Why The Darksaber Is WAY More Dangerous Than Any Other Lightsaber
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“you can’t pick lightsaber colors”
Samuel L. Jackson- “Hold my beer”
This video might not even exist if it weren't for that demand lol
"can you just give me Jedi Knight Revan's purple lightsaber so I can pretend like it was my idea?" - Sammy L.
@@christofthedead he wanted to stand out in the big battles more , but hey any one who wants to rock Revans look is okay in my book
@@MoriShep And then they wrote an entire novel about mace windu and gave an actual backstory for that purple lightsaber 😂
More like "hold my Kyber Crystal"
Someone’s probably said this already, but the Darksaber has essentially become the Excalibur of Star Wars.
@Fun terra Dysonic no
@Fun terra Dysonic yesn't
I think you ment Caliburn, the sword in the stone, the sword of selection.
Excalibur is the sword from the lady in the lake.
More like the elder wand, have to win it by force from previous owner 🤷♂️
@Fun terra Dysonic This is highly offensive! Highly offensive Fun terra, not fun at all!! 😉😜
You didn't mention that the Dark Saber may be sentient. The Armorer notes that Din Djarin was not fighting against his enemy, but against the Saber itself. This can only mean the Dark Saber is "alive" if it is resisting its wielder.
I’m not sure if it’s quite sentient thins like this in most fantasy described like that tend to have an instinctive will or at most very basic emotions that the wielder can feel but it’s not really capable of thought
Ehh, that could just be a more flashy way of describing the relationship between a lightsaber and who wields it. I’ve heard it said that your personal saber will feel different from another persons
All sabers are technically somewhat sentient when Vader bled his crystal it fought back and showed him a vision
It fighting back doesn't really mean it has thought
Like Thor’s predicament he needs to harmonise with the weapon. Or he isn’t worth. And therefore it becomes unmanageable
I think a lightsaber could EVENTUALLY heat up Beskar, but because the Darksaber is so thin and concentrated it heats it up millions of times quicker
Millions of times faster is a big number lol
It's a unique crystal, compared to late Republic times. Maybe the crystals of his time could have been stronger. (Closer to the surface or how old crystals are)
Kyle REN's crystal was broken and needed to vent.
Is beskar magicu like Vibranium so you could get massive kinetic trauma but walk it off?
Yeah cause you'd probably never be in a situation where you sit there holding a lightsaber against Beskar
I agree. I think because it's concentrated to a point or edge that it would heat it up faster.
There is something to consider about the form and colors of the Darksaber: Tarre Vizsla made it to Mandalorian symbolism. The first lightsabers ever seen were Obi-Wan's and Anakin's in Episode IV. Both are cylindrical and produce a blue pole or rod of plasma. This is what a Jedi Guardian's lightsaber looks like. Mandalorians think differently. In Legends, black is their color of justice, all their officially produced weapons have a lot of straight lines and right angles, and they have long experience with metal blades that are curved like the Darksaber is. Also it is 100% a weapon. There is no knob for length or training settings. You use it to cut something or someone or you don't use it at all.
To paraphrase the sayings of an old master "A practal weapon for a more brutal, yet civilized age".
@@georgewhaley8951 Oh yeah. That sword was built to do one thing, and one thing only: Kill Sith. Either during The Old Republic/Great Sith Wars era or the New Sith Wars Era. Pre Vizsla said Old Republic but Fenn Rau said only 1000 years. The Old Republic is more like 4000.
But the story of the Darksaber would match what is seen in the SWTOR "Deceived" Trailer. And the Mandalorian along side Malgus was apparently named Shae Vizsla so...
Either way, Tarre Vizsla was a Jedi and a Mandalorian and then Ruled as The Mandalore for both a significant length of time and was respected enough to get a massive statue of him built on Mandalore. The only leader we know of to have that honor. And he apparently gave the Vizslas enough legitimacy that they derive their right to rule from him. That is all we know for certain.
He was probably the Jedi Lord of the Mandalorian sector and used the official office of Mandalore to unite the people against the Sith like Alfred the Great did in England.
I get, and love the lore of the darksaber, but I'm sorry, the execution of it looks almost childish. (Flame on, but I stand by it)
It kinda worked as an animated weapon, but on film it's just not right. The color and white highlights are all good (and good connection about the black/justice thing, I hadn't thought of it that way)
The blade being "edged" or flattened....ehhhh, to me doesn't really jive with Mando practicality. Who was it talking to jania about it being a 360 edge? Not to mention that you smack someone w the flat, you'll still dismember. Does that mean that strikes on the flat side hit harder than edge on edge? Plus it just doesn't jive visually with ther general vibe. (And yeah, it's supposed to come from a different view, but still)
And even granting the idea of a Mando viewpoint, I'm sorry, but the hilt looks like it was designed by a kid. I get that a flatter cross section makes sense for grip orientation. Even though it's a frigging Saber which doesn't need it. I can even dig the hand guard in theory. But the overall design looks like something 10yr old me would have come up w.
Here's a thumbnail fic of how IMHO it should look.
