I've had loads of LS3/5as (and still do) and also had some Tablettes. One thing of note is that LS3/5as tend to sound pretty much the same whatever the amplifier that drives them, perhaps something to do with the complex crossover. However my Tablettes sounded very different with different amplifiers - when driven by a tube amplifier they sounded similar and on a level with the LS3/5as, but with my solid state amplifier the Tablettes sounded very different and inferior.
I remember a friend having these in his bedroom. His gear was a Oracle mk 3 TT with Audionote silver cable through out. The arm was a SME V.. A Marantz CD 94, incredible player, and a Audio Innovations 500 valve integrated. I remember sitting in front of these and feeling I was going to fall into the sound stage it was that ridiculous. That was many years ago many many years ago.. Love this channel 🙂
Have owned the ProAc Tablette Ref 8 Signature and Anniversary's. Great speakers. Have you tried the AVI Neutrons? Recently picked up a pair. Even smaller than the Tablette but in many ways are better than the ProAc's which I was quite surprised.
I use my V3 Stirling Broadcast LS3/5as with their AB-2 bass extenders and they handle all types of music well, and notably the combination compares well, and is preferred by many, to Stirling Broadcasts LS3/6 speaker, which is a modern and very well reviewed Spendor-like speaker (the Stirling Broadcast V3 LS3/5a, AB-2 and LS3/6 were all designed by Derek Hughes, son of Spencer and who ran Spendor and whose first speaker design was the gorgeous Spendor SP2/2).
Owned original Tablettes, Tablette III, Tablette 50, Tablette 50 Signature. Each progressively more satisfying. Bought early Rogers 15 ohm LS/5a's.. expensive. Excellant for female voices and imaging.. if you stayed in the nearfield sweet spot. Like to work and move about when listening.. so sold the Rogers and bought Tablette 2000's. Slight loss of crystal clarity, but larger sound field and deeper bass. Small Tabbies have 4 1/2" mid/woofer, LS3/5a 110mm = 4.331"and 2000 has 6 1/2". The 2000 is about 1/3 price of LS3/5a's. Tablette 2000 Sig ($600-$800) would be a good choice.. high quality larger fuller sound for about 1/2 price of the LS. They are All excellant. Amps used : Marantz 8b and Sansui Eight Deluxe. You might consider adding sound absorbant panels, drapes, etc.. along with your mic upgrade. Thanks Kevin, for posting another thought provoking video.
Hi thank you for the always very valuable review If you say that they sound good near field and not so much in midfield then the reason could be walls reflections You have to record with two mics in the near field listening spot to render that good sensation
I have listening experience on both speaker, Pro AC sound tight and punchy, LS3/5 sound soften and gentle... (Unfortunately both powered by different amplifier)
You should talk more about colouration especially in different acoustic musical instruments between the two loudspeakers sound reproduction and not only limited to highs, mid and bass.
Love your videos. 👍Never heard Ls 35a before but I love my Proac studio 110 awesome speakers but I would admit my bros Spendor Sp1 are sweeter on brass and vocal with more tonal quality off the different instruments. Proacs on the other hand are more powerful dynamic and accurate and can cope better with faster paced music. Proac rated at 33HZ and that's were they start rolling off from and drop down to 23HZ when tested with tone generator. Nothing coming out of the speakers at 22HZ but at 23HZ it was like having a very large wagon park next to the house and vibrating the light fittings you can feel it putting sound pressure waves in the room. Serious grunt.
23 hz...lol...i have both speakers frequency charts on my PC somewhere...the LS3/5A i had & they had almost no bass by 60hz max bud...their tiny brick sized speakers...23hz ?!?!
Thank you for such a concise but intelligent discussion. I’m on a quasi-quixotic quest to find the best speakers for listening to Sandy Denny in the under £3000 range
@@dittonworks Your advice & that of viewers would be greatly appreciated. Somehow Proac, Harbeth, permutations of the LS3/5 seem the right places to start, but would love advice, recommendations
@@skipklauber1162 the Falcon Acoustics LS3/5a is what I would go for, if you want something amazing in near field or smaller room, vintage and wondrous sound. Harbeth P3esr isn’t as “alive” sounding but will grant you hours of enjoyment. ProAc will be more modern sounding than the Falcons and possibly a better all rounder (I’m taking about new tabletts) but I think the Falcon LS3/5a is phenomenal.. Side note.. All new Falcons are Gold Badge apart from MoFi edition.
