I think if you intend to ride a bike regularly, it's definitely worth it to spend as much as you can on a bike, however it's definitely true that you don't need super high end components
@Bebo To me uneducated 1/8 and 3/32 chains have same amount of material at joint points, narrow chain just has more lateral flex to shift better. I can't see how 1/8 chain would withstand track stand better. I guess it's all about material and tech - quality narrow multi-speed chain will hold for much longer than cheaply made 1/8 chain.
As a way to try fixed gear, I bought a cheap but run down bike from fb marketplace. A few parts, spray paint and some elbow grease and I'm ridin fixed (and lovin it btw) for sub £150 😎
Some may say I spent “too much”, but I really like every I’ve changed/added to my fixed gear. I got some Cinelli items, because I like them. Got really nice Fabric (brand) grips, paired with Hope bar ends. Recently got some Pirelli P Zero tires. Nice Izumi chain goes with some expensive Silca Secret formula chain lube and an Omni Racer Ti Ceramic bottom bracket, for a ridiculously smooth pedaling experience. To me, all worth it.
I enjoy my Decathlon Elops,cost only£250.Have bought a few extras for it,then you see a nice track pump,bike stand,jacket.....you get the idea!But you know what,I get out on it and have had some great memories and you cant out a price on that....
Nah not worth it for me. I still enjoy riding the $150 fixie i bought 10 years ago. I usually replace the tyres each year, i'm on my third seat and last year i replaced all the bearings and the chain for the first time. I find satisfaction in riding something that was cheap to buy, cheap to maintain and reliably gets me where i need to go.
@@johnnysilverhand6045 haha yeh i understand the allure of fancy bikes and parts. Before i had the cheap fixie i did have a nice $1000 fixie which i did enjoy but i also found it stressful to own as i was always scared of scratching or damaging it or someone stealing it. Then someone actually did steal it so i went the cheap route and i found i enjoyed it much more lol
Xmas is around the corner and my wallet decided to get me a new Engine 11 Vortex beige frame, Thomson seatpost, stem and seat clamp. I think its safe to say, another happy year of exploration, training and commuting ahead.
I do find it funny how the fixed gear “culture” seems to worry about what others think of their bikes more than other biking cultures… it’s antithetical to its origins. It’s fair to say anyone who got semi popular doing “Fixie Points” may tend to focus more on the aesthetic and “showiness” of their bike rather than it’s functionality. Not surprised at all to see your bike nearing $3000*. I’m not suggesting you don’t concern yourself with how your bike rides… I know you do, but you could have got there for far less $. *Don’t forget that you also likely have a bin of parts you’ve replaced or swapped out that you’ve had mounted at one time or another too.. are those in the calculation? Unless those were used when you built up bikes for friends and family that time?
There's a lot difference between cyclists who wear out themselves hunting rare and fancy parts for a bike and ones who wear out parts actually riding bike.
@Bebo All bolts titanium? I don't know, man. Titanium isn't as tensile as steel is. I guess swapping those crocodile tires for lighter would save more weight than Ti bolts.
One thing I will say is a 3k fixed gear has stuff on it that would cost 10k on a regular road bike, omniums are hundreds sure but price a brand new top end SRAM road crankset and begin to sweat
@@event4216 true but with track bikes there is very little deore XT floating around its either garbage or top flight samurai sword shit that will last you forever if you take care of it
@Bebo They shipped you bike welded to measure you provided? Not bad at all. I guess, it's crucial to order from right guys who do it all right. I've heard about someone who had to file a dropout to achieve correct wheel alignment and with Ti it wasn't a cake (as long as taking off material from new bike can be something to discuss). It's great to get properly built frame when supplier is literally on other side of planet.