The blade sprang out with a weird modulated hiss. It seemed like a hole cut in the universe. A moving negative of reality, with small white arcs of energy crackling up and down it's length.
The hilt was a thick lump in the hand. Over engineered to be reliable it was heavier than a normal saber, and had a beskar ring around the hilt for deflection.
@@blackc1479 the words of a true aruetii.
@@Stronghand-yw1lk why? Cause I don't think they executed the concept well?
A few critiques.
1.) When telling the history of the Darksaber in Star Wars Rebels, they make a point to say that Tar Visla was the FIRST Mandalorian Jedi, not only. This indicates that other Mandalorians have been inducted into the Jedi after him, even if we don't know who they are.
2.) Given the Darksabers' color, as well as it's ability to damage Beskar, and the fact that it reacts to its' wielders emotions. I am led to believe that the crystal inside the Darksaber is NOT a kyber crystal, as no other kyber crystal has ever displayed any of these abilities.
Could it be a type of crystal similar to a kyber crystal but reacts differently?
@@kinkedwinter0312 likley but its all speculatory
Who knows, maybe it's a Kryat Dragon Pearl
Kryat Dragon Pearls are canon. In legends, they make a more powerful blade, likely a result of the refinement process the base kyber crystals undergo within the stomach of a kryat dragon, and they also can produce a black blade. But nothing in legend or canon suggests they are affected by emotion, and nothing in canon says they're usable as a lightsaber crystal at all. But that could change.
@@WhitcherJames exactly. For all we know, Disney can choose to make it so that the Pearl reacts more to a user's emotions do to it having spent time within a living thing, and thus has a unique connection to the Force
I suspect the reason the Darksaber is so powerful is that it uses a black Krayt Dragon Pearl as a focus. In Legends continuity, Krayt Dragon Pearls of any color can be used to create a lightsaber, but doing so is MUCH more difficult than using any other kind of focusing crystal. This difficulty in its creation, as well as its yielding a MUCH more powerful blade, would have appealed to a Mandalorian like Tarre Vizla. The black color of the blade comes from the Krayt Dragon Pearl that was used being black in color - and Krayt Dragon Pearls DO come in black.
The color is explained in legends, it uses a one of a kind force imbued obsidian crystal from a sith relic.
The fact you know this makes you a homosexual
Your going off Legends where a glass Crystal can be used as in Jason solos girlfriends frist saber it's the shape that makes it cut more effectively true useing a roller to cut butter then use a knife check the difference
I used the krayt dragon pearl to make my lightsaber in KOTOR.
Interesting theory, especially as the Tuskens dug out a crystal from the one killed by Mando. Maybe that's what Grogu uses to build his own?
The darksaber draws its power from its user. Strengthening under strong emotions like fear, anger, and sadness.
That’s why in Boba Fett it’s mentioned your energy and focus can’t fight the darksaber or it will feel extremely heavy. If you allow it to channel your energy it will become extremely powerful and because it’s creator channeled his force energy into it it can actually predict attacks and danger.
That’s how the death watch leader was able to fight Maul. It’s also why the darksaber is a symbol of a leaders crown. Because it takes a true leader to listen and act on what they are being taught from those who they are trying to lead.
What I want to see is Tar Veesla’s journey to become the first Mandalorian Jedi, and the conception of the Dark Saber.
That will be a dope story!
Jedi: ok we're going to do some light sparring to get you used to the saber
Tar: ok
Spar turns into fight
Jedi: I said light sparring!
Tar: that was light
Jedi:.....sigh
take me money mate
Better hope disney wouldn’t fuck it up
I hope this gets examined in The Mandalorian Saga. I wouldn't be surprised by the Darksaber being unique as a lightsaber: The fact that it was created and fashioned by the ONLY EVER Mandalorian Jedi, a member of 2 groups whose respective religions are inextricably linked to their weaponry, but in almost opposing creeds, there's bound to be a secret power to it...after all, it was fashioned just before the formation of The Republic...so, it's birth took place during Jedi and Sith wars throughout the galaxy, along w/ several Mandalorian civil wars. The power and origin of The Darksaber is going to be one of the best plot points in the entire saga of The Mandalorian.
There is a good chance there has been more Mando Jedi. As in the show they make a point of saying the FIRST. Not only
@@Cruncho Some people seem to think "first" means "first and only so far"?
Grogu will be the ruler of Mandalore soon :)
@@rubysultra LMAO
@@rubysultra grogu got killed by kylo lmao
It would be kinda cool to see sith make the dark sabers crystal bleed then having a red and black dark Saber
Yeah, but we don't even have an idea how the thing was made nor if it even uses a Kyber crystal at all! Remember, not all lightsabers use the same type of crystal.
Yeah definitely was a missed opportunity. I too thought it would have been amazing had Maul made the Darksaber's Kyber Crystal bleed?
Agreed. Would look cool & also be intimidating to others.
