Energy From Mountains | Renewable Energy Solutions
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With a growing shift towards renewable energy, cheap and effective methods of storing energy and smoothing out fluctuations are needed. In this video we take a look at one of those solutions. Enjoy!
PS I'm having the interview with Dr. Adrian on Blockchain technology tomorrow so expect a video in a couple of weeks.
ColdFusion again a great interesting Video.
This year in my vacation i was in austria. They are using Pump-storage-powerplants for storing energy in peakhour economicaly efficient. Isnt the idea of pumping water up and down the mountain a great option for energy storage. As far as i know does it have a rather huge efficiency. Maybe you could do a video comparing this technic with li-Ion batteries.
Greetings from Germany. Keep these amazing videos coming. I really want to Thank you for making this high quality content for "free". Have a nice day.
About this technology, I've only one thing to say - "Sounds Good, Doesn't Work" *Trump hands*
RIPHitchens i think i does. The Austrian "illwerk" are building their Second 600MW powerplant right now
I'm loving all these green energy videos. But I'm far more excited for advanced nuclear technologies, they solve all the current problems of the technology and are low cost and can make a huge difference. Look up Terrestrial Energy, Transatomic or Thor Con. I hope that you can get as excited as me for the future of energy :)
ColdFusion Thank you again for another informative video!
Now that we are on the subject of batteries and their potential in the future. Can you possibly do a video on the huge mining reserves of lithium in Bolivia and how they can be the next big energy producing nation in the world for the coming decades?
Wow..!! Video from Coldfusion and Kurzgesagt on same day..!!!
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Also LEMMiNO!
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AmxCsifier Yup! All are amazing
I'm in school to be an electrician and this is the kind of stuff that motivates me to work with energy. People who create technology like this are going to need people to help install and maintain it. We just finished a semester on solar energy and I'm strongly considering working with PV panels now after watching this!
you earned a sub man! keep up the great work. You're doing the world a favor by informing us instead of dumbing us down like the rest of the youtube channel. Just know someone actually appreciates your work more for more than just content. You're awesome man!
It feels great to watch your videos. Keep going.
Great and insightful video as always! Stiil waiting for another mixtape video though. I really love your music!
You've got a soothing and satisfying voice.
Thanks for the video Dagogo. Love your content. Continue what you are doing!
thank you for this video. I like the format of coldfusion!!
This channel is one my best on UA-cam, Keep it up dagogo you're doing great.
always love your videos, great to see an aussie smashing it :D
Love your work mate, keep it coming!
I didn't know about this alternative energy strategy. This seems like a great idea.
Hello from Switzerland! You're always welcome to come back Dagogo!
Everything about your Videos is perfect. I love them so much.
thanks a lot . Your channel keeps me updated with everything . thanks a lot buddy . Good job.
We live in such exciting times! I can't wait to start working in this field.
You're voice is awesome mate & to gain all this knowledge about the future is incredible. Keep up the good work!
I really like this because the mountain never wears out like a battery does and thanks for sharing this
Absolute joy to watch your content sir
day will come, where electricity is much cheaper than water.
Electricity will desalinate abundant salt water into drinking water. As you see there a very promising technologies developed to overcome shortages and problems. The only real problem is the stupidity of some of the leaders in the world to focus on aggression & lobbyism restrictions instead of enhanced science / technology research & development.
or water will just be supper expensive ;D at least clean wataaaaH
The day should come where essential resources are so plentiful and easily replaced that their cost is virtually nothing.
@@luckerooni7628 capitalism tends to favor making things that are abundant worthless thus keeping them scarce and expensive. Imo.
@@maxpower1337 Exactly why your cell phone costs 4,000 dollars right?
your every new video gets more and more better
thanks for sharing such valuable knowledge .
Such amazing work Dagogo!
In Australia in the snowy mountains we have massive turbines in our mountains which is powered by water dripping down the inner mountain. You can google it, it's called snowy hydro. This provides enough power to the whole of NSW and excess goes to other cities and states. If it's not snowing or raining and there are clouds, we burn silver nitrate which forces rain. You need to store your energy somewhere else because mountains are good for generating energy. I'm not trying to dis this guy but would you rather be paying to create energy or store it? Mountain hydro is already an existing technology and it costs less.
Coldfusion and MKBHD. It's just something about the quality of their content that just makes it so much better!
