The biggest problem is that if I play a character I like I just do 3 times less damage than meta players. This is just sucks. This makes my bones hurt on the inside.
@@Kyle81290 “can” doesn’t mean you always will but yes it definitely can do that. But I’m talking about what is more important to completing a map considering all types of accounts. And reality is that you don’t need 6* damage to perfect clear much of the content in the game. Except stuff like high risk CC
AK player and ex-game designer here: Powercreep is real, and powercreep is inevitable. Is it ignorable? To some extent, yes. Beating stages requires a combination of both strong operators and a good strategy. Many players like Dr. Silvergun regularly clear difficult stages with restrictions on their roster (Silvergun using 4* and below only; for reference the highest rarity is 6*). On the other hand, there's many people who have nearly every strong unit built but still need to consult guides. Why? Because they lack a strategy. Doesn't even need to be close to optimal, but it still is lacking. At the same time, AK has actual endgame content that has a very high ceiling (D15 IS). I can confirm that doing D15 for IS3 and IS4 without Mlynar (the current strongest DPS unit) was extremely difficult. This illustrates that as operator strength scales, so does the upper limit on difficulty. Whether it's affected the ability for newer players to beat stages on the lower end of difficulty (e.g. event stages with 1 6* core) is a bit less certain. Is it something worth getting worried about, even as a non-player of the hardest content available? To some extent, yes. In the end, repeated powercreep is usually a sign of not really caring about balance (whether it's because of a lack of good kit design inspiration, or just blatantly causing problems), or how desparate they are to make a quick buck. AK doesn't seem to be in the last situation, but stuff like "a lot of S1s being filler" and "degen s3 exists" are evidence for the former 2 cases. So even if you're not directly affected by powercreep (e.g. using a favourite character will be a clearly suboptimal decision), you are still affected by it indirectly. But if you are able to adapt, the biggest issue with powercreep is that the people desinging are resorting to it to push out stuff, and this doesn't seem to upset people that much.
Hasn’t skill 1 being filler been an issue for a years now. Anyways my issue isn’t the power level of operators (so long as they still release content that is fun or challenging). I’m still a lil suprised that they are just now releasing a unit on Walter’s power level after 5 years. Rather than the rate they are being released with in a 6 months span since Degen who is mylnar level.
i was fine with side-powercreep and direct powercreep to some degree if the newer ops doesn't better than old ops at everything but lately powercreep have been getting out off control with the introduction of texalter ,yalter , mlynah , .. on the global and some massive powercreep in CN server with degenbreacher and W Alter . Ark9 is a game fill with niche ops , that excess at doing something specific and yeah some meta ops tent to do multible thing better than the other but i cant stand this kind of direct powercreep that make an op infinite better than the older one in any circumstances(texalter and yato have fast redeploy time and dealing 2 billion more damage than everyone in the same class and even some other damage focus ops when suppo the weakness of the class is bad at dealing damage) and worse, remove any weakness of the entire class ( degenbreacher powercreep 99% of guard class by being tanky as a defender and dealing more damage than everyone else with none of their weakness), But the latest ops, W alter , OH W alter .... let's just say this for simple : she make EVERY SINGLE SNIPER irrelevant ( and sadly iam not exaggerate it), let just say a sniper that deal aoe damage , have one of the largest range of all op , have a skill that deal more damage per second and total damage than every other sniper and every guard that support to do more damage than sniper , have 3 mini tank that have more stat most defender that make her invisble forever and tank for her and she can make 2 more everytime she press the funny nuke skill that delete everything in her range , those mini tank also deal so much damage art damage offskill ( more than most caster) and you know what? , that isn't enough , the minitank also slow enemy hit by it , and all of this for a skill that rechange faster than most other skill 3 in the game , like what in the f*ck is this? W alter is so broken that she push EVERYONE , and i mean everyone in the entire game 2 tier bellow and sit the S+++++ tier with noone , noone even close to the tier below her ,this lever of powercreep have never been seen in the game before , she's on the same class as rosmotis , one of the weaker 6* ops . What i want to say is yeah , when powercreep is inevitable , ark9 is the game known for creative way to powercreep someone , this isn't the way , i know you are better than this HG
A video like this is a suprise, but a welcomed one at that. Glad your professional narrative not only used for showing "much deserved affection" to lolis but for more nuanced kind of topics as well shows that your skills are vast. In other words, That post-nut clarity hit you hard didn't it, lol.
