Is TOUHOU Music Actually TOO REPETITIVE? - The Gensokyo the Gods Loved
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2023
- I'm always amazed by how consistent and recognizable the style in the Touhou soundtrack is. Does that make Touhou music more addicting or more repetitive? Let's talk about it while we listen to the worderful The Gensokyo the Gods Loved from Touhou Mountain of Faith.
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Hey I have a bunch of other videos on Touhou music: ua-cam.com/video/DhdopiSqotU/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
can you do suwako's theme next? love your videos :)
Great video David, I like your music analysis, for someone who knows nothing about the subject you help us understand very well the enormous work of a video game music composer. I hope you take a look at the Soundtrack of Blasphemous 1 and 2, they are two soundtracks that deserve to be heard by everyone, I recommend "Taranto a la hermana mía", "Cante de muertos" and "Clavada".
@@tongkixyzもしかしてネイティブフェイスの事ですか？
平安のエイリアンを聴いてほしい
想像に世界を委ねてやってほしいです!
I think the beauty of the Touhou music is how well they lend themselves to covers of multiple genres, fueled by the creator gives individuals or fan groups full permission to remix, cover, etc. the songs as they please. I think of ZUN as preparing the canvas and the fans go crazy with creating the art.
That is a great way to think about it! What might sometimes be perceived as repetitiveness or blandness is actually Zun setting an archetype that fans can play around with. Thanks for watching, Gaijin!
@@DaviVasczun does this for all of touhou, so this is a correct conclusion
holy shoot wild Gaijin spotting! absolutely agree with your sentiment, the fans make some awesome stuff. I love Falkkone's metal remixes. Hope youre doing great my man
can''t believe I just found this guy in the wild, hope you're doing well
I just rewatched a couple of you mhw tutorial vids since I'm revisiting the game and was super rusty. Crazy to see you here lol.
Teacher: Today we're learning about music genres! So, what genres do you all know?
Student A: Pop
Student B: Rock n' Roll
Davi: _T o u h o u_
P.S. When you'll do another Touhou video, I recommend you listening to _Last Remote_ next. It has disturbing, beautiful and scary parts all in one song! And for once, NOT only Touhou-sequence spam.
Yes! Please do Last Remote
Agreed
Kishi
Broke Genre: Rock n' Roll
Woke Genre: Rock n' Rock n' Beat
Totally agree
_“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”_
That seems to be Zun's approach!
@@DaviVascI will say one thing, ZUN experiments more and more with his style in the later games! Almost all of the tracks you've listened to are from the older era of Touhou, usually games 6-11. Also, people tend to recommend the tracks that feel the most "Touhou"-like, so it's not surprising that all the ones you've analyzed so far sound about the same.
I'd list my recommendations, but a lot of others already have in the comments. It would be nice if you could try some pieces from the newer games, and hopefully you'll find more variety there!
@@DaviVasc I'll be interested in what you have to say about the use of erhu & possibly vocals in 'Deviants Obstructed Light' in the most recent game.
Aside from that there's also 'Newshound' from one of the spin offs which I find unique compared to most Touhou songs despite being released only a few years after the early windows games.
It utilizes rain at the start, then throughout there's rain at some parts more or less subtle but also 'echoing claps'.
Actually ZUN's style changed a lot throughout time, remember Touhou's been here since the 90s, and in the latest ones he experimented a lot, specially with Zanmu's theme
@@-butterfly-594The only song he's particularly liked so far is Reverse Ideology, that's 14 fairly recent
Yesn't..
The big issue is that if you just start to dabble in Touhou music, you often hear the same five, six, ten, twenty tracks that just happen to be evergreens, and a lot of them are older tracks where ZUN didn't yet have the sheer skill and feel for engaging compositions he does nowadays. For example, The Gensokyo the Gods Loved is more than a decade old, but compare it to, say, "Where is that Bustling Marketplace now?" and it's a world of a difference.
Marketplace is excellent but very specific...for people that did speculation. Like I did.
The music is up and down, with stress, hope (with vocals), then euphoria (main joyful melody), euphoria power x2 after (melody + insane piano), then stress/confusion where everything is mixed, stress amplify just after (very chaotic), and then the slow decent with the long vocals.
It's probably one of the one compo that mix both hope and despair at the same time. Like Chimata showing up and down.
Without any final end, no real "satisfaction", it's exactly this, it's scary how it is so on point honestly. It's 100% the mindset of any speculator at one point
I remember not really getting why people liked Where is that Bustling Marketplace. It took me several listenings to then make it one of my favorites, particularly because of the most energetic part in the second half errupting right after the relatively calmer synth/choir section.
