Game Theory: Did Dream FAKE His Speedrun? A Final Analysis.

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    There has been a controversy brewing on the Minecraft side of UA-cam centered around well known Minecraft creator Dream. He's been accused of faking his speedrun and it has caused a lot of stir. I'm not here to point fingers or accuse anyone. What I'm doing today, Theorists, is going over the facts of this situation and why it is a lot more complicated than people are making it out to be.
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  • @Queen_Club
    @Queen_Club 3 роки тому +22421

    For those who want the answer: He doesn’t give a answer

    • @wrldbestistaken
      @wrldbestistaken 3 роки тому +489

      Ctrl-c
      Ctrl-v

    • @elbenezermirabuena7755
      @elbenezermirabuena7755 3 роки тому +125

      Copied

    • @mikedanielespeja6128
      @mikedanielespeja6128 3 роки тому +778

      What's the problem if this message is copied? It's too vague and common of a thing to say in a video like this for it to matter whether or not it's copied. Queen's club is just warning others.

    • @YouGot2BeKitten
      @YouGot2BeKitten 3 роки тому +504

      Anyone who thought MatPat of all people would even have any clue what he was talking about when it came to this topic anyway is clueless to begin with. All the experts on the subject say Dream cheated. So Dream cheated. That’s really all it comes down to.

    • @simplyfitness892
      @simplyfitness892 3 роки тому +253

      @@YouGot2BeKitten no matts great at maths and is fully capable he just proved that, he just showed dream cheated without stating that he cheated idk why probs to avoid the drama side a bit? Not sure but that don’t mean he’s clueless.

  • @Boffy
    @Boffy 3 роки тому +9584

    you... didn’t answer the question in the title?

  • @Dang.-
    @Dang.- Рік тому +2750

    Everyone: Did he cheat?
    Matpat: "The divorce rates in Maine are caused by the consumption of margarine"

  • @User24x
    @User24x 2 роки тому +2159

    Now that Dream confessed to cheating, I think it's clear why MatPat avoided making a conclusion: He knew the math said that it was very likely that Dream cheated but didn't want to conclude that since he knew Dream.

  • @BarelySociable
    @BarelySociable 3 роки тому +23567

    When you want to cash in on the controversy but don't want to take a side

    • @Slackow
      @Slackow 3 роки тому +559

      Yeah and also what was pretty funny was the exact idea for a tournament he pitched at the end was already happening. They use special datapacks that make all their piglin trades to the same to eliminate rng and then they run the same worlds.

    • @dump1ing.2005.
      @dump1ing.2005. 3 роки тому +85

      The true winner

    • @Michael-Hammerschmidt
      @Michael-Hammerschmidt 3 роки тому +672

      Honestly. Not just disappointing but downright disingenuous for someone who talked ad nauseum about his passion for statistics to not just come to a conclusion but almost entirely brush over the mathematical meat of the subject at all.

    • @aryan7767
      @aryan7767 3 роки тому +287

      @@Michael-Hammerschmidt yeah I used to like these guys but now they're so disingenuous and the content is downright bad. Its not entertaining and informative like it used to be, but just whatever is the most popular trend to get the most views

    • @mediy0
      @mediy0 3 роки тому +10

      Bruh

  • @janb.3600
    @janb.3600 3 роки тому +7728

    Everyone: "So did Dream cheat or not??"
    Matpat: "The only winning move is not to answer."

    • @Guztav1337
      @Guztav1337 3 роки тому +124

      The best video covering this, is the video "how lucky is too lucky" by Matt Parker a professional math communicator.

    • @the_codex4449
      @the_codex4449 3 роки тому +44

      I think it's best not to give an exact answer leaving us, the viewers, to fill in the blanks.

    • @pika3207
      @pika3207 3 роки тому +22

      Cuz dream stans

    • @calebgarage4254
      @calebgarage4254 3 роки тому +29

      The evidence says he did but he IS Matpats friend so he probably wouldn’t say it

    • @the_codex4449
      @the_codex4449 3 роки тому +19

      @@calebgarage4254 in my opinion it’s best to not share opinions that may lead to being used later in your life as evidence you’re a bad person so. Even more if you are one of the best characters in an animated show

  • @derkatzenmensch220
    @derkatzenmensch220 2 роки тому +1459

    "did he cheat?"
    Mat : im just a theorist, no astrophysicist

  • @rowanravindran8029
    @rowanravindran8029 Рік тому +1169

    Everyone: "Did Dream cheat?"
    Matpat: "Yesn't"

    • @yesnt872
      @yesnt872 Рік тому +8

      lol

    • @cancernooblol7031
      @cancernooblol7031 Рік тому +17

      He just doesnt want to get cancelled or go into drama,my man i am sorry if you are sad if he did not ans

    • @ravio5868
      @ravio5868 Рік тому +3

      Dream: Yes

    • @beyondwilline3634
      @beyondwilline3634 10 місяців тому +3

      Matpat loves dream's creme

    • @CEK14
      @CEK14 9 місяців тому +1

      Flipping a coin, 100 times and getting 60+

  • @DecipheringAngel
    @DecipheringAngel 3 роки тому +3406

    *“Cool, but did Dream cheat?”*
    MatPat: “So anyways, I started advertising”

    • @crystalkirlia4553
      @crystalkirlia4553 3 роки тому +37

      It seems at around 17:04 there are a few words flashing on the screen... part of a GT ARG game maybe? Idk, I'm not smart enough to play them but if anyone else does, I hope this helps.
      What I got so far:
      Edit: PMFM LIB IFYF HEX EBUB

    • @darkflightdreamer1698
      @darkflightdreamer1698 3 роки тому +3

      @@crystalkirlia4553 olk

    • @ElJefe-ol9ow
      @ElJefe-ol9ow 3 роки тому +3

      🤣🤣

    • @SparkyFolf
      @SparkyFolf 3 роки тому +4

      @@crystalkirlia4553 what do you mean, I see 2 guys and DATA, there are some random symbols raining down in the bakgrund though

    • @holywizard6945
      @holywizard6945 3 роки тому +13

      Stop searching, everything say YES.
      And it's just before it's too frustrating to play a game for millennia waiting for luck.

