Colin takes issue with the inconsistent coverage of Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant | THE HERD
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- Colin Cowherd examines the differences between how NBA media personnel frame coverage of Oklahoma City Thunder guard Russell Westbrook and of Golden State Warriors forward Kevin Durant.
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Colin takes issue with the inconsistent coverage of Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant | THE HERD
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The Herd with Colin Cowherd EXACTLY I agree Colin it’s a disloyal, unjustified, unfair, unreasonable society we live in professionally and privately!!! I don’t even like Russell we this is unfair biased and dead wrong! Russel should at least be the runner up if not the mvp PERIOD! Back to back seasons of averaging a triple double!!! Jus think about that!
Yes. media keeps changing the narrative to make sure the guy with the most interesting story gets the MVP it’s crazy
The Herd with Colin Cowherd you keep tryna make LeBron MVP a thing. And you're saying they're giving harden the edge because it's 'new'.. Hardens been the runner up for MVP the last 3 seasons. Let him have his moment. LeBron is either 1 or 2 when he's done. 1 more mvp doesn't affect him
Man anybody who actually watches basketball knows Drose's deserved it that year. I want to punch Colin in the face all the time when he tries put LeBron on this godly pedestal. He'd let LeBron go balls deep on his wife and daughter and would watch.
The Herd with Colin Cowherd Yep. I'm sold I don't get it either. If Westbrook didn't win it this year fine. He isn't in the top 5 nominated? Yea it seems a bit fishy. As far as I'm concerned now MVP doesn't have the same meaning to me anymore. I didn't notice it in my 20's but now yea... doesn't mean the same anymore. Only MVP's who I said to myself glad they won were Allen Iverson and Derrick Rose. The teams they were on would never win a Finals and at least they can have some acknowledgement of their skills and not be swept under the rug of obscurity.
11:15 There’s our slight mention of a marriage/ divorce
Stay in yo lane
It is really you LaVar? Such an honor to speak with you. You're an inspiration to all of us. Lavar for POTUS
LaVar Ball Stay in yo lane
All hail lavar king of the trolls
LaVar Ball This guy can't help himself, smh!
I'm just here for the divorce analogy
Brett B. Aren't we all?
won't be disappointed
Brett B. 🤣😂😁
Colin is in his bag LMAO
Legend Of Winning damn right
Yo what's up G
mans been waiting for this day
Low you a fan of Colin, LOL
The correct bag truth hurts
Colin "fax" Cowherd
Ahhaahahhaahhahah😂😂😂😂 baby goat Ahhahahahahahah you have a great name
Colin actually gave a sound argument based with lots of facts ... now u may disagree but u can’t dismiss what he just said there
He implied that Westbrook stat pads (which he does) and LeBron, who's had more triple doubles this season than his first 7 years in the league combined, isn't stat padding but is clearly the best choice for MVP.
Colin cherry picks. If harden had a defensive rating in the 300s he would smash him. LeBron was the worse defender this year by A LONG MILE.
When a 6 foot CP3 is a better defensive player than LeBron (6 foot 9, 250+ pounds), you can clearly see LeBron is expending all of his energy towards the stats that people actually look at. LeBron is literally the main reason the Cavs are going to finish 3rd/4th in the EAST. He doesn't care about defense because he won't have energy to put up amazing numbers on offense.
LeBron is also in the East which is quite considerably easier to put up elite offensive numbers in which he tends to focus all his energy for that side of the ball.
One of the very rare occasions that Colin actually makes valid points _and_ has valid proof to back it up. He's still no Chris "The GOAT" Broussard but I'll give him credit for this take.
He didn't make valid points. He was just trying to make a sneaky argument for giving Lebron the MVP over Harden. No matter who is having the best season, Lebron fanboys like Colin will make spurious arguments in order to argue for Lebron. He is trying to equate best player with MVP, which we all know is NOT what the MVP award was designed for! Harden deserved the MVP award last year and didn't get it. Colin is basically saying that if you robbed him of an MVP last year to give it to Westbrook, why not do it again this year and give the MVP award to Lebron? That's basically what he just said, but in a nicer way.