It also doesn't help that the person submitting these to him clearly has a preference.
@@corbeauwrite Very interesting comment. But I hope we don't shift the focus from Chimata being a blatant reference to the fear of doujin culture disappearing due to the pandemic.
it's on amazon or alibaba
Zun definitely has a super recognizable style but it feels like lately he's been experimenting with newer sound fonts and instruments in the newer games so you might find them interesting to check out. Idolatrize World from touhou 17 is one of my favorites
He actually checked that out in one of his streams!
actually it is not soundfonts, most of time touhou fans use soundfonts as cheap way to create similar to zun sound, instead of buying expensive hardware syntheisers and expensive vsti (but actual syntheisers provide more complex and variable sound, so they are better)
@@HeroOfAnnihilated I see lol. I’m not the most informed about that kind of thing but thats why I find learning about it super interesting
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I feel like you should check an entire Touhou OST one of these days.
They aren't long (normally just 17 tracks), and there's usually a kind of musical journey that ZUN wants to convey when you're playing the games.
Keep in mind these are short games that last less than 30 minutes per run.
It's actually between 30 ~ 45 minutes, depending on the game. If we exclude the extra stages, which add another 10 minutes in their own.
This, Davi should review entire touhou titles OST and he will find that each game has a different style and sound
The reason most of the songs requested sound similar is because people request the ones they like the most, which happens to fit in a certain style of music.
While the famous Touhou progression is indeed predominant, there are a lot of songs with different other styles scattered throughout the 18 games. From the top of my head we have:
-Touhou 6 Sakuya Theme: Lunar Clock
-Touhou 11 Stage 5 Theme: Lullaby of a Deserted Hell
-Touhou 11 Utsuho's Theme: Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom
-Most of Touhou 13 OST, I would pick the stage 6 boss (True Administrator) and Extra Stage Boss (Futatsuiwa from Sado)
-Touhou 14 Sekibanki's Theme: Dullahan Under the Willows
-Touhou 15 Doremi's Theme: Eternal Spring Dream
-Touhou 15 Stage 6 Theme: The Sea Where One's Home Planet Reflects
-Touhou 15 Junko's theme (You can almost say one is the continuation of the stage 6 theme)
-Touhou 18 Momoyo's Theme: The Princess Who Slays Dragon Kings
Great suggestions!!
100% agree with this, I would like to add a unique sounding song no more going through doors from touhou 16 it's the extra stage theme of that game and a very heavily overlooked song but I think it's so beautifully ominous
Yup, i've stopped watching these exactly because people kept recommending not only music using the same progression, but also very similar beats. It's really unfortunate.
Even here, these suggestions are mostly very high energy and high energy beats, except for Lullaby of a Deserted Hell and arguably The Sea Where One's Home Planet Reflects
What about the CDs and other miscellaneous tracks?
I don't have a problem with using a repetitive theme because there are enough changes in the key and melodies to keep it interesting.
曲を聴いただけで考察出来るなんて…凄すぎる。いつかネクロファンタジアや恋色マスタースパークもぜひ聴いて欲しいです。
I think part of the 'problem' is that Touhou might be very similar, but there's only about a dozen tracks per game compared to other video games. But when you listen to them one at a time over the course of months the same way you listen to other series it sounds more repetitive than it is.
Kind of, but then again almost every series has that problem, i'll say pokemon and specially mario had it much worse
I think it feels repetitive because the newest song you've reviewed is from Touhou 14.3 and that game is nearly ten years old. He does become more experimental in newer games, I like Hidden Star In All Seasons from Touhou 16, for instance.
Wow this is the first stage theme you react to, Gensokyo The Gods Loved is considered by many touhou fan to be touhou national anthem
The Gensokyo leitmotif runs wild
So far you have reviewed the songs that are in the taste of most Touhou fans, Great job because all of them are really iconic. But I also think you should give a look at some of the "less" popular songs, "Poison Body ~ Forsaken Doll" specifically is according to ZUN himself one of his most unique compositions.
