Commuting cost comparison! (car | bus | ebike | bicycle)
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2019
- Have YOU ever thought of it? There must've been a time in your life when you wanted to run the numbers as to how expensive different transportation methods are. Well, I made a few assumptions, ran some numbers, and did some math. All for you!
I compared the costs of commuting via:
- vehicles
- public transit
- ebikes
- regular bicycles
Although you might not be I-just-had-a-heart-attack surprised, these numbers are still super interesting! At least to me!
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Came for the cost analysis. Stayed for the fine, fine humor.
Too much for some people haha - glad you enjoyed! 😜
Super informative video. I've really been realizing the burden and cost of having a vehicle. I'd like to make some changes to save money and also become a little more eco-friendly. However, I need my car once in a while for gigs and such where I have tons of gear. If only insurance was cheaper for people who use their cars a few times a month.
I actually think if you call up your insurance company and say "hey, look here. I'm not commuting with this vehicle", they'll give you a steep discount.
I also feel like once you're "already sinking money into a car", you're definitely more likely to use it "because you're already paying into it". It's hard to resist the temptation!
Keep me updated!
Cargo ebike + bike trailer. Possible, but not that great for driving to gigs in another city.
In the 14 months Ive owned my bike Ive already paid 2x as much in car insurance than I paid for the bike which requires no insurance.
Bikes are fricken amazing!
I’m considering buying an e-bike though I do have a nice car that’s very gas efficient. I really like how much more environmentally friendly they are and how much I could save too.
My partner and I share a cheap Elantra GT now and have only put around 5000km on it in the last 2 years because we take our ebikes everywhere - even the grocery stores! So much fun all year round and it's rewarding to see our car go unused for weeks at a time!
I love that you included the increased cost of food for the non-ebike bike numbers. I had a suspicion that was going to get a mention later on in the video.
Another cost of commuting by car is the insane prices for parking in the downtown core. at least $10 in some cases
Is it really insane to ask for $10 for people to use a big chunk of public space for private storage?
In certain neighborhoods it can be dangerous to wait on a bus because you open yourself up to hoodlums who may wish to take advantage of your situation. Not to mention the occasionally crazy person on public transit that may make your life interesting. Also is no one going to mention the difficulty of having a social life with the opposite sex when you're a guy wanting to go out with the girl and she finds out you don't have a car and you just ride a bicycle or take the bus. Maybe in certain urban areas that might work but I'm not aware of it being a popular option for most guys. Having said all that I used to have the cheapest car around a 29 year old Corolla but it recently got hit by a lady from Jamaica and because I only had minimum insurance and no collision and comprehensive I'm now learning about riding the bus and have been thrilled to find out I can take a bicycle on the front of the bus. It would be great if they made a lightweight ebike you could take on the front of the bus
Thanks for the thoughtful comparison. I want to mention one other mode. I ride a moped almost everywhere and am convinced it's the CHEAPEST mode of all. Yes it requires maintenance, very little. I lanesplit, so super fast, super gas mileage, good cargo capable, "I bring my dog most places"
Which moped carries a dog??
All of them, my genuine buddy 50, my sport city 250, my DRZ 400 and before that my Buell Ulysses
I don't know if this will work, but here goes. drive.google.com/file/d/1Qq7JqT8MIYS-JkHhjg4s5C5uN96Ot2sj/view?usp=drivesdk
Good idea.
I had considered a moped several years ago.
But found that I was getting around just fine. Back then, most of my commutes were a short 3 -6 miles.
Although there are the $100.00 gas engines for pedal bikes, I might just consider getting an Ebike.
But I do like the workout .
You can’t include the running costs if you already own a car?Nor at least all of them. I have a car, e-bike and a motorbike. They all have different purposes but can all be used for commuting to work. The actual cost of my commute is purely the fuel costs. So the bicycle wins on cost every time, e-bike second, motorbike 3rd and car 4th obviously. Now I might add parking costs for a car, zero for any of the bikes. But I would add maintenance costs to all and they would also align the exact same way above. The E-bike is quickest in heavy traffic. Personally I prefer the E-Bike as they can also use bus lanes legally. My commute is 6.6km each way and I work from home twice a week, so my actual fuel costs are approx €15 per week (assuming todays rates). Parking is €10 per day. Public transport costs are €5 return per day. So €45 for the car before any maintenance costs. If I had free parking at work, the public transport costs would be effectively the same. The maintenance costs should at least be pro-rated considering the car is user far more outside of work and at weekends. Very difficult if not impossible to accurately break this out. The way I see it, these costs exist regardless if used for commuting and I would use the car a lot more outside of work hours. Very much a case by case exercise but the only time the car wins is when it is raining 🤣
Yep, very case-by-case unless you can forego having a vehicle entirely (very possible in big cities).
