@@theTechNotice I get the point why you do that, but did you think there's a way you can use this amount of ram on something? Isn't to much for video editing or music production? I mean a professional band lets say 5 instruments, voice and the chorus can do the job on 32gb no problem, event the videoclip with video in raw could be done with 64gb. So if 64gb is faster by access timing cause just have to handle/locate half of the memory, did you think 128gb will pay off, I mean did you think you are going to be able to use more than 64gb in a real world job? Can I ask how you plan to use it? Thanks
For anyone intrested in the Fractal Torrwnt case with the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420, it can fit in the case without modifcation if you mount it with the tubes at the bottom (which is actually better for the pump). However, this is not an option with all GPUs as the tubes will not reach with all GPUs. Update: I have now installed an Arctic Liquid Freeze II 420 (with 6 fans pull/push) into the Fractal Torrent case. I did not need to cut the bottom fan brakcet down to make it fit. It was awkward and slow to get it in but now it's in and works perefectly with no case modifcation. The tubes are down and I have a ASUS RTX TUF 3090.
I just received the fractal torrent case and ordered the artic liquid cooler II 360 (planning to use it with the i7 13700k). Do you think I should return the case or the cooler? Or will everything still work/fit well?
@@OfficialGundem I think you should be fine with the Artic II 360 as that is physically smaller than the 420 which I managed to install. I’d think 360 should go in nicely, just be patient and take your time. If it’s like the 420 install, it was a little frustrating but it does fit perfectly in the end. If you, or anyone else here, would like I could post some pictures of my Artic 420 II install so you can have a look.
finally a mainstream youtuber addressing the very stupid issue of having to cut the bottom fan mount to install a 420mm rad. too many youtubers praised this case without noting any of its issues
would you have to cut the fan mount to put in the 360mm artic ii non rgb? I already ordered the case last week and ordered the cooler earlier today before seeing this...halp
I suggest changing the CPU socket to the Thermal Grizzly or Thermalright socket that prevents IHS bending - it's known to significantly reduce CPU temps in many cases.
Im planning to get an i7-12700K this month hopefully when I find a good deal/price, I have no plans for OC but I literally have the thermalright contact frame in the shopping cart as well, can't afford any extra Temperatures due to intel's poor design since I live in a hot weather country already.
I built my current rig in a Fractal Define 7 Compact, and building in that case was a true pleasure. It really helps you appreciate the luxury of high end cases.
Another awesome looking build. A customer I sent to your page has been collecting parts for a all white PC build. Thank You for having so much content! He has been able to choose all the parts based off of your videos.
Thanks a million for this build! I used it as the baseline for the machine I created this weekend. ProArt X790 and i9. Since it’s a spendy build, I opted for an RTX3060 2X w/12GB to get me started. I needed an Autodesk capable machine so I chose high CPU single-core speed as the priority. GPU was less of a need, so a modest RTX was perfect. Thankfully there’s room to improve that if needed. That double stack cooler just means I’ll have to be mindful of that. And thanks for the Whokeys discount. 😊
Thank you so much for these videos! I work in Nuke, Blender, Resolve, etc. and I love to see these performance tests, not just for gaming! Love your channel!!
Thank you for making this; I had many less issues fitting my 420mm Corsair AIO in push-pull into the case, and this video explains all the replies to my reddit post asking me to explain how to do it
Push/pull's level of effectiveness depends on the fin destiny and thickness of the rad. I don't know what the fin density of that rad is, but I'd say it's thick enough that it's going to be more than a 2 or 3 degree difference.
I really think that fractal should come up with an updated bracket design for this case. I was kinda stuck using a 360mm aio for this case since I didn't want to modify it.
I was a little surprised and disappointed with your thermal test results. Did you have a chance to test them again with a lower ambient temperature in the room?
Sweet build man! I hope to do a very similar build with the 13900k! I love how you set up the airflow and cooling in that Fractal case. I figured this Fractal case was only good for air cooling, but I think you mailed it with the 420 rad!
I'm building the exact same system today! I am using and RTX 3090 FE and 128gb Corsair Dominator DDR5 5600. Very excited to be able to edit 8K RAW from my Canon R5!.
Puget recently built me this identical system (Z690, 12900KS, 3090Ti, 128GB DDR5) apart from the SSD setup which is a bit different on ours, and it's also in a rack mount case. It's a beast, able to render Premier clips while compositing stills between Lightroom and Photoshop all at the same time. If anyone is wondering, I paid ~$9500 for Puget to build and optimize it, and they're great. I'm sure you could build one for quite a bit less than that yourself, but my business is busy enough that relying on a well-known firm like Puget to source, build, configure, and warranty everything for us is the way to go.
@Loud&Clear just out of curiosity - what cooling system did puget put into your setup? Was it the D15 or an AIO? Looking at building a similar system for my main workstation and would like to air cool (Noctua D15 or U12A), if possible. The 12900ks is a toasty boy for sure. Thanks!
@@AndrewOpila Noctua NH-U9S. It's noisy as hell (though it's probably all the rack case fans I'm hearing), but works well I suppose. My thermals are always well in line. Here's the complete build sheet: Platform Intel Core Z690 D5 4U Motherboard Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WiFi CPU Intel Core i9 12900KS 3.4GHz 16 Core 30MB 150W Ram 4x Kingston DDR5-4800 32GB Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 GAMING 24GB Open Air Sound Card Onboard Sound Networking Integrated WiFi+Bluetooth Storage Hard Drive Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Gen4 M.2 SSD Comments: Primary drive (OS, Programs). Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Gen4 M.2 SSD Comments: Secondary drive (Active Projects, Media Cache, Scratch). CD / DVD Asus 24x DVD-RW SATA (Black) Case / Cooling Case In Win R400-01N 8P 4U Rackmount Case Power Supply Super Flower LEADEX Platinum 850W CPU Cooling Noctua NH-U9S Software OS Windows 11 Pro 64-bit Accessories Accessories In Win SR1-23N Rackmount Rails (for 24-36-inch post spacing) Warranty Warranty: Lifetime Labor and Tech Support, 1 Year Parts Subtotal $7,991.26 Shipping $106.03 (UPS Ground 2 days) Tax $728.76 Tax Exempt? Total $8,826.05
@@loudandclearmedia Thanks for sharing, much appreciated. Happy to hear (pun intended) that you've tamed the 12900ks with air cooling. That's a sick build, I bet it chews through your workloads. I'll share my build once I get it up & running, its almost identical. Went with the U12A for ram clearance and as many case fans as I can fit into a Fractal Torrent.