-Oh yeah and this is all about the song and nothing else, nothing to do with the fact it's my favorite character theme and how she's really underrated and forgotten all the time-
-Would you say it makes you feel melancholy-
-Here, I brought you medicine. This will cleanse your melancholy-
i feel like the gensokyo the gods loved is one of the most identifiable touhou songs, in the sense that it uses the "touhou sequence" as you call it more than most songs, it's definitely the song you can listen to and think "yeah, this is 100% touhou"
there are definitely some songs by zun that don't follow the general formula of most touhou songs, the one that immediately comes to mind is "heian alien" from touhou 12 undefined fantastic object, or really, most songs from touhou 12 after, all feel pretty unique compared to most of the songs prior. ZUN kind of had a shift in music direction from that point on, definitely showing it's complete shift starting from touhou 15 and on. his music became more complex, if there's one song i'd recommend you to check out apart from heian alien it'd probably be "secret god matara - hidden star in all seasons" from touhou 16. really though, i have become addicted to zun's music, i think the simple songs are amazing because they're so easy to follow along with, but even i would have to admit that they can get a bit repetitive. His more complex songs are also amazing though, touhou 15's soundtrack is phenomenal. reading zun's notes on the music that he leaves in the game is pretty fascinating, i'd have to say that goes for most of the notes that he leaves in the game, however.
i'd say that i can definitely tell these songs definitely feel like touhou and my music theory knowledge stalled at 12th grade in highschool where theory wasn't the main focus of my school's curriculum so i may or may not be underqualified to say they're completely different lol
amazing video as always Davi, cheers
ps: if you ever feel like it, i'd recommend checking out some of the fan arrangements of songs, TOKYO ACTIVE NEETS is a group i always recommend to people, very simple and just less of the electronic midi sound that zun has in his songs, also not as wild as some fan groups such as IOSYS
Amazing video as always! Too repetitive is way too addictive. I like it. I've never actually played the game, but I feel this track has a beautiful melody that makes me feel a sense of nostalgia and a bit sentimental. My friend, who is a dedicated Touhou fan, often plays this track. It puts me in a fantastic mood when we're driving past places like the shrine or the ravine, especially during this beautiful autumn leaf season. Thanks for the video, Davi!
「今宵は飄逸なエゴイスト」
「偶像に世界を委ねて~Idoratrize World」
「秘神マターラ～Hidden Star in All Seasons.」とか
あと「平安のエイリアン」は凄まじいし面白い
個人的に「不思議なお祓い棒」も聞いてみて欲しい
考察を聞いてて楽しい
You've covered a theme from:
- Touhou 6 (U.N. Owen was her)
- Touhou 10 (This one)
- Touhou 11 (Hartmann's Youkai Girl)
- Touhou 14 (Reverse Ideology)
And 2 from Touhou 8 (Reach for the Moon - Immortal Smoke & Gensokyo Millenium - History of the Moon)
Many fans of Touhou see Touhou 6, 7, and 8 and the best of the "classic" Touhou games, with the best music of the series. Personally, my favorite game is Touhou 7. I recommend either "Bloom Nobly, Cherry Blossoms of Sumizone - Border of Life" or "Necrofantasia" from Touhou 7.
Keep up the Touhou! We love it! : D
He reacted to Necrofantasia in a strram.
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good suggestion.
i would also like to use this opportunity to suggest "Nuclear Fusion" from "Subterranean Animism"
I find it really funny, because in 2 of the tracks, ZUN accidentally did the same exact chorus for 2 final boses, those being 'The Concealed Four Seasons' and 'Necrofantasia.' He later confirmed in an interview that he didn't mean to make them sound so similar, even though the bosses are pretty related.
I’m not so sure I buy that. Considering Okina was clearly made as a Yukari ripoff but better and stronger (I despise Okina, by the way; there is NOBODY above Yukari and trying to replace her with this Deviantart-OC-tier Villain Sue is disgusting), I’m pretty sure he did write The Concealed Four Seasons to at least parallel Necrofantasia. Though what it’s REALLY a ripoff of is Pure Furies.
@@Dreigonix"there's NOBODY above Yukari..."
Eiki Shiki Yamaxanadu, Toyohime, Yorihime, Hecatia, and a few others that I might not remember, have shown or been stated to be superior lol. Arguably Yuuka also, but in raw strength. Also, Okina is kind of an equal and ally more than a superior and enemy, since you know, both are Sages and creators of Gensokyo. No real need to get so pissy about it.
@@terra6713 For one thing, although I do actually like Hecatia, I don’t like the recent power creep she represents either. And everybody hates the Watatsukis for also being Villain Sues; let’s be clear.
But when I say nobody’s above Yukari, it’s in a sense of importance to the series, not raw power. The concept of boundaries is something that forms the entire philosophical core of the setting- quite frankly, there’s nothing I could say that Lyrica Live hasn’t already explained on her Necrofantasia cover.
Then Okina gets introduced like she’s on the same level as Yukari despite having very little relevance to the series’ themes to justify it- or even any personality beyond generic anime smugness. And Yukari herself hasn’t been seen since Okina has appeared.
The damndest thing is, I wouldn’t be so upset if we got more- or any- scenes of Yukari and Okina sharing screen time and allowing us to actually see their relationship, rather than Okina seemingly being here to upstage Yukari in a meta sense.