I recently got back into cycling/biking whatever you want to say. Walked into a bike shop and got a big wheel bmx. I have 3 of those now and I’m fixing my old fixie bike up as well as turning my old trek from when I was 15, into a urban mtb dream. Anyhow, I totaled up my cost just one of my bikes to make check. 1750 on my bike… crazy haha
As someone who currently owns 10 bikes, one of them being a custom steel hardtail and another being a full carbon full suspension enduro bike, I really don't want to know how much I've spent on bikes. And I don't think I can it's been a few decades. At least I don't own a car and not a all my bikes are high end expensive builds.
I put a Campy Zonda wheel on the front, that I had in the cupboard, which would have been 270 if brought new. And I value my knees so it's on a 725 steel single speed.
Don’t ride fixed but I got a baller commuter bike, do I still get some cred? Yeah for sure, I got mid to high end components that are probably double the cost of the frame but man it’s a smooth and trouble free ride. Good components are worth the investment though in terms of reliability.
As any other hobby (this one differentiating by the fact it doubles as a useful commuter / investment), the best bang for your buck can quickly turn into a leisure expense just for the sake of it. Although neither are fixies, I've ridden a steel frame road bike I've built around an old hybrid cycle that had been given to me on the absolute budget, using old, cheap parts. Only very recently I've bought a proper fitting and "legit" road bike, though still fairly low-end and second-hand, and it shows just how poor my old one is, weighing almost double and the frame geometry being all wrong for my size and riding posture. It still served me just fine and would continue to, wouldn't it be for the mechanical issues beyond adjustment that made it too unreliable for commuting, which I hope to do. Despite all that, the new bike still sports low-end Microshift gearing and a steel fork, among other frugal aspects. This to say, while it can be fun to have fully custom bikes that certainly pay up in enjoyment, even the most basic, inexpensive stuff can work for you.
Sick. Rad you got that phil wood bb. For me dropping unnecessary $$ on my bike just makes me even more stoked to ride so it’s worth it, even if i’m always broke. I Havnt hit the $2k mark though. Yet.
One thing is that bombproof in track bikes exists at the midrange for the most part these days find me a tougher wheel then a set of velocitys and they cost half as much as Phil wood enves
Should I buy a wabi Special or Wabi thunder frame? I’m coming from a Kilo TT and Felt Brougham and I’ve been riding more as months go on and I’m ready for a nicer bike and frame that fits me better
Zach: Enjoy your ride and don't spend too much on bike. People: Yeah, but we still fancy parts you have. Zach: OK, I just did my job. Now you know and still want.
The total value of my bike is more or less 25k pesos, I Know it's cheap but here in the Philippines it's alot of money and it's enough to make me happy
Bought an Unknonw Singularity in 58 to replace the 6KU fixie I fell in love with cycling on. Not worth it as the reach and the stack make it too small for me ;( Weird as my 6KU barcelona is also a 58, different geometries I guess Any idea on how to make it fit ?
Tallied up my custom fixed gear bike - uh - wow - $1600 in mostly 2004 dollars ! Added a new bar & stem last year for $150 ... $1750. My car $25K. Nuff Said :)
Hey Zak, what spindle length did you need to go with on your PW BB for this build? I went with the PW pro JIS square taper BB on my keirin purple special, and with Andel classic track cranks retrogression recommended a 111mm spindle. Just curious what you had to use for yours. I've got a really insane build going on with this one and am excited to finish it up and send it your way. Thanks for all the vids man, peace and love from Ottawa.
Well you do need to exchange chain and cog every once in a while, so there's a maintenance cost to riding a (fixed gear)bike Oh and eventually bearings will wear out after a couple of years or so, depending on mileage
@psychoaiko666 it depends how much do you like to up keep the good condition of the bike. But yes it can vary. I'm glad you can keep low maintainance price. Cheers!
As bad as this all is a set of top flight i9 wheels for an MTB is half the cost of this bike. Thats before you get to the fork or frame or drive train.
It's not a lot for a bike, but spending over 50% of the out of pocket costs on contact points is insane. You spent over double what you spent on your wheelset and more than what your frameset cost on contact points. It's fine if you want to spend that kind of money, but don't pretend that other than the saddle, there are significant tangible benefits to spending that much. There are other components that'll get your body in similar positions for way less.