I was actually daydreaming of Ashoka or any other highly skilled Jedi getting a chance to wield it & how it'd look. ... Hopefully we'll actually see such a thing in future years 🤞. ... Never know
then a jedi gets it and purifies it. purified red sabers go white so what color/shade would that even be? would it just be black again or would it be a brighter white glow?
Oooo snap bruh that would be siick
What if the dark Saber crystal is somehow treated with Beskar, kind of like a flame aura quartz in real life
Interesting theory...wonder if kyber crystals were ever on any of the moons of Mandalor, perhaps a unique crystal that grew on one of the ice moons along with the Beskar ore? Hmmm...kind of like a hybrid. Would make them super strong AND doubly dangerous. Also might explain the inherent war like nature of both the original Mandalorian species as well as their humanoid foundlings who eventually became the Mandalorians we know of from the Old Republic era to the current era.
Have the same thought. Darksaber can have components made from Beskar and this can explain its greater power - can be treated with much greater energy and still be in good shape, due to Beskar durability.
And this simply fits - its Mandalorian Tradition to make weapons from Beskar, and Tarre Vizsla was Mandalorian first, Jedi later.
Could be crystallized beskar?
That could be a good idea maybe the dark sabers crystal is some sort of beskar crystal
Ive heard the dark saber gets stronger with emotion. In the hands of maul its more formidable due to his rage...
As a trained swordsman myself, this makes me think of all the "who would win in Katana vs Longsword" questions and videos out there. The answer is always the same....the better swordsman wins.
Those debates always assume they have equal skill, which doesn't exist in reality, but that isn't really the point of the debate.
@@daboss640 Yeah, the point of the debate is usually a bunch of edgelords wanna cry "Why do people think katanas are cooler than longswords?!" but in a way that makes their complaints seem almost reasonable.
@@godspeedhero3671 I think it's because dudes who make it their culture. I mean Japan, there's way too many people taking Japan in as the holy God of everything
@@iaintdoinallat Sure, but I don't see how hyper irrationality makes sense as a response. If people wanna geek out over a sword style they like, just shake your head and move on. Seems pointless to start a debate over it.
@@godspeedhero3671 Met dudes who are really into Japan. Online, offline whatever and I'm pretty sick it. It has something to do with their personality being annoying
I’ve noticed that while the dark saber did heat up the spear, it didn’t seem to do anything to Mando’s gauntlet. I’m thinking the spear isn’t really 100% beskar like we’ve been told. Or maybe it’s just thinner than mando’s armor so it heats faster.
You're right, the spear being thinner would heat up quicker
The bracers definitely aren't thicker. A spear pole is on average 2.5cm (1") in diameter. They could be the same diameter, but the sheer weight of any metal at 2.5cm at all points would be far too heavy for any mobile humanoid troop. You're going to be lifting both the spear and bracers, some moves relying purely on forearm strength alone. Not to mention Mandalorian troops are specialists in aerial, jetpack based warfare. So Beskar armour would need to be light. Also, consider the biomechanical impact thick plates around all your major joints would have on your movements. You would loose flexibility and mobility purely from that. Any armour designed to fight Jedi, who are legendarily mobile, lacking mobility is an easy way to earn a quick death.
Using purely historical examples of steel plate, because they're the only factual mathematical source, plate armour around the bracers is between 1mm - 1.5mm thick with the thickest examples pushing up to 2.5mm. Again remember to note that Mandalorians need to be agile.
It is also worth mentioning the rarity and therefore cost of Beskar at the time and even during the war with the republic. You'd want to be as economical as possible in both scenarios, albeit for different reasons.
I would make the educated guess that Beskar relies on deflection of strikes rather than pure thickness for stopping an impact, so I would say that logically you'd want to be in the 1mm - 1.5mm range, for an economical, good, light set of bracers. Either the blade didn't impact the bracers in the same way as the spear, on the flat of the blade due to deflection and so the heat was less concentrated, or it was purely a design discrepancy on the studio due to continuity. Either explanation is plausible, but they live in a world of space magic and future tech so, take the words of a random nerd on the internet with a pinch of salt.
or its the blade that is more concentrated than a lightsaber
@@Andre_Thomasson well it still didn’t heat mando’s gauntlet so it probably comes down to the spear being thinner
@@AMorphicTool if I was to take a guess using some of the information already given about beskar, I'd say that it is so strong against attacks due to a kind of vibrational displacement kind of like vibranium in the MCU. Wouldn't surprise me given Jon Favreau works on both of them 🤷♂️
I really hope we get some sort of supplemental material on Tarre Villa. I always speculated that his blade was black in color to showcase his sense of individualism as he was able to identify as both a Jedi and Mandalorian. Both groups probably found this odd but ironically they both seemed to hold Vizla in high regard given what became of his weapon.
Ahsoka's lightsabers display the absolute opposite of that. White for one who cannot identify as a Jedi or a Sith
Please do more on the dark saber it’s history is massive and almost unknown
I mean the history is out there . We’ve seen it a lot
It was crafted by Tarr Visla... The first ever Mandalorian to be inducted into the Jedi Order. (In the current canon anyway, info is from the Rebels series.