@@DreigonixOkina is the god of disability, the god of outcasts, all of the gensokyo people are outcasts, so gensokyo is kind of like her domain I guess, her role as a outcast god also made her appear less in public religion, compare to other forgotten gods in the modern japan, she is like the god that's destined to be forgotten from the beginning, so out of any gods, she would be the one associated with gensokyo the most.
I likes to think that Yukari makes the meaning of gensokyo, breaking and creating logic for it, and Okina is the god for this isolated place, she's what makes gensokyo full of outcasts.
She's also disability itself, showing how essential disability is for the world, like how everytime she helps other people by making their situations more difficult to deal with.
there's a book when Yukari and Okina comment on spellcards after Seija makes the danmaku fireworks display dangerous, Okina take the opportunity to invite Hecatia and her friend Junko. While Okina appreciate their spellcards' craziness and how destructive to the moon it could be, Yukari ended up calling Sagume turning this situation back to normal. don't know if we could get their relationship from these, but from how Yukari comments on Okina's spellcards I think she already know her very well.
@@Dreigonix I haven't seen any people hating the Watatsukis (at most have seen people not liking them, and just a few, long ago) they're probably around my top 15 of favorites lol, but anyways.
You're right with your definition of boundaries and the amount of control over anything Yukari has, but Yukari isn't the concept of boundaries (unlike gods that are what they symbolize), she's just a youkai (felt like clarifying it for some reason). She's one of the "Mastermind" type of characters and one taking care of the wellbeing of Gensokyo in odd ways, same as Kasen and Okina tbf, only difference is that she was first.
I'm pretty sure you should know that That just isn't true. Okina does have some similar to equal levels of relevancy in comparison to Yukari, being shown multiple times how she starts pulling some strings for the sake of Gensokyo (The whole "Fairies turning into stones" so that Hecatia acknowledges her as a protector of Gensokyo [To avoid any and all conflict with Hell, thing Hecatia agreed to] , 17.5 exists because of her, I believe it's the same for 16.5, and so on.). Of course she "wasn't born" with relevance, Yukari wasn't either when she first appeared (just some powerful and lazy youkai that led to th7 happening. Next games they gave her more relevancy and expanded upon her character, same as is happening with Okina), but Zun has given her quite a role as a protector of Gensokyo, she isn't just some blank slate replacing Yukari.
Also, in Grimoire of Usami They do share screentime and are shown to be familiar with each other lol. It's just a matter of time until they're shown together again.
Might have misspelled something or used limited vocabulary. Sorry.
Edit: wait bruh, isn't even Reimu above Yukari in terms of relevance?
This is actually one of my all time favorite songs. The sense of happiness and joyous freedom mixed with an overarching air of melancholy gives this song so much weight and emotion that is always indicative of the most iconic Touhou songs whenever ZUN is pulling out all the stops. Plus, I love the title of this song. “The Gensokyo the Gods Loved” implies a past tense, meaning that the song represents an “ideal Gensokyo” worthy of divine blessing. It’s beautiful.
もし良ければ、「kouchakan ~ Chinese Tea」
東方紅茶館
を聴いてみて欲しい。
I think ZUN definitely put more efforts on composing melodies instead of arranging the chords. Although the chords are kind of repetitive, Touhou melodies are really beautiful and unique in each track. This really need some flairs and I think ordinary people can't come up with such many addictive melodies.
And then there's "Autumnal Waterfall" from the same game which is straight plagiarism of "Blue ni Naiteru"
@@anomyymi0108 But....most of the chorus of the Touhou themes, Zun wrote it himself, maybe some songs, This is normal for doujin games.
東方の曲なら次は偶像に世界を委ねて（Idoratrize World）を聞いてみて欲しい。きっと気に入ってくれるよ。
If ZUN wanted his music to be recognizable as his own, he's done it well, seeing as most consider Touhou music as pretty much its own genre. While I really like how ZUN does his music, I think it would be even better if ZUN experimented some more, and tried some more unique things. Like with Primordial Beat ~ Pristine Beat - ZUN originally wanted to have drums be the main instrument (which I would've LOVED), and I wish he followed up on that.
(primordial beat is still one of the most unique touhou songs and one of my favorites tho)
You really have to check out the Touhou 19 soundtrack, particularly Zanmu's theme, it sounds very unique
The mostly percussion segment of Primordial Beat ~ Pristine Beat is freaking awesome
Thank you for uploading Touhou music analysis videos (and thanks to the people who request the videos), I always learn many new things about Touhou music from them!
Also congrats on 100k!