Kd gets so many media passes smh
Sam Bradford Bandwagon John Wall Well, maybe bc the fans already dislike him so they think why kick a guy who's down, no?
Sam Bradford Bandwagon John Wall Not with that game he didn’t he only played 29 minutes Green played 20 and it was their last game before the playoffs where they’ve already sealed the #2 seed for the playoffs
Annnnnnd there it is. The daily divorce analogy. 11:15
Tagnastic life saver
Colin is so right 😂. Voters last year were a joke
Alot of people are screaming "facts" but this guy is so biased on a daily basis ESPECIALLY when it comes to Russ. He not once gave Russ any praise. Thunder went on an 8 game winning streak he said nothing. Thunder dropped 148 points on LeBron and the Cavs, said he didn't see the game. But you brought up how the new look Cavs beat them though. Just admit it, YOU DON'T LIKE WESTBROOK! Russ aint perfect, yes he makes some dumb decisions but you acknowledge that instead of the good stuff. Be honest with yourself Colin, YOU ARE MAD BECAUSE LEBRON DIDNT DO IT FIRST!
No, it's cuz the triple double don't mean anything. It didn't matter when Oscar did it, and it don't matter now
It matters to Colin that LeBron does it though, just saying lol
darkeye exactly
Colin, at I first thought you were a complete hater but you were right. My eyes have been opened to how completely overrated the triple-double is and easy it is to manipulate with stat padding.
KC1996LFC If you love sports then check out my upcoming channel god bless ua-cam.com/video/rL5ens6Rw6s/v-deo.html
KC1996LFC yah but when LeBron does it it's always cause it's "oh woe is LeBron, he has no one on his team that can play he has to do all this" 🧐🤨
My main issue with the triple-double is that someone with 32/9/8.5 (a hypothetical player I'm not quoting anyones stats) who plays solid defence and doesn't cherry pick is better than someone who goes 27/10/10 but juiced their numbers and won significantly less games
KC1996LFC are you refer to lebron czu he ain't playing no defense.
EddieRHS yah okay buddy. Lebrons finally trying or whatever this year. But he has stat padded to make his flaws not so obvious. YOU go watch his games against Boston and Orlando and the Spurs when he lost to them.
Straight Facts, I don’t understand how people disagree with stats.
Michael Jordan stat padded:
"The guys at the scorer's desk let me know what I need," Jordan said.
So, too, do the Bulls' assistant coaches.
"They keep reminding me when I get back to the huddle," Jordan said. "They say, 'You need three more of this. You need four more of that.'
fau2an100 I'm interested to know your source. I've never heard this, and I enjoy getting the facts over sports narratives.
Jordan Jenkins
Theres various articles you can read. Type in Michael Jordan stat pads.
In all honesty, anyone that puts up gaudy numbers stat pads.
Before Jordan won his first ring, he was known as just a scorer who doesnt make his teammates better.
Winning always changes the narratives, in every sport.
Kobe was never a leader nor did he care, but he won so that narrative changed.
Colin is my role model. He speaks nothing but Facts.
On no!
eric garcia LOL you gotta be joking
wow u have cancer for a role model then
Alot of people are screaming "facts" but this guy is so biased on a daily basis ESPECIALLY when it comes to Russ. He not once gave Russ any praise. Thunder went on an 8 game winning streak he said nothing. Thunder dropped 148 points on LeBron and the Cavs, said he didn't see the game. But you brought up how the new look Cavs beat them though. Just admit it, YOU DON'T LIKE WESTBROOK! Russ aint perfect, yes he makes some dumb decisions but you acknowledge that instead of the good stuff. Be honest with yourself Colin, YOU ARE MAD BECAUSE LEBRON DIDNT DO IT FIRST!
Daniel Roberts you know that's why Nazis became Nazis right? Blindly following a dude who really believed in what he was doing.
Colin's hate for Westbrook is stronger than Skip's hate for LeBron. At least Skip compliments LeBron every once in a while
Ice Cream Truck Colin literally said today that he would fight to defend Russell Westbrook on the fact that he plays hard every single possession. And that if you gave him a choice of a single Basketball ticket, he chews and OKC game to watch Russell Westbrook.
