Great solutions guys, love it. I do a lot of cooking videos, for my wife's channel, CookingwithRody. I have one twist on the min 6:02 I raise the C-Stand to where it touches the ceiling and stuff a small rolled-up towel or even a small stuffed animal in a pinch. Stops the wobble and eliminates 3rd leg getting in the shot...
when you shoot with iPhone you can connect it to your Mac/iMac with a longer cable and open QuickTime File/NewMovieRecording in that screen, next to the REC button there is an arrow to select source of recording - select your iPhone you will see your phone's camera (back phone or frontal camera, whichever you select) - and now you can see on your monitor (iMac/MacBook) what the phone is shooting without having a giraffe neck and try to see what's in the screen's phone
For the third setup, you say, "instead of a 1/4-20--" then you cut off, and sort of show the rig, bit then jump to putting on a safety chain. Care to elaborate on how the camera is attached to the actual stand?
I have watched many of your videos, some interesting, some just ok. But this one was really helpful. Been using a c stand without triangulation. Modified my setup and added triangulation, now it’s a little more stable, still shakes, but not as much. Thanks!
I’m glad you think so! In my early days I’ve been single arm C stand stuff and I just never felt secure in anyway shape or form. When I first brain stormed this idea, it’s just a much safer way to go
R Spivack sometimes I use about that as well. But since this is an Indy Mogul Chow, I wanted to show the first thing that I ever tried which was just a simple baby pen. I think there’s lots of other great options out there, a ball head being one of them
This camera wobble when using a single arm on my C-stand was exactly the problem I ran into when using my DSLR to shoot overhead still shots of old newspapers that were laid flat on a table. As soon as I moved anywhere near the camera the arm would wobble. I kept thinking I really need to shoot this on a concrete floor, but your solution is much easier. Just need to buy myself another extension arm and a grip head.
I love how easy the setup is for a DSLR. However, the top down shot looks distorted and awkward; the view is as if someone is standing on top of a table and looking down at their feet to see the demonstration. Is there a ball head on the camera that can be rotated outward a bit? That might be a more natural look at what is being done on the table.
I'm a musician, watching you use the back end of the boom stand (hahaha!!!) That part is there to balance to weight on the other end when you attach a mic or whatever to it with an adapter. Sure a cell phone is light but you get the boom angle between a set of legs and BOOM! Hahahaha!
I got the boom stand & phone clamp you mention in the 1st setup but it won’t hold the weight of the phone. The arm keeps dropping. Then I noticed in ur setup the arm is resting on a c-stand. So it doesn’t really work.
Hey Ted & Casey : My question is you guys just pinched the FX9 handle with the cardellini clamp? Couldn’t quite make out how you guys actually rigged it , seemed like Casey was going into it...“ instead of using a quarter 20 screw...” but then it just cuts to broll and the broll doesn’t quite show you guys putting it together in a way we can mirror and implement ourselves. Would have been super dope to show it just like how you guys did the DSLR rig, even though it’s much simpler and easy to grasp. The FX9 rigging piece needed a little more attention lol. Please help guys. Also would like to see a video of how DPs/Gaffers/Grips rig quasars , and astera tubes. All accessories involved to rig those types of lights overhead and such. Please and thanks!
I think we’ve gone over it a few times here in the comments. But it’s only one of many ways you could tackle this. We did it the easiest way we could think of
ive got a boom stand - added an adapter to match the threads of my camera (sony a6000) - and it works just fine -- some may need a counter weight - but it cost about $30 - dont need professional expensive gear to work with a mirrorless
if recording just with an iphone for unboxing video overhead shot, will a rode videomicro ii work? I want to make a unboxing video that can capture those crispy sound but wants to be in a budget side
Beckett honestly be a bit tricky but could totally work. Sometimes you need to play around with things and post to make it look normal. But a clean near, room two rigs things in line things up properly, and a way to get the mirror up high are the only problem is you need to overcome with something like that
I believe this is how it used to be done when the cameras were a lot bigger and heavier. Just a different idea. Love to see and hear the different ideas.
Since the host so rudely interrupted Casey before he could tell us the name of the clamp he used to secure the larger camera, is there any chance you could add the name of the clamp to the description below the video?