In genshin, the affect of powercreep has gone down ever since Furina's release since she buffs 90% of the characters. Previously playing 4star niche dps felt horrible in the abyss but with Furina, I can reach 60k with them.
doesn't this validate his point about powercreep in the video? the fact that you need to pull for a character to play in a "sort of even field" is a band-aid fix to a problem that has to be addressed sooner or later, and for the people who couldnt get that character they would still be stuck in that "weaker than most" position
I have furina c2 , and she is the most broken buffer and sub dps at that point. She can almost make anyone deal mad damage and teams with her and neuvi wipe the abyss in seconds. I learnt my lesson after not saving for c2 nahida and raiden. Last few patches in sumeru , all I did was save for the archon because I knew they will be broken. I am going to do the same for natlan. Archons , harbingers or sovereigns are mostly likely gonna be insane buffers , have insane utility or have really unique kits dps / support wise. Saving for them will give a better experience overall. Especially archon c2s have insane value. They also launch when the anniversary bonuses reset. No wonder they go all out.
Will be honest of many Gachas Arknights somehow managed powercreep decently. Hell we are only getting op units like Walter and logos after 5 years. Though that’s partly due to maps becoming more gimmicky making big dps not being as important in most content. Also the amount of operators surprisingly allows for a lot of different teams and approaches
@@Sundilio Sort of depends on how you look at it if it’s purely just dps numbers then they gave up on balance and just let powercreep run rampant 2-3 years ago. To me the upcoming string of op and strong ops seem like they are just trying to up sales more. Also I don’t think we can hold gacha games to the typical standards of how games should be balanced (even if it’s good for the game) just because of their nature and audience.
@@2265Hello no, powercreep was fairly structured until recently. before, you’d typically get mid-decent operators being released and then an intentionally placed stronger operator. typically, right before or during a limited banner. but the last 6 months on cn have been completely stacked with top tier operators being released almost every update
I don't know if I look at powercreep the same as others do. I play both HSR and Arknights and I'm a player from release of both games. I'm sometimes a lose trigger and pull for characters that I just like. For example I really wanted Qiubai just because I like her ( I didn't know much about her kit I just like her). On her release I literally spent like 70+ pulls to get a dupe Penance (I missed Mueleyes, because of that). I usually just use characters that I like and are weaker in simple stages or just playing in IS or something and I use the powerfull meta units for hard clears. I would say pull for a character, that is powerful and useful right now. For example I got Typhon so Ray isn't useful enough to pull for. Then in some time when another even more broken character comes out that just means that your old OP character has done it's job and helped you advance forward and it will still continue to help in certain occasions. I used Myrtle + Bagpipe for so many of my stages before hitting lvl 100, but now I got Ines and use her together with Saileach or just any other vanguard. e.g I use Saga over any other 2 block vanguard, because she has a life shield like Blaze and can survive for longer. At the start of Arknights, Blaze was my carry operator. Now I would say Blaze did her job when I got her and used her, now she can have a long vacation until a situation where she can be of help comes (like AFK stages.)
Friendly reminder that gacha games balance the content around the strongest units so... Have fun with whatever monsters you get now that W alter exist.
It really does not help that Arknights's devs arent the most creative devs in the world, so AK powercreep just ends up either bigger numbers or utility spam without any downsides
First I will say does Shu not exist? Second weirdly enough their creativity seems to go to other areas ie map design enemy mechanics, art, character design, music etc. the gimmicky maps some how help balance things out with more op units too or at least normally
@@2265Hello they use their power budget on more basic and straightforward operators, but they’re a lot more experimental on operators that aren’t supposed to be very strong
@@Sundilio so in other words with the string of strong ops they are trying to sell more operators. Hopefully they cook something fun and challenging stage wise.
Spend 6 months for good operator- All I get is 5 stars and 1 skadi At this point, Is this game is a Chore or a "Game"? Due this reason. I stopped playing it. I stopped playing the game. And well I will try Endfield instead. Cus they also wont stop pumpin new characters to arknights. Like at this point which character is unique? So much characters to pull but sooo pity on currency. They give you almost notling. Genshin is... also chore but at least You just ... get around.. Look at new things... Arknights feels always same. At this point a big insult... Roblox games (Outside of Toilet Simulators) like Tower Defence X, Tower Blitz is doing better in gameplay case. Its a basic type of tower defence games that isnt a scam. At least your grind feels good. Here is a TIP. Gacha games are arent good at all if you wanna progress. Maybe few games good at it. Maybe Nikke (goddess of victory) but Its just too lewd... Idk bout yalll...Im done with gacha games Its just endless chore at this point.
The biggest problem is that if I play a character I like I just do 3 times less damage than meta players. This is just sucks. This makes my bones hurt on the inside.
This is why I like Arknights, you can play the game however you like and still clear most of the content.