Trying to work with Puget Systems now for a creative build. Great reputation but after pricing out components, are their builds really worth approx. 4K in labor? I wonder if you had the time would you have built it yourself.
I have already built PC after your 12900K Build, with the Phanteks P600. I used: Case: Phanteks P600 CPU: I9-12900KS Mainboard: Asus Hero Z690 it is very close to the Pro Art one and also has the Quickcharge for the Front Panel. Liquid Freezer II 420mm with Push-Pull Config (6 Fans), barely fits in, but it fits. 128GB Kingston Fury without RGB Header, rated at 5600Mhz, but only running at 4000Mhz. 3x Kingston fury Beast SSD, each with 2TB and 7000MB/s Read and Write Speed. 1x Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti Asus Thor 1200W PSU 3 Extra 140mm Case Fans. I realized that the most stable BIOS for me is tie 1501, the 1601 and 1701 gave me some issue i didnt have before. Cinebench: Single Core average of 3 is at: 2097 Points Multi Core average of 3 is at: 28955 Points Only in Benchmarks, my PC has noticable Thermal Throttling. When working with it, I cant realize the Thermal Throttling or better said it just doenst get that hot. I am using the Washermod at the Moment, the Thermal Right Frame, caused some RAM Issues and Blue Screens, not sure if I give another Frame a try or simply let it be.
I’m a creator and am building something very similar. I’m using the AM5, Ryzen 9 7950x, 3090 Ti, 128 GB DDR5 Dominator, with a custom loop (push/pull) that’ll cool the CPU & GPU. Going to base everything on a ROG Crosshair 670E Hero. Regarding the custom loop, I’m actually considering cooling the motherboard components surrounding the CPU with a single water block the flow then moves into the GPU… then it will enter the rad (420mm) for exchange…
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Nice build, thanks for the video and congrats on the 100K Subs, well deserved. I'm actually playing with an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 ARGB with 12900K in a Phanteks P600s case (seems to fit the 420 AIO with Push Pull easier than the Fractal case) and just something to help out anyone who has a similar issue with fans grazing the radiator after turning them around, I actually managed to use the radiator washers between the reversed fans and radiator to eliminate the grinding. It's takes a bit of fiddling but it works. I will be testing with the 12900K, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 ARG in Phanteks P600s case with lots of fan variations, will post the video soon. Thanks again, all the best. TK 🙂.
No money no obstacle..... Building a EKWB Blocked build right now. My specs: Lian Li 011 D XL (White) ROG Certified, Asus Z690 Formula, Asus TUF OC 3090TI, i9 12900k, DDR5 Corsair Dominator White 6200mhz 64gb, Corsair 2TB Gen 4 MP600, Corsair 360 XR5 Rads in White upper/lower, Front Distro Plate, Asus ROG Thor 1000w PSU, Lian Li Triple 8pin and 24pin Strimer Cables, 10 Corsair QL120mm Fans in White with a Commander Pro with 12mm OD Satin Finished Tubing, unsure of fitting color just yet, but gonna rock Corsair for those as the Ekwb fittings are too bulky to my liking.
Another GREAT VIDEO! Why did you decide to go with the Fractal Torrent Case when the Phanteks Eclipse P600S fit everything in so nicely with no cutting and sawing in your previous build? Will the current build work in the Phanteks Eclipse P600S? Give me a reason to change my mind and I will break out my saw! Also for DDR5 RAM, Samsung 990 or Seagate Firecuda or Kingston Fury? Choosing for quality. Two sticks totaling 64GB would do, but 4 sticks totaling 128GB would REALLY DO!
For DaVinci Resolve, which I believe you use, I would still go Gen 4 for the SSD used for the cache. When caching is enabled, DR will hit that all the time. It may actually be more important that your project drive being Gen 4, but I wouldn't skimp on that either. Thanks for the video.
My build is an i9 12900K asus rog formula z690 motherboard, corsair dominator 128GB 5600hz white, RTX 3080Ti, 6TB of SSD on motherboard with an external drive of 14TB. All in a Corsair 5000x case. liquid cooled as well.
I have a Asus ROG Maximus z690 Hero, 12900k OC 5.4 MHz P core & 4.0 MHz E core 128GB DDR5 @ 4600 MHz RTX 3080 12GB and RTX 2080 Ti, 4-2TB WD SN850 M.2 gen 4SSD & 1-2TB Sabrant Rocket M.2 SSD gen 3, Seasonic Prime 1300W Platinum. I built this June 2022 it is a beast and is super stable.
Will that 420 cooler work in the Phanteks p600s that you used in an earlier build? I was going to try the Rug strix lc ii 360, but I may want to go with a 420. I like this build. Great video.
I am going to build a system based on 7950X and I need 128GB of ram. I've noticed that they don't exist ram kits of 128GB yet!?!? Pair 4 x 32 banks may be risky at higher speed as people say on internet that there is a high possibility for instability! Is it true at the end? Is the only safe solution to bring the speed at 3600? How is your ram working at the end? Thanks!
6:40 Projects usually don't take much space, they are more like documents; unless you save the media with the project. I personally keep separate Media and Output drives.
Well this is very similar to what I’m looking to build! Two questions, does the pro art motherboard have a optical audio out? And is 128gb or ram stable without too much work as long as Xmp isn’t utilized?