I should show this video to those who shame me for riding a bike in the bay area, it's expensive but I got some alloy, steel, carbon that will last a lifetime and no car saves me $$$
If you can find a $100 old rigid mtb you will be riding the most smiles per dollar bike in existence. Looking to buy a second one to remove all the gears on.
Thats what i love to do, find old bikes and convert them into roadworthy fixie's. Definitely brings a smile to my face when i'm out there on something i've resurrected with my own hands!
Cycling is a hobby for me and a purely recreational activity. I don't mind in the slightest and rather enjoy spending money on high quality, expensive bikes and components. I can afford them, within reason, and it doesn't hurt or effect anybody adversely. I certainly have to pay for things I don't enjoy like taxes, fees, alimony and the rest of it. I've never seen people get so angry about spending money on their hobby as in the cycling community. In reality, there are quality parts and components at every price range. If you don't want to pay $6000 for a near top-of-the line mountain bike you can get something nearly as capable for half of that...or even less. As a hobby, it doesn't have to be all about grimly searching for the cheapest parts and holding on to ancient bikes simply because you don't want to spend money. Conversely, looking for cheap parts and holding on to ancient bikes is also a legitimate part of the cycling hobby. Personally, my $6000 full-suspension mountain bike rides a lot better than the bargain basement full-suspension bike I rode 12 years ago. Is it worth the extra money? Absolutely. To me. Spend your money how you want to spend it. You know the old story which although a cliche now is still true...I know people who spend what I spend on bike for cigarettes and booze. From a dry economic viewpoint, the cost of any thing other than a bare bones commuter upon which you diligently suffer to and from work can never be justified. A $150 Walmart bike runs pretty well if you tune it up a bit and is more than enough for most people.
Every time you can feasibly send your dollars to ethical companies and or support local or smaller manufacturers is worth any premiums you can afford to pay.
the critical parts are those with bearings.....the cheap bearings wear out fast.... and you will be needing to tighten those parts all the time.....in short, just dont buy those walmart bikes that are around $100 .....LOL
2,6k$ for a fixed gear 😳 I mean it’s balling and probably rides like a dream. But god damn I thought about spending 1k on one and had to stop myself for now
I'd just drop $2K for a belt drive fixed gear bike. If I spend such amount on very basic bicycle at least I would free up my time by not having to clean chain, especially after wet rides.
Haven't followed on how split belt system does. I know Gates BDS works on city bikes, on MTB and word tourer bikes. I got impression belt system needs stiff frame, rear triangle especially to maintain beltline - to keep belt from jumping off and wearing evenly. That's why most of frames with split seatstay or dropout are aluminium ones, I guess. Would be interesting to know how well people have done steel bike conversions.
@Bebo I'll fetch more first hand experience from users of split belt. It's just fact that Gates is very common and there's a lot of info on it. Idea of split belt is nice, though.
Agree with everything you said. I estimate my start-up cost on my first fixie, purchased 14 months ago to have been $1500-$1600. I estimate I've spent another $1000 changing things I didn't like and also making it meet it's intended purpose of being an actual track bike AND a fixie. SO wheels, rings, and bars are swapped depending on use. (I really need to start taking 20 sec shots so I can send it to you for a bike check.) The bike is far less uniform than when I started, as it now has a mix of Miche (Cranks, rings, BB, Wheels, chain, cog, original seatpost), Deda (seatpost, stem, Pista bars {since sold}), Cinelli (seatpost-current), Selle San Marco (saddle), Origin-8 (seat clamp, headset, front brake, -27 stem), Fyxation (bullhorn commuter bars), Enve (fork), Look (spd pedals), and Easton (drop bars for track) parts.