That is really unfair... the more important part is the light... and in my country is super difficult find good lighting. And I have a glass table... but like always is good advice!!!
Take the principles and apply them with the tools that you have. Or use this as ideas for why you might want to purchase certain equipment in the future
Instead of clamping the FX9, while it would increase the weight a bit, I'd think I'd have put it in a cage and grabbed that with either the clamp or multiple screw/bolts... No?
There’s quite honestly a lot of ways to skin that cat, there’s plenty of ways you could delay, I just didn’t feel like putting trust into either a quarter 20 screw, or the mounting holes for the camera. The kids would definitely help, but if you want to find ways to get a few mounting points and spread the load out over a larger area
You went from $30 to rig a smartphone to $360 to rig a DLSR... C-Stands are great when you can afford them. Most people who need you to explain how to rig an overhead can't. Can you please stop resorting to C-stands? Indy makers don't have them. If you can afford $120K+ for a camera and you need someone on UA-cam to explain how to rig an overhead you're doing it wrong. This channel is starting to feel increasingly like an extension of 4 minute film school on the Aperture channel intended for bigger budgets and less like an indy channel intended for no or low budget creators. Why not a DIY C-stand to bring us back to Indymogul roots
@@aptly6 I'm starting to suspect based on action and content that Ted purchased IndyMogul for disingenuous purposes. As a means to buy in to a large, niche community in order to sell us aperture lights. Not for the reasons he originally claimed. Everything feels very commercial now, like I'm being spoken down to if I'm unwilling or unable to spend 5-100K on equipment. I like the scene break downs of big productions to an extent, it's good to hear how they solved problems. But when solving the problem is bringing in a large overhead light bigger than my house and that costs a third the price of my house, that isn't very relevant or helpful. I think David Sandberg does a good job talking to indy creators even though he now makes big budget films. And I think the reason for that is at heart he is an indy mogul, and hasn't let his career change that. Where as it doesn't feel like Ted really has much experience in scarcity. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Ted does really believe in Indy creators and have the best of intentions, and just doesn't really know how to relate. I'd really like to see this show produced without any Aperture equipment. No lights that cost more than $100 retail, no expensive shure microphones, and no C-stands. An actual extremely budget restrained show where the entire equipment budget including camera and dressings is $1000 or under. I think that would go a long way to helping Ted speak the Indy language and understand the actual problems the Indy community face. I want content designed for people who have to do DIY film making, often alone, often with no or low budgets. Not professional producer low budgets, actual low budgets. Inventive cheap DIY solutions to problems. Perhaps instead of talking me through scene break downs of big budget films and serials, it might be more relevant to this community to have those same professionals break down scenes from some of their very first Indy projects, when they had no budget and no crew. How did they some those problems, and what steps did they take that lead them from that point to where they are now. Perhaps instead of trying to make up genre specific scenes like this video, present it as a challenge to do the best job possible with X budget for all equipment and dressing where X never exceeds $500. We wouldn't see C-stands anymore if that's what they have to work with.
TJ Marx perhaps you didn’t catch the brilliance of what you said. Buy used. It can’t be more used that used. If you choose to sell it, you get the same price as what you bought it for. It’s essentially free and you get to have the best tool in the business until you sell it. I was in the same boat for years, but I learned that what keeps people from moving forward is “knowing what they will lose ($100 (for a while)), but not imagining what they will gain”
You’re welcome to adjust the lighting to your tastes. This is how we got these results, which are nice. There are 1000 ways to skin this cat, just be sure to share with us what you did and how it turned out
Cool if I shamelessly promote my 360 overhead shot video? :) it got no views 😭 Also got a video on some cheap stands you can use for overheads as well, but they raised the price a bit on em and they aint really soooo cheap anymore. Still cheaper than a cstand though
Sound person: “wtf guys, we were whispering a moment ago...”
LMAO
Next clip: how to not clip your levels when you're excitedly screaming into your microphone.
Honestly, it worked so well, I just bought that book. LOL
The grip arm triangulation is such a great idea and so simple I don't know why I didn't think of it before. Thanks for that tip!
ted's audio was peaking the whole time...