  • @GrahamBV
    @GrahamBV 3 роки тому +2637

    Us: "Hey MatPat, did you think Dream cheated?"
    MatPat: Competetitve Minecraft is pretty cool

    • @joshwhite2660
      @joshwhite2660 3 роки тому +5

      yes

    • @joshwhite2660
      @joshwhite2660 3 роки тому +6

      this is wat he said

    • @DoubtlessCar0
      @DoubtlessCar0 3 роки тому +19

      @@joshwhite2660 I'm confused, did you say "yes Dream cheated" and that someone with authority proved that, or "Yes, MatPat did basically just say that"?

    • @diamentus3774
      @diamentus3774 3 роки тому +5

      I don't know why but competitive minecraft gives me some TF2 vibes

    • @goroakechi6126
      @goroakechi6126 3 роки тому +3

      @@diamentus3774
      It’s the Casual/competitive debate all over again.

  • @HiIAmSpirit1
    @HiIAmSpirit1 Рік тому +81

    Everyone: Did Dream cheat?
    Dream: No
    Speedrunning team: Yes
    MatPat: Says everything but the answer
    Dream later: Yes, but it was an ACCIDENT
    Everyone: So... did Dream cheat?

  • @JustTryingToChillOut
    @JustTryingToChillOut 11 місяців тому +38

    "So, did Dream actually cheat?"
    MatPat: "We do know that quantum physics is very important for the understanding of the universe"

  • @Sethica
    @Sethica 3 роки тому +44595

    Everyone’s talking about Matpat’s conclusion but I’m here thinking about how Matpat pronounces versions like “one point one six”

    • @OreganoParsley
      @OreganoParsley 3 роки тому +2231

      @BECOMING BTS stfu

    • @HxCMusicMaster
      @HxCMusicMaster 3 роки тому +717

      That's fairly common, isn't it?

    • @YellyOld
      @YellyOld 3 роки тому +769

      @Harry Styles go away, bot.

    • @corvidashgame5613
      @corvidashgame5613 3 роки тому +254

      Him pronouncing LaTeX like "lay-teks" instead of "lay-tek" is what got to me lol

    • @randomreviews787
      @randomreviews787 3 роки тому +246

      Well you can’t have one point sixteen it’s just not a number it would have been 2.6 by now

  • @jonahweisbrod3978
    @jonahweisbrod3978 3 роки тому +2226

    Everyone: "Did dream cheat"
    Matpat: "and this is why 6 is afraid of 7"

    • @marmalademan2409
      @marmalademan2409 3 роки тому +13

      Huuuuh did 7 8 oh no 9

    • @wantedapple144
      @wantedapple144 3 роки тому +20

      @@marmalademan2409 No it’s because 7 robbed a bank.

    • @Jequarius67
      @Jequarius67 3 роки тому +3

      @@wantedapple144 bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @Eligos669
      @Eligos669 3 роки тому +38

      @@wantedapple144 because 7 is a registered 6 offender

    • @wantedapple144
      @wantedapple144 3 роки тому +6

      @@Eligos669 that was better.

  • @accuratememin
    @accuratememin 2 роки тому +86

    "i don't want to beat a dead horse"
    Dream almost a year later: check this out

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
    @zombathinlostleghackercat5233 2 роки тому +75

    He found knowledge in being a professor. But MatPat found more in talking about video games.

  • @rookieart8189
    @rookieart8189 3 роки тому +2855

    Everyone: did he cheat?
    Mattpat: so thats how I found out Mario was a sociopath

    • @pentasis
      @pentasis 3 роки тому +26

      @Cyber Seas This video was for MatPat to give his ACTUAL opinion on the situation. You're just saying that it's bad because it isn't what you wanted.

    • @ariyantosupratman1956
      @ariyantosupratman1956 3 роки тому +10

      At this point people just accusing dream cheating because they hate him, no logical explanation anymore. They just use that 1 of 7.5 trillion number whatever as arguments, there is no other proof that he is use cheat in form of object. and you see here people just say he is cheat because they hate dream, let me tell you this just because some speedrunner who don't have any mathematical certificates and run a random simulation with wrong mechanics say dream is cheat doesn't mean that dream is actually cheating. It's just trend now if you hate dream you are a good, smart, and wise person.
      and you guy's are the worst rather than listening to what Matpat say from what his analysis and research have done, you guys just meme him because you think you're funny and smart because "EveRyBodY kNoW dREaM CheATinG". at least Matpat try to analyze it by him self not just bashing around and listen to what "Veteran Speedrunner" who don't have experience on real calculations and probability. Check yourself out fifth grader.

    • @XrayTheMyth23
      @XrayTheMyth23 3 роки тому +39

      @@pentasis to be fair the title is total bait, not really the commenter's fault for expecting a more factual video when it was just an opinion video

    • @KittenStudiosYT
      @KittenStudiosYT 3 роки тому +5

      @Cyber Seas here. There’s a low chance of winning the lottery but you won several times, you have luck . Use that but in Minecraft terms

    • @savikshamirana9198
      @savikshamirana9198 3 роки тому

      💔💔
      ua-cam.com/video/9bwkbSfUpo8/v-deo.html

  • @MDPOPE
    @MDPOPE 3 роки тому +4445

    "Did Dream Cheat?"
    "well, gambling sucks, just make a tourney"

    • @aeleequis
      @aeleequis 3 роки тому +49

      simply made the nether regionals, it's pretty a cool tournament of minecraft 1.16 races

    • @mcskrzypek
      @mcskrzypek 3 роки тому +80

      exactly. First dislike I have ever given to this channel.

    • @CharlyOmega
      @CharlyOmega 3 роки тому +2

      @UCsT8jU9tH7bRt7qA-VZ3NTA wtf
      Edit: he said we should just kill dream

    • @willhholland
      @willhholland 3 роки тому +33

      lmaoo
      *DID DREAM CHEAT?*
      idk but tourney speed runs sound way better...