Others spend 1000€+ for phones and they use it only for Facebook That is totally waste of money But up to 2000€ is a logical price for a really good bike I am still laughing to rodies that spend 7000€+ for a bike
Zack you don’t need to justify yourself with how much you spend on your bike. We all know how much this _subscription_ costs. I disagree with the “you don’t need expensive…” notion, to the extent of carbon products usually.
And if people did abandon their cars for bikes, the world would be a better and cleaner and more ecologically sound place. Global warming is real. Get out of your car. Ride your bike!
What I see often are really “baller” builds being sold or parted out. I think the reason for this are the people that get into the scene and build their bike to show how expensive their parts are instead of finding the ideal combination of parts that come together for a great riding experience. So you end up with a bunch of “trendy” builds that all have the same components. I don’t really give myself a budget, but I have a “threshold” of what is acceptable or logical to spend on a certain part. What is the return and mechanical complexity of the part that justifies a price? A chain should never exceed 60 or so, a saddle about 100, a chainring 60-80, seat post or stem 100-150, etc. $250 for Toshi straps is utterly unreasonable. There are certain prices that are just ridiculous. Cheers.
I think if you intend to ride a bike regularly, it's definitely worth it to spend as much as you can on a bike, however it's definitely true that you don't need super high end components
I only ride normally and not doing tricks so I just spent as little as possible but good components so yea
It’s equally, if not more important, to maintain any bike you ride with proper care and maintenance.
@Bebo To me uneducated 1/8 and 3/32 chains have same amount of material at joint points, narrow chain just has more lateral flex to shift better. I can't see how 1/8 chain would withstand track stand better. I guess it's all about material and tech - quality narrow multi-speed chain will hold for much longer than cheaply made 1/8 chain.
@Bebo Well, that sounds like "all men drive v8 and leave v6 for women"))
Especially with track bikes the more you street ride the more the components need to be overbuilt
Take that $2500 and divide it by the number of hours of enjoyment and I'm sure it's a good value!
It approaches infinity ♾ in my calculations
As a way to try fixed gear, I bought a cheap but run down bike from fb marketplace. A few parts, spray paint and some elbow grease and I'm ridin fixed (and lovin it btw) for sub £150 😎
Some may say I spent “too much”, but I really like every I’ve changed/added to my fixed gear. I got some Cinelli items, because I like them. Got really nice Fabric (brand) grips, paired with Hope bar ends. Recently got some Pirelli P Zero tires. Nice Izumi chain goes with some expensive Silca Secret formula chain lube and an Omni Racer Ti Ceramic bottom bracket, for a ridiculously smooth pedaling experience. To me, all worth it.
I enjoy my Decathlon Elops,cost only£250.Have bought a few extras for it,then you see a nice track pump,bike stand,jacket.....you get the idea!But you know what,I get out on it and have had some great memories and you cant out a price on that....
Half of the trips are
Nah not worth it for me. I still enjoy riding the $150 fixie i bought 10 years ago. I usually replace the tyres each year, i'm on my third seat and last year i replaced all the bearings and the chain for the first time. I find satisfaction in riding something that was cheap to buy, cheap to maintain and reliably gets me where i need to go.
Damn you really are Bruce Lee aren’t you? I never looked at it like that. Great outlook but I’m just too weak. I skipped many a meal for bikes parts
@@johnnysilverhand6045 haha yeh i understand the allure of fancy bikes and parts. Before i had the cheap fixie i did have a nice $1000 fixie which i did enjoy but i also found it stressful to own as i was always scared of scratching or damaging it or someone stealing it. Then someone actually did steal it so i went the cheap route and i found i enjoyed it much more lol
Sorry to hear it got stolen. Total bummer
Fixies are crazy. You can have some amazing trail bike with all this expensive components like brakes, air-fork, derailer for 1500 bucks.
@Bebo if you don’t mind me asking, what brand and model fixie is it?
Xmas is around the corner and my wallet decided to get me a new Engine 11 Vortex beige frame, Thomson seatpost, stem and seat clamp. I think its safe to say, another happy year of exploration, training and commuting ahead.