7:05 that behind the back block by Pap Paplpatine was dope, makes me want rewatch some clone war fights
I just speculated when I first saw it in the Clone Wars cartoons that the darksaber was giving off such an intense light that it was actually emitting largely ultraviolet light (thus rendering it black to human eyes), weakening only somewhat into visible light at its edges. This would mean a creature sensitive to ultraviolet light would see the darksaber as rather intensely bright indeed
Way cooler than it just having a black crystal or whatever lol
In addition to all that was said, it could also be the shape of the blade itself. Unlike lightsabers used by the jedi and sith, this lightsaber is shaped like an actual sword and has the sharp cutting edge associated with it. This would make the blade not just more powerful, but rather more sharper than any of its jedi and sith counterparts.
Who else here freaked tf out when the darksaber made its first official live action debut in the mandalorian season finale?!? Who else here loves Dave's ability to carry on the star wars legacy from Lucas. All of Filloni's star wars: the clone wars, Rebels, the mandalorian, book of boba fett, ashoka, the bad batch, etc. will all come together to create one giant cohesive story, better than what we received in the old legends books imo. I think Dave's version of Heir to the Empire will blow star wars out of space and be like nothing we've ever seen b4. I really can't wait for that day to come!
As a big fan of both the Marvel films and Star wars I'm expecting an Avengers Endgame type scenario with all the new series having a big tie up movie
@@Zefside_Gunn I really hope so. Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett are the only reason I started caring about Star Wars canon again after the Sequel Trilogy.
stfu about “who else”. just about everybody else, thats who
@@Zefside_Gunn the sequels
I like how in the cartoons the darksaber looks like it changes shape when it's swung fast, sorta like how a fan or propeller looks circular when it's spinning. They should've kept that effect in live action.
There is another material that is resistant to sabers and blasters in addition to beskar. My understanding, albeit a trifle limited on this particular subject, is that beskar is an alloy forged by Mandalorians and not an element unto itself. Supposedly the Mandalorian armorers were the only ones who knew the secret to forging it which is why it's so rare. Ever since the empire laid waste to their homeworld, people believe the secret to its forging to be lost. Again, my understanding on this subject is limited so I may have it all wrong. This next part, however, I'm more knowledgeable about... the OTHER material that can withstand light sabers is 'phrik'. Palpatine's lightsaber was trimmed with it. The Jensaarai (for those who don't know, they are another sect of force wielders who follow a rather odd hybrid of both Jedi and Sith teachings.) forged entire suits of armor covered in it. Jedi who used light-pikes would often cover the staff segment of the pike with phrik so it couldn't be cut during a duel. Phrik was also extremely rare and expensive.
A crystal that could resist the lightsaber was called Cortosis it was first found on a mining colony ref. in the Star Wars Jedi Outcast game.
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You look like end of season 5 heisenburg
Are you referring to Cortosis ore? It was used entirely by Sith for armor specifically to protect against lightsabers but no good against blaster bolts or blunt force weapons.
Always love seeing content on mandalore and the darksaber 🖤🖤🖤
from my speculation, the heating up part is purely cinematic purpose
the saber did not heat up the armor AT ALL during any scene. armor pieces are much thinner than the pole of spear, offer more surface area for saber to touch - physically its much more likely to heat up to the point of red glow
while the sabers' properties remain mysterious, the shape of the blade actually offers less surface area for heating things up than regular lightsaber
i don't think heat is one of the advantages it could possibly has
if anything, i think the shape of the saber is highly over rated, the shape itself doesn't offer any real advantage in combat (or even cutting power)
and more of symbolizing the ideology of the creator
the only know properties are
1. it is more sensitive to the user's emotion, often produce electricity on heightened emotion (might have affinity to imbue force powers to the blade, especially force lightning as it also draws from strong emotion; in this case, anger)
2. it seems to have stronger magnetic pull to other lightsaber, resulting in saber lock (helps with defending against other lightsaber wielders)
Maul also believed it to be cursed...which is why he stoped using it after he lost to Palpatine and his brother died during the fight...he still had it but stoped using it.
And if it wasn't before, Maul cursed it (further)
@@dawnkladerman598 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I always wondered this myself glad you dis a video on it
Makes me want to take another look at the Broadsabers since if the shape plays any role in how the Dark Saber interacted with Beskar Broadsaber may be the better way to breech armor while the traditional design is better for blaster control
I have a theory that visla created the darksaber with a beskar infused crystal and a beskar hilt. if you didn't notice during the duel with kanan and sabine,the darksaber takes a side swipe and falls to the ground with a little heat coming off of it, that would normally cut a chunk out of a normal hilt but the darksaber tanks it.
I mean a Mandalorian know how durable their own special aloy is then the saber's original wielder must know how to deal with it but of course the application and refinement improved over time this the saber isn't dealing as much damage as it used to be
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If you think about it, Tarre Visla was a Jedi/Mandalorian. He must have known how strong Beskar is against Lightsabers and must have also had enemy mandalorians gunning for them.