    • @waddlesbell7457
      @waddlesbell7457 3 роки тому +65

      I unironically agree with this. All “arguments” against him only shows how hard it is to believe and not how much he cheated. They fail to acknowledge that rounding probability to 0 is never good.
      This is what happens if you ignore the existence of the small possibilities.

  • @ginjutsu_art
    @ginjutsu_art 4 місяці тому +9

    Watching this in 2024 is actually wild😭 ppl were rly arguing wether his minecraft speedruns were faked while he was out here talking to minors😭😭💀

  • @superstarwarrior2933
    @superstarwarrior2933 2 роки тому +78

    This whole thing just goes to show how influential famous UA-camrs can be

  • @gghostin
    @gghostin 3 роки тому +3890

    Everyone: “Did dream cheat?”
    Matpat: “So going back to fnaf and the bite of 87...”

  • @GoldenKirby
    @GoldenKirby 3 роки тому +3278

    " Did he cheat? "
    MatPat: *" This is a final analysis, not a final answer. "*

  • @Azami_chan
    @Azami_chan 4 місяці тому +11

    Mats old vids popping the first on my page i feel like crying

  • @Just_Caden
    @Just_Caden 2 роки тому +31

    I think matpat just wanted an excuse to talk about some interesting math, I respect that.

  • @nathanlee7194
    @nathanlee7194 3 роки тому +7416

    Viewers: "Did he cheat or not?"
    Matpat: "Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell."

    • @senzasmentalissues474
      @senzasmentalissues474 3 роки тому +56

      Thank you for this

    • @Commando_scylla
      @Commando_scylla 3 роки тому +13

      See matpat cant get any actual evidence hes a chicken

    • @nathanlee7194
      @nathanlee7194 3 роки тому +141

      @@Commando_scylla I think he just didn’t want to insult Dream because he has a massive army of stans that would raid all of his videos.

    • @pavdgalaxy1965
      @pavdgalaxy1965 3 роки тому +36

      @@Commando_scylla it’s a theory, if you didn’t know LOL. But if you changed a necessary drop to 50% drop rate. You would have a higher chance at submitting a ru whilst getting 0% of the drops than 100% of the drops, even though they have EQUAL chances of dropping. In the stream the SINGLE moderator (who is coincidently banned from the speedrun staff community) erased over 100 failed runs that dream used, which makes his drop rate the same as illuminas, 40%. BUT that mod cherry picked the targeted runs on 1.16 which came to a false conclusion of a very high chance (7.5 trillion). It’s also verified that the moderator DID cherry pick all of Dreams suspicious activities and removed all of his VERIFIED information and runs.

    • @erikgutierrez5265
      @erikgutierrez5265 3 роки тому +20

      @@Commando_scylla Wouldn't say chicken since he answered the question if as the audience you still didn't interpret maybe its not him who didn't get evidence, but rather you just not understanding more importantly in the intro he said "I'm not answering the cheating but rather to provide information" I mean if you didn't get a better understanding of this then sorry bud if I missed the first part

  • @ThirtyVirus
    @ThirtyVirus 3 роки тому +8967

    "just watch this is going to be on the trending tab"
    *#1 on trending for gaming*

  • @MrBen-zv1ip
    @MrBen-zv1ip 2 роки тому +80

    If you don't want to look for the answer and spoiler alert mat doesn't come to any conclusion (shocking)
    Dream cheated and he admitted to it but didn't apologised for it. He just shifted blame

  • @tuna3425
    @tuna3425 2 роки тому +18

    0:55 is how I feel when someone starts lecturing me.

  • @ryanexx5250
    @ryanexx5250 3 роки тому +1906

    It’s great how Minecraft can simultaneously be the most relaxed and intense game at the same time

    • @EpochIsEpic
      @EpochIsEpic 3 роки тому +20

      That’s mostly because Minecraft is essentially a content generation platform at this point

    • @marson_6655
      @marson_6655 3 роки тому

      True

    • @angelaplays
      @angelaplays 3 роки тому

      Facts

    • @Tonjit41
      @Tonjit41 3 роки тому

      Minecraft is EVERYTHING

    • @buddergolem9463
      @buddergolem9463 3 роки тому +1

      That’s the appeal, it’s a game that you always wanna play because it can be played like any kind of game

  • @lucii1056
    @lucii1056 3 роки тому +1198

    "Did Dream cheat or not?"
    Also MatPat: "margarine and divorce"

  • @Evanino527
    @Evanino527 2 місяці тому +5

    Everyone: did dream cheat?
    Matpat: explaining the entire lore of the universe

  • @notforvideoschannel
    @notforvideoschannel 8 місяців тому +5

    Dream: Admits he was cheating "a bit"
    Dream fans: "No! He didn't cheat!"

  • @roselandacademyshorts5571
    @roselandacademyshorts5571 3 роки тому +6235

    Matpat was secretly the math professor dream hired

  • @PinkPixelProductions
    @PinkPixelProductions 3 роки тому +3723

    “So did dream cheat?”
    MatPat: AND NOW A WORD FROM OUR SPONSOR!

    • @darkvoid4512
      @darkvoid4512 3 роки тому +6

      lol

    • @meowdasia
      @meowdasia 3 роки тому +16

      RAID:SHADOW LEGENDS!!!!

    • @kulesama3185
      @kulesama3185 3 роки тому +1

      @@meowdasia åa

    • @cyberseai9305
      @cyberseai9305 3 роки тому +18

      Now we have an answer "YES"

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 2 роки тому +4

      I mean ya can't forget the sponsors man.. ya need that clout and sponsors for the money rolling in.. Flexing ON the FAns!

  • @just_an_internet_explorer8038
    @just_an_internet_explorer8038 Рік тому +9

    POV you know your friend threw the paper airplane during class and the teacher asks you if you saw them do it.