@@dittonworks I loved the point you made about certain speakers working best at different times of day/night. Little different than certain music somehow sounding best under the same circumstances. John Martyn, Michael Chapman, Roy Harper all made discs I’ve found “sound” optimal during the hour before and during sunrise.
@Ditton Works Thanks for the review. I have similar impressions of ProAc. Wonderful acoustics. Now I have a MA Monitor One, they have the same speakers with ProAc, but a little less volume, and it seemed to me that their sound is more natural, not as bright as ProAc. I am also interested in your opinion on these two models MA One and Tablette. Share your impressions.
Oh forgot to add there was a similar speaker by Audioplan at that time but twice the price, I think, called the Kontrapunkt. I have vague memories of it being small, thin and very deep. It was the best imaging speaker I ever heard then. Has anyone heard of this???
@@dittonworks I used to have a pair of Mirage M1 and currently I have both Altec Lancing 19 and Signature Tablette 50, of all three I enjoy the ProAc much more, beautiful female vocal, nice sound stage, and reasonable bass performance. Thanks for your quick reply and a nice review.
I’ve owned the Tablette 10 which is the current Proac model and really enjoyed them, this week I took possession of Falcon LS3/5a gold edition. The bass on the Falcons is much better and warmer I find than the Tabs, which are also a closed box. I don’t feel I’m missing any bass on the Falcons. The Falcons win out over imaging over the Proac, superb speakers. Any acoustic instruments are superb on the Falcons, I’ve played everything from Blue Note Jazz to AC/DC and enjoyed it all.
Hello! I’ve been thinking about buying Falcons for a while now. Do you need a subwoofer to fully enjoy variety of music like rock, blues, classical ? What amp do you use to power them ? Thanks
@@sylvio1980 in a small room I don’t feel the need for a sub. Deep bass doesn’t bother me. I’m using a Naim 250 dr power amp, lots of people use valves with the Falcons, I’ve not tried it as I’m happy with Naim. I don’t think these would work well in a large room.
@@tonyhodgkinson4586 appreciate your responding. I think is gonna be perfect for my bedroom set up. I’ve always wanted a pair of LS3’s and it seems like Falcons are the way to go.
@@sylvio1980 I too have the Falcons, they are outstanding on my Vinnie Rossi L2i SE. I am using a Rel G2 subwoofer as my room is on the larger size. Good luck and Happy listening!
Hi Alex. Not really mate. Ls3/5a are more lively sounding, imaging is impeccable and they sound very “live” love them. The ProAc’s have a warmth to the bass missing from the Ls3/5a and a little extra depth. The soundstage is good but the BBC’s little gems out class the Tab’s in that department. For a small speaker the ProAc’s are incredible.. amazing little things.
I bought Mr. Tyler's tablett 10 signature speakers 2 years ago and they are wonderful.
This makes me miss my ProAc Supertablettes
I've had loads of LS3/5as (and still do) and also had some Tablettes. One thing of note is that LS3/5as tend to sound pretty much the same whatever the amplifier that drives them, perhaps something to do with the complex crossover. However my Tablettes sounded very different with different amplifiers - when driven by a tube amplifier they sounded similar and on a level with the LS3/5as, but with my solid state amplifier the Tablettes sounded very different and inferior.
Just started watching your channel. Love the presentation style and detailed information.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching 👍
I used to own a pair of Rogers ls3/5a 15 ohm version and they sounded wonderful
I remember a friend having these in his bedroom. His gear was a Oracle mk 3 TT with Audionote silver cable through out. The arm was a SME V.. A Marantz CD 94, incredible player, and a Audio Innovations 500 valve integrated. I remember sitting in front of these and feeling I was going to fall into the sound stage it was that ridiculous. That was many years ago many many years ago.. Love this channel 🙂
Have owned the ProAc Tablette Ref 8 Signature and Anniversary's. Great speakers. Have you tried the AVI Neutrons? Recently picked up a pair. Even smaller than the Tablette but in many ways are better than the ProAc's which I was quite surprised.
LS4/5a is the best!!!....from Indonesia.
I use my V3 Stirling Broadcast LS3/5as with their AB-2 bass extenders and they handle all types of music well, and notably the combination compares well, and is preferred by many, to Stirling Broadcasts LS3/6 speaker, which is a modern and very well reviewed Spendor-like speaker (the Stirling Broadcast V3 LS3/5a, AB-2 and LS3/6 were all designed by Derek Hughes, son of Spencer and who ran Spendor and whose first speaker design was the gorgeous Spendor SP2/2).