Proof: ua-cam.com/video/-NUpYO7yDvM/v-deo.html
Not true. Colin has credited Russell Westbrook numerous times for hustle and effort. Skip literally doesn’t credit lebron for anything and when he reaches a milestone all he says is “well why did it take so long”
Lol wrong. Clearly you don’t listen to skip enough, good for you, he is the biggest hater there is.
its the other way around
He has a point
Skraight Facts Homie #Respeck
Francis Anamege at least learn how to spell
Filimone Loumoli L
Filimone Loumoli idiot
KD is not better than LeBron. And he's not better than Steph Curry either.
B Person nah u gotta give him the edge over Steph cause he plays defense bro
Steph won a Ring before kd. Kd loses by 40 without steph
Bro Steph is not ahead of KD . KD a better scorer , rebounder , shot blocker and defender. Steph is the more important player cause he the playmaker, sets the pace and stretches the offense but don’t get it twisted .
Khalid Johnson Steph went to 2 finals without KD and has 2 MVPs, KD had to join Steph to get one.
KD went to the Finals in 2012 before the Curry bro . He had scoring titles before Steph who only did it once . He won regular season mvp before curry did . He won Finals mvp over curry in the finals . Curry had a better team before KD came and the offense is built around Curry but KD can do more
Rose was valuable, he was leading team full of scrubs to 62 wins
Lonzo Ball MVP. End of discussion.
Tagnastic neva loss
HUUUUGE W
Tagnastic deeznuts mvp. End of discussion
Tagnastic you don’t understand how disrespectful this is... ANDRE INGRAM IS LEADING THE LEAD IN BLOCKS PER GAME, he’s averaging 20 and is a rookie, Andre Ingram is MVP and it’s not close
Tagnastic bruh
Listening to the 6:34 analogy just straight up killed me 😆😆😆 Colin is the GOAT lol
I hope the Thunder get the 7th seed and beat the Warriors in the first round.
What scenario would have to happen for them to be 6th? lol i don't want them to be 8th and meet rockets 1st round.
They will either be 8th, 6th, or 4th, nothing else. Thunder lose tonight they are 8th and play Rockets. If the Thunder win they will play the Jazz no matter what, but if Jazz win tonight Thunder would be 6th and play 3rd seed Jazz, and if the Jazz lose tonight the Thunder would go up to 4th and Jazz would be 5th.
Clonezone Gaming Actually the spurs are 6th and have the tiebreaker, the thunder can be 7th.
The Spurs do have the tiebreaker, and that is why the Thunder can only be 8th. Everyone has the tie-breaker over them except the Jazz, if the Thunder lose, everyone that is tied with them leaps them, they can only be 8th.
BootherJr they’re 4th sir
Colin is the most intelligent sports commentator.. its not even close.
Top players right now:
LeBron
Steph
KD - Harden
Westbrook
Anthony Davis
I want to see Colin list the point guards he'd rather start an NBA franchise with over Russell Westbrook
colin really snapped on this one. straight ETHER
Colin Is either baked or tired asf
a bit of both
where was he wrong?
Lebron is way more valuable than harden
Pressa we all know that. It ain't about being valuable anymore
facts
You know thats not how the nba MVP works
Best player on the best team, unless a narrative follows a specific player
Pressa up
It's unreal how much Westbrook has devalued what a triple double is. His teammates box out and let him get the rebound. It's their actual strategy. Russ is a supremely talented player. But in my opinion his triple-double statistics are completely hollow
David Alcantar so is lebrons. His team even gets out of the way so
Lebron gets rebounds.
The reason the big men box out (apart from the fact that it’s their job) is because it a scheme for Russel to start the fast break, it’s not all about him getting rebounds
because he is not your favorite player
If you actually watch OKC's games you would know that letting westbrook get the rebound allows the team to move everyone up faster and score easier. He also gets offensive rebounds and fights for it but haters only lool at the negatives.
Mert Kilic so you are saying the defensive rebounds are a negative to his triple doubles?