Also with how gimmicky maps are nowadays big dps matters less than strategy and versatility
that’s like most gacha games at this point
@@2265Hellobig dps allows you to skip said gimmicks
@@Kyle81290 “can” doesn’t mean you always will but yes it definitely can do that. But I’m talking about what is more important to completing a map considering all types of accounts. And reality is that you don’t need 6* damage to perfect clear much of the content in the game. Except stuff like high risk CC
People for get about limited special creep
A different problem, sadly,will never get fixed
AK player and ex-game designer here:
Powercreep is real, and powercreep is inevitable. Is it ignorable? To some extent, yes. Beating stages requires a combination of both strong operators and a good strategy. Many players like Dr. Silvergun regularly clear difficult stages with restrictions on their roster (Silvergun using 4* and below only; for reference the highest rarity is 6*). On the other hand, there's many people who have nearly every strong unit built but still need to consult guides. Why? Because they lack a strategy. Doesn't even need to be close to optimal, but it still is lacking.
At the same time, AK has actual endgame content that has a very high ceiling (D15 IS). I can confirm that doing D15 for IS3 and IS4 without Mlynar (the current strongest DPS unit) was extremely difficult. This illustrates that as operator strength scales, so does the upper limit on difficulty. Whether it's affected the ability for newer players to beat stages on the lower end of difficulty (e.g. event stages with 1 6* core) is a bit less certain.
Is it something worth getting worried about, even as a non-player of the hardest content available? To some extent, yes. In the end, repeated powercreep is usually a sign of not really caring about balance (whether it's because of a lack of good kit design inspiration, or just blatantly causing problems), or how desparate they are to make a quick buck. AK doesn't seem to be in the last situation, but stuff like "a lot of S1s being filler" and "degen s3 exists" are evidence for the former 2 cases.
So even if you're not directly affected by powercreep (e.g. using a favourite character will be a clearly suboptimal decision), you are still affected by it indirectly. But if you are able to adapt, the biggest issue with powercreep is that the people desinging are resorting to it to push out stuff, and this doesn't seem to upset people that much.
Hasn’t skill 1 being filler been an issue for a years now. Anyways my issue isn’t the power level of operators (so long as they still release content that is fun or challenging). I’m still a lil suprised that they are just now releasing a unit on Walter’s power level after 5 years. Rather than the rate they are being released with in a 6 months span since Degen who is mylnar level.
i was fine with side-powercreep and direct powercreep to some degree if the newer ops doesn't better than old ops at everything but lately powercreep have been getting out off control with the introduction of texalter ,yalter , mlynah , .. on the global and some massive powercreep in CN server with degenbreacher and W Alter . Ark9 is a game fill with niche ops , that excess at doing something specific and yeah some meta ops tent to do multible thing better than the other but i cant stand this kind of direct powercreep that make an op infinite better than the older one in any circumstances(texalter and yato have fast redeploy time and dealing 2 billion more damage than everyone in the same class and even some other damage focus ops when suppo the weakness of the class is bad at dealing damage) and worse, remove any weakness of the entire class ( degenbreacher powercreep 99% of guard class by being tanky as a defender and dealing more damage than everyone else with none of their weakness),
But the latest ops, W alter , OH W alter .... let's just say this for simple : she make EVERY SINGLE SNIPER irrelevant ( and sadly iam not exaggerate it), let just say a sniper that deal aoe damage , have one of the largest range of all op , have a skill that deal more damage per second and total damage than every other sniper and every guard that support to do more damage than sniper , have 3 mini tank that have more stat most defender that make her invisble forever and tank for her and she can make 2 more everytime she press the funny nuke skill that delete everything in her range , those mini tank also deal so much damage art damage offskill ( more than most caster) and you know what? , that isn't enough , the minitank also slow enemy hit by it , and all of this for a skill that rechange faster than most other skill 3 in the game , like what in the f*ck is this? W alter is so broken that she push EVERYONE , and i mean everyone in the entire game 2 tier bellow and sit the S+++++ tier with noone , noone even close to the tier below her ,this lever of powercreep have never been seen in the game before , she's on the same class as rosmotis , one of the weaker 6* ops .
What i want to say is yeah , when powercreep is inevitable , ark9 is the game known for creative way to powercreep someone , this isn't the way , i know you are better than this HG
A video like this is a suprise, but a welcomed one at that. Glad your professional narrative not only used for showing "much deserved affection" to lolis but for more nuanced kind of topics as well shows that your skills are vast.
In other words, That post-nut clarity hit you hard didn't it, lol.
This guys likes kids
@@Yoru958 what makes you suddenly say that
@@layonyatsu7203 idk just felt like it
Wait, is that...hat brat?!
@@layonyatsu7203it’s true
I don't bother pulling for chars that I don't like regardless of how strong they are.
In genshin, the affect of powercreep has gone down ever since Furina's release since she buffs 90% of the characters. Previously playing 4star niche dps felt horrible in the abyss but with Furina, I can reach 60k with them.
doesn't this validate his point about powercreep in the video? the fact that you need to pull for a character to play in a "sort of even field" is a band-aid fix to a problem that has to be addressed sooner or later, and for the people who couldnt get that character they would still be stuck in that "weaker than most" position
that’s just powercreep but for support
I have furina c2 , and she is the most broken buffer and sub dps at that point. She can almost make anyone deal mad damage and teams with her and neuvi wipe the abyss in seconds.