I have been waiting too long for this
Beautiful video.
Just finished an IEEE paper on Energy Storage Technology last night. Good timing!
Awesome information
Love and appreciate your videos! Cheers! 🇨🇦
Multiple times I find myself going back to your videos for homework. This time for a class out of my last term. Thank you for helping me graduate 🎓
I love your work!!! Please continue these amazing work. And greetings from India! :)
awesome, really cool! I thought this was gonna be about pumping water up top mountains and then hydroelectrically releasing it but this seems to have the potential of much greater ubiquity
You always do great and interesting videos keep them coming keep up the good work thanks a lot
I feel smarter every time i watch one of your vids. Keep putting out that knowledge.
Great topic and very interesting. Thsnks
A bit of a heads up info for everyone or some ammo for your gun so to speak - Where I work we just installed $900Ks worth of solar panels. I worked closely with the project manager. I asked him how they work out how many panels and how to space them to achieve the required output. He answered that there is a world industry wide/universal set of calculations. So we worked out how many panels and how much area would be required to replace a standard 4 x 2000 megawatt generator power station. The answer is 20 million panels which will need 14,800+ square acres of land or wildlife habitat or farmland ( The aquisition of farmland which is currently happening in North Victoria and Southern NSW in Australia. Places like Corowa or Jindera for example).
As for those bloody hideous windfarms, 24 were recently installed in a forest in Germany (yep thats right, a forest). 28,000 acres of trees were mowed down. When these things come to the end of their 10 year lives they are so incredibly expensive to pull down they leave them there instead. Oh dear what to do? Oh ok I know lets bulldoze more trees/farmland/wildlife habitat.
About those solar panels, the VAST majority are made in China. If you buy the Tier 1 panels they may often last their 10 years of life. If you buy the Tier 2 and 3 you can expect around 2 years. However if you are smart you'll purchase the 10 year warranty. But wait - the chinese government which owns most of the companies making them are refusing to honour the warranties. Theres one minor (minor?) problem with the old solar panels - there are literally hundreds of thousands of them that they simply dont know how to dispose of.
On another note - a question or two for the Extinction Rebellion people. If you're so concerned about animals being killed, why do we NEVER EVER see you lot protesting outside an halal slaughterhouse? AND..... whats your solution to introduced species like foxes and ESPECIALLY, cats killing of our native animals?
Hey kids if you really care about the planet - protest on a weekend or holiday.
Very interesting concept and very fascinating.
GOOD WORK! ... thank you for the insight!!!!
great content thanks
Thank you for your contribution.
Your channel is absolutely awesome and inspiring. Not for small minded people, but I hope this generation will catch onto it fast.
I have a friend who is working on another project for alternative energy options.
Hi cold fusion I really like ur videos they allow me to foresee the future
i'd love to see a video from you about scotland's use of renewables - i recently learned it's one of the best in europe, having many 100% renewable use days (for residential *and* industrial) in the last few years too. scotland has a large amount of mountains and lakes and dams already, so it would be interesting to know how much they would need to be supplemented by batteries and this kind of gas pressure storage to maintain 100% renewable supply for all grid loads.
scotland runs a lot of its water system through local government, which leads to unmetered use - the water charge is only an equal division of the previous year's network maintenance costs. part of the reason scotland can run the water this way is because it's one of the few countries to not have many large scale droughts in the last 10-15 years, instead often having the opposite problem, with other parts of the uk actually buying up excess water supply from scotland.
scotland's disproportionately high water availability compared to neighbours is a clear parallel, in my opinion, to its disproportionately high renewable energy capacity, which leads me to hope that there may be a similar "maintenance costs only" system for electricity here, once renewables become able to provide 100% capacity all year round. the actual "fuel" could become passive, much like the water reservoirs are already.
what's wrong with pumped hydro for storage?
Relatively high cost and slow response times. I think it can take around 3-4 mins to kick in (that's the amount of time it takes for the water to fall down and spin the turbines) which is too slow for on demand load balancing
and hollowing out a mountain is cheaper and faster?
Seth Apex I'm not sure but it's possible because pumped hydro requires a lot of piping to be dug as well as requiring a dam where as this seems to just require a single chamber although depending on the capacity that could be a very large chamber
Seth Apex you have to excavate a reservoir and dig a borehole, which is more expensive because you have to drag all that machinery up a mountain. Then the reservoir evaporates and power is limited.