Good info and estimates. It varies from places and the available mode to get from point A to B. I take my regular bike for close places and public transportation to work since it's farther.
Love to hear it! It widely varies depending on the city or location that you're in but good on you for biking for close places!
I salute you man...very well put together video...i always wondered what the true numbers were. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Anything other numbers that you'd like to see run?
@@BenDurham naw..im good..thanks again
What quick release do u have
If you're a young, single person in your teens, 20s, and 30s, ebikes are the way. I'm 25 and have been biking since I was 21. Best decision I've ever made lol. Ebikes are the future.
Oh for sure! They cover SO many demographics & uses! Even those under 16yo who can't drive. And those over 60 who want an extra boost. And those between 16 and 60 who want alternatives or can't or don't want to have to drive everywhere all the time!
that's even funnier (or sad depends on your side?) to know that cars and car ownership is very heavily subsidized by government (you think the real gas prices are what you pay at pump? you wish it's always controlled and mostly paid a huge subside to make it affordable for drivers) also the cost of maintaining the road and the cost of parking lot and I'm not even talking about the cost on environment and climate change. yeah it far away from the price of gas of the car. we are privileged to drive a car and all other costs are paid by someone else now or in future. live with that if you even care
Tho it depends on city... Especially with public transport. As in Helsinki, Finland you can go with some 360-700 euros a year.
That's around CAD $550 to 1100... not too bad! It DEFINITELY depends on the city. I for a fact that in most of Canada (except for major cities like Vancouver, Toronto, and Ottawa), living without access to at least one vehicle is very difficult so it's worth the cost of ownership IMO.
WOW, transit in big cities is expensive. My monthly pass is 50$, so 600$ a year.
Bikes you need to replace drivetrains tires, and tubes and bar tape and tighten spikes when you are really getting the mileage in.
Also shifter cables brake pads, and shifter cables on bikes without electronic shifting.
@@aethylwulfeiii6502 8500 km on my bike in the last year. Total maintenance cost: $35 CAD so far.
Bike co-ops ftw.
He didn't include studded tires for the ebike lol...I played about 400 bucks for my Dillingers lol. If you encounter ice.. You need studded tires they are worth it.
I did add that in to my calculations, actually! I've been biking everyday for the last 5 months (see my other recent videos) and have hit ice a few times so far this winter. No problemo because I have one front studded tire that was $125 (ice spiker) that will last me 3-5 seasons. I have another of the same tire in my garage as well, but typically go all winter with just the one.
Why did you multiply a 12-month pass by 12 for 1 year of public transit, is a 12-month pass not good for 1 year? (4:04)
It's funny because you had me doubt myself! I went and double checked busy now though. The answer is yeeeeeeep, that's the "monthly cost" of an annual pass. Kinda weird... I would've thought they would've had an actual lump sum cost in the.
Where are you from and how much are passes there?
@@BenDurham I'm from Michigan and our dart/smart system is $70 a month
@@BenDurham It's a 12-month pass because you have to buy the full year of passes to get that rate. I think it works out to one free month per year, as opposed to buying individual monthly passes. At least it used to!
Great video, bicycles all the way.
Especially now with COVID having taken hold! This was before you had to consider alternatives to public transport.
How about Electric Skateboards? like Boosted.
wow i did not know ebikes in the us and canada where so expencive i bought my 1000w ebike (bear in mind it was a refurbished ebike) but i payed £650 from a reputable local shop
they aren't lmao. It's really only Canada and Europe where they're expensive. And if you build one from a kit, it's even cheaper.