I know Derek
Owned original Tablettes, Tablette III, Tablette 50, Tablette 50 Signature. Each progressively more satisfying. Bought early Rogers 15 ohm LS/5a's.. expensive. Excellant for female voices and imaging.. if you stayed in the nearfield sweet spot. Like to work and move about when listening.. so sold the Rogers and bought Tablette 2000's. Slight loss of crystal clarity, but larger sound field and deeper bass. Small Tabbies have 4 1/2" mid/woofer, LS3/5a 110mm = 4.331"and 2000 has 6 1/2". The 2000 is about 1/3 price of LS3/5a's. Tablette 2000 Sig ($600-$800) would be a good choice.. high quality larger fuller sound for about 1/2 price of the LS. They are All excellant.
Amps used : Marantz 8b and Sansui Eight Deluxe.
You might consider adding sound absorbant panels, drapes, etc.. along with your mic upgrade. Thanks Kevin, for posting another thought provoking video.
Yes, acoustic panels are my next upgrade.
I really like ProAc speakers but the latest addition to my set up (Falcon ls3/5a) are absolutely fantastic
Great video as always, I hope you managed to get some recording equipment sorted out
Hi thank you for the always very valuable review If you say that they sound good near field and not so much in midfield then the reason could be walls reflections You have to record with two mics in the near field listening spot to render that good sensation
I have listening experience on both speaker, Pro AC sound tight and punchy, LS3/5 sound soften and gentle... (Unfortunately both powered by different amplifier)
You should talk more about colouration especially in different acoustic musical instruments between the two loudspeakers sound reproduction and not only limited to highs, mid and bass.
Love your videos. 👍Never heard Ls 35a before but I love my Proac studio 110 awesome speakers but I would admit my bros
Spendor Sp1 are sweeter on brass and vocal with more tonal quality off the different instruments.
Proacs on the other hand are more powerful dynamic and accurate and can cope better with faster paced music.
Proac rated at 33HZ and that's were they start rolling off from and drop down to 23HZ when tested with tone generator. Nothing coming out of the speakers at 22HZ but at 23HZ it was like having a very large wagon park next to the house and vibrating the light fittings you can feel it putting sound pressure waves in the room. Serious grunt.
I’m a big fan of both ProAc and Spendor..
LS3/5a have a magic sound that’s very infectious.
I sold the Kef ls3/5a and bought Falcon’s, very good 👌
Any suggestions for a good amplifier for the ProAcs ??
Any suggestions for an amplifier for the ProAcs ? Just bought them and they are sitting idle.
23 hz...lol...i have both speakers frequency charts on my PC somewhere...the LS3/5A i had & they had almost no bass by 60hz max bud...their tiny brick sized speakers...23hz ?!?!
Linn made one the Kans and naim it was a floor standing one ibl hear all they all sound the same great mids and top end 👍
RIP Mr Tyler, a true legend in loudspeaker designs. I have fond memories of the old Studio 1 which he designed years ago.
Thank you for such a concise but intelligent discussion. I’m on a quasi-quixotic quest to find the best speakers for listening to Sandy Denny in the under £3000 range
That’s a great budget.. many fantastic speakers to choose from even under that price point
@@dittonworks Your advice & that of viewers would be greatly appreciated. Somehow Proac, Harbeth, permutations of the LS3/5 seem the right places to start, but would love advice, recommendations
@@skipklauber1162 the Falcon Acoustics LS3/5a is what I would go for, if you want something amazing in near field or smaller room, vintage and wondrous sound.
Harbeth P3esr isn’t as “alive” sounding but will grant you hours of enjoyment.
ProAc will be more modern sounding than the Falcons and possibly a better all rounder (I’m taking about new tabletts) but I think the Falcon LS3/5a is phenomenal..
Side note..
All new Falcons are Gold Badge apart from MoFi edition.
@@dittonworks I loved the point you made about certain speakers working best at different times of day/night. Little different than certain music somehow sounding best under the same circumstances. John Martyn, Michael Chapman, Roy Harper all made discs I’ve found “sound” optimal during the hour before and during sunrise.
@Tom Leander You do bring up a good point. I should have based my quest in a single song. Genesis Hall?