I learnt my lesson after not saving for c2 nahida and raiden. Last few patches in sumeru , all I did was save for the archon because I knew they will be broken. I am going to do the same for natlan.
Archons , harbingers or sovereigns are mostly likely gonna be insane buffers , have insane utility or have really unique kits dps / support wise. Saving for them will give a better experience overall.
Especially archon c2s have insane value. They also launch when the anniversary bonuses reset. No wonder they go all out.
Will be honest of many Gachas Arknights somehow managed powercreep decently. Hell we are only getting op units like Walter and logos after 5 years. Though that’s partly due to maps becoming more gimmicky making big dps not being as important in most content. Also the amount of operators surprisingly allows for a lot of different teams and approaches
overall, yes. recently, no
@@Sundilio Sort of depends on how you look at it if it’s purely just dps numbers then they gave up on balance and just let powercreep run rampant 2-3 years ago. To me the upcoming string of op and strong ops seem like they are just trying to up sales more. Also I don’t think we can hold gacha games to the typical standards of how games should be balanced (even if it’s good for the game) just because of their nature and audience.
@@2265Hello no, powercreep was fairly structured until recently. before, you’d typically get mid-decent operators being released and then an intentionally placed stronger operator. typically, right before or during a limited banner. but the last 6 months on cn have been completely stacked with top tier operators being released almost every update
I don't know if I look at powercreep the same as others do.
I play both HSR and Arknights and I'm a player from release of both games.
I'm sometimes a lose trigger and pull for characters that I just like.
For example I really wanted Qiubai just because I like her ( I didn't know much about her kit I just like her). On her release I literally spent like 70+ pulls to get a dupe Penance (I missed Mueleyes, because of that).
I usually just use characters that I like and are weaker in simple stages or just playing in IS or something and I use the powerfull meta units for hard clears.
I would say pull for a character, that is powerful and useful right now. For example I got Typhon so Ray isn't useful enough to pull for.
Then in some time when another even more broken character comes out that just means that your old OP character has done it's job and helped you advance forward and it will still continue to help in certain occasions.
I used Myrtle + Bagpipe for so many of my stages before hitting lvl 100, but now I got Ines and use her together with Saileach or just any other vanguard. e.g
I use Saga over any other 2 block vanguard, because she has a life shield like Blaze and can survive for longer.
At the start of Arknights, Blaze was my carry operator. Now I would say Blaze did her job when I got her and used her, now she can have a long vacation until a situation where she can be of help comes (like AFK stages.)
These unbuilt 6 stars are gonna make me creep on someone. (that came out worse then i thought)
*affects
Friendly reminder that gacha games balance the content around the strongest units so... Have fun with whatever monsters you get now that W alter exist.
The multi clear feature in AK has to be one of the most dogshit versions ever.
It really does not help that Arknights's devs arent the most creative devs in the world, so AK powercreep just ends up either bigger numbers or utility spam without any downsides
First I will say does Shu not exist? Second weirdly enough their creativity seems to go to other areas ie map design enemy mechanics, art, character design, music etc. the gimmicky maps some how help balance things out with more op units too or at least normally
they’re pretty creative, it just feels like they aren’t because they suck at balancing
@@Sundilio more like they are trying to sell more ops. Or they are cooking something
@@2265Hello they use their power budget on more basic and straightforward operators, but they’re a lot more experimental on operators that aren’t supposed to be very strong
@@Sundilio so in other words with the string of strong ops they are trying to sell more operators. Hopefully they cook something fun and challenging stage wise.
Spend 6 months for good operator-
All I get is 5 stars and 1 skadi
At this point, Is this game is a Chore or a "Game"?
Due this reason. I stopped playing it. I stopped playing the game. And well I will try Endfield instead. Cus they also wont stop pumpin new characters to arknights. Like at this point which character is unique? So much characters to pull but sooo pity on currency. They give you almost notling.
Genshin is... also chore but at least You just ... get around.. Look at new things... Arknights feels always same. At this point a big insult... Roblox games (Outside of Toilet Simulators) like Tower Defence X, Tower Blitz is doing better in gameplay case. Its a basic type of tower defence games that isnt a scam. At least your grind feels good.
Here is a TIP. Gacha games are arent good at all if you wanna progress. Maybe few games good at it. Maybe Nikke (goddess of victory) but Its just too lewd... Idk bout yalll...Im done with gacha games Its just endless chore at this point.
skill issuuue
It is a chore
Not gonna stop me from listening to that sweet sweet German every time I log into the game though