  • @joellakairupan
    @joellakairupan Рік тому +14

    Matpat, I got 1 year of math and science ahead of my class all because of watching your videos. Thank you for teaching me things that my teachers took weeks to do.❤

  • @TheBloodsuger150
    @TheBloodsuger150 3 роки тому +2339

    “Did Dream cheat at Minecraft speedrunning or not?”
    MatPat: “Minecraft speedrunning cheated Dream”

    • @theisjepsen22
      @theisjepsen22 3 роки тому +65

      I think that is the best answer to that question, honestly.

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 3 роки тому +15

      The best answer you could give to that question! You are BRILLIANT, Oliver Payne :)

    • @Nezkredk
      @Nezkredk 3 роки тому +19

      @@theisjepsen22 Correction. Best Joke* Answer.

    • @swift_sa
      @swift_sa 3 роки тому +1

      Lol🤣🤣🤣

    • @MangaSkills
      @MangaSkills 3 роки тому +2

      Yo I like your statement haha That like one of best comment here

  • @samw4866
    @samw4866 3 роки тому +1978

    “Something I’d like to call sight reading”
    *smiles in band kid*

    • @sallyworm2358
      @sallyworm2358 3 роки тому +16

      What? He liked your comment?

    • @gibbabibba
      @gibbabibba 3 роки тому +5

      Bruh same

    • @maggiefulop
      @maggiefulop 3 роки тому +25

      *smiles in cultured Linglingwannabe orchestra kid*

    • @ebuslamentee5963
      @ebuslamentee5963 3 роки тому +22

      @@sallyworm2358 no he just slapped a big virtual sticker next to it, in the same place where the heart usually goes

    • @sallyworm2358
      @sallyworm2358 3 роки тому +4

      @@ebuslamentee5963 thanks for clearing that up 👍

  • @davidjones8047
    @davidjones8047 2 роки тому +11

    Fans: So did Dream cheat or no?
    Matpat: The fitness gram pacer test is an aerobic...

  • @xlightningplayz9270
    @xlightningplayz9270 Рік тому +7

    Plot Twist: MatPat was secretly the math professor Dream hired to cover his tracks… lol

  • @shlagmite3653
    @shlagmite3653 3 роки тому +678

    Matpat trying to not cause controversy:

    • @aquileslame6897
      @aquileslame6897 3 роки тому +2

      Hello brother

    • @drakk5
      @drakk5 3 роки тому +5

      @I LOVE ALL bruv

    • @goatmilk1
      @goatmilk1 3 роки тому +8

      @Harry Styles no it won't

    • @largebig79
      @largebig79 3 роки тому +2

      Trying to avoid the wrath of the dream stans

    • @hjskywalker1414
      @hjskywalker1414 3 роки тому +2

      @I LOVE ALL SHUT UP AUJSJSIWIANNS

  • @Asylia5911
    @Asylia5911 3 роки тому +1731

    Watchers: So... did he cheat or not?
    MatPat: Y’Know, Piglin Bartering ruins speedrunning and I think that sucks

    • @FabricOfReality73
      @FabricOfReality73 3 роки тому +116

      Though he dodged the point he is correct on that one, it does suck.

    • @francescocostanzo8225
      @francescocostanzo8225 3 роки тому +41

      @@FabricOfReality73 no one forced dream to speedrun minecraft or that version of minecraft

    • @awheckitsgoldie
      @awheckitsgoldie 3 роки тому +3

      Missed the point

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 3 роки тому +17

      @@FabricOfReality73 Nobody forces anyone to speedrun MC 1.16. Some speedrunners enjoy RNG, some hate it. Those who love it play games that contain it, those who hate it play games that don't have it or where you are capable of manipulating it to a reasonable enough degree. Piglin bartering may ruin speedrunning, but so did bugfixes in other games, which is why speedrunners play on earlier versions of those games. I really don't get why people make so much drama about stuff like that...

    • @TheKrossRoads
      @TheKrossRoads 3 роки тому +27

      Disappointing, but what else could he do? If he takes a side he gets jumped by the other side, and both sides are ravenous now. I suppose he could have just not done the video at all, but Matpat actually makes a great point here: Maybe 1.16 speedruns as a whole need to be thrown out.
      Don't get me (or Matpat) wrong, RNG can be really fun, and test the skill and adaptation abilities of the speedrunner. However, not all RNG does that; and a good example of the bad RNG is piglin bartering. No amount of skill or adaptation is going to help you if you're just not lucky. Since the bad RNG is so instrumental in the speedrun, that calls the validity of those speedruns into question. After all, speedruns are supposed to be a display of skill and mastery, not someone getting really lucky.
      So things like throwing out all the runs and putting in a "no piglin bartering" rule would be a more accurate reflection of mastery.

  • @unnamedracer9757
    @unnamedracer9757 7 місяців тому +1

    I believe we need to dub MatPat in the intro MathPat

  • @BruceBatman2much
    @BruceBatman2much 3 місяці тому +2

    It hurts now to watch as you explain your reasoning for why you started this channel only to see that your leaving now

  • @Sahtoovi
    @Sahtoovi 3 роки тому +290

    What I expected: Yes he did cheat / No he did not cheat
    What I got: Lol idk but here's some math

    • @TruthShaIIWin
      @TruthShaIIWin 3 роки тому +3

      I become Albert Einstein after watching this

    • @EldritchGoddess
      @EldritchGoddess 3 роки тому +1

      thats what im here for really

    • @abidulmuhaiminrahbar
      @abidulmuhaiminrahbar 3 роки тому +2

      The problem with his last topic is that how many do you consider as variables. The main 2 variables to cheat would be easily pearl and blaze rods drops easily. Because you can find a god seed in 2 or 3 streams but you cant ensure the good rng of pearls and blaze rods. So, if iron golem drops 3 iron, not 5 that can be solve by only wasting like 10 sec. But if you dont get pearls and blaze rods early, this can take you 5+ mins easily.