Hi Shivaess, The Asus Hero Z690 pro, has an optical port and it also runs the 128GB stable, 4 Slots just doesnt support any XMP Profiles, so it runs at 4000Mhz. The Hero has only a disadvantage compared to the Pro Art, regarding the LAN connetions. This is my answer above, that is what I have build together. The Cost was at around 8101€ when I Build the PC in April this year. I used: Case: Phanteks P600 CPU: I9-12900KS Mainboard: Asus Hero Z690 it is very close to the Pro Art one and also has the Quickcharge for the Front Panel. Liquid Freezer II 420mm with Push-Pull Config (6 Fans), barely fits in, but it fits. 128GB Kingston Fury without RGB Header, rated at 5600Mhz, but only running at 4000Mhz. 3x Kingston fury Beast SSD, each with 2TB and 7000MB/s Read and Write Speed. 1x Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti Asus Thor 1200W PSU 3 Extra 140mm Case Fans. I realized that the most stable BIOS for me is tie 1501, the 1601 and 1701 gave me some issue i didnt have before. Cinebench: Single Core average of 3 is at: 2097 Points Multi Core average of 3 is at: 28955 Points Only in Benchmarks, my PC has noticable Thermal Throttling. When working with it, I cant realize the Thermal Throttling or better said it just doenst get that hot. I am using the Washermod at the Moment, the Thermal Right Frame, caused some RAM Issues and Blue Screens, not sure if I give another Frame a try or simply let it be.
If you used 4 of the Noctua NF-A12x15’s along with the regular artic fans that come with the aio, would you still need to modify the case bracket? Also would the newer Intel cpu bracket from thermal grizzly lower the thermals on the 12900KS? Awesome stuff as always ❤
Why don't you run all the projects SSDs in raid 0? Btw amazing PC, my whole config is just the price of that 3090 ti (and it's still capable to play every new AAA game in 1080p over 100fps).
Recently built a PC with those Samsung SSD (1TB and 2TB 980 pro) It was my understanding that the 2TB was slightly faster than the 1TB version for technical reasons I don't remember but I installed the OS on the 2TB one and installed it in the CPU SSD slot on my MB. Has anyone else heard that the 2TB was faster than 1TB version of those 980 pro Samsung SSD? Great video amazing build btw ! love the ambiance idk how to say but your videos are more comfy / chill than other tech youtubers like JZ2c or LTT or GN
I actually used this case on push and pull configuration, but the fans are using the front of the case as exhaust and I think it's better for the motherboard vrm s and GPU temperatures. What do you think? Can you test this?
10:38 So, first you remove the heat from the CPU, then you push it back to the case, and then you remove all that heat (you just removed from the CPU and pushed back to the case) with the back fans, right? Makes sense.
The light blue vibe is awesome love it... tronesque... Not too much rgb just enough. And wow.. so satisfying to watch at work. So quiet... Can't imagine with a noctua 3090TI if Asus made it :p A stealth edition ^^
Well... it's not actually ideal. The PSU fan will still spin louder than it normally would obviously. Most people who know what they're doing build around NOISE optimization. The best way to have a PSU in a case is to have no real major thermal interaction with the case. So suck in cool air from outside the case and exhaust it directly. So keep the PSU on the bottom and have fans on the top and top/rear. Frankly, SIDE FANS seem to have gone away but they're actually more optimal than the solid side panels. You always want heat exhausted as close to the source as possible.... I did an experiment and blocked the side fan mount and GPU temperatures went up a lot (everything set to constant RPM/performance). I didn't even have a fan there but the heat was pouring out... all these extra fans are trying to brute-force a mediocre case design. Oh, it's on the high-end of what we have now but if you really designed for optimal cooling and minimum noise you'd make changes.
@@photonboy999 I prefer the fractal torrent over other cases for cooling, power supplies do not make much noise at all when compared to case fans, gpu fans and cpu fans, the fan in the power supply looses some of its sound because it is in a case in a case. But to each his own, I also prefer the ease of running power supply cables down with gravity rather than up to components. To each his own. I also prefer the idea of having 3 fans at the bottom pulling cool up air up directly to the graphics card, some of this potential airflow is block by a power supply at the bottom.
Great presentation thanks a lot! I am still very confused about the push pull set up tho... Aren't you just pushing tons of hot air straight back INTO the case with your set up?? Shouldn't you expel that air OUT? It looks like your will literally be blowing hot air onto your GPU and everything else aren't you??
Actually that's not true... The radiator is not that hot and what you push in is much cooler than the inside case air so it's completely fine. there will be some hot spots on the rad, but most of it is much cooler than what's inside the case :) What you don't want to do is push the hot air from inside the case to the radiator which would just heat up the radiator...
I'm assembling a PC featuring an Intel i9-12900KS and an ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WiFi Il. Any suggestions for RAM compatibility, keeping in mind that I won't be overclocking? As for the choice of CPU, it was free, and I plan to upgrade to a 14th Gen CPU later on.
Like your videos, thanks for this build! I realized thag you are a huge fan of the Asus ProArt MoBo, just wondering if the Gigabyte Aorus Master may be the better choice due to the additional drive slots? Or is it because of the 2nd Ethernet controller that you prefer the Asus?
Hopefully now mobo manufacturers will list compatible 128gb DDR5 memory configurations and builders/retailers will start offering systems with it installed.
If the goal was to build a professional workstation you should have started out with an LGA4189 ( or LGA4677 in 2023 ) based motherboard with support for Quad-channel memory. 😉 + The Fractal Torrent is a great case optimized for Air-Cooling ( Btw. That's why the PSU goes in the top, just like in the old days. ) - Using a radiator in the front => The heat you're trying to remove gets blown into the case. 🤥 + Placing the radiator in the bottom blowing out, would be much more efficient. 👍 - Running the fans in push-pull cfg is nonsense! Why you ask? Because you cannot create significant low pressure using radial fans! They will probably just look like "higher resistance" seen from the pushing fans! Plus generate extra noise! 🙄
I run my setup with this case as well. Just stock case fans and no back fan which isn't needed at all. I capped the rotation speed of the fans to 50% and my cpu and gpu never go past 60c at full load and there's no noise.
What about building this system with dual graphics for animators using Maya or Blender or Houdini to do 4K work? ... 4:13 love the way you display the ram, ha ha ha ... nice touch!
Argus monitor is even better, albeit paid. You can use it to tell which fans to spin up under which conditions. It's so incredibly flexible. I made it so that my front case fans spin up when my GPU VRAM junction temp goes above 80*C (GDDR6X on the RTX 3090 is really hot!). You can preprogram up to 6 conditions per fan.