The Darksaber, in this case, would have possibly been meant as an Anti-Beskar Weapon, crafted and curated specifically by Tarre Visla to be used against enemies of his house or himself in general.
It is interesting that the Dark Saber has that shape, since it is still a Light Saber and all of it cuts. So if you swung it with the "flat" side out, wouldn't it just make a much, much wider cut?
My first thought was that it’s slower cutting that way, but it’s an energy blade, so that shouldn’t be the case. However, I think it has advantages and disadvantages with it’s shape. It is proven to be more powerful than an ordinary lightsaber, but that’s when using the thin, normal side. I would be curious if cutting the other way makes it more blunt or not as powerful
I feel like just as lightsabers clash with each other as if they were solid, the darksaber would likely still get a fair bit of air resistance akin to a normal sword
@@specialed171 the flat side is probably better for blocking something like laser bullets or blocking a saber
Its so powerful because it was forged by a mandalorian jedi to, both, cut through beskar and throw force lightning. It's called a "foil" in literature, i think...isn't it? Lovin' every second of it myself. Ever since I saw the original in theaters circa 1977. I was 7..
Thanks F and F for keeping my childhood rolling. Because of you, my childhood seems to be the only thing that can keep up with me.
Another Awesome Vid. Stupendous! Live the Dark saber!
I love how Din just stumbled his way into becoming a Mandalore
Wonderful assessment!! Mandalorians are my favorite ❤ in the SWs Universe.
The Dark Sabers powered by a Kratt Dragon Pearl... Change my mind...
That's fascinating! I need go back and watch those episodes again. From what I know about the MCU, Favreaux doesn't do small details by accident. If, indeed, the dark saber can cause bascar to glow red with heat while other lightsabers cannot, then you may very well be right!
Such music underneath your voice further immerses one into the narration.
The darksaber has a more edged blade , it has more cutting force than a normal lightsaber
This is likely reason why the darksaber has more of a chance to cut beskar than anything else; all of the heat and energy of the blade is being directed in a very thin space along the spear, as opposed to when other lightsabers are being held against it and the energy is more likely to spread out more evenly.
They are laser blades. Shape has no effect. The pearl or power source of the Darksaber is what makes it unique. Not the fucking blade
Lightsaber blades don't have massive so, not really
@@Kontakt13 Au contraire, my friend. The shape is especially important if they are made of lasers (or super heated plasma) because the same principle applies with blow torches and actual lasers. If the jet of gas that is coming out the end of a blow torch isn’t fine enough, it heats up stuff-sure, but it doesn’t cut. Same thing goes with lasers-the more narrow the beam of light, at relative temperatures, the faster you’ll cut through things.
Now, of course, if we aren’t dealing with a traditional kyber crystal, and are indeed dealing with a different type of energy source, then yes-it stands to reason that it’s shape may be irrelevant. That said, however, we are both approaching this argument with the assumption that it is the same kind of power source and that it has the same kind of output as a normal lightsaber.
Now, to add to our reasoning as to why shape would matter, it is cannon that training sabers cannot cut through people’s limbs because of two factors: the energy out put has been dampened and the shape of the blade has been altered. A normal lightsaber has a thinner, round blade shape; while a training one has a thicker, more bat like shaped blade. This makes it easier to see, easier to parry, and less deadly. They don’t swap out crystals to achieve this feat, they simple adjust the output of the beam emitter and change the focus of the crystal’s lenses. Now most training sabers are permanently set this way, but someone who understands what’s going on inside the blade could ramp up the power and focus the blade to make it deadly once more. In fact, I think we’ve seen that be part of the plot of something in the past, but I can’t recall. I’m sure that someone can help me figure that one out.
So, to recap-yes we are arguing over whether or not a magic blade that breaks the laws of physics could be affected by certain properties, but in order to do so without descending into a big ol’ d*ck waiving competition, like a bunch of children at the play ground, we have to make certain assumptions about the matter at hand. As such, we are assuming that at least some of our knowledge of how thermodynamics works will apply here. We are assuming that the darksaber has a similar power source as most lightsabers do, and we are also assuming that the only difference between them is the shape of the blade. (Yes we know they are different colors, but no evidence has been shown that, in their universe, that color affects cutting power; although, here-in our world, color is usually a sign of temperature difference, but meh.) Therefore, if the only thing that is different is the shape, then the same principle that we observe in our world probably applies; if something is thinner and has a more clearly defined cutting edge, it will likely cut through things easier. Also, if the heat and energy is more directed, more focused, it will take less time to heat up the beskar than a wider, less focused beam of energy would.
@@petersavage7904 I’ll assume you meant to say mass, rather than massive, but see my other reply about how wider beams of light, aka lasers, are less efficient and effective at cutting metal than thinner, more focused beams. We are not concerned with mass so much as the beam’s ability to cut based on how narrowly it can go between the molecules of a particular metal. Thinner does, in this case, equal better because it gets in between the spaces of those molecules better than wider ones…
Perhaps the the Dark Saber crystal was found on Mandalore. Perhaps the crystal has veins of Beskar running through it.(kinda like gold running through Quartz crystals)This might cause the dark blade color, as well as it’s effect against pure Beskar. It could match the harmonic tone of Beskar, causing it to melt easily.