    • @vcrmOnW
      @vcrmOnW 3 роки тому

      He pretty much said validating speed runs on tamed rng numbers (which do get out of hand since it's rng) will always result in controversy

  • @Daisy-uw5oz
    @Daisy-uw5oz 3 роки тому +4860

    “Did he cheat?”
    Mat: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

  • @spencerbrothers4594
    @spencerbrothers4594 2 роки тому +6

    I’ve never heard someone pronounce it ‘latex’ so confidently. Love it

  • @ace_5813
    @ace_5813 Рік тому +5

    You made a 23 minute video trying to figure out if your so called “son” cheated in Minecraft. This is taking are you winning son memes to a whole new level-

  • @TyroneBrown_0
    @TyroneBrown_0 3 роки тому +2300

    "Did dream fake his speedrun?"
    Mat: idfk u tell me

    • @weirdofromhalo
      @weirdofromhalo 3 роки тому +20

      Watch Karl Jobst

    • @azrael_morningstar
      @azrael_morningstar 3 роки тому +46

      I think he said there is not enough proof to say he 100% cheated .

    • @dahgnzg5508
      @dahgnzg5508 3 роки тому +7

      @@azrael_morningstar karl jobst said he cheated

    • @azrael_morningstar
      @azrael_morningstar 3 роки тому +2

      @@dahgnzg5508 ik what he said but still not 100%

    • @adriking5383
      @adriking5383 3 роки тому +20

      YES HE CHEATED !! This Video Proofs it: ua-cam.com/video/8Ko3TdPy0TU/v-deo.html (The Video concludes that even if every Person on Earth played a minecraft Speedrun every second for 100 Years Then We would still Not achieve this amount of luck that Dream had in his speedrun BY FAR.) In fact If 10 Billion People on Earth did one minecraft speedrun every second then we would need to play Minecraft for 100000 Years just to get as Lucky as Dream got.

  • @nejmadhilo5462
    @nejmadhilo5462 3 роки тому +2653

    everyone: wait did dream cheat?
    matpat; “even better why is dream?”

    • @sunium5814
      @sunium5814 3 роки тому +50

      even better how is dream

    • @thoughts359
      @thoughts359 3 роки тому +28

      @@sunium5814 where is dream?

    • @sunium5814
      @sunium5814 3 роки тому +8

      @@thoughts359 on earth

    • @kazoohashrew
      @kazoohashrew 3 роки тому +10

      @@sunium5814 even better is how dream

    • @Bread-Die
      @Bread-Die 3 роки тому +10

      Why was dream

  • @MyGamester
    @MyGamester 4 місяці тому +2

    Spoiler:Dream came out later and admitted he tampered with game files to put the odds in his favour. SHOCKER.

  • @billahmutasim2011
    @billahmutasim2011 9 місяців тому +1

    Did dream cheat?
    Matpat:ok

  • @Aaleg
    @Aaleg 2 роки тому +4965

    Jesus I’m gonna need a college mathematics degree to decide if a green man with a smiley face cheated in a block game

  • @xenodrax9320
    @xenodrax9320 2 роки тому +3774

    Me: Oh, cool, a video breaking down Dream’s speedrun, I was wondering about that
    MatPat: ‘So basically, here’s how the universe works in a mathematical sense’

    • @astrangeorange4225
      @astrangeorange4225 2 роки тому +43

      Lol yeah, he did end up admitting to cheating tho

    • @macc7858
      @macc7858 2 роки тому +11

      @@astrangeorange4225 *accidentally but I don’t believe him

    • @hikari1690
      @hikari1690 2 роки тому +10

      From this theory and analysis I propose a new theory. Minecraft is the universe.
      But hey, it's just a theory

    • @az1202
      @az1202 2 роки тому +3

      @@macc7858 have you watched Karl’s video on it? If not watch it, it’s pretty interesting

    • @macc7858
      @macc7858 2 роки тому +3

      @@az1202 nah who’s karl

  • @darkforge15
    @darkforge15 Рік тому +2

    "Divorce and margarine are completely unrelated..."
    Not a sentence I expected to hear today.

  • @gachapusheenlover
    @gachapusheenlover 2 роки тому +1

    0:14 mr beast just chilling

  • @pgainor6465
    @pgainor6465 3 роки тому +1587

    Speedrun Team: says dream cheated
    Dream: says he didn't cheat
    MatPat: *says that the debate is impossible to determine while also making everyone involved in minecraft speedrunning question their life choices*
    Edit: The people arguing in the replies need to get laid.

    • @crackerjack6013
      @crackerjack6013 3 роки тому +46

      True king

    • @Lonewolf-zr4ym
      @Lonewolf-zr4ym 3 роки тому +52

      I didn't even know there was minecraft speedruns. I just thought minecraft was a game where the boys hop on and talk about life problems

    • @TruthShaIIWin
      @TruthShaIIWin 3 роки тому +5

      *M A T H*

    • @EdricCoconut
      @EdricCoconut 3 роки тому +3

      Basically

    • @TimeattackGD
      @TimeattackGD 3 роки тому +29

      @@glass4786 no they arent. also im pretty sure matpat didnt want to choose a side because hes afraid of getting backlash which kinda sucks

  • @Jablinnn
    @Jablinnn 3 роки тому +3508

    Everyone: Soo did he fake his speed runs?
    MatPat: Yesn’t

  • @live_destin-3408
    @live_destin-3408 Місяць тому +3

    Wait that was THREE years ago???!!!*

  • @cookiesaretasty429
    @cookiesaretasty429 2 роки тому +2

    This aged badly

  • @anthonycarrillo5076
    @anthonycarrillo5076 3 роки тому +2418

    Everyone: so did dream cheat?
    MatPat: The real cheaters are the friends we made along the way

    • @ThomasBaxter
      @ThomasBaxter 3 роки тому +46

      *Looks at spouse*: cries

    • @tumblingartist
      @tumblingartist 3 роки тому +13

      _maybe the real speedruns were the... oh wait we have no clue if it actually was real_ :/

    • @xmsm
      @xmsm 3 роки тому +3

      ua-cam.com/video/U8WgahYPiGw/v-deo.html

    • @cleangreenearthforall9405
      @cleangreenearthforall9405 3 роки тому +2

      AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @dynamic6813
      @dynamic6813 3 роки тому +2

      Extended version ua-cam.com/video/XuU7prBDY94/v-deo.html

  • @adamyusuf1805
    @adamyusuf1805 3 роки тому +406

    Everyone: So? Did he cheat or not?
    MatPat: Idk lol but skillshare

  • @lasagna1lover
    @lasagna1lover 9 місяців тому +1

    HE CALLED THE JUICE WRLD BAD BOY VIDEO MEDIOCRE????!?!?!??!!