I do find it funny how the fixed gear “culture” seems to worry about what others think of their bikes more than other biking cultures… it’s antithetical to its origins.
It’s fair to say anyone who got semi popular doing “Fixie Points” may tend to focus more on the aesthetic and “showiness” of their bike rather than it’s functionality. Not surprised at all to see your bike nearing $3000*. I’m not suggesting you don’t concern yourself with how your bike rides… I know you do, but you could have got there for far less $.
*Don’t forget that you also likely have a bin of parts you’ve replaced or swapped out that you’ve had mounted at one time or another too.. are those in the calculation? Unless those were used when you built up bikes for friends and family that time?
There's a lot difference between cyclists who wear out themselves hunting rare and fancy parts for a bike and ones who wear out parts actually riding bike.
@Bebo All bolts titanium? I don't know, man. Titanium isn't as tensile as steel is. I guess swapping those crocodile tires for lighter would save more weight than Ti bolts.
One thing I will say is a 3k fixed gear has stuff on it that would cost 10k on a regular road bike, omniums are hundreds sure but price a brand new top end SRAM road crankset and begin to sweat
@@event4216 true but with track bikes there is very little deore XT floating around its either garbage or top flight samurai sword shit that will last you forever if you take care of it
@Bebo They shipped you bike welded to measure you provided? Not bad at all. I guess, it's crucial to order from right guys who do it all right. I've heard about someone who had to file a dropout to achieve correct wheel alignment and with Ti it wasn't a cake (as long as taking off material from new bike can be something to discuss). It's great to get properly built frame when supplier is literally on other side of planet.
I recently got back into cycling/biking whatever you want to say. Walked into a bike shop and got a big wheel bmx. I have 3 of those now and I’m fixing my old fixie bike up as well as turning my old trek from when I was 15, into a urban mtb dream. Anyhow, I totaled up my cost just one of my bikes to make check. 1750 on my bike… crazy haha
As someone who currently owns 10 bikes, one of them being a custom steel hardtail and another being a full carbon full suspension enduro bike, I really don't want to know how much I've spent on bikes. And I don't think I can it's been a few decades. At least I don't own a car and not a all my bikes are high end expensive builds.
I put a Campy Zonda wheel on the front, that I had in the cupboard, which would have been 270 if brought new. And I value my knees so it's on a 725 steel single speed.
The picture of the Surly box in an SUV should be captioned "Only acceptable reason to drive a car"
Happy 100k 🎉subs Zach
I’m afraid to add up what I’ve spent on my fixie, which I found on the sidewalk; had to replace everything but the frame.
Aventon - Leader - Throne - unknown
W/1 is the most reliable?
Don’t ride fixed but I got a baller commuter bike, do I still get some cred? Yeah for sure, I got mid to high end components that are probably double the cost of the frame but man it’s a smooth and trouble free ride. Good components are worth the investment though in terms of reliability.
As any other hobby (this one differentiating by the fact it doubles as a useful commuter / investment), the best bang for your buck can quickly turn into a leisure expense just for the sake of it. Although neither are fixies, I've ridden a steel frame road bike I've built around an old hybrid cycle that had been given to me on the absolute budget, using old, cheap parts. Only very recently I've bought a proper fitting and "legit" road bike, though still fairly low-end and second-hand, and it shows just how poor my old one is, weighing almost double and the frame geometry being all wrong for my size and riding posture. It still served me just fine and would continue to, wouldn't it be for the mechanical issues beyond adjustment that made it too unreliable for commuting, which I hope to do. Despite all that, the new bike still sports low-end Microshift gearing and a steel fork, among other frugal aspects. This to say, while it can be fun to have fully custom bikes that certainly pay up in enjoyment, even the most basic, inexpensive stuff can work for you.
There's an upcharge of $200-300 bucks same model same or similar specs from 2 years ago
Sick. Rad you got that phil wood bb. For me dropping unnecessary $$ on my bike just makes me even more stoked to ride so it’s worth it, even if i’m always broke. I Havnt hit the $2k mark though. Yet.