The edits are fantastic
very cool theory and video!
Prior to the Darksaber the Mando's made use of vibroblade, perhaps they are connected. Perhaps the technologies cross in the darksaber & with a high vibrational frequency in the field that holds the plasma in causes greater resistance friction than the stable oscillations of the regular lightsabers.
Theirs a sabre In SWOTOR that has red outlining but in the middle it’s black called chaos crystal
Does the era of Tar Vizla and the swtor story line up? I know swtor takes place a cple hundred yrs after kotor, which takes place thousands of years b4 the og trilogy. But do we know around which era Vizla created the darksaber?? I always imagined it to be before Darth Bane/ start of the high republic era, but I'm not 100% sure on that
I think the very fact that since the Dark Saber has actual weight to it's blade. That makes it stronger because you have more leverage in a saber clash with someone & can easily over power them. And since it attracts the blades of other light sabers it's a lot easier to get in a saber clash with someone & a lot harder for them to get out of it
I would agree that the glowing beskar indicates there's more energy in the dark sabre than other weapons, although everything from stone to glass to metal glows the same colour at the same high temperature - doesn't necessarily mean it can defeat beskar, although I'd be interested if that's the direction they went because it can't be ruled out either.
Love the video and explanation. The dark Saber should be like Excalibur. I just hope that Hollywood doesn't go too much farther off the original storyline.
They haven't.
Hmm. A few ideas while watching this video. I wonder if the dark Saber is made with beskar? Would be interesting to see it be a mixture of the jedi and mandalorian cultures. This led to another idea what if the creator found a way to merge beskar with the kyber crystal to create something new entirely? Just some thoughts hope we get more info into creation at some point.
I mean the handle is made of beskar...so maybe the crystal is also somewhat beskar, yeah.
I'm just going to mention that the World Between Worlds color scheme very much resembles the Darksaber... as you said, it makes the Force a literal edge. Kind of neat and would be really cool if they brought back Ezra in the next season.
I would think that since it was made by a member of mandalorian background that it was made with inside knowledge of beskar and therefore the energy omitting frequency or something similar would therefore be brought into mind during its creation. Thus making it technically stronger, to exploit some hitherto unknown weakness of beskar
I just took it to mean that the dark saber blade is sharper and therefore more focused into a smaller spot which is why it was able to get the beskar glowing
This is why mandalorians are my favorite faction in starwars, the sith are basically the definition of evil in the universe and the Jedi are good but are still flawed, but the mandalorian creed is more pure in the sense its not really about good and bad its about being a warrior, being loyal to your clan and following the creed and the darkblade really shows that
I agree. A shorter version of the power difference is to follow the Beskar spear in The Mandalorian series. Asoka has quite a few saber on spear moments and it doesn't even glow warm. As you pointed out in the season 1 end, it was getting near melting when the Beskar spear was holding back the dark saber.
Now that we’ve seen so much more of this saber in B.o.B... it makes sense this blade is as unique as its creator, being both Jedi and Mandelorian. ( Grogu to likely be the second)
Those unique qualities could certainly be interpreted as “more powerful”... eager to see what’s next!
This lightsaber was stolen from your Jedi Temple by my ancestors during the fall of the Old Republic since then many Jedi die upon its blade repair yourself to join them.
Repair yourself?
You mean PREPARE yourself lmao
Well,... if you consider the relation of light sabers to lasers, the differing visible colors of various blades seems logical. There are other radiant wave forms that cannot be seen with the naked eye, like Infrared, or ultraviolet. It is possible, then, that the crystal used to create the "Dark" blade is resonating at such a frequency that the body of the blade seems to be a vacuum devoid of light. This could also explain the "Corona effect" given off by the blade. As the wave intensity dissipates, after being emited by the blade, it would slow to a visible state giving the ghostly outline.
So it is possible that the unique skill of a force weilding, disciplined, Mandolorian warrior could channel appropriate energy to "super-charge" a khyber crystal to exhibit such incredible qualities. Creating a legendary version of an iconic weapon.
So maybe it's actually an ultraviolet lightsabre?
Minor correction, he said the beskar got red hot and that it threatened to melt the metal, red hot is not close to melting, in fact it's the lowest hue a blacksmith can go and still be able to move the metal
Love that intro
What if the darksaber’s crystal was from mandatore. That would explain its ability to heat up and possibly cut through the mandalorian armor and spear.
I’m guessing another Jedi never wielded the dark saber after Tar Visla. I would think if someone did it would change color like Ahsoka’s did when “healing” the bleed crystals. But could the color also have something to do with the design AND Tar’s influence. Or else Darth Maul would’ve tried to bleed it. Hopefully we will get an explanation in the near future.
My first experience of green being my favorite color. Then I realized I have green eyes and the color green really make them pop.
by the time you mentioned dark saber in the introduction i already forgot what that video was gonna be about
Here's one I don't think you covered...