@@thelonercoder5816 Europe? I'm in the UK and thay aren't too expensive and I know that in Poland it's way cheaper than the UK idk about the rest of Europe though but they are quite cheap comparatively
@@sudostudio5235 I mean europe, esp the UK, is highly regulated and one of the most expensive places to buy ebikes lmao. You illegally bought a 1000W second-hand ebike, congrats. But if you were to legally buy it from a ebike store, you'd have to pay significantly more.
@@thelonercoder5816 yh funny thing is I bought it from a shop and yh it was Hella illigal had it stolen though it's not expensive if you buy it from a local shop luckily I have one in my local city centre so yh in places like Halfords that get expensive though
Edit you can also buy legal ones there but that specialise in converting them and 99.9% of them Are illigal so yh
Great video! Fun to watch but you forgot to include the time costs, like the relative time cost of GTA spent going to court, and ultimately jail time. Just wanted to add.
Lol what's the jail time for?
@@BenDurham Oh, just pressuring n that after the police chase, you’d have to face the back seat of a police car, etc. following the natural progression of what happens to car thieves
When I see the max figure for Bicycle commuting but know that my bike cost 6 times more than that.
Your e bike is slower than my regular peddle bike.
@@aethylwulfeiii6502 I don't really care about speed, I care about showing up to work not sweaty 🤷♂️
I think you make a mistake on this video its a "12 month pass" not a 1 month pass of $138.55 LOL time 4:06
Whoopsies!
I think that I’ll stick with my bike :)
Same!
But here public transport does cost 400 euro
Yep, the affordability of Canada's public transit isn't the greatest :( -- For anyone reading this, that 400 euros is about $620 CAD
Theres no bus or bike or nothing I have to drive a car 60 miles daily freeway
Wowsers! I suppose where you live has the benefit of being less expensive to live in?
Where are you based?
Can someone from USA recognise a Canadian accent or not ?
🤷♂️ I'm Canadian, though
Why people use cars is beyond me
They're super handy and helpful but sure do cost a lot! Biking could solve a lot of people's problems - including those who are struggling financially.
Nice video.
However, your estimated are too high for both the car and the bicycle.
A used car only cost a thousand or two. And the insurance and maintenance are ojay if you're a good driver.
I have 4 bicycls. None of which cost me more than $20.00. My intertubes run about $6.00/ea. In the 4yrs that had them, I spent less than $50.00
I don't drive a car nor do take buses.
I'm 62yrs old and commute 12-to-16 miles 4-t4-to-5 days a week.
freshing up easy and quick!
Pedal bikes, RULE!!!!
PEACE !!!!!
I dunno about this, I tried to be as fair as possible but a lot of people don't realize how much they actually end up spending. If you listen, again, I tried to account for the average person not biking a few times per year... because "most people" aren't going to bike 100% of the time. And with cars, there's gas, insurance, and yes, maintenance. Of course you can get a cheap car but "most of the time" people aren't motorheads who can pick out the most mechanically mint used car. Most people who cheap out on cars end up spending their amount saved on repairs.
Anyway, these numbers are approximate. I'd say the e-bike one is maybe a bit overpriced as well, though I'm the exception. I've only spent around $1750 in 2 years (including all maintenance, multiple studded tires, brake pads, etc.) over the course of 12000 km. But I also do all my own repairs.
@@BenDurham I see your point !
While are many people like myself who are not spending a lot on their bikes and do our own maintenance, there are many people who do. Recently I priced a new wheeler for one of my bikes. A decent low to mid level tires, tubes, and steel rim wheels cost more then just one of bikes new.
I've been blessed and hadn't needed any work done in 3 or 4 yrs.
However I've got to meet other cyclists that spends crazy amounts on their bikes.
You might be right !
These people also consider cycling to be the among the most economic modes of transport.
But a few of them also have their cheap bikes.
I bought in Italy an e bike for 999 euro
Yep! That's about the cost of mine in the first year (around $1550 CAD). Keep in mind tax on the 999 euro. Then after 3 years, I got a spare battery for longer distances for $550. And maintenance, etc. It adds up (a lot slower than a car though haha)
I paid an emtb with 380 wh battery 1000 euro is 1200 bucks or more after tax i own the bike since july so only 5 months
@@alepi6164 that would make it less expensive! My batteries are 648 Wh, 14Ah, 48v each. 1000w hub motor.
@@BenDurham here in Italy you must get an ebike with maximum power of 250 watt 25 km/h