Fan Control is really good, but it does depend on separate software to actually be able to read the sensors for certain fans and components so it may not be fully compatible with your system. I'm currently using it to control my fans on a Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master motherboard and the software that Fan Control uses to read the speeds from and control the fans doesn't work correctly with one of the chipsets Gigabyte uses on this board, so one of my fans is basically nonexistent as far as Fan Control is concerned. Likewise I've heard that it can conflict with other programs that use the same software to read the sensors when they aren't set up to share the software with other programs, for instance I've heard that iCUE just doesn't work properly with Fan Control due to the fact that it's designed to take exclusive control over the software that both programs use to read the sensors for certain fans and components.
You can have all the fans on your front radiator but saying you are trying to push cold air in that way is nonsense. You will pull massive heat (especially with a 12900ks pulling around 200-250 watts at high load) from the radiator into the case, what's even worse is that a radiator takes much longer to cool down than an air tower so you will be dumping heat in for quite a while
This particular motherboard rather annoyingly lacks a s/pdif optical out which is ironic considering it's a content creator focused model. Of course it's an easily solved problem with a cheap internal or external sound card, but why would it be missing amongst all the other high-end features?
How are you using quad channel DDR5? I originally bought 4 sticks of 8GB DDR5, and had constant BSODs. After running a memtest, I found out I wasn't able to run quad channel and was only able to get dual channel running as this wasn't officially supported by Intel 12th gen from what I read. Some techs told me they were surprised I was even able to boot into the OS and play some games considering my configuration wasn't supported.
did you use the thermal paste that wason the cooler already, if you did remove and paste yourself that why the cpu temps run so high , mounting socket 1700 bend the ihs, need lot more paste than installed on the cooler from the star, i run the same chip in the same case a copy of this buld on a EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB and my temps do not go above 82 on the cpu, thanks for the build tips my look like this one exacly , but not a 3090ti a zotac 3080 amp halo in my case :) nice work doe
should've gone with a custom water soft tubing loop paired with the 180x360 rad in the front to keep these 180 mm fans. what other reason is there for this case? Also threadripper pro 5995WX would be balls to the wall, not that consumer Intel stuff. With this case you chould go bottom intake front rad outtake.
About the ram, did you ever get it to run ar 5200MHz? In the vid you showed us 4800mhz... Have you run a memtest86 at 4800mhz? Many of us with 128gb can't get anything about 4000mhz to run stable. Is your 4800mhz stable?
Were you able to get full speeds out of the 4 DDR5 sticks? I've seen mixed comments on DDR5 saying they're only working on 2 sticks or maxing out at 4000mhz etc. I'm looking to do DDR5 64gb so not sure to go 2x32 or 4x16
I'm new to your channel & like yur content & presentation style - congrats to you . Re: 128gb of ddr5 memory. Are you using 2 matching kits of 64gb or sourced a 128Gb kit ? I'm in Thailand and there are NO Proart creator motherboards here.. advertised anyway . Likely cause there are NO professional media creators here - locals at least, foreigners, more likely.. still unless we import, we cannot find..
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@@theTechNotice So what was the total cost of this PC?
@@theTechNotice I get the point why you do that, but did you think there's a way you can use this amount of ram on something? Isn't to much for video editing or music production? I mean a professional band lets say 5 instruments, voice and the chorus can do the job on 32gb no problem, event the videoclip with video in raw could be done with 64gb.
So if 64gb is faster by access timing cause just have to handle/locate half of the memory, did you think 128gb will pay off, I mean did you think you are going to be able to use more than 64gb in a real world job?
Can I ask how you plan to use it? Thanks
For anyone intrested in the Fractal Torrwnt case with the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420, it can fit in the case without modifcation if you mount it with the tubes at the bottom (which is actually better for the pump). However, this is not an option with all GPUs as the tubes will not reach with all GPUs.
Update: I have now installed an Arctic Liquid Freeze II 420 (with 6 fans pull/push) into the Fractal Torrent case. I did not need to cut the bottom fan brakcet down to make it fit. It was awkward and slow to get it in but now it's in and works perefectly with no case modifcation. The tubes are down and I have a ASUS RTX TUF 3090.
Thanks for the update brother
This is exactly the questions I have with this build, very helpful. Thanks
I just received the fractal torrent case and ordered the artic liquid cooler II 360 (planning to use it with the i7 13700k). Do you think I should return the case or the cooler? Or will everything still work/fit well?
@@OfficialGundem I think you should be fine with the Artic II 360 as that is physically smaller than the 420 which I managed to install.
I’d think 360 should go in nicely, just be patient and take your time. If it’s like the 420 install, it was a little frustrating but it does fit perfectly in the end.
If you, or anyone else here, would like I could post some pictures of my Artic 420 II install so you can have a look.
@@OfficialGundem how did you get on? Exact thing I’m looking to do
finally a mainstream youtuber addressing the very stupid issue of having to cut the bottom fan mount to install a 420mm rad. too many youtubers praised this case without noting any of its issues
Issue is with you trying to force water into aircooling intended case. You are killing the point of thes case by bloking front fans with anything.
@@filippetrovic845 agreed
would you have to cut the fan mount to put in the 360mm artic ii non rgb? I already ordered the case last week and ordered the cooler earlier today before seeing this...halp
@@OfficialGundem i think the 360 fits not the 420, i went with all air cooled for this case since its intended for such , with a 12900k
@@OfficialGundem 360 should fit ok. its just the bottom chin of 420mm rads that end up being too long and require modification.
I suggest changing the CPU socket to the Thermal Grizzly or Thermalright socket that prevents IHS bending - it's known to significantly reduce CPU temps in many cases.
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Im planning to get an i7-12700K this month hopefully when I find a good deal/price, I have no plans for OC but I literally have the thermalright contact frame in the shopping cart as well, can't afford any extra Temperatures due to intel's poor design since I live in a hot weather country already.
I built my current rig in a Fractal Define 7 Compact, and building in that case was a true pleasure. It really helps you appreciate the luxury of high end cases.