One thing is that bombproof in track bikes exists at the midrange for the most part these days find me a tougher wheel then a set of velocitys and they cost half as much as Phil wood enves
Not to mention special tools - that's a couple hundred more if you're getting in to building your own stuff and/or fixing up old bikes
Hi, can I use fixie crankset for 1x11 conversion?
Should I buy a wabi Special or Wabi thunder frame? I’m coming from a Kilo TT and Felt Brougham and I’ve been riding more as months go on and I’m ready for a nicer bike and frame that fits me better
Expensive bike is super worth it if you have the mula, cycling is my hobby and I do it almost everyday. My bike was around 15k usd
Found my raliegh flyer in a skip, sprayed and fixied, new bb, miche crank, bar, 50 quid all in
That chainring is so dope.
Zach: Enjoy your ride and don't spend too much on bike.
People: Yeah, but we still fancy parts you have.
Zach: OK, I just did my job. Now you know and still want.
The total value of my bike is more or less 25k pesos, I Know it's cheap but here in the Philippines it's alot of money and it's enough to make me happy
in the philippines thats actually a middle decent price not cheap and also not that high
25k should have got you a good quality bike, a cheap fixie would be half that price.
This vid got me calculating all ive spent on mine, im at 35k(700$-ish) now and i can say its totally worth
Bought an Unknonw Singularity in 58 to replace the 6KU fixie I fell in love with cycling on.
Not worth it as the reach and the stack make it too small for me ;(
Weird as my 6KU barcelona is also a 58, different geometries I guess
Any idea on how to make it fit ?
Raise the stem and add a longer stem
Tallied up my custom fixed gear bike - uh - wow - $1600 in mostly 2004 dollars ! Added a new bar & stem last year for $150 ... $1750. My car $25K. Nuff Said :)
Even renting a tourist bike is way cheaper than owning a car! I figure if I spend $3k on a bike and do like 3k miles on it, I am coming out ahead.
I think it still fine. Some buy more than the price of your bike but barely ride it.
Hey Zak, what spindle length did you need to go with on your PW BB for this build? I went with the PW pro JIS square taper BB on my keirin purple special, and with Andel classic track cranks retrogression recommended a 111mm spindle. Just curious what you had to use for yours. I've got a really insane build going on with this one and am excited to finish it up and send it your way. Thanks for all the vids man, peace and love from Ottawa.
Goddamn let me say I'm embarrassed spelling your name with a k lol
I bought Sugio 75s about 5 years ago they're double the price now
I’m too scared to know how much I spent on my bike, all I know is that it’s enough for me not to spend on anything for months
love the purple man!
Well you do need to exchange chain and cog every once in a while, so there's a maintenance cost to riding a (fixed gear)bike
Oh and eventually bearings will wear out after a couple of years or so, depending on mileage
Regular maintainance for bike costs around $200-300 a year. For a car you can spend this price for gas alone in a month🤷
@@LT-yz4we dude I'm not even anywhere near that with two bikes😅😅😅
@psychoaiko666 it depends how much do you like to up keep the good condition of the bike. But yes it can vary. I'm glad you can keep low maintainance price. Cheers!
My bike co op mks sylvan and beat up toshi doubles have been the best 35 bucks I've ever spent in my life
As bad as this all is a set of top flight i9 wheels for an MTB is half the cost of this bike. Thats before you get to the fork or frame or drive train.
man your fixie is damn cool, but I never expected it costs that much lol. If I had the money, i'd do the same ;) high quality bikes are the game
I'm glad you finally went brakeless. I was watching your videos back when you had that purple single speed
It's not a lot for a bike, but spending over 50% of the out of pocket costs on contact points is insane. You spent over double what you spent on your wheelset and more than what your frameset cost on contact points. It's fine if you want to spend that kind of money, but don't pretend that other than the saddle, there are significant tangible benefits to spending that much. There are other components that'll get your body in similar positions for way less.