How did Darth Vader feel when he faced Luke using his old light saber in their conflict on Bespin?
Knowing at that point that Luke is his son, and knowing that Luke couldn't possibly have built his own light saber at that point, he had to have recognized it. What was he thinking when Luke pulled it and ignited it? What did he think as it fell into the chasm along with Luke's severed hand?
From the point of view of 'Sword Design' the darksabre would be an inferior weapon to the classic ones for one reason -
Having a defined edge means that you'd need to focus on your edge alignment as you would with a real sword, the advantage of the classic one which I always thought was quite brilliant and you get to see Kylo Ren very clumsily take advantage of is that there's no edge
The darksabre would be a step back and if I remember rightly it was supposed to be a very old design
Idk the blade is still all plasma and lightsabers don't actually cut through things as they pretty much burn through them so I'm not sure blade alinement would be all that nessasary
@@Doof_8103 i was about to say the same, it may be a different shape but its still a lightsaber
It could be a possibility, but I don't think the concept and physics of a normal sword apply to the dark saber since the saber is plasma. I think his design is meant to show more of the classic look of a sword rather than a more common saber. And it makes sense because when you consider the similarities Mandalorians and medieval knights share when it comes to armor, sword-wise, etc ; (its alot). And last but not least, Tarre Vizsla is known to be the first and last Mandalorian-Jedi; it is very likely that he wanted to put his cultural touch on his saber.
The edge concentrates the plasma into a smaller space making it burn hotter and more energetically, that is the whole point of it; that is why the darksaber is stronger than normal lightsabers and can cut through things (or at least heat them up) that normal lightsabers cannot. It can still cut with the dull back of the blade and the sides though, the heat and energy is simply concentrated at its edge.
While your argument is kinda invalid for reasons others have stated, there's another factor to take into consideration. Length. In a sword fight, the dude with the longer sword has a massive advantage.
Awesome you hit the time
Another thing to consider is, that according to the Mandalorian the dark saber has to be won in battle, and not given away. I didn't hear mention of that in the video. I'm guessing also that since it has to be won in battle it will always keep going to the stronger warrior. Just my thoughts on the subject. Loved the video.
light saber v light saber, with nothing else going on the Darksaber might be stronger then most. but the saber is not the scary thing about Jedi and Sith. you'll notice Luke strolling thru battle bots with a green blade, and Darth V walked thru rebel troops with a red one. i dont think that a/the Darksaber would have slowed them much unless the wielder was on the same scale they are
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Something to think about…
When Din Jarin was fighting Guidian, the besskar spear heated up but not the gauntlets. This could be due to how the beskar is tempered for a weapon( that we find out in “BOOK OF BOBA”) BesKar is not suitable for or it’s just not meant to be fashioned in to weapons. With that, Mandolorian blacksmiths would never make a weapon thus any weapon would be made by a non Mandolorian. We learned in the first episode of “ THE MANDOLORIAN” that only the Mandolorian blacksmiths truly know how to work Beskar.
Now the dark saber as you mentioned is shorter, but it is wider than the traditional lightsaber. The modern lightsabers have a blade control for length and power. So depending on the user, they may have a shirt moderately powered blade to suit their strength and stature ( tosas blade) ; Or a longer blade if taller.
It’s possible that the dark saber made so long ago does not have this feature. So the blade being shorter is holding the full power of the Kiber crystal. Thus making it very powerful.
I would imagine that if a Tuscan was gathered for tge Jedi order he too may have a black crystal as they are warriors like the Mandolorian’s.
To be precise the blacksmith said that weapons made of Beskar should not exist, as it is the only thing that could pierce Beskar Armor. So in order to protect the Mandalorians from being harmed by their own weapons they simply forbid / did not make weapons from Beskar.
@@marcodoe4690 Yeah, it was definitely a more cultural reason than a scientific one. Beskar seems to make completely fine weapons, based on how the spear performed.
I think that’s awesome! It’s exactly what id consider ideal for this situation/issue-it’s stronger than any other sabers, but only slightly, so item doesn’t give any significant major advantages, but just in some stalemate situation it could be the deciding factor.
Also, I’m SO glad the idea that it changes people/turns them towards the dark side, has been dropped! That is SO stupid, and unnecessary! There’s already so much stuff like that, it’s nice that this is just a cool object with additional mysterious powers, that DOESNT corrupt people!
I believe that what we see in the dark saber's vis a light trick. Take a lit light bulb and place on a lit projector, on the screen you still see the filament. It's the same trick that happens with sun spots.
I'm colorblind and I just recently found out there was a purple lightsaber. I also had no clue that there was an orange or yellow one because they look exactly like the green ones to me. This video taught me more than I imagined
The dark saber is very interesting. I love the lore keep it up
We don't know if it is a kyber crystal, or something else that is capable if creating a blade. Another theory is that it is a blade focused through a Krate Dragon Pearl... but definitely stronger. Good video! 👍
it is my personal fav looking lightsaber, it just looks so CLEAN!