Now Im not sleeping tonight, this is just an absolute monstrous specs. Truely beautiful
Another awesome looking build. A customer I sent to your page has been collecting parts for a all white PC build. Thank You for having so much content! He has been able to choose all the parts based off of your videos.
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Thanks a million for this build! I used it as the baseline for the machine I created this weekend. ProArt X790 and i9. Since it’s a spendy build, I opted for an RTX3060 2X w/12GB to get me started. I needed an Autodesk capable machine so I chose high CPU single-core speed as the priority. GPU was less of a need, so a modest RTX was perfect. Thankfully there’s room to improve that if needed. That double stack cooler just means I’ll have to be mindful of that. And thanks for the Whokeys discount. 😊
Thank you so much for these videos! I work in Nuke, Blender, Resolve, etc. and I love to see these performance tests, not just for gaming! Love your channel!!
Thank you for making this; I had many less issues fitting my 420mm Corsair AIO in push-pull into the case, and this video explains all the replies to my reddit post asking me to explain how to do it
Push/pull's level of effectiveness depends on the fin destiny and thickness of the rad. I don't know what the fin density of that rad is, but I'd say it's thick enough that it's going to be more than a 2 or 3 degree difference.
I really think that fractal should come up with an updated bracket design for this case. I was kinda stuck using a 360mm aio for this case since I didn't want to modify it.
wait so the 360mm artic cooler ii will work in this case?
8:38 So money was an obstacle after all.😂
Congrats on hitting 100k
I was a little surprised and disappointed with your thermal test results. Did you have a chance to test them again with a lower ambient temperature in the room?
Sweet build man! I hope to do a very similar build with the 13900k! I love how you set up the airflow and cooling in that Fractal case. I figured this Fractal case was only good for air cooling, but I think you mailed it with the 420 rad!
I'm building the exact same system today! I am using and RTX 3090 FE and 128gb Corsair Dominator DDR5 5600. Very excited to be able to edit 8K RAW from my Canon R5!.
Holy shit, nice man! How much is it gonna cost you if I may ask?
bro dont buy 3090 ti wait a few months for 4090 or 7900xt
@@zenitsu6964 I've had this 3090 FE since it's release day. Not buying any GPU's any time soon.
You should buy a contact frame/anti-bend frame. Thermalright for example.
@@kristonurmik9235 that’s exactly what I did and used thermal grizzly paste with it.
Puget recently built me this identical system (Z690, 12900KS, 3090Ti, 128GB DDR5) apart from the SSD setup which is a bit different on ours, and it's also in a rack mount case. It's a beast, able to render Premier clips while compositing stills between Lightroom and Photoshop all at the same time. If anyone is wondering, I paid ~$9500 for Puget to build and optimize it, and they're great. I'm sure you could build one for quite a bit less than that yourself, but my business is busy enough that relying on a well-known firm like Puget to source, build, configure, and warranty everything for us is the way to go.
Thanks for that addition! Pugetsystems is awesome!
@Loud&Clear just out of curiosity - what cooling system did puget put into your setup? Was it the D15 or an AIO? Looking at building a similar system for my main workstation and would like to air cool (Noctua D15 or U12A), if possible. The 12900ks is a toasty boy for sure. Thanks!
@@AndrewOpila Noctua NH-U9S. It's noisy as hell (though it's probably all the rack case fans I'm hearing), but works well I suppose. My thermals are always well in line.
Here's the complete build sheet:
Platform
Intel Core Z690 D5 4U
Motherboard
Asus ProArt Z690-Creator WiFi
CPU
Intel Core i9 12900KS 3.4GHz 16 Core 30MB 150W
Ram
4x Kingston DDR5-4800 32GB
Video Card
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 GAMING 24GB Open Air
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Networking
Integrated WiFi+Bluetooth
Storage
Hard Drive
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Gen4 M.2 SSD
Comments: Primary drive (OS, Programs).
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Gen4 M.2 SSD
Comments: Secondary drive (Active Projects, Media Cache, Scratch).
CD / DVD
Asus 24x DVD-RW SATA (Black)
Case / Cooling
Case
In Win R400-01N 8P 4U Rackmount Case
Power Supply
Super Flower LEADEX Platinum 850W
CPU Cooling
Noctua NH-U9S
Software
OS
Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Accessories
Accessories
In Win SR1-23N Rackmount Rails (for 24-36-inch post spacing)
Warranty
Warranty: Lifetime Labor and Tech Support, 1 Year Parts
Subtotal
$7,991.26
Shipping
$106.03 (UPS Ground 2 days)
Tax
$728.76 Tax Exempt?
Total
$8,826.05
@@loudandclearmedia Thanks for sharing, much appreciated. Happy to hear (pun intended) that you've tamed the 12900ks with air cooling. That's a sick build, I bet it chews through your workloads. I'll share my build once I get it up & running, its almost identical. Went with the U12A for ram clearance and as many case fans as I can fit into a Fractal Torrent.
Trying to work with Puget Systems now for a creative build. Great reputation but after pricing out components, are their builds really worth approx. 4K in labor? I wonder if you had the time would you have built it yourself.
I have already built PC after your 12900K Build, with the Phanteks P600.
I used:
Case: Phanteks P600
CPU: I9-12900KS
Mainboard: Asus Hero Z690 it is very close to the Pro Art one and also has the Quickcharge for the Front Panel.
Liquid Freezer II 420mm with Push-Pull Config (6 Fans), barely fits in, but it fits.
128GB Kingston Fury without RGB Header, rated at 5600Mhz, but only running at 4000Mhz.
3x Kingston fury Beast SSD, each with 2TB and 7000MB/s Read and Write Speed.
1x Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti
Asus Thor 1200W PSU
3 Extra 140mm Case Fans.
I realized that the most stable BIOS for me is tie 1501, the 1601 and 1701 gave me some issue i didnt have before.
Cinebench:
Single Core average of 3 is at: 2097 Points
Multi Core average of 3 is at: 28955 Points
Only in Benchmarks, my PC has noticable Thermal Throttling.
When working with it, I cant realize the Thermal Throttling or better said it just doenst get that hot.
I am using the Washermod at the Moment, the Thermal Right Frame, caused some RAM Issues and Blue Screens, not sure if I give another Frame a try or simply let it be.