Finally someone got on durant
Yooooo im dead that he still mad about derrick rose mvp over lebron😂😂😂
As a GSW diehard fan, I have to admit, they are way too cocky and gonna get bounced in the first round. Who agrees?
Tagnastic NAH, YOU’LL BE FINE.
Tagnastic it’s ok just jump on the rockets bandwagon too when GS loses
LaVar Ball LMAO FAXXX
Yeah I don't know f I trust the thunder to get the job done it'll be a good series. Without curry they got a shot
kyle euman they won’t be playing the thunder
Colin you spoke to one voter and now you know the order the the mvp candidates will fall in? Ok bro
Damn classic line, "divorce me if you want"...lol
Last year Westbrook averaged a triple double since like November and kept it going since then and he had crazy 50 point games and won during the crunch time games last year with an amazing performance . Especially the 50pt triple double with the game winner in Denver that Eliminated them from the playoffs last year that sealed the mvp voting. This year he hasn’t had any high scoring games, 40 points at max and he actually had help. And ontop of all that he didn’t average a triple double until literally the 82nd game. Last year he was averaging it since like his 20th game
Colin’s always spot on
MVP= Most valuable player. Rockets without harden would probably still make the playoffs, take lebron from cavs and they arent even going to make the playoffs, so how is harden more valuable?
A miami heat team without lebron in 2013 would've also made the playoffs while a knicks team without Carmelo most likely wouldn't but lebron was still MVP.
I think the world "Valuable" is an inaccurate term for what the award represents. Lebron is unquestionably the most valuable player in the league at this moment for his team but the MVP is supposed to be given to the player whose having the best season while elevating his team to success, and that's clearly Harden as his stats are insane and his team is sitting at the top of the much tougher Western Conference. Lebron's stats are insane but his team is underachieving, being the 4th seed in a Conference that he should be able to steam roll.
Dem Chapped Lips ya hardens stats are insane. Lebron is literally better in every category instead of points and ft%. Lebron shoots 10% better from the field! Come on man, look at the facts
The award doesn't go to most valuable it goes to who has an amazing season with a feel good story and with a winning record.
+Adam Vanderwood Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that Harden's stats are still pretty damn good.
If only Colin spoke facts like this about everything and everyone, no bias for one player or team
This is the same guy that says a Russell Westbrook 3 point attempt is the worst shot attempt in all of basketball
its all about headlines... this year westbrook has paul george and carmelo. The rockets are on top of the western conference so its going to go to harden.
Danny C. As it should! So we need just need to atart being honest about MVP not being about 'best player' n start giving it to 'best headline'
Harden got cp3 so don't forget about that lol
cp3>george
cp3>anthony
and that is BY FAR
cp3 averaged more than george: rebounds, assists, shoots better fg%, 3pt%, ft%, has higher PER by far, more Win Shares, better record, better offensive rating, better defensive rating, better Box +/- etc etc
Ana Kovacevic cp3 is better than both players but all three are the same caliber so you still gotta look at it as Thunder got two allstars, Harden gained one
Ana Kovacevic yet somehow PG made the all star game over cp3
I completely agree w this argument, for the first time in a while Colin isn't sounding like an idiot lmao. But with that said Westbrook definitely deserved MVP last year and Harden undoubtedly deserves it this year. What Lebron is doing is sensational, but his team is 4th in the weaker conference. It's Hardens award to lose
Alright Colin you got me, I’m glad you are elaborating in this subject , love listening to you
Idk if anyone else remembers this but last year Nick Wright called this EXACTLY, said we'll all feel pretty stupid when Westbrook averages a triple double again this season and finishes 7th in MVP voting
Man this is the best segment ever. Straight truth.
Colín killed this segment.. 100% right on everything.
The way he wiggled the paper at the beginning 😂😂
Colin "NOTHING BUT FACTS" Cowherd
Colin makes a good point. It’s more impressive this year since it’s something that’s new/historical. People just saw triple double and voted for Westbrook.
I've never agreed more with Colin about the whole Westbrook MVP thing. It's amazing that he could actually average a triple double in back to back years.