  • @Kayla-Aphrodite-cabin
    @Kayla-Aphrodite-cabin 3 місяці тому +1

    “That thing is always a war zone” - MatPat on Dsmp stuff

  • @notroy9376
    @notroy9376 3 роки тому +681

    Everyone: so... did he cheat?
    Matpat: I'm not very good at gardening

    • @heshohesho1860
      @heshohesho1860 3 роки тому +4

      ua-cam.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/v-deo.html.

    • @liseegeskov8769
      @liseegeskov8769 3 роки тому +15

      @@heshohesho1860 pls be a Rick Roll pls be a Rick roll pls be a Rick roll pls Im tired of these self promoting bots

    • @Heavy-W-Guy
      @Heavy-W-Guy 3 роки тому +1

      @@liseegeskov8769 its really how it be out here no cap

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 3 роки тому +7

      @@liseegeskov8769 it’s not, it’s a link to a video by Karl Jobst, a guy known for exposing fake speed runs.

    • @fetusgriffin9897
      @fetusgriffin9897 3 роки тому +1

      @@heshohesho1860 shut

  • @therealindoraptor7944
    @therealindoraptor7944 3 роки тому +2187

    “Did dream cheat?”
    “Why is speedrun? Where is cheat?
    That’s how I figured out Mario was a sociopath”

    • @Anonimos1999
      @Anonimos1999 3 роки тому +32

      if you want to know look at karl jobst video, he tells the truth about it (which is yes, he actually did cheat, and i’m saying this a dream’s fan)

    • @connerdehn5908
      @connerdehn5908 3 роки тому +5

      @@Anonimos1999 this kid is a bot

    • @jansenncuber8009
      @jansenncuber8009 3 роки тому +12

      @@Anonimos1999 Same. I wanted to think that Dream didn't cheat, and I've been a fan of his content for a long time, but he for sure cheated.

    • @Anonimos1999
      @Anonimos1999 3 роки тому +9

      @@jansenncuber8009 exactly, it was sooo disappointing to find out but that’s the truth and everyone should know

    • @omppuplayz
      @omppuplayz 3 роки тому +5

      Why are we still talking about this? I would see the point of talking about this anymore if it was like a #1 or #2 record like...
      I dont get the point please inform me

  • @biblicallybased
    @biblicallybased 2 роки тому +1

    I love how this was a great way to make use of A Level Statistics early. Also, got the same stats for your first question, @The Game Theorists: 17.19% and 2.84%

  • @Glorman69
    @Glorman69 2 роки тому +27

    Just wondering why Dream "accidentally" had sophisticated speedrun cheats

  • @a.a.animatoranimatinganani7555
    @a.a.animatoranimatinganani7555 3 роки тому +1391

    "War is based on piglin trades"
    -Sun Tzu's Art of Speedruns

    • @discosheep2946
      @discosheep2946 3 роки тому +7

      All warfare is based

    • @lemonpoppy0108
      @lemonpoppy0108 3 роки тому +21

      Subscribe to technoblade

    • @papabasar
      @papabasar 3 роки тому +8

      sun_tzugamerr2 has earned the Achievement *[War Pigs]*

    • @myronclarke4339
      @myronclarke4339 3 роки тому +1

      Peak of humor
      -Some random on the internet

    • @BoyusGoyus
      @BoyusGoyus 3 роки тому +3

      UNLESS ITS A FARM!

  • @R0Kdarock
    @R0Kdarock Рік тому +2

    actually playing after nether update makes it harder to speedrun because it added bastions so the chances are low to find a fotress compered to previous seedruns

  • @Erik.Culescu
    @Erik.Culescu Рік тому +2

    This didn’t aged well

  • @fatnuts5085
    @fatnuts5085 3 роки тому +1691

    “Did Dream cheat?”
    “To determine that we must go back to the first ever speedrun and examine it very closely”

    • @lowreslireas
      @lowreslireas 3 роки тому +23

      read that with an old man History Channel narrator voice

    • @stefanandrejevic2570
      @stefanandrejevic2570 3 роки тому +12

      We first must include the 420 sponsors that will take up 90% of the video and then put a bunch of ads

    • @joycefurphy2312
      @joycefurphy2312 3 роки тому

      819 likes and only 2 comments excluding mine :/

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 3 роки тому

      Nice comment! You are BRILLIANT, 1 3 :)

    • @JK_5076
      @JK_5076 3 роки тому

      How did you get so many likes? I only get about 1 on the day a vid is posted

  • @curtis9894
    @curtis9894 3 роки тому +590

    MatPat should be a politician the way he dodged the question at hand in this videos

    • @Koreancatholic
      @Koreancatholic 3 роки тому +25

      @@UwU-235 and yet he can't give a definite answer to the question the video is based around.

    • @troubleddreamer553
      @troubleddreamer553 3 роки тому +4

      @@Koreancatholic keep crying lol

    • @Koreancatholic
      @Koreancatholic 3 роки тому +29

      @@troubleddreamer553 you had to really put some brain power into that comment huh? You even edited it.

    • @parantezadam6293
      @parantezadam6293 3 роки тому +2

      @@Koreancatholic imagine making fun of someone for EDITING?

    • @Koreancatholic
      @Koreancatholic 3 роки тому +23

      @@parantezadam6293 it's a three word phrase.

  • @michaelburris8014
    @michaelburris8014 Рік тому +4

    10 times for seven times is way more likely than 100 times for 60 times.