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉 for the 100k you deserve it
Congratulations on 100k subs!! ♥️👌
I’m a creator and am building something very similar. I’m using the AM5, Ryzen 9 7950x, 3090 Ti, 128 GB DDR5 Dominator, with a custom loop (push/pull) that’ll cool the CPU & GPU. Going to base everything on a ROG Crosshair 670E Hero.
Regarding the custom loop, I’m actually considering cooling the motherboard components surrounding the CPU with a single water block the flow then moves into the GPU… then it will enter the rad (420mm) for exchange…
Only thing i will add bruh, is a contact frame for CPU rather than stock ILM
That will increase cold plate to IHS contact and lower even more temps
Love this case. Air cooling is the way.
Happy 100k Subs!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Built it. Fantastic machine. Running a 420 AIO in push pull.
I don't have any word for your video ... Like nice video ... Knowledgeable video ... Your every single video is amazing ... Fully detailed video ... So I will do comment love from India ❤️❤️❤️
just built my 13900k with 4070ti kinda excited
i’m getting older and lazy yet interested in build one for me. Discipline and good FX makes me work
20:40, oh my lord, what a beast.
Nice build, thanks for the video and congrats on the 100K Subs, well deserved. I'm actually playing with an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 ARGB with 12900K in a Phanteks P600s case (seems to fit the 420 AIO with Push Pull easier than the Fractal case) and just something to help out anyone who has a similar issue with fans grazing the radiator after turning them around, I actually managed to use the radiator washers between the reversed fans and radiator to eliminate the grinding. It's takes a bit of fiddling but it works. I will be testing with the 12900K, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 ARG in Phanteks P600s case with lots of fan variations, will post the video soon. Thanks again, all the best. TK 🙂.
@E.I. Smyly yep already noticed that :). Really hope people aren't falling for these scams!
Again. Fantastic video. Thank you.
When I first saw the Liquid Freezer II I 100% hated how it looked... I now have one in my personal system and have zero regrets.
Great vid, wobbly table
Really like the Fractal Design Torrent case. I might get one in the future.
No money no obstacle..... Building a EKWB Blocked build right now. My specs: Lian Li 011 D XL (White) ROG Certified, Asus Z690 Formula, Asus TUF OC 3090TI, i9 12900k, DDR5 Corsair Dominator White 6200mhz 64gb, Corsair 2TB Gen 4 MP600, Corsair 360 XR5 Rads in White upper/lower, Front Distro Plate, Asus ROG Thor 1000w PSU, Lian Li Triple 8pin and 24pin Strimer Cables, 10 Corsair QL120mm Fans in White with a Commander Pro with 12mm OD Satin Finished Tubing, unsure of fitting color just yet, but gonna rock Corsair for those as the Ekwb fittings are too bulky to my liking.
Another GREAT VIDEO! Why did you decide to go with the Fractal Torrent Case when the Phanteks Eclipse P600S fit everything in so nicely with no cutting and sawing in your previous build? Will the current build work in the Phanteks Eclipse P600S? Give me a reason to change my mind and I will break out my saw! Also for DDR5 RAM, Samsung 990 or Seagate Firecuda or Kingston Fury? Choosing for quality. Two sticks totaling 64GB would do, but 4 sticks totaling 128GB would REALLY DO!
Nice video and the pc looks so good, i'm considering something similar for my next build.
100k subs congrats. keep it up man!
Its a realy good build for all different creators, Well Done. Only bios and some tweet for different programs.
Awesome built!
Congratulations for 100k
For DaVinci Resolve, which I believe you use, I would still go Gen 4 for the SSD used for the cache. When caching is enabled, DR will hit that all the time. It may actually be more important that your project drive being Gen 4, but I wouldn't skimp on that either. Thanks for the video.
That's what I noticed also... I just asked him to test this out in a video for us.
My build is an i9 12900K asus rog formula z690 motherboard, corsair dominator 128GB 5600hz white, RTX 3080Ti, 6TB of SSD on motherboard with an external drive of 14TB. All in a Corsair 5000x case. liquid cooled as well.
Great video!
I have a Asus ROG Maximus z690 Hero, 12900k OC 5.4 MHz P core & 4.0 MHz E core 128GB DDR5 @ 4600 MHz RTX 3080 12GB and RTX 2080 Ti, 4-2TB WD SN850 M.2 gen 4SSD & 1-2TB Sabrant Rocket M.2 SSD gen 3, Seasonic Prime 1300W Platinum. I built this June 2022 it is a beast and is super stable.
Will that 420 cooler work in the Phanteks p600s that you used in an earlier build? I was going to try the Rug strix lc ii 360, but I may want to go with a 420. I like this build. Great video.
My i9 12900k and i9 12900kf builds both have a NH-U15 which is fine except if you do synthetic benchmarks or attempt to overclock!
I am going to build a system based on 7950X and I need 128GB of ram. I've noticed that they don't exist ram kits of 128GB yet!?!? Pair 4 x 32 banks may be risky at higher speed as people say on internet that there is a high possibility for instability! Is it true at the end? Is the only safe solution to bring the speed at 3600? How is your ram working at the end? Thanks!
Hey! Congrats on 100k. Quick question. Could you build a 300 dolar Gaming PC? I need help finding one, and maybe a nice vid idea!
6:40 Projects usually don't take much space, they are more like documents; unless you save the media with the project. I personally keep separate Media and Output drives.
You are the man! What a masterpiece indeed! Thanks for the awesome video as always. Question: approx total price? :D
@E.I. Smyly and now there's two spam comments instead of one..
No idea about the price, since a lot of parts were on loan I didn't put the final price together.
@@theTechNotice Gotya! Thanks for the response anyway =) Keep up the mighty good work. I'm a fan!
Thank you
Thanks again sir
Well this is very similar to what I’m looking to build! Two questions, does the pro art motherboard have a optical audio out? And is 128gb or ram stable without too much work as long as Xmp isn’t utilized?
Hi Shivaess,
The Asus Hero Z690 pro, has an optical port and it also runs the 128GB stable, 4 Slots just doesnt support any XMP Profiles, so it runs at 4000Mhz.