Great video!!! enjoyed it very much. You should do 1 for Corran's Horn Sliver blade :)
Also with the blade being thinner your focusing more energy into a smaller surface area. It's the same idea behind a curved blade, because it's curved your putting all the swings force through a smaller area, increasing cutting ability. If it has the same energy as a standard saber, physically it should be easier to cut things.
9:11 nice timing bro 👌
It's been known to cut through metals easier due to the edge, the heat is transfer is concentrated to one point and the flat blade makes it so there's less that it needs to cut through to fit the width of the blade, the other cylindrical blades have to cut a wider hole to get through.
Finally someone talk about Moff Gideon fight with Din Djarin..i was so shock when i see the beskar turn red when they fighting..
I think another thing that makes the Darksaber unique is that it doesn't really require the force to use effectively. There's been tales that sabers aren't as effective in non-force users hands and in the case of crystals so closely bonded to their user they won't even turn on for non-force users. Meanwhile given the weapon's status symbol is been wielded by more non-force users then any saber in history. So perhaps Tar Visla made a weapon for the Mandalorians, not a weapon for himself.
Because of the mandalorians ownership of beskar, I always felt like that Viszla had used beskar in the making of the of the darksaber, using the metal to guide whay is supposed to the rod of the saber, and thinning it to a blade. Which would also give it it's unique hum when it is in use.
It's also a blade so it's likely not only hotter, but just by its shape it focuses the heat in a much smaller point along the edge while a cylindrical blade is much thicker around thus requiring vastly more heat and time to penetrate an object.
The sides of the blade likely keep the peirced portions of the melting metal hot and melted reducing friction when going through said metal.
Simply said assuming the blade is as thin as 1/2 or 1/4 the width of a cylindrical blade it reduces the amount of metal needed to melt by the same amount not even taking into consideration if it is or isn't hotter.
Interesting indeed
Seems to me the logical thread would be that the beskar hilt allows it to focus the crystal in a way that other hilts cannot. The hilt is flat and angular, the beskar is unyielding to the crystal and it’s energy, hence an angular and flat blade is produced. This also can take into account the revelation in Boba ep 5, that it is a forged beskar Mando has never seen before. I would like there to be other factors to contribute to this as well. It would be just plain more interesting if it also had a unique crystal of some kind or a mini black hole as a crystal, insert super cool twist here.
I kind of agree since it has shown many different abilities. But it’s hard to say for certain cause manny things can change because the canon always changes. I remember reading that with lightsaber or specific the red saber crystal were design to destroy other lightsabers but I never actually seen that happen. So it’s still debatable.
The ghost kyber crystal and pearl ones make amazing sabers
The darksaber will always remain as one of my most favorites
i think the heat is also probably related to the fact that the blade is narrow compared to other light sabers which are more of a column then a blade. with the dark saber being narrow the blade energy is even more focus'd then it just being shorter, as its pressed into a thinner space, meaning the edge of the dark saber consist of more energy then a normal light saber. since we know beskar can be melted as they forge it.
I like the streak the Darksaber leaves behind during a swing
I could have sworn it was mentioned somewhere before that the blade was slightly magnetic too, making it easier to block and parry other lightsabers with.
I think what would be awesome is one of the secrets to becoming a force ghost is when your dying you have a Kyber crystal on you and when you are about to die you will yourself into the Kyber crystal. Then you can say that the dark saber is rare and special because it contains a force ghost in its Kyber crystal. Whether it’s a willow, Nightsister, Force Witch of Dathomir, Jedi or Sith that were taught but it was long forgotten.
if you notice the wall behind where Maul and Palpatine fight, there is a mural that has the jedi fighting the mandalorians, and behind the mandalorians you can see someone holding the dark saber opposite the jedi. Clearly fighting against them. just a little thing i just saw after watching this. Clone wars Season 5 Episode 16, you can pause it as the camera pulls out and see it really well in the last shot of the show.
What would be a cool is if the white glow around the blade wasn't it emitting light, but rather, it's so dark that it's literally absorbing/cutting through the light around it.
I still hold the head cannon that the kyber crystal inside the dark saber is obsidian based. In my mind, it makes the most sense given the blackness of the glass, but also that IT IS glass and therefore would have the white light glow.
Just my thoughts. Love the video. 💖
One of my observations of the blade coloring is that shadow is casted where light falls; and so in purest form the light would be pure white, but while it is contained in a restrictive manner, the light starts to collapse in on itself creating a void within the light field kind of like a contained star that has a black hole at the center without it consuming the sun.
Perhaps the blade was forged from a dying star, however theoretical that may be xD
In the mandalorian it is mentioned that the Saber becomes heavy with each swing. I think that's something to be noted aswell
The darksaber follows standard weapon balancing rules, in this case :
Reduced range for increased damage
Other rules that would normally apply are "slower swing for more damage" and "shorter weapons go faster". Both of these don't apply because these blades are just a handle.
Assuming all sabers use the same battery, the shorter blade could have more energy output and therefore more damage?
I doubt every single lightsaber wielder had the same access to the same materials.
Ooooooo. New dark saber lore and powers explored in today’s episode of boba fett!