Gas can be stored at a high pressure and gives more energy per amount of material excavated, and the bore is made closer to ground level.
They plan on using existing cavities such as old tunnels, and natural caves, so not much digging required. The time to build such a system would be simmilar to a hydro of the same size. Hydro plants also have the problem of slow response time, meaning that when load is addeed to the system, they may take multiple minutes till they are ready to provide power. Also they flood formerly beautiful valleys with water... So while these Pressure-Storage Plants my seem overengeneered they might just be what's needed to get a reliable, renewable power grid.
Really innovative man... I watch your videos every time u upload.. You are doing great work..
awesome dude thanks
Damm good channel on UA-cam
thankyou for giving us more information...
Very informative Vlogs, keep them coming please
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I love you videos keep up the good work 👌
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How about the energy stored by pumpin water up into a lake that's high in the mountains.
And withdrawing it by letting the water flow back down through a turbine ?
Yes... the solution in this video seems overengineered 😆
Because it would be completely useless because the energy gained from doing that would be less than the energy used to pump the water up. We need something that nature has already done for us, I say let's use some thermal storage technology to gather energy from volcanoes.
No. Water pumping is efficient enough and it far cheaper than this. That why there already are hundreds water pumping plants in the world already...
Energy gain was never the point. They just need storage, so efficiency is second to capacity.
With that as basis, the compressed air approach beats out the gravity based pumped-water storage.
um yes that's normal, you can't break the laws of thermaodynamics. And it's not completely useless, 30% of Swiss electricity is produced in these pumped storage power plants.
"Feel free to subscribe" done. After watching around 3 vids, nice research and work👊
Thank you, Dagogo!
You make very interesting videos. Please make some more on block chain technology cause that's really interesting as it's growing so fast
In germany one of the power-supplier has or wanted to build one of the preasure-"batteries". And rhey want so safe some of the heat in a tank with something inside... (cant remember anymore)
Amazing Video by the way!
I could listen to this guys voice for days
So with the pilot project; 3,000m^3 pressurized at 100bar = 1kwh. That seems like an important equation to remember.
This is cool, thank you.
Thanks. Yes very interesting. It references an old tech that goes back more than 150 years but which was built to handle much smaller quantities of energy storage and creation.
Another mountain energy storage technique is already in use. Excess power is used to pump water into an elevated reservoir during times of surplus energy. During periods of need the stored water is run through turbines just like any other hydroelectric power plant. I think there are turbines that will also function as pumps.
What we really need is energy storage in a transportable form like a fuel as renewable energy. As renewable energy is commonly best produced in areas far from where it is needed and sometimes in a different part of the year, the second of which this one deals with.
I live here and didn't even know about this. Good to see new ideas rise
Thanks
very innovative.
Amazing
Good one Dogogo...
You've always surprised me with videos that are packed with innovation...
But what is the maintenance cost of this type of storage, as you know air contains a lot of gases which could accumulate and some of them like Hydrogen sulphide, et cetera could make the environment in the storage more of acidic which is undesired by any turbine! Would love to know about the filtration techniques they'd employed to dissipate this threat.
Hoping to see a video on this soon..
Thanks! 😉
Awesome! Energy out of Thin Air!
Soo awesome :D I dind't know about that and I am from seitzerland😄
Hej Dagogo! Nice videos on renewables and storage techs!!! It could be cool if you were doing a video on CSP (concentrating solar power) to follow your series on solar!
Well it's 2019 and at the end of 2018 ( july30) I bought a 2018 Tesla model S 100D and the year before I installed solar on my house and I think these choices were some of the best things I could have done for me and the environment. :)
I know that some water reservoir storages can start outputting energy in a matter of seconds (around 12 secs i think it was),
so how long does it take for the mountain energy storage to start outputting energy for the grid?
what makes this better than current pumped-storage hydroelectric technologies? it sounds like it would be more expensive and inefficient than that...
Because there ain't enough suiteable locations for pumped hydroelectric technologies. Remember we can't live keep livestock nor farm crops on lakes.
seems like there would be more suitable locations for that than for digging a massive chamber in a mountain and pumping it with extremely compressed air
I have a feeling there is a reason they have it underground that they are not explaining. Perhaps its something to do with the stability in ambient temp underground or this thermal energy storage aspect that other plants currently don't implement. The cost of boring tunnels vs building a dam would be an interesting comparison.