The Hero has only a disadvantage compared to the Pro Art, regarding the LAN connetions.
This is my answer above, that is what I have build together.
The Cost was at around 8101€ when I Build the PC in April this year.
I used:
Case: Phanteks P600
CPU: I9-12900KS
Mainboard: Asus Hero Z690 it is very close to the Pro Art one and also has the Quickcharge for the Front Panel.
Liquid Freezer II 420mm with Push-Pull Config (6 Fans), barely fits in, but it fits.
128GB Kingston Fury without RGB Header, rated at 5600Mhz, but only running at 4000Mhz.
3x Kingston fury Beast SSD, each with 2TB and 7000MB/s Read and Write Speed.
1x Nvidia RTX 3090 Ti
Asus Thor 1200W PSU
3 Extra 140mm Case Fans.
I realized that the most stable BIOS for me is tie 1501, the 1601 and 1701 gave me some issue i didnt have before.
Cinebench:
Single Core average of 3 is at: 2097 Points
Multi Core average of 3 is at: 28955 Points
Only in Benchmarks, my PC has noticable Thermal Throttling.
When working with it, I cant realize the Thermal Throttling or better said it just doenst get that hot.
I am using the Washermod at the Moment, the Thermal Right Frame, caused some RAM Issues and Blue Screens, not sure if I give another Frame a try or simply let it be.
Why you never recommend Quadro cards ( or mulitple in one rig) for creator PC's? For serious rendering they are a must.
If you used 4 of the Noctua NF-A12x15’s along with the regular artic fans that come with the aio, would you still need to modify the case bracket?
Also would the newer Intel cpu bracket from thermal grizzly lower the thermals on the 12900KS?
Awesome stuff as always ❤
Why don't you run all the projects SSDs in raid 0?
Btw amazing PC, my whole config is just the price of that 3090 ti (and it's still capable to play every new AAA game in 1080p over 100fps).
Recently built a PC with those Samsung SSD (1TB and 2TB 980 pro)
It was my understanding that the 2TB was slightly faster than the 1TB version for technical reasons I don't remember but I installed the OS on the 2TB one and installed it in the CPU SSD slot on my MB. Has anyone else heard that the 2TB was faster than 1TB version of those 980 pro Samsung SSD?
Great video amazing build btw ! love the ambiance idk how to say but your videos are more comfy / chill than other tech youtubers like JZ2c or LTT or GN
Their both rated for 7000mb read and writes. You’re the first I’ve ever heard of. Only difference is is storage size.
2TB Model does have more DDR4 RAM/bandwidth as cache in it's memory controller.
I actually used this case on push and pull configuration, but the fans are using the front of the case as exhaust and I think it's better for the motherboard vrm s and GPU temperatures. What do you think? Can you test this?
Gaming benchmark would be nice yeah
10:38 So, first you remove the heat from the CPU, then you push it back to the case, and then you remove all that heat (you just removed from the CPU and pushed back to the case) with the back fans, right?
Makes sense.
The light blue vibe is awesome love it... tronesque... Not too much rgb just enough. And wow.. so satisfying to watch at work. So quiet... Can't imagine with a noctua 3090TI if Asus made it :p A stealth edition ^^
Great build, I still like the power supply at the top like the retro cases, it is free exhaust and power supplies can easily handle the heat.
Well... it's not actually ideal. The PSU fan will still spin louder than it normally would obviously. Most people who know what they're doing build around NOISE optimization. The best way to have a PSU in a case is to have no real major thermal interaction with the case. So suck in cool air from outside the case and exhaust it directly. So keep the PSU on the bottom and have fans on the top and top/rear. Frankly, SIDE FANS seem to have gone away but they're actually more optimal than the solid side panels. You always want heat exhausted as close to the source as possible.... I did an experiment and blocked the side fan mount and GPU temperatures went up a lot (everything set to constant RPM/performance). I didn't even have a fan there but the heat was pouring out... all these extra fans are trying to brute-force a mediocre case design. Oh, it's on the high-end of what we have now but if you really designed for optimal cooling and minimum noise you'd make changes.
@@photonboy999 I prefer the fractal torrent over other cases for cooling, power supplies do not make much noise at all when compared to case fans, gpu fans and cpu fans, the fan in the power supply looses some of its sound because it is in a case in a case. But to each his own, I also prefer the ease of running power supply cables down with gravity rather than up to components. To each his own. I also prefer the idea of having 3 fans at the bottom pulling cool up air up directly to the graphics card, some of this potential airflow is block by a power supply at the bottom.
Great presentation thanks a lot!
I am still very confused about the push pull set up tho... Aren't you just pushing tons of hot air straight back INTO the case with your set up?? Shouldn't you expel that air OUT? It looks like your will literally be blowing hot air onto your GPU and everything else aren't you??
Actually that's not true... The radiator is not that hot and what you push in is much cooler than the inside case air so it's completely fine. there will be some hot spots on the rad, but most of it is much cooler than what's inside the case :)
What you don't want to do is push the hot air from inside the case to the radiator which would just heat up the radiator...
I'm assembling a PC featuring an Intel i9-12900KS and an ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E
Gaming WiFi Il. Any suggestions for RAM compatibility, keeping in mind that I won't be overclocking? As for the choice of CPU, it was free, and I plan to upgrade to a 14th Gen CPU later on.
Like your videos, thanks for this build!
I realized thag you are a huge fan of the Asus ProArt MoBo, just wondering if the Gigabyte Aorus Master may be the better choice due to the additional drive slots? Or is it because of the 2nd Ethernet controller that you prefer the Asus?
For me 10GBe as a creator is a huge thing :)
@@theTechNotice just wondering because the Aorus Master has 10GB, too. But only 1 Ethernet Port. Looking forward to the next build 😉👍
The score is lower not because of the thing in background, is the thermal trottling, hwinfo is telling you that, 100 degrees all the bench
Hopefully now mobo manufacturers will list compatible 128gb DDR5 memory configurations and builders/retailers will start offering systems with it installed.