The sub 15s are fuckin awesome wheels if your streets aren’t a moonscape, just a great deal and so fast
I should show this video to those who shame me for riding a bike in the bay area, it's expensive but I got some alloy, steel, carbon that will last a lifetime and no car saves me $$$
Tell your brand to make a track one
If you can find a $100 old rigid mtb you will be riding the most smiles per dollar bike in existence. Looking to buy a second one to remove all the gears on.
Thats what i love to do, find old bikes and convert them into roadworthy fixie's. Definitely brings a smile to my face when i'm out there on something i've resurrected with my own hands!
Don't remove the gears on bikes. MTB means you either go up mountains, or have a flaw of character.
@@cccpkingu Yeh I have an obsession with trying to remove gears from old bikes haha. I just love the simplicity and clean look of a singlespeed bike.
@Bebo Interesting, i've never encountered that yet although my frankenstein bikes are only used for recreational rides so that could be why.
@@leemanwrong Right on.
Yo Zach! Is your toe cage's size large?
Cycling is a hobby for me and a purely recreational activity. I don't mind in the slightest and rather enjoy spending money on high quality, expensive bikes and components. I can afford them, within reason, and it doesn't hurt or effect anybody adversely. I certainly have to pay for things I don't enjoy like taxes, fees, alimony and the rest of it. I've never seen people get so angry about spending money on their hobby as in the cycling community. In reality, there are quality parts and components at every price range. If you don't want to pay $6000 for a near top-of-the line mountain bike you can get something nearly as capable for half of that...or even less.
As a hobby, it doesn't have to be all about grimly searching for the cheapest parts and holding on to ancient bikes simply because you don't want to spend money. Conversely, looking for cheap parts and holding on to ancient bikes is also a legitimate part of the cycling hobby. Personally, my $6000 full-suspension mountain bike rides a lot better than the bargain basement full-suspension bike I rode 12 years ago. Is it worth the extra money? Absolutely. To me. Spend your money how you want to spend it. You know the old story which although a cliche now is still true...I know people who spend what I spend on bike for cigarettes and booze.
From a dry economic viewpoint, the cost of any thing other than a bare bones commuter upon which you diligently suffer to and from work can never be justified. A $150 Walmart bike runs pretty well if you tune it up a bit and is more than enough for most people.
I was pretty aware on how much I spent on my bike. It was a lot though
dam i want moosebars, been trying to get them for more than a year now.
Every time you can feasibly send your dollars to ethical companies and or support local or smaller manufacturers is worth any premiums you can afford to pay.
the critical parts are those with bearings.....the cheap bearings wear out fast.... and you will be needing to tighten those parts all the time.....in short, just dont buy those walmart bikes that are around $100 .....LOL
I don't want to know how much I've spent. I love my bike and that is all that matters.
Just buy second hand. Its hard to lose money if you get good parts. Maybe a new chain and tyre once in a while but that's about it
Practicality prevents me from doing such illogical money spending on bikes!
My friend got a new pickup for $25k, finally got tags for it after 2 years cuz couldn't afford it, and makes fun of me for spending $1200 on my bike 🤨
Hitting them with the low car propaganda. You love to see it
Bikes are amazing and they should be cheaper, until then, buy the one you want
I can get a bike just with that seat post
My fixie build is only 80dollars tops and i compete with other that have 1000dollars fixed
2,6k$ for a fixed gear 😳 I mean it’s balling and probably rides like a dream. But god damn I thought about spending 1k on one and had to stop myself for now
I'd just drop $2K for a belt drive fixed gear bike. If I spend such amount on very basic bicycle at least I would free up my time by not having to clean chain, especially after wet rides.
Haven't followed on how split belt system does. I know Gates BDS works on city bikes, on MTB and word tourer bikes. I got impression belt system needs stiff frame, rear triangle especially to maintain beltline - to keep belt from jumping off and wearing evenly. That's why most of frames with split seatstay or dropout are aluminium ones, I guess. Would be interesting to know how well people have done steel bike conversions.