I noticed that too, before the first tip even.
Ted's audio is always peaking. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get clean audio from Ted :p
Typical Ted.
Them: you peaked in high school
Ted:
Alex underrated comment ;D
Great solutions guys, love it. I do a lot of cooking videos, for my wife's channel, CookingwithRody. I have one twist on the min 6:02 I raise the C-Stand to where it touches the ceiling and stuff a small rolled-up towel or even a small stuffed animal in a pinch. Stops the wobble and eliminates 3rd leg getting in the shot...
when you shoot with iPhone you can connect it to your Mac/iMac with a longer cable and open QuickTime
File/NewMovieRecording
in that screen, next to the REC button there is an arrow to select source of recording - select your iPhone
you will see your phone's camera (back phone or frontal camera, whichever you select)
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and now you can see on your monitor (iMac/MacBook) what the phone is shooting without having a giraffe neck and try to see what's in the screen's phone
THANK YOU! I was about to write in the comments they never showed how to see what you are doing using top down on an iPhone.
Life hack: Glue the camera to the ceiling.
Now that's indie! (and potentially unsafe)
Ahhh! I was just looking for an overhead video tutorial! Thank you!
For the third setup, you say, "instead of a 1/4-20--" then you cut off, and sort of show the rig, bit then jump to putting on a safety chain. Care to elaborate on how the camera is attached to the actual stand?
Looks like they clamped the cameras tophandle into a cardellini clamp
Agreed. This was the only point of confusion in the whole video. I don't own a big heavy camera like that but I still want to know!
You're the 1st video production channel 8 have seen put a sandbag on a cstand properly. I will subscribe.
I have watched many of your videos, some interesting, some just ok. But this one was really helpful. Been using a c stand without triangulation. Modified my setup and added triangulation, now it’s a little more stable, still shakes, but not as much. Thanks!
The French Whisperer always does these kind of shots
This was perfect timing! I have all the stuff for the iPhone already but I'm going to try it with a small mirrorless (Canon M50)
Name tag. "Do Epic Shit" LOL! The Expanse. Epic Shit. Great video. The "shaky" overhead cam - bane of my existence. Time to re-rig. :)
That c-stand extra support trick was so helpful! Will feel much safer about my setup with that in the mix.
I’m glad you think so! In my early days I’ve been single arm C stand stuff and I just never felt secure in anyway shape or form. When I first brain stormed this idea, it’s just a much safer way to go
R Spivack sometimes I use about that as well. But since this is an Indy Mogul Chow, I wanted to show the first thing that I ever tried which was just a simple baby pen. I think there’s lots of other great options out there, a ball head being one of them
Collecting thumbs up for Casey! 👍
Always learning something new from your channel! Thanks, Ted!
Guys this looks so easy... really, nice result.
Great pointers here. I’ll be bookmarking this video
Very informative video. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day. 👍
I know this video may be old...but it is still relevant today (2023). Thanks for all your help!!!
This series is so great!
Always fun to watch. Thank you, guys.
Glad you like it!
Thanks for the Video!
The thumbnail made me think it was a watchfinder video! Great vid.
You guys kick ass.
This camera wobble when using a single arm on my C-stand was exactly the problem I ran into when using my DSLR to shoot overhead still shots of old newspapers that were laid flat on a table. As soon as I moved anywhere near the camera the arm would wobble. I kept thinking I really need to shoot this on a concrete floor, but your solution is much easier. Just need to buy myself another extension arm and a grip head.
great tutorial video! Thanks a lot.
I love how easy the setup is for a DSLR. However, the top down shot looks distorted and awkward; the view is as if someone is standing on top of a table and looking down at their feet to see the demonstration. Is there a ball head on the camera that can be rotated outward a bit? That might be a more natural look at what is being done on the table.
I made my own overhead box using 2x2 wood and some plywood. I like your back lit curtain though. I should add that to my booth.
I'm a musician, watching you use the back end of the boom stand (hahaha!!!) That part is there to balance to weight on the other end when you attach a mic or whatever to it with an adapter. Sure a cell phone is light but you get the boom angle between a set of legs and BOOM! Hahahaha!
