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So long as you have common sense and zero the equipment, there is no issue. Don't have more than one type of powder out. Don't have more than one scale tray on the table. Zero the scale when you use it.
There's some confusion over scales that would be solved by reading a reloading book. If you want precision and consistency, weight is not the thing to use. It is volume. Lee dippers will give you a consistent shot far better than any scale.
wrap some pre measured copper wire or lead solder wire around the wire hook/arm. get them weighing the same. even stick plasticine to the bottom. many ways to zero them trays evenly
Looks like the hanging rod on the two trays were a different thickness. Good video.
I personally load for myself, family and really good paying customers. I always use the Perfect Powder Measure and the Lee scale, but I use the digital scales to make it perfect. I realize that no scale or powder measure is perfect, so I always double check. My lively hood depends on consistent loads each and every time. I use a powder trickler mostly for the hunting cartridges.
if you can suggest a good digital scale it would be greatly appreciated
Fatal is right. I have had a KaBOOM with my friends glock .45acp firing out of battery. That was a KaBOOM on a standard 5 grain charge. 4 extra grains of bullseye on top of a 5 grain near max load will send pieces of the hand guard and brass case or whatever is in between straight through your fingers and possibly detonating all the other rounds in your magazine. Good Catch Eric! Thanks for posting.
Great timing on your video Vet, I just got this in the mail today!!! keep em coming.
No, he ment grains. That scale can be set to measure grams, grains, carrots, and I believe ounces as well.
Well... If you want, you're always can grind away excessive weight from larger trays, so all of your trays are the same weight.
I'm glad you posted that. I have an extra tray I was thinking about using. 4 grains in a 5.56, especially with military brass, could be lethal to the shooter.
nice video, a four grain difference is nearly a double charge on my .40 loads. Its nice to have a powder that spills over on a double charge, gives you a little extra security.
Great point. You should mark the inside of one pan with a majic marker to distinguish them from each other. Just an idea.
Like other's have said, make sure all your trays weight the same... The best long term way is, IMHO, to put solder on the underside... Use your heaviest tray as your "base weight tray"... Put solder (with a soldering iron) on the bottom of your other trays... Don't worry if your "light" trays now become heavier then your base weight tray... You can easily remove excess solder with a bit of sand paper... Remove a bit, check for correct weight... Rinse and repeat as necessary...
I know bro, wasn't knocking you in any way if it sounded like that. I was talking to Mr. "could always remove 4 grains from the heavy one" up there. Great video and I really do appreciate you sharing.
my antique RCBS beam scale has a small metal dish screwed to the bottom where the factor added a few lead pellets I assume to make all the pans have the same Tare weight so if you use different pans just find the heaviest one and epoxy enough pellets to under side of the lighter to the outside or bottom I check mine with a known set of weights in My case a set of brass scale weights from My Father when He was at Ohio State in 1947 that came in a custom made wooden box
Lee scale manual says "do not replace parts" send whole assembly back because they are calibrated together from factory to work together
Glad I only have the one tray at the moment but even more glad I watched this to find out something I didn't know either if you picked up the weong one holy shit that'd be one hell of a hot load in my 45acp I use cfe pistol powder for my handloads and only use 7.5 grains with 4 additional grains I am sure I'd blow my 1911 up and get a face full of slide and barrel shrapnel and lose my hands too! Thanks for sharing this info brother! I just started reloading recently and have been extremely careful with the amount of powder I been loading in my pistols and rifles, so far I have not had any issues but I dang sure don't wanna do that! Good keeping a lookout and sharing some potentially life saving info! This is yet another reason why I've subscribed to your channel, you have great info and don't b.s. people either! Stay safe and keep shooting brother and keep the knowledge coming for new guys like me, we greatly appreciate it.
Yeah, for sure. 4 grains of rifle powder when you are already aiming for a max load or close to it would be a huge problem. I would like to think you would notice the difference in case fill, but its definitely not worth the risk. Imagine if you were aiming for 41.5 grains of h4350 and ended up with 45.5 grains. Best case is that you regret that mistake, worst case you're family would regret it. Sad part is that if it happened you probably wouldn't associate the results with a powder pan.
It could, but that could also be difficult to remove exactly 4 grains. It's best to just zero out the scale with the pan you choose to use, and put the other pan in a place where you won't have any chance of grabbing it. Take away any risk of possibly using the wrong one.
Why do you think it would be hard to get all your trays the same weight? Adjust scale for zero using your lightest tray, then using sandpaper or a file take off material from the other trays until they also read zero without any adjustment on the same scale
Like you said, common sense, but a good PSA. Thumbs up!
I held down tare and calibration as soon as i turned it on and kept doing that.but i got a frankford arsenal scale which I like more.
safty first.
i have a question, and i dont sound stupid, how do you tell the diffrence between the two trays? and what do you use the diffrent trays for? are they for diffrent types of rounds... or are they for diffrent types of powder...
@SPCkeith I have been handloading for almost 40yrs and I still do exactly the same same thing,every 10-15 rnds. With fast powders like bullseye and clays for sure.
I would say this is common sense but you would be amazed how sloppy people can be.
There is a guy who almost blew his fingers off with a .40. He bought a reloading setup, didn't even both weighing his loads, he just filled it to the brim and took it to the range. Needless to say his glock is now a fine powder.
Good looking out.
good catch!...., grab all of the trays,... weigh them,... slowly file the heavier ones down to the lightest weight.- and maybe lable the trays with a sharpie as an attention getter.
When ever I set up for a powder run I zero out my beam scale without exception. Just as I would tare my digital scale. Every 6 months or so I also proof my scales using brass weights with a balance scale. I've always done this as a matter of course and never had a mishap. This takes less than 60 seconds to do any scale.