If the goal was to build a professional workstation you should have started out with an LGA4189 ( or LGA4677 in 2023 ) based motherboard with support for Quad-channel memory. 😉
+ The Fractal Torrent is a great case optimized for Air-Cooling ( Btw. That's why the PSU goes in the top, just like in the old days. )
- Using a radiator in the front => The heat you're trying to remove gets blown into the case. 🤥
+ Placing the radiator in the bottom blowing out, would be much more efficient. 👍
- Running the fans in push-pull cfg is nonsense! Why you ask? Because you cannot create significant low pressure using radial fans! They will probably just look like "higher resistance" seen from the pushing fans! Plus generate extra noise! 🙄
Very nice! Would still like to see your cable management. Look forward to the follow ups.
I run my setup with this case as well. Just stock case fans and no back fan which isn't needed at all. I capped the rotation speed of the fans to 50% and my cpu and gpu never go past 60c at full load and there's no noise.
I have watched your every single video ❤️❤️❤️
What about building this system with dual graphics for animators using Maya or Blender or Houdini to do 4K work? ... 4:13 love the way you display the ram, ha ha ha ... nice touch!
Hey Tech Notice,
The free program "Fan Control" has really great options for controlling case fans based on CPU or GPU temperatures.
Argus monitor is even better, albeit paid. You can use it to tell which fans to spin up under which conditions. It's so incredibly flexible. I made it so that my front case fans spin up when my GPU VRAM junction temp goes above 80*C (GDDR6X on the RTX 3090 is really hot!). You can preprogram up to 6 conditions per fan.
Fan Control is really good, but it does depend on separate software to actually be able to read the sensors for certain fans and components so it may not be fully compatible with your system. I'm currently using it to control my fans on a Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master motherboard and the software that Fan Control uses to read the speeds from and control the fans doesn't work correctly with one of the chipsets Gigabyte uses on this board, so one of my fans is basically nonexistent as far as Fan Control is concerned.
Likewise I've heard that it can conflict with other programs that use the same software to read the sensors when they aren't set up to share the software with other programs, for instance I've heard that iCUE just doesn't work properly with Fan Control due to the fact that it's designed to take exclusive control over the software that both programs use to read the sensors for certain fans and components.
You can have all the fans on your front radiator but saying you are trying to push cold air in that way is nonsense. You will pull massive heat (especially with a 12900ks pulling around 200-250 watts at high load) from the radiator into the case, what's even worse is that a radiator takes much longer to cool down than an air tower so you will be dumping heat in for quite a while
Cool and very interesting 🙂
all these ppl with insane builds and me sitting here barely running the video at 1080p XD
Muy buenos tus videos!
Siempre aprendo muchisimo. Te quiero consultar, la RTX 3070Ti .... tiene tecnología Nvenc??
Every nvedia card has from 1600 series and onwards
I really appreciate these videos man 🔥 which CPU would you recommend for 6k red raw and above?
Probably at the moment ryzen 5950x or the upcoming 7950x
@@theTechNotice thanks man! I'm definitely looking forward to your review on it.
Another very interesting video would be trying do air cool this PC 😁
So cool! What do you recommend for cpu when doing a lot of 8k raw? Thanks
Ryzen 5950x or threadripper!
This particular motherboard rather annoyingly lacks a s/pdif optical out which is ironic considering it's a content creator focused model. Of course it's an easily solved problem with a cheap internal or external sound card, but why would it be missing amongst all the other high-end features?
How are you using quad channel DDR5? I originally bought 4 sticks of 8GB DDR5, and had constant BSODs. After running a memtest, I found out I wasn't able to run quad channel and was only able to get dual channel running as this wasn't officially supported by Intel 12th gen from what I read. Some techs told me they were surprised I was even able to boot into the OS and play some games considering my configuration wasn't supported.
How much did it cost to build the pc with components?
10/10 Flex!!!
*Droooooooooooool!*
did you use the thermal paste that wason the cooler already, if you did remove and paste yourself that why the cpu temps run so high , mounting socket 1700 bend the ihs, need lot more paste than installed on the cooler from the star, i run the same chip in the same case a copy of this buld on a EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB and my temps do not go above 82 on the cpu, thanks for the build tips my look like this one exacly , but not a 3090ti a zotac 3080 amp halo in my case :) nice work doe
should've gone with a custom water soft tubing loop paired with the 180x360 rad in the front to keep these 180 mm fans. what other reason is there for this case? Also threadripper pro 5995WX would be balls to the wall, not that consumer Intel stuff. With this case you chould go bottom intake front rad outtake.
Well this 12900ks will beat it in many tasks too, especially the single threaded ones.
When money is not an obstacle, pcie lanes are the first thing to upgrade. :D
About the ram, did you ever get it to run ar 5200MHz? In the vid you showed us 4800mhz... Have you run a memtest86 at 4800mhz? Many of us with 128gb can't get anything about 4000mhz to run stable. Is your 4800mhz stable?
Which 180 mm fans are you recommending for the bottom of the case?
Hi, Can the NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm RGB AIO Cooler properly cool the i9 12900KS?
"It's really really hot in this room at the moment. It's 29 degrees Celsius ambient temperature."
why did you plug in the other PSU cables? when u just bought the other better-looking cables from cable mod, and didn't plug them in?
I have a 12900k with ddr4 when you said around 27:00 the performance, what were you talking about?
Just wondering, why did you choose ARCTIC P14 PWM PST A-RGB 0dB instead of Phanteks T30?
why do you need 128GB of ddr5? is there something to do on a PC that’ll put all that ram to use?
Photo and video editing ;)
Were you able to get full speeds out of the 4 DDR5 sticks? I've seen mixed comments on DDR5 saying they're only working on 2 sticks or maxing out at 4000mhz etc. I'm looking to do DDR5 64gb so not sure to go 2x32 or 4x16
No XMP will work with 4 sticks :( that's the short answer.
I'm new to your channel & like yur content & presentation style - congrats to you .
Re: 128gb of ddr5 memory. Are you using 2 matching kits of 64gb or sourced a 128Gb kit ?
I'm in Thailand and there are NO Proart creator motherboards here.. advertised anyway . Likely cause there are NO professional media creators here - locals at least, foreigners, more likely.. still unless we import, we cannot find..