I got the boom stand & phone clamp you mention in the 1st setup but it won’t hold the weight of the phone. The arm keeps dropping. Then I noticed in ur setup the arm is resting on a c-stand. So it doesn’t really work.
Art of the expanse is a great book.
Hey Ted & Casey :
My question is you guys just pinched the FX9 handle with the cardellini clamp?
Couldn’t quite make out how you guys actually rigged it , seemed like Casey was going into it...“ instead of using a quarter 20 screw...” but then it just cuts to broll and the broll doesn’t quite show you guys putting it together in a way we can mirror and implement ourselves. Would have been super dope to show it just like how you guys did the DSLR rig, even though it’s much simpler and easy to grasp. The FX9 rigging piece needed a little more attention lol. Please help guys.
Also would like to see a video of how DPs/Gaffers/Grips rig quasars , and astera tubes. All accessories involved to rig those types of lights overhead and such. Please and thanks!
I think we’ve gone over it a few times here in the comments. But it’s only one of many ways you could tackle this. We did it the easiest way we could think of
@@Thats_my_Point You and I communicated on IG, this comment was made before that, lol. Thanks again bro!
ive got a boom stand - added an adapter to match the threads of my camera (sony a6000) - and it works just fine -- some may need a counter weight - but it cost about $30 - dont need professional expensive gear to work with a mirrorless
This was the best top down video training i've seen thank you so so much from my tarot channel!
if recording just with an iphone for unboxing video overhead shot, will a rode videomicro ii work? I want to make a unboxing video that can capture those crispy sound but wants to be in a budget side
Best overhead dslr setup saved me the hazzle of buying a heavy baby boom pole That destroys 2-1/2 grips
WHat about using a mirror?
Pamela Armstrong would you rather rig a camera or...a big dangerous piece of glass in the air? Plus it’ll be reversed.
Beckett honestly be a bit tricky but could totally work. Sometimes you need to play around with things and post to make it look normal. But a clean near, room two rigs things in line things up properly, and a way to get the mirror up high are the only problem is you need to overcome with something like that
I believe this is how it used to be done when the cameras were a lot bigger and heavier. Just a different idea. Love to see and hear the different ideas.
Great option
very helpful thank you.
I want that Expanse book
How do you start stop the filming?
What are some C-Stand brands/models that are good quality but won't break the bank? Also any sandbag recommendations?
Thanks!
It would be constructive to list all the assets used.
"Happy accidents"... is that a Bob Ross reference?!
I know this a dumb question but why doesn’t anyone ever talk about the best lenses for top down video ??
What type of Cardellini did you use for the triangle C-stands? The End or Center Jaw Cardellini.
Either would work but I’d prefer a center as it provides less torque, so more security
So Helpful!!
I build camera and lighting rigs using 1-inch SCH 40 PVC White Pipe. No glue, just dry fit.
Uh huh, and how do you hook the iPhone cam into a live zoom call?
30-40 bucks easy, not counting thousands of dollars of lights easy 😂
Since the host so rudely interrupted Casey before he could tell us the name of the clamp he used to secure the larger camera, is there any chance you could add the name of the clamp to the description below the video?
It’s a Matthellini or Cardellini
How do I hide the legs of tripod ?
So what did you all actually do to mount the fx9?
Yo when are you guys gonna review the A7sIII??
soon : )
Coof-19 note? Man, some people sure were crazy back then! ALL is normal now though, right? Riiiight?
I keep getting shadows front the lights and the phone as I film my art
Hey what’s a good budget iMac that can edit 4K? Need help!
Hi guys I hope you can also have a tutorial using a cellphone thanks
Ted: We are going to show you how to do this with an iPhone
*grabs a mirrorless camera*
Ted: and a DSLR
Well he ended up using a 6d mark ii which is a dslr
That is really unfair... the more important part is the light... and in my country is super difficult find good lighting. And I have a glass table... but like always is good advice!!!
eargasm lmao
Now that I've watched this... Imma go do epic shit.
Please do!
Am I the only one who is thinking,... what the fuck is in that coffee?