Wow I couldn't agree with this more
OMG I still remember his episode LAST YEAR when he said something like it, Russ winning MVP because of his trip-dubs, will be stupid if he repeats the triple-double and won't get the MVP next (this) season.
FACTS
Alot of people are screaming "facts" but this guy is so biased on a daily basis ESPECIALLY when it comes to Russ. He not once gave Russ any praise. Thunder went on an 8 game winning streak he said nothing. Thunder dropped 148 points on LeBron and the Cavs, said he didn't see the game. But you brought up how the new look Cavs beat them though. Just admit it, YOU DON'T LIKE WESTBROOK! Russ aint perfect, yes he makes some dumb decisions but you acknowledge that instead of the good stuff. Be honest with yourself Colin, YOU ARE MAD BECAUSE LEBRON DIDNT DO IT FIRST!
The NBA pundits focus primarily on the story not the FACTS.
Main point he's missing is that Russell actually has a team behind him and can win without him now, last year, there's no way they make the playoff without him. this is the main reason why he isn't considered the Most Valuable Player.
To start there: I'm a Westbrook fan and I never considered him top3 for MVP the whole season. Here's why:
- OKC's team this year is arguably better than last year (which increases expectations and makes 48 wins not very impressive despite a tougher West; furthermore it makes his assist numbers less impressive despite Melo and PG shooting horrible at times)
- Westbrook is arguably less clutch than last year. He's still winning the Thunder games in the 4th but not in that ridiculous fashion with a lot of 3's and game winners
- Westbrook's overall game is still spectacular, but a little less than last year when his fastbreaks were 'get to the hole no matter what"
- Though Russ is clearly better on defense this season, he struggled from 3 and from the free throw line
- The competition this year is much better: 1) Harden is clearly better this season on both ends of the floor and - unlike last season when his team had far and away the better roster instead of just a little bit better this year - winning record is a big big argument for him this year. 2) LeBron has played all 82 games and despite a bad month he's been ridiculous throughout the other games. 3) Anthony Davis has taken over Kawhi's role as MVP candidate. 4) Kyrie, Durant, Giannis, DeRozan, Lillard, even Embiid and Curry if he had played more games - there's plenty of guys to compete with Russ. I'd take Westbrook over some of them regarding the whole season but some got a case to be level or ahead of Russ.
Could find another aspect or two but I think the point is clear. There's plenty of reasons for Russ to be voted where he is despite having 'the same stats' than last year at first glance. Not surprised a stat watcher like you who doesn't watch actual games gets confused, Colin
the realist speech I heard all year.
t's quite funny how Cowherd recently made the argument that we're hypocrites for liking Simmons so much who's good in the east vs not liking Lonzo who's in the west, yet here he is actually saying people are just bored for calling Harden, who's avg 30 points and leading Houston to 65-17 in the west the MVP are just '' bored '' for overlooking LeBron who's in avg 25 points in the east
"Oscar only did it once." Triple doubles weren't kept up with back then. Oscar was 1 rebound or 1 assist away from averaging 4 straight triple doubles. You think if it was a stat, he wouldn't have went for those extra things? Oscar is the king of the triple double.
Preach
I usually disagree with Colin’s takes but he spoke pure facts today
I think Collin forgot that Russ was averaging a triple double all season and yet James Harden was in the lead for MVP until the last month of the season. In the last 6 weeks or so of the season Russell shot 2 buzzer beating walk-off game winners, as well as 2 or 3 other game winning shots. Its because Russ averaged a triple double, was the league scoring champion, 2nd in assists, won 47 games on a team where Kyle Singler, Semaj Christon, and Norris Cole were getting significant minutes, AND was clutch doing it (one of the clutchest seasons ever). This year is different because he has better team mates, he's only scoring 25 a game, and they've been disappointing.
This is the first time I can ever say that I 100% agree with everything he said.
Hold the phone on D Rose, he earned that!
People woke up a smelled the coffee realizing that triple doubles don't equate to MVP at all.