As someone who has been hearing the entirety of the Touhou ost from 1-19 (45 hours in total!) I can say that yes and no, most of the bosses have the same chords, but most of the people listening wont even realize, because of how different it sounds. (And most of the actual repetitive ones are from stage themes/1-3 stage bosses)
Intriguing
東方を取りあげて下さりありがとうございます！
ぜひ平安のエイリアン（HEIAN Alien）を聞いて欲しいです。600曲を超える東方曲の中で最も不安定で奇妙に観じる曲です。連鎖的に起こるエネルギーの爆発を連想させる曲調は私にとってとても魅力的です。
酒飲みながら作ったやつw
神曲
As times go, one can feel ZUN times when he goes more and more adventurous and then gets used to new systems and instruments, which are also considered as eras in itself with his compositions, in his newer installments he has been trying more and more things too, if you can, id suggest to check themes like Fires of Hokkai from Touhou 13, Electric Heritage from Touhou 17, Lunar Rainbow or The Great Fantastic Underground Railway Network from Touhou 18, and from his new game, which i really reccomend, Tiny Shangri-la and a really interesting track, The Deviant's Unobstructed Light, both from touhou 19, both are really interesting in instrumental choice and such, first one having the first use of erhu in ZUN works, and the other having some vocals or chorus adding different feelings to the themes, and yes, while ZUN may come to some as repetitive, that core aspect of touhou music is what gives the identity the series has and allows so many people to come and make covers, remixes and whatever you can imagine on any type of music genre you can imagine or find on the internet
I think junko’s music is also good,unique、bold and unconstrained
I recommend you to hear Pierrot of the Star-Spangled Banner from touhou 15
he actually has become a little more experimental with his style after a few games (this is very evident in TH19's Kingdom of Nothingness)
CONTINUE FAZENDO OS VÍDEOS SOBRE TOUHOU, AMO SEU TRABALHO DAVI ❤❤
I enjoyed your interpretations, impressions and insights.
As me Japanese, the impression I got when I first heard this song was that the melody at the beginning reminded me of the opening melody of the children's song 'Toryanse(通りゃんせ)' not only is that song very old, but it can still be heard on the streets as a signal for blind people to cross the pedestrian crossing.
Toryanse's lyrics are about border checkpoints, it makes the player realise that me has entered a new stage, it is a new reconstruction of an old piece, it is a very jazz approach.
この曲を動画で紹介するなんてセンスがいいぜ
ピアノを弾いて解説してくれるの分かりやすくて良いね！
Hello, I am a Japanese studying English.
Your contents are perfect for my English listening practice: Clear English, attractive reactions, interesting opinions, and my favorite musics🥰
My recommendation is "Suwa Foughten Field", it's also a wonderful track, I think.
kanako's music is really good, but he has listened to similar music, the same style and chord may be a little boring and repetitive for him （I'm Chinese touhou fan.My English is not good.I'm sorry if there's any offense
Hii GREAT JOB, DAVI! I'm a one of the viewer from Japan, and it is so gradful for me to see your explanation of Touhou music. Actually there are only few videos to analyze Touhou music so your video is helpful for people don't understand well about music like me. Hope do my favorite one, Emotional Skyscraper ~Cosmic Mind~, too :)
Try touhou 19 music. (it's the latest installment, and it tries something experimental with the music, specifically Son Biten theme, and Zanmu theme)
Haven't finished the vid yet but I promise if you are looking for more variety from ZUN, do check more modern touhou games, im currently obssesed with Nippaku Zanmu's Theme from touhou 19! I think the OSTs for UFO (Touhou 12) and Ten Desires (Touhou 13) have incredible picks like emotional skyscraper ~ cosmic mind and the popular Desire Drive. Those are just my personal favs i recommend :)
I didn't knew this song had a key change!
Great video, Davi!
your analysis of touhou as genre makes me intrigued on how you feel about Son Biten or Zanmu's theme from touhou 19. The instruments and vibe in those two themes are very different from usual and im interested to hear ahout the composition from a musician's perspective!
Thanks for this video! Always nice to see Touhou music! As many people said a lot is happening in terms of music with newest games - it would be awesome for you to check Tiny Shangri La - I think it have big chance to surprise you! It would also be interesting to see you checking some old stuff - from "forbidden" PC98 era I wholeheartedly recommend Doll of Misery!
Edit: although in terms of being different I'd say Crazy Backdoor Dancers or Perpetual Snow of Komakusa Blossoms would do nicely as well - for entirely different reasons
This one's been turned into the opening for a fan anime more than once, that's how iconic it is!
Memories of phantasm is what introduced me to the tune.
Its one of my favorites, right next to Fantastic legend of Thono and Strawberry Crisis.