@Ditton Works
Thanks for the review. I have similar impressions of ProAc. Wonderful acoustics. Now I have a MA Monitor One, they have the same speakers with ProAc, but a little less volume, and it seemed to me that their sound is more natural, not as bright as ProAc. I am also interested in your opinion on these two models MA One and Tablette. Share your impressions.
I did a review on them a few months ago, great little speakers..
ua-cam.com/video/9A0I5pES2is/v-deo.html
I think you have Proac Reference 2's (although possible Studio 100s), as well, right? If so, how do those compare to the Tablettes that you have here?
I had Studio 100’s. Totally regret selling them,
Oh forgot to add there was a similar speaker by Audioplan at that time but twice the price, I think, called the Kontrapunkt. I have vague memories of it being small, thin and very deep. It was the best imaging speaker I ever heard then. Has anyone heard of this???
Hi have you ever considered reviewing the Falcon imf 100 loudspeakers.
Yes but I’d have to buy them.. unfortunately not feasible
Great Vid as normal 👍👍
Thanks for interesting video
Hi there, cheers for the vid. Out of curiosity, what are you pairing them with, what amp are you using?
Quad Artera/Meridian 557
I own a pair of ProAc Tablette signature 50, wonder how they compare to yours sound quality wise?
My money would be on yours sounding bigger and more dynamic 👌
@@dittonworks I used to have a pair of Mirage M1 and currently I have both Altec Lancing 19 and Signature Tablette 50, of all three I enjoy the ProAc much more, beautiful female vocal, nice sound stage, and reasonable bass performance. Thanks for your quick reply and a nice review.
Best Sounding speakers I've ever heard are the ProAc K6 Signature's - cant afford them though they're $27,000 Canadian🤥
Holy smokes 😮$27,000
Thx
I’ve owned the Tablette 10 which is the current Proac model and really enjoyed them, this week I took possession of Falcon LS3/5a gold edition. The bass on the Falcons is much better and warmer I find than the Tabs, which are also a closed box. I don’t feel I’m missing any bass on the Falcons. The Falcons win out over imaging over the Proac, superb speakers. Any acoustic instruments are superb on the Falcons, I’ve played everything from Blue Note Jazz to AC/DC and enjoyed it all.
I’ve reviewed the Falcons a few months ago, absolutely loved them.
I will be comparing them to my Kef’s soon.
Glad you’ve bought a pair, I love them.
Hello! I’ve been thinking about buying Falcons for a while now. Do you need a subwoofer to fully enjoy variety of music like rock, blues, classical ? What amp do you use to power them ? Thanks
@@sylvio1980 in a small room I don’t feel the need for a sub. Deep bass doesn’t bother me. I’m using a Naim 250 dr power amp, lots of people use valves with the Falcons, I’ve not tried it as I’m happy with Naim. I don’t think these would work well in a large room.
@@tonyhodgkinson4586 appreciate your responding. I think is gonna be perfect for my bedroom set up. I’ve always wanted a pair of LS3’s and it seems like Falcons are the way to go.
@@sylvio1980 I too have the Falcons, they are outstanding on my Vinnie Rossi L2i SE. I am using a Rel G2 subwoofer as my room is on the larger size. Good luck and Happy listening!
how would the Tablets compare with my Rega RS1's?
I’ve never tried them tbh.. the ProAc are extremely good though
To record some sound clips, can't you put them in a smaller room?
Hi Alex. Not really mate.
Ls3/5a are more lively sounding, imaging is impeccable and they sound very “live” love them.
The ProAc’s have a warmth to the bass missing from the Ls3/5a and a little extra depth. The soundstage is good but the BBC’s little gems out class the Tab’s in that department.
For a small speaker the ProAc’s are incredible.. amazing little things.
Seas woofer & Scanspeak tweeter on Tablettes
Yep 👍 typed it on the video
Would falcon acoustics lone you a pair.
Hello, what is your favourite monitor speakers?
Probably LS3/5a
Pro Ac for me...
proac tablette or kef 3/5a is better ?
Impossible to answer. Very different “similar” speakers
I have proac tablette one🙂thanks
Proac have a cheap drivers and very cheap details of crossover. It's junk completely!
I think you need to read up on how to use apostrophes m8.
Will do “Mate” 😉
why would anyone buy KEF drivers in another speaker - just buy the best speakers LS50's
Interesting you say that as my LS3/5a’s are actually Kef built under license from the BBC.
LS50’s are a great modern sounding speaker.