What digital scale would be cheap but fairly safe to start out with a Lee hand loader for 9mm until I'm confident with doing rifle cartridges if you don't mind me asking.
I enjoy all your videos. I can tell that you enjoy making them. I use the LEE Safety scale. Works good for me. I only have the one tray, but it's good to know that as my reloading equipment expands, that the trays don't all weigh the same. Good observation. One question. What type of digital scale are you using? I hear pros and cons about the accuracy of digital scales. I load .38 special and .357mag. Any suggestions? Digital scales may be a good future video. Thanks. Wateroperator
Digital scales have a learning curve, and it takes a good amount of time to trust them. At least it took me a while to trust them. I sat at my reloading bench for 2 hours throwing charges and then going back and forth between a beam scale and the digital to confirm the accuracy and I was still puckered up the first few range trips.
Update of my earlier post. I just read some reviews of this Hornady scale. Seems that people aren't happy with it either. Probably is made by American Weigh. Many of the comments sound the same. Not always accurate. Varies by +/- 0.2 grains. I reload handgun ammo and I need a scale that will be accurate to 0.1 grain every-time. So far my Lee safety scale has been perfect. But I'd still like to get a digital for convenience. Now which one will meet the Lee's accuracy?
What I do is mark them on the bottom with a sharpie.
Am I adding for more grains or no?
could always remove 4 grains from the heavy one
Good heads-up, and thanks.
Could you provide a manufacturer and model number of your digital scales ? I like the size and low height.
What do you recommend as a good digital scale that doesnt cost an arm and a leg?
Is that electronic scale the Hornady GS-1500? If so how do you like it and how would you compare it to the frankford arms scale.
I only have 1 tray for my scale! Why do I need 2? I can only use it for one charge at a time any way.
I also use the RCBS Charge MAster dispensor. Great item that.
Easy fix. Use a file and trim the scales so they are equal weight.
I've been looking for a digital scale. The Hornady in this video looks exactly like some scales made by "American Weigh" company. Do you know if Hornady gets theirs from them? I'm trying to decide if I should pay $15 for the AW, or about $35 for the Hornady. (Some) people that reviewed the AW said it wasn't perfectly accurate, but others liked it. Has the Hornady given you any issues? I'm guessing that Hornady may use another supplier, but I still wonder why they look identical. thanks.
i got that same digi ... but i use it for something else ......and its grams not grains.....if hats what your saying
wow, inadvertant troll there, i didnt intend to come off abrasive or like a smartass, some scales come with trays that have a removable bottom you can change the weights in, zero is zero (within the accuracy of the scale anyway), anyway if i ever get a reloading bench to put my equipment on im going to put up everything im not using for the immediate task so dp908 need not worry about being next to me at the range :P
Could you do a indepth review of this scale? I am looking at getting a new scale thats not as touchy as my old old (grandfathers) RCBS i think it is. you even walk passed the table that thing is on and it will loose zero. unless thats normal for these kind of scales? I have been thinking about an electronic scale but can't find one worth a crap under 75 bucks. might be getting a new 223 action and want to go for max precision. thanks
This is why you zero the scale before you start
@Iraqveteran8888 I didn't know that. I find though that the more i use my RCBS the more comfortable i get with it. I would like to gewt a digtial scale some day soon. any recommendations? I don't have a lot of money so I was looking at getting a frankford arsenal DS-750. I see though that you have a hornady how do you like it?
If you don't zero or check weight your scales prior to loading and this came as a surprise to you, you shouldn't be reloading. If you aren't checking every bullet's weight and every powder load You shouldn't be reloading. This video is about as useful as the "*Caution* DO NOT EAT SILICA. THROW AWAY" packets that are found in packaging contents.
Or, you could blow that Lee Safety Scale to kingdom come . Now that would be a great video.
Shouldn't you zero your scale everytime you begin to measure your charge.
Am I wrong or do you have tens thousands of dollars in firearms and the cheapest possible reloading equipment?
did anyone figure out how to fix this? please help me!!!!!
@Iraqveteran8888 I've found the opposite to be true. My Lee scale is much more accurate than my RCBS.
Great video ..
Your right bad day.
DON'T CALL ME "UA-cam"
@Iraqveteran8888 I gues my main concern is am always second guessing the scales I recheck zero every 10 to 15 rounds guess thats a good thing though in the way of being careful huh?
Or you could just do it the right way and zero the scale out to begin with and not dance with death. Scares me knowing people like you sit at the reloading bench and sit beside me at the range....
I wouldnt trust the lee scales , My dad uses a set of them and to me they really suck I think u get what u pay for and to me scales isnt something u want to be cheap on
Iraqveteran8888 i have a dillon that i like really well , hack ive had it for about 4 years and its still doing great, I have been thinking about a set of elict.scales
Neat
I wouldnt of thought a video was needed for this lol
ok thanks XD
"Let's move over to the digital scale...." Why don't you just stay there? Who the hell uses mechanical scales?
reddog418 people on a tight budget granted the price of digital read scales has come down greatly but still most of the primary reason to reload is cost savings
Walt Lars 10 bucks on amazon. If you're reloading you can afford 10 bucks.
True it's been a while since I have done any reloading
+reddog418 lots of first time reloaders buy kits that come with triple beam balances. They use those while they ae deciding of reloading is for them and or until they can buy digital scales. They may not have the extra money after dropping cash on the press kit, dies, powder, pojectiles, calipers, case lube, loading blocks so on and so forth. Reloading can get expensive, especially if you are first starting out and on limited budget.
You don't need batterys or power for a balance scale and its mostly precisely than a digital scale. Who would have in a apocalypse a digital scale and solar charging ect is not always possible.