I'll never forget the first time I heard it. Mountain of Faith probably has the most Gensoukyou-like music in the entire series... playing that game always makes me feel like I've entered this perfectly natural and sacred place.
People call it the Anthem of Gensokyo and honestly, it is at this point lol
Never really thought much about this... cool.... makes me more aware of the music.... thank you. Appreciate your pointing out these things.. 😁
Love these touhou songs analysis!!!!! thank you
I love the gensokyo the gods loved it’s the song I auditioned with for classical clarinet in my place’s equivalent of college and it’s what I consider to be the quintessential touhou song like there’s nothing fancy just the basic classic zun style that made me fall in love with the franchise(not to say that the deviations like the recent biten and zamnu’s themes are bad I love them for their uniqueness too)
This one is my favorite track from Touhou! idk if it is just the catchy melody, or something, but I really like this one!
Thank you, KradNosnatef, for suggesting it! (And Davi for making the video, of course) 😃👍
I really like your analysis of the touhou osts. Maybe it would be interesting to make a video on an ost from the first games (pc-98) or the latest games, to see if ZUN's style has evolved much.
A lot of the music presented here comes from what you might call the golden age of Touhou and is indeed in a fairly similar style.
Always a treat to see Touhou on this channel! thanks for the react!
Newer touhou songs use different instruments and you really feel like zun's style evolved, i think it could be interesting for you to check one of the newer touhou game musics
If you haven't checked them out, he has listened to Tiny Shangri-La from th19 in a recent livestream. (also Necrofantasia, Desire Drive, 15.5 version of Evening Star ~ Night Falls, and Innocence from th04)
@@S1ethYeah, Tiny Shangri-La was my recommendation! I really wanted to show something unique, since most of the recommendations sound pretty similar (Necrofantasia, Gensokyo Millennium, etc).
You actually already heard a variation of that "main melody" in another song you already reacted to. It's the main melody of Mouko's Theme, as well, with small changes. I know I've also heard it in a few other Touhou songs.
It's probably a leit motif for something.
In fact, I'm pretty sure a varation of the melody is used for the Zunpets in Gensokyou Millenium.
Maybe it's the motif for "Gensokyou" itself?
And yes, I know about Theme of Eastern Story. It makes sense for that to be the theme of Gensokyo. Maybe both of them are or something?
Maybe what's more likely is that this one is the theme for the Danmaku battles or a certain region within Gensokyo?
I'm honestly not knowledgeable enough on the topic to guess with accuracy.
If you do Junko's theme, "Pure Furies ~ Whereabouts of the Heart," I recommend you start with "The Sea Where One's Home Planet Reflects," from the same game as one is a continuation of the other.
Music is truly a wonderful world of it's own. But I do have one request from you, and that is to react and give your thoughts on the Risk of Rain 2 ost, it is just so relaxing, deep & a vibe from start to finish. Also great video =D
You've done so many 'classic' Touhou theme. I do really want you to see you do "Where is that Bustling Market Place Now" and "Entrusting This World to Idols"
At this point, I'd recommend picking one of the games, and just listening to its soundtrack. Many of the main line titles (without the decimal points) are fairly linear, so you can fairly reasonably follow the story just by listening to a playlist.
I believe that one of the things that makes sound like Touhou is the familiarity each song brings with surprises at every turn, you can never get too familiar with Gensokyo.
I love your reaction to Toho's music. I`m looking forward to working with you.
I've suggested this song in the comments many times, it's my favorite ZUN track, thanks for covering it.
You should try Kingdom of Nothingness from the newest Touhou 19, it's very different from whatever you've probably heard so far and would give you newer example of Zuns work
リクエストしてもよろしいでしょうか
東方の曲で
｢霊知の太陽信仰 〜
Nuclear Fusion｣
という曲です
可能であればよろしくお願いします
You could try to hear Primordial Beats Pristine Beats, in that one ZUN also add drumbeat into the mix, which makes it kinda stands out from other ost
Time to add new recommendations, this time from the music CDs. How about Ancient Temple in the Netherworld, Border Between Dream and Reality, or Instant that Exceeds Planck's Time? None of these were used in games, but ZUN has a number of songs exclusive to the music CDs.
言葉通じなくても共有できる
音楽ってすごい
The thing about touhou music, is all the remixes the comunity has made along all these years, since it's basically copy-right free, there's an insane amount of remixes. You can find touhou music remixes in every style imaginable. Like, that one time Akatsuki Records made an Irish Folk music out of a song with egyptian vibes which is a theme of a chinese zombi girl.
I love this music because of its nostalgic melody. It reminds me an image of Japanese folk songs such as played in old festivals or something. I don’t know where the image or nostalgia come from.