LukeyPook
Lakes at altitudes are already widely used to produce hydro electric power.
An upcoming problem since glaciers in the alps at least are retreating which in time will drastically reduce their fresh water production.
The advantage is that it doesn't use (fresh) water so any mountain should do and won't depend on the presence of a lake. If the mountain is made out of unsuitable rock formations, it doesn't matter because you can reinforce the walls of the chamber and if it were to leak, it's just hot air, not a mix of chemicals.
Brilliant
Is the heat stored in water? What also works and has been done is pumping water up a mountain to a high up lake. Then when energy is needed drain it through a turbine. Rain that drains into the lake would add to the potential energy.
cold fusion sees the future. Nature is glad for your presence.
Just wondering when you'll do a story on the mining of Lithium and it's effect on the environment!
Yes, and I am interested in alternatives to lithium.
@@SMC01ful Potassium.
Wow what a rare sight to see the guy behind the voice!
I would love to see a video of yours about the potential of algaes concerning energy production and bio fuel
These info snippets are amazing. You are an Ace. If you need tech people count me in.
I also like storage of energy in the form of water tanks set up high. Using a chain of turbines to convert falling water into energy. Channeling excess energy into a battery to reduce waste. Energy output varies on valve
Another great video🍺🍺🍺
Hi Bro,Just a thought,can an alternator be incorporated in tandem with the electric motors to recharge the batteries on electric cars,or put a larger electric in the rear of the car and a large Alternator on the two front wheels to recharge the batteries.
You should do a comparison video to underwater air storage for energy. The concept is that the hydrostatic pressure from the water means you do not need nearly as strong as a vessel to store the air, and do not need a mountain-sized container
Well that was interesting, and it doesn't seem infeasible either apart from that heat storage part but it could be totally a thing, although I only partly see why you need to store the heat because you would think you could use the super cold air to cool the dynamo in the turbine to make it a super conductor increasing it's efficiency so you would pass the super chilled air while it expands though the dynamo then though the heat storage then into the turbine.
That means you can decrease the efficiency of the heat storage which I would assume would be one of the most expensive parts because you would be getting some of your heat from the dynamo.
Kurzgesagt and ColdFusion uploading on the same day!? NUT!!!!
If all of the countries you mention will pressurize air, what will be the effct on the atmosphere? How much can be pressurized without any side effects on the enviroment?
I would never ever have known you was black coldfusion.
Its a good day when cold fusion and kargestage upload there videos on the same day...
The only issue i'm envisioning for mountain storage is you end up blowing up said mountain, it feels rather risky with that approach because not every mountain is structurally sound
Very good idea, I've supported it for a long time, but now new type of air solution appear - cryogenic liquid air energy storage. This is further development of compressed air idea and looks like it is better than just compressed air.
Pumping water up a hill to a lake using electricity from solar/wind etc and releasing it when power is needed sounds a lot simpler and easier less volatile way of doing the same. Even if you were to get say 50w back for every 100w used to get the water up, the power would be just as on demand as this. The UK has been doing this since the 80s as a response to people's obsession with TV soaps and everyone putting the kettle on after for some tea 😁
Here's one we made earlier
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinorwig_Power_Station
My problem with this method of saving energy is, that if you pressurise the mountain over and over again, it will start to crack and eventualy collapse.
A great analogy to this is the havailand comet which suffered under the same problem, which eventualy lead to a series of crashes due to the weardown of the cabin.
I like coldfusion !!! Please upgrade to 4K quality
Nice
Good idea about using compressed air storage, might not even need a mountain, just a tank that can handle the pressure.
I love how you don't sell out (:
If you are faced with a mountain, you have several options.
You can climb it and cross to the other side.
You can go around it.
You can dig under it.
You can fly over it.
You can blow it up.
You can ignore it and pretend it’s not there.
You can turn around and go back the way you came.
Or you can stay on the mountain and make it your home.”
You can also tell it to move
@ColdFusion
Is there any information about plasma gasification?
It seemed like all the rage a few years back. A technology that could turn trash into energy and usable materials with very little pollution seems like a win-win situation.
Propositions like making plastics that were stronger than steel with such a plant were made.
What happened?