  • @theatlasarcade2012
    @theatlasarcade2012 Рік тому +5

    He had me until the part where he didn't answer the question

  • @The-Soothsayer
    @The-Soothsayer 3 роки тому +375

    Matpat: DID DREAM CHEAT?
    20 Mins later
    Matpat: AND THAT'S WHY THERE SHOULDN'T BE A 1.16 SPEEDRUNNING CATEGORY

  • @SuperMekki666
    @SuperMekki666 3 роки тому +1918

    Everyone: Did Dream cheat?
    Mat: is speedrunning even worth it?

    • @Koreancatholic
      @Koreancatholic 3 роки тому +83

      Doesn't sway one side in order to avoid hate but also refuses you answer the simple question of whether Dream cheated or not. Clickbait.

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 3 роки тому +15

      More like "Is speedrunning a game where the best time depends mostly on RNG even worth it?"

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 3 роки тому +38

      @@Koreancatholic Because the answer to the question is not simple. The only honest answer is "Only Dream truly knows", because just because an event is unlikely, even very unlikely, it doesn't mean that it can't happen.

    • @Koreancatholic
      @Koreancatholic 3 роки тому +26

      @@mementomori5580 okay, keep denying the truth then.

    • @mementomori5580
      @mementomori5580 3 роки тому +44

      @@Koreancatholic I am simply stating a fact. Nobody other then Dream can actually say wether or not he Cheated. All the Speedrunning Team did was decide that the luck displayed in Dreams Speedruns are over the threshold they find "acceptable", which is why they are labeling that he cheated. But they themselves don't actually know, and we will never know because Dream will, most likely, never say that he cheated and so we're at a stalemate and you either "play the game" and pick a side to believe or you just put the whole thing away and acknowledge that nobody can actually tell and they the status quo is simply "The Team decided he cheated" and that's it.

  • @Ashxty_
    @Ashxty_ Рік тому +3

    Everyone: So did Dream cheat?
    MatPat: Yesn’t

  • @Scorchinghell
    @Scorchinghell Рік тому +1

    Here’s a Minecraft theory
    If blue Ice and lave come into contact with each other to create basalt wouldn’t that mean the nether once had vegetation LONG before the player firsts spawns in. And was lost due to immense heat

  • @sebastianwillows
    @sebastianwillows 3 роки тому +392

    So... did he cheat?
    Matpat: "Divorce and Margarine are unrelated"

    • @zomazoma3609
      @zomazoma3609 3 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/v-deo.html........

    • @user-gp6zr8bx2m
      @user-gp6zr8bx2m 3 роки тому +1

      Oh thank god there isn’t an essay of why matpat “sucks” finally a breather

  • @kaorutoki1688
    @kaorutoki1688 3 роки тому +554

    "Skip intro to save frames"
    "No, I don't think I will."

    • @thatonerainbows947
      @thatonerainbows947 3 роки тому +4

      I understood that reference

    • @Ir1sss_
      @Ir1sss_ 3 роки тому +3

      @BECOMING BTS and you don’t even have any vids

  • @dantebonetespinosa4510
    @dantebonetespinosa4510 2 роки тому +5

    He wasn't cheating he just took normal pills

    • @frikpro1021
      @frikpro1021 2 роки тому

      that what da point of dis mask is

  • @Psilomuscimol
    @Psilomuscimol 5 місяців тому +2

    You probably wont see this, as this video is 2 years old. But theres a plant that can go without water for years and become green again and grow when you finally water it. Its called a forever fern or a resurrection plant or something.

    • @katie-iq9xw
      @katie-iq9xw 5 місяців тому

      thats pretty cool !!

  • @bucca2
    @bucca2 3 роки тому +1391

    For anyone who wants to know the verdict: Matt doesn’t actually say whether or not he thinks Dream cheated or not. He just explains some of the statistics and math behind it.

    • @chubbybunny6975
      @chubbybunny6975 3 роки тому +154

      Meanwhile, mathematicians proved that he DID actually cheat

    • @dootdootclaire
      @dootdootclaire 3 роки тому +14

      @@chubbybunny6975 wait what? I haven’t watched the video yet but what about the professor that said he didn’t?

    • @TruthShaIIWin
      @TruthShaIIWin 3 роки тому +3

      *M A T H*

    • @ashleyberkowitz8772
      @ashleyberkowitz8772 3 роки тому +65

      @@dootdootclaire someone effectively debunked that but I’m not sure if they were right

    • @toad7395
      @toad7395 3 роки тому +50

      theres no real way to be a hundred percent sure about it, although the odds are not in his favor

  • @adelarios1458
    @adelarios1458 3 роки тому +1900

    Everyone: “Did Dream cheat?”
    MatPat: AND thats why Kanye Wests REAL name is actually Kanye EAST

    • @sekoseko9728
      @sekoseko9728 3 роки тому +3

      ua-cam.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/v-deo.html....

    • @randomanimations8488
      @randomanimations8488 3 роки тому +2

      A joke?
      I laugh

    • @gurentgc3546
      @gurentgc3546 3 роки тому +19

      Exactly, what with that conclusion? He didn’t answer his own questions...

    • @dabendan79
      @dabendan79 3 роки тому +15

      you finnally got it on spot
      Video title: you are Speedrunning Minecraft is the wrong way
      MatPat conclusion: Thats why Bart Simpson created fortnite
      im sick and tired on this matpat cancer

    • @desmondruhling
      @desmondruhling 3 роки тому +6

      @@sekoseko9728 nobody likes you

  • @Evil_EmperorOfficial
    @Evil_EmperorOfficial Рік тому +2

    Remember kids, it's not cheating, it just using custom rules!

  • @golg_rander6770
    @golg_rander6770 2 роки тому +10

    8:28
    They both are most likely because if you flip a coin on heads it has a higher chance of landing on heads then tails.