他の動画にもコメントしちゃったんですが、是非「始原のビート ～ Pristine Beat」と「神さびた古戦場 ～ Suwa Foughten Field」を解説していただきたいです！
神さびた古戦場は今回解説していただいた神々が恋した幻想郷と同じディスク収録の曲です。
Great content as always!
Analysis of "Soviet Connection" (GTA4 theme) would be awesome to see!
Cheers from 🇨🇦!
Touhou music is typically self similar, but not the same. The same could be said for any classical composer. ZUN is a composer after all, he doesn't record, he writes. Also pretty much every video loops the tracks because they're short. Every stage has 2 themes, a stage theme and a boss theme. Also the games basically play like an album right from the main menu, with each stage having a different atmosphere.
You should listen to the Collab song between ZUN, the creator of Touhou Project and Toby Fox, the creator of Undertale and Deltarune, song wich was released just yesterday!!!
The song is called U.N. Owen was hero, wich is a mashup between Battle against a true hero from Toby, and U.N. Owes was her from ZUN
When davi uploads it is destined to be a good day
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@@DaviVasc hello, can you maybe do a video on Godfrey, First Elden Lord from Elden Ring?
Maybe it's because majority of the songs are in the middle of the timeline, in old and newer games, zun has some crazy tunes that don't necessarily have the same type of melodies, a hidden gem that i love to share is touhou 16: no more going through doors, excellent theme
いい曲ですよね
にとりちゃんかわいい
I have been listening and remaking many music from the touhou games I've yet to have the time to post them but one thing I noticed is that in the later games I can see that there are differences within the songs like different instruments that carry that specific track while some feel like the normal ZUN. Right now I am trying to cover touhou 4 but after making touhou1-3 I feel the repetitive nature. Then after I made 6-7 I felt he grew but when I went to 8 I felt a bit of the repetition. However, he does really well with his small knowledge of music to have made these awesome tracks and touhou 19 had bangers obviously the covered songs are repetitive not a big fan of them but the new songs I don't know how but he just makes each of them special
Finally Touhou commentary on music!
He has done this before
the most amazing thing about zun is that everything is self-taught. programming the entire game, making the drawings/characters, their backstory, and composing the music, all are self-taught. there should be a limit to how talented a single individual being can be... the best of it all? he isn't a douche about it and is in fact very modest. the themes people have selected for u have mostly been "extra stage" bosses and are post-game bosses which is why they feel very similar yet are different. if you listen to a stage theme like this one here, you will hear it sounds very japanese in this case, that's because in the game you are about to enter a "japan" from a time period that no longer exists, hence why the theme of a "japan" the gods loved. if you go back to the game where koishi is from, you should have a listen to "Lullaby of Deserted Hell" and see how different it sounds thematically yet has that zun touch. he's created like over 20 games by himself and wrote the music for all of them and once you go through all of them you can really understand his genius is at a level that simply cannot be touched by people who have spent years studying music and composition. you really FEEL the music when you actually hear it in the game while playing as if it's very much part of the game instead of just background music. you can just feel how all the pieces just perfectly connect because he was the sole person in charge of everything.
you should listen to "a world of nightmares never seen before". it's a pretty cool touhou ost
hey bro! I'm Japanese. I always enjoy watching your videos!
I have a request, can I ask it?
One of Touhou's songs is called「Septette for a Dead Princess」.
I want you to listen to it.
Sorry for the video from a long time ago.thank you!
If you want an instrument that doesn't feel midi :
"Tiny Shangri-La" from Touhou 19. The key changes are wild in this btw.
On another note, "Legend of Hourai" is unlike anything you've heard before. It sounds extremely traditional and he made an effort to make the instruments extra-realistic (even though he used outdated instruments)
This is one of the most popular Stage music, Mountain of Faith (Touhou 10), Stage 3. The stage that introduce the kappa.
As this is a stage music - meaning that, in game, you're on track forward the boss of the stage, slaying a lot of fairies on the way - a stage song tend to repeat often.
A few of the stage music are used as theme for character that only show as midbosses. For one example in the same game on Stage 4, a character named Momiji only show up as a midboss, so the stage song is used as her own theme "Fall of Fall ~ Autumnal Waterfall".
i'm super curious about how you'd feel about "Lullaby of a Deserted Hell" from Touhou 11 or "Kingdom of Nothingness" from Touhou 19
Now you should react to the memories of Phantasm OP1 which is a remix of this which is a good exemple of how the fanbase builds of the base themes
神々の恋した幻想郷は日本らしさがとても溢れている神曲だと思う
stage 2 , hina, nitori, kanako and suwako themes are my fav in this game coming on top of my head
Hey Davi watchers familiar with Touhou. Are there any tracks by ZUN that you think are different enough that they cannot instantly be recognized as Touhou/ZUN music?
