest were awesome
Same I kinda fell asleep an hour in
yes it was kinda boring ngl.
Real