I honestly didn't think Westbrook would even approach another triple dub season. If he gets it again, sure give him another MVP award. Sounds good to me haha
1. James
2. Westbrook
3. Harden
4. Davis
Westbrook outside Top 5? That is gonna look damn stupid 20 years from now.
Like people now can't believe Wilt AND Oscar lost out to Russell in 1960.
My favorite part of this bit is so subtle. “If Westbrook gets 16 rebounds tonight, and he WILL....”
He’s been so adamant that Westbrook is hunting stats and is a stat padder.
Best part? Westbrook did it as if 16 rebounds just happens for a point guard. What a coincidence that he got the most rebounds of his career the night he needed it for his average smh
KD can’t hoop and carry a team at a high level, never has, never will. He is a complimentary star. Makes good teams better but not bad teams good
I'm so sick of this thing with the media not telling the FULL STORY!!!!! Last year Westbrook also LED THE LEAGUE in scoring along with averaging a triple double with mediocre teammates.... That OKC roster was terrible when KD left.... This year OKC brought in Paul George & Melo which raised expectations of the TEAM & the TEAM underachieved heavily they clinched a playoff spot with 2 games left in the season & it was possible they wouldn't make it at all so how is that a top MVP candidate?
I hardly agree with Colin but he has it spot on this time. A triple double season will always be amazing.
Colin was on fire for these takes
You damn right about everything today!
Colin you are the media lmao. Secondly people are tired of lebron because of people like you, nick wright, Shannon sharpe, Brian windhorst etc. y’all make lebron unlikeable because y’all don’t hold him accountable. This is why people are moving on from him and y’all will continue to make it worse lmao
nellymacc91 Facts my G keep telling the truth about the LeBronsexuals in the mass media. Much respect SALUTE
Hold him accountable for what? Being great every year
Don't always agree with Colin but he's right on this. He's always been right on this.
Colin had to make an 11 minute segment to point out what SHOULD BE sound logic.
The triple doubles didn't win Russ the MVP. It was a 1A and 1B race till the end. What won Russ the MVP was all of his game heroics.
His Westbrook hate knows no bounds but he has a point. The media like the “shiny new toy” when it’s comes to the MVP. In fact all NBA fans do when it comes to basketball. We known this
very good points...
Colin speaking facts....heres another fact, Harden is leading his team to the best record in the tougher conference
well he also lead the league in scoring, I think that was the most impressive part about his season last year. It really wouldn't have been that impressive if he averaged a triple double if it's 15 pts 10 rb 10 ast. but the fact that he did that and scored so many points and also WON is why.
Colin jumps from Melo being a hall of famer to him being incompetent every day
Colin killed it with these segments. dang.
Last year Westbrook averaged a triple double after losing his best teammate. This year he repeated it (so not historic anymore, since he's already done it before), after getting two terrific teammates. And even though he can now play with PG and Melo, his team lost almost as many games as last year.
The media is asking why the media doesn't criticize KD? Sorry but the main media outlets are saying the same thing. This video even has a clip of another media outlet saying the same thing. The irony in this is why I love this social media NBA era.
You dont have to be in a major market anymore. Russell Westbrook is talked about EVERYDAY in OKC.
Westbrook crushes both off them in stats.
I agree 100%. The Brody with another MVP calliber year.
Colin was spot on with this.
I love KD, the GSW and Steph, but they should let KD go, find someone decent, a top 30 player and let SC run the show and go back to his MVP years where he was letting it rain from a mile away. God, that was a beautiful basketball style pre-KD.
The Herd.... best show on cable
100% agree
Facts
dang colin little kids who catch butterflies in traffic and get hit?? thats the best analogy you can come up with today?!?
wow.... Colin nailed this 1000%!!!
I just had to pinch myself to make sure this wasn’t a dream. I can’t even remember the last time Colin had a take this good.
100% truth in the second half of this segment.
Russ & James MVP's forever !!
Collin stretching facts by saying Lebron scores more efficient
KD just wants to play basketball fullstop. Everything else is a burden. Dude even refused to captain the all-star 😂😂
Colin didn't you get the memo, when you win the MVP the next year you get the auto snub.