I am thinking maybe "Phantasm Machine ~ Phantom Factory " from Changeability of Strange Dream
I'd compare touhou 6 songs to something like 17, 18 and 19 if you want to be sure
Phantasm Machine is a Seihou track so that understandably doesn't sound like Touhou.
In terms of songs that might not be recognized, "Blue Sea of 53 Minutes" comes to mind after Davi talking about the piano velocity, at least until the ZUNpets and signature percussion come in. "Izanagi Object" is also an interesting and unique one.
As for actual game tracks that just stand out as unique or different to me that might bring a change of pace to the channel:
"The capital city of flowers in the sky"
"Onigashima in the Fairyland ~ Missing Power"
"The Bridge People No Longer Cross"
"Interdimensional Voyage of a Ghostly Passenger Ship"
"Fires of Hokkai"
"Heian Alien"
"Bell of Avici ~ Infinite Nightmare"
Basically any track from the Ten Desires OST
"Magical Storm"
"A World of Nightmares Never Seen Before"
"Into Backdoor"
"Lost River"
"Unlocated Hell"
"The Perpetual Snow of Komakusa Blossoms"
"The Deviants Unobstructed Light ~ Kingdom of Nothingness"
(I spent way too long making this list.)
@@masdrionalt kingdom of nothingness is my new favorite lately. It really doesn't sound like Touhou with new instruments and it's amazing
And love you including ten desires as a whole. This game's soundtrack really was something else with double tracks for regular and spirit trance.
Desire Drive from Touhou 13
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私だったら
恋色マスタースパーク
狂気の瞳〜invisible full moon
平安のエイリアン
亡き王女の為のセプテット
妖魔夜行
人形裁判〜人の形弄びし少女
星条旗のピエロ
聴いて見て欲しいです！！
im a HUGE touhou fan and have listened to and enjoyed many of its songs but greatly struggle to remember which one is which, i can in an instant tell when a song is from touhou but never what song it is.
Even the legendary bad apple ive had a but of a strugfle to recognize a couple times, but i feel like a lot of these sort of cult classic videogames have the same effect for me, mainly risk of rain and team fortress two, i can tell you its from there but not which song, maybe its a level of interest thing, becausd im not that way with undertale which i was super deep into
Davi do a full game ost reaction already 🤧 I recommend touhou 8 imperishable night as the whole ost is mostly played with piano.
There is this Touhou track called "A midsummer fairy's dream". It is from Touhou 16: Hidden Star in Four Seasons and it is definitely one of the most unique tracks in the franchise, as I'm pretty sure the Touhou sequence is not in it (and if it is, it is very hard to notice, same for the ZUNpets). I also don't recall it featuring any sort of piano.
While it is one of my favourite tracks because of that uniqueness, I also have to admit that, because it lacks those elements, it doesn't feel as much like a Touhou track. It fits bullet hell gameplay incredibly well in my opinion, but it doesn't sound like your usual Touhou song at all. I really recommend listening to it.
hello, I know you from some Japanese guys share your videos with translation.
your analysis about TOUHOU's characters just like god.
I'm so impressive now!!
You also can try to listen to zun's music album like "dolls in pseudo Paradies" for example they also have there own Story whit each Track. Even though some of them are just barely changed songs from the games they more or less better version of his songs
You should try listening to Dolls in Psuedo Paradise, also his previous work on composing Seihou and PC-98
You should do emotional skyscraper
There's a particular Touhou stage theme that might be interesting for you to review, it's called Rural Makai City Esoteria, give it a listen one of these days, it's great
after waiting for century. you finally back for touhou:>
I'm Chinese touhou fan,I think Pure Furies～Where the heart is.from Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom well worth listening to and one of the best pieces zun has ever written
Hi great video!
Thanks man!
I recommend themes from the latest games like the Chimata theme or the Zanmu theme!
Something that I personally can recommend is listening to Necrofantasia (magical astronomy version from ZUNs music albums, not Touhou 7 one)
It represents exactly what you described and even more
秋が恋しくなる
そんな曲
Touhou 10 was my first Touhou so this song is very special to me. In fact, it's one of the song that got me interested in music composition :)
東方の曲を取り上げて頂きありがとうございます！
もしよろしければ
「広有射怪鳥事~Till when?」
「狂気の瞳～Invisible Full Moon」
「恋色マスタースパーク」をやっていただけると嬉しいです！
I hope he hears one of my favorite tracks from touhou 7 either Necrofantasia or Ultimate Truth