    • @jonathanyesbest4616
      @jonathanyesbest4616 Рік тому +1

      I mean uhh that doesn’t make sense tho..? 7 out of 10 is just MUCH more likely than 60 out of 100 :|

    • @gradyjones7017
      @gradyjones7017 4 місяці тому

      No, there isn’t

  • @gg-zi9vk
    @gg-zi9vk 3 роки тому +943

    "So did he cheat on his speedrun?"
    "Well, learning is fun."

    • @taralamlam1122
      @taralamlam1122 3 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/v-deo.html..

    • @sherripotasky2440
      @sherripotasky2440 3 роки тому +9

      tara lamlam11 stop advertising stuff can you just delete your comment and be a good person for once

    • @tuxedosteve9556
      @tuxedosteve9556 3 роки тому +6

      @Harry Styles your comment made me cry

    • @sherripotasky2440
      @sherripotasky2440 3 роки тому +1

      Coltyn Stone-Lamontagne Thank you:)

    • @sherripotasky2440
      @sherripotasky2440 3 роки тому +2

      Harry Styles nobody cares delete your comment for Muffins sake

  • @Eldudiogrande
    @Eldudiogrande Рік тому +5

    I wish matpat stayed true to his values and actually used maths to come to the correct conclusion

    • @frvppe4385
      @frvppe4385 Рік тому +3

      he outright says why it would’ve been impossible to do so but ok

    • @myxi-ig7kx
      @myxi-ig7kx 4 місяці тому

      it's not impossible he just isn't on the same level as a legit mathematician like Stand-up Maths @@frvppe4385

  • @dicksoutfordjmusicman9335
    @dicksoutfordjmusicman9335 Рік тому +3

    i know this is layered in a lot of drama and controversy but some of the comments are genuinely funny like-

  • @SonicHaXD
    @SonicHaXD 3 роки тому +16166

    Umm Mat, great video and all. But you didn't really give an answer XD

  • @Beppojoe
    @Beppojoe 3 роки тому +6809

    I never realized you were in Julian Smith's video until seeing that clip again 11:27

  • @HKMisawesome
    @HKMisawesome Рік тому +4

    These videos are the only thing that teach me something and make me enjoy it in the process.

  • @120id9
    @120id9 Рік тому +3

    Ok, but hear me out. Any chance the correlation between margarine consumption and divorce rate is actually because both are tied to household income?

  • @katherinasteiner1463
    @katherinasteiner1463 2 роки тому +2933

    everyone: "did he cheat??"
    matpat: "well he ran at a fast speed for sure"

    • @Truckingmama1
      @Truckingmama1 Рік тому +3

      so true ha hahaha 😆

    • @shrek7172
      @shrek7172 Рік тому +1

      😆

    • @AzguardMike
      @AzguardMike Рік тому +9

      Everyone "did he cheat?"
      Mat "i dunno, lemme see what everyone else thinks first then answer with their replies"

  • @kaspikey9553
    @kaspikey9553 3 роки тому +2237

    Everyone: "So did Dream Cheat?"
    Matpat: SO ANYWAYS LET'S TALK ABOUT MONKEYS ON A TYPEWRITER GOING BRRRRRRRRRR"

    • @alias_crouton2316
      @alias_crouton2316 3 роки тому +5

      @Isaiah Byrd I was just about to say that.

    • @fkhan2006
      @fkhan2006 3 роки тому +7

      lol this comment is so dumb. matpat can't just make a 3 second video saying "yes" or "no" to the question in the title. He's here to educate us and present the evidence in an entertaining way. don't make dumb comments just cuz you're a butthurt dream stan (don't see any other reason as to why you're seem so angry)

    • @kaspikey9553
      @kaspikey9553 3 роки тому +3

      @@fkhan2006 Yikes buddy didn't realize you had no idea what a joke was

    • @fkhan2006
      @fkhan2006 3 роки тому +3

      @@kaspikey9553 jokes are used all the time to share an opinion. tell me, do you think that MatPat clickbaited us with that title? tell me, are you angry about the title? because that's what i'm getting from your joke. also jokes are supposed to make you laugh. didn't even smile

    • @kaspikey9553
      @kaspikey9553 3 роки тому +6

      @@fkhan2006 r/iamverysmart

  • @enderform374
    @enderform374 Рік тому +1

    this aged well! also, try to re animate this vid with dreams actual face. this may not turn out so well.

  • @Aegon1
    @Aegon1 4 місяці тому +1

    Imagine getting a PhD in physics and using your intelligence for Minecraft probabilities
    What an honor

  • @saltymilk8133
    @saltymilk8133 3 роки тому +1408

    “Did dream cheat?”
    Matpat: well gravity exists and here’s my life story

    • @snek8907
      @snek8907 3 роки тому +1

      @Virtual Agent no is this a Rickroll?

    • @oz27spzz
      @oz27spzz 3 роки тому +13

      @@snek8907 I'll take the fall for everyone if it is.. wish me luck

    • @epicgamer-ny4fj
      @epicgamer-ny4fj 3 роки тому +1

      @@oz27spzz was it,

    • @oz27spzz
      @oz27spzz 3 роки тому +18

      @@epicgamer-ny4fj not even close.. it was just some random link.. everyone in the comments were randomly linked to that video

    • @JstormZx
      @JstormZx 3 роки тому

      @@oz27spzz literally *e v e r y o n e* and it's bloody annoying.

  • @termsypoo
    @termsypoo 3 роки тому +2505

    Title: Did Dream fake his speedrun?
    MatPat: lol idk

    • @purlfox
      @purlfox 3 роки тому +29

      Thank you for your comment lol my tiktok brain can't handle UA-cam lengthed content anymore 🤣🤣🤣

    • @geofferywilliams4867
      @geofferywilliams4867 3 роки тому +4

      Pretty Much

    • @PurpleLoverIgor
      @PurpleLoverIgor 3 роки тому

      11 hours ago :|

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 3 роки тому

      Good theory lol! You are THE BEST, ReadTheTerms :)

    • @clownfromclowntown
      @clownfromclowntown 3 роки тому +26

      @@purlfox so you just openly admitted to having a terrible attention span...god I hate my generation