@Bebo I'll fetch more first hand experience from users of split belt. It's just fact that Gates is very common and there's a lot of info on it. Idea of split belt is nice, though.
Just realized sinle-use rivets are needed to reinstall rear wheel. Must keep them stashed.
Eh idc I’ve had a 400 fixie to now 3k I love it the same but love the new one even more
My bikes >10k my car 4500 lmao.
100% with everything you said.
Agree with everything you said. I estimate my start-up cost on my first fixie, purchased 14 months ago to have been $1500-$1600. I estimate I've spent another $1000 changing things I didn't like and also making it meet it's intended purpose of being an actual track bike AND a fixie. SO wheels, rings, and bars are swapped depending on use. (I really need to start taking 20 sec shots so I can send it to you for a bike check.) The bike is far less uniform than when I started, as it now has a mix of Miche (Cranks, rings, BB, Wheels, chain, cog, original seatpost), Deda (seatpost, stem, Pista bars {since sold}), Cinelli (seatpost-current), Selle San Marco (saddle), Origin-8 (seat clamp, headset, front brake, -27 stem), Fyxation (bullhorn commuter bars), Enve (fork), Look (spd pedals), and Easton (drop bars for track) parts.
Ooohh boy my entire bike cost like 200 dolars
2 Years, 3K + 1K + 300, Im really fucked, over 4k...
My wheelset costs that much 🤣
track chain on a fixie. k.
me who only have $160 bike build
If you've spent 2500 why not spend 3 and have phil wood hubs
Well…i’m 3.8k deep now…someone send help…
need fixie points videos... :(
I mean it's a bike built for simplicity so why pay much for something simple
2.5k 😦
calculate how much I have spent on Cycling? No.
Hahahahaha I don't like to compute the cost of my bike becauseeeeeee yeah hahaha
my bike is worth 100$
Others spend 1000€+ for phones and they use it only for Facebook
That is totally waste of money
But up to 2000€ is a logical price for a really good bike
I am still laughing to rodies that spend 7000€+ for a bike
TL;DR
Yes
Zack you don’t need to justify yourself with how much you spend on your bike. We all know how much this _subscription_ costs. I disagree with the “you don’t need expensive…” notion, to the extent of carbon products usually.
‘sup?- great ~taek care-
I got my fixed gear for 250$ haha
900 bucks and it’s still garbage
3gs😅...😎
I always put it this way..
Instead of spending my time and money on drugs or alcohol I’d rather much spend time and money into my passionate hobby
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
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Nope 😂😂😂😂
And if people did abandon their cars for bikes, the world would be a better and cleaner and more ecologically sound place. Global warming is real. Get out of your car. Ride your bike!
nice
Still cheap compared to road bikes
What I see often are really “baller” builds being sold or parted out. I think the reason for this are the people that get into the scene and build their bike to show how expensive their parts are instead of finding the ideal combination of parts that come together for a great riding experience. So you end up with a bunch of “trendy” builds that all have the same components. I don’t really give myself a budget, but I have a “threshold” of what is acceptable or logical to spend on a certain part. What is the return and mechanical complexity of the part that justifies a price? A chain should never exceed 60 or so, a saddle about 100, a chainring 60-80, seat post or stem 100-150, etc. $250 for Toshi straps is utterly unreasonable. There are certain prices that are just ridiculous. Cheers.
i thought my custom bike would cost around 160 and actually it is 280. still in the 50% - 100% that Zach said.
More like 15%
@@nttt.. did you fail high school math? it’s 75% exactly
@@cleanname4439 he said his bike cost 200+ compare to Zach's bike which he spent 1400+....or did i misunderstood something
@@cleanname4439 if he spent 75% compared to Zach's bike he's would be spending around 1000+ on his custom bike....
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Spent 3k on my ebike. Worth every €. Was surprised your bike from 1920 costs that much. :D