Why is the sound so loud in this video?
You forgot a W for Casey’s IG handle!
You're making the Deity guys look bad.
Is the analog limiter turned on? 32-bit float maybe?
There’s a lot I’d do to get one of those hats.
How to shoot top down videos, unless you are shooting with a big camera. They decided to keep that a secret to protect the gaffers’ union.
i legit just purchased my first C stand to do this
TEDDDDD
*on any budget with thousands of dollars of additional equipment (monitors etc)
Take the principles and apply them with the tools that you have. Or use this as ideas for why you might want to purchase certain equipment in the future
Instead of clamping the FX9, while it would increase the weight a bit, I'd think I'd have put it in a cage and grabbed that with either the clamp or multiple screw/bolts... No?
There’s quite honestly a lot of ways to skin that cat, there’s plenty of ways you could delay, I just didn’t feel like putting trust into either a quarter 20 screw, or the mounting holes for the camera. The kids would definitely help, but if you want to find ways to get a few mounting points and spread the load out over a larger area
@@Thats_my_Point Agree Casey - wasn't criticizing you, just sharing the approach I'd take. And my way sure ain't the only way. :)
Why is the audio so bad in this video
You went from $30 to rig a smartphone to $360 to rig a DLSR... C-Stands are great when you can afford them. Most people who need you to explain how to rig an overhead can't. Can you please stop resorting to C-stands? Indy makers don't have them.
If you can afford $120K+ for a camera and you need someone on UA-cam to explain how to rig an overhead you're doing it wrong. This channel is starting to feel increasingly like an extension of 4 minute film school on the Aperture channel intended for bigger budgets and less like an indy channel intended for no or low budget creators.
Why not a DIY C-stand to bring us back to Indymogul roots
I've been thinking the same thing for a while
@@aptly6 I'm starting to suspect based on action and content that Ted purchased IndyMogul for disingenuous purposes. As a means to buy in to a large, niche community in order to sell us aperture lights. Not for the reasons he originally claimed.
Everything feels very commercial now, like I'm being spoken down to if I'm unwilling or unable to spend 5-100K on equipment. I like the scene break downs of big productions to an extent, it's good to hear how they solved problems. But when solving the problem is bringing in a large overhead light bigger than my house and that costs a third the price of my house, that isn't very relevant or helpful.
I think David Sandberg does a good job talking to indy creators even though he now makes big budget films. And I think the reason for that is at heart he is an indy mogul, and hasn't let his career change that.
Where as it doesn't feel like Ted really has much experience in scarcity. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Ted does really believe in Indy creators and have the best of intentions, and just doesn't really know how to relate. I'd really like to see this show produced without any Aperture equipment. No lights that cost more than $100 retail, no expensive shure microphones, and no C-stands. An actual extremely budget restrained show where the entire equipment budget including camera and dressings is $1000 or under. I think that would go a long way to helping Ted speak the Indy language and understand the actual problems the Indy community face.
I want content designed for people who have to do DIY film making, often alone, often with no or low budgets. Not professional producer low budgets, actual low budgets. Inventive cheap DIY solutions to problems.
Perhaps instead of talking me through scene break downs of big budget films and serials, it might be more relevant to this community to have those same professionals break down scenes from some of their very first Indy projects, when they had no budget and no crew. How did they some those problems, and what steps did they take that lead them from that point to where they are now.
Perhaps instead of trying to make up genre specific scenes like this video, present it as a challenge to do the best job possible with X budget for all equipment and dressing where X never exceeds $500.
We wouldn't see C-stands anymore if that's what they have to work with.
ua-cam.com/video/3LWBaXRciWo/v-deo.htmlm17s
@@Thats_my_Point A used c-stand costs almost the same price as a brand new c-stand. That isn't helpful to anyone Casey
TJ Marx perhaps you didn’t catch the brilliance of what you said. Buy used. It can’t be more used that used. If you choose to sell it, you get the same price as what you bought it for. It’s essentially free and you get to have the best tool in the business until you sell it. I was in the same boat for years, but I learned that what keeps people from moving forward is “knowing what they will lose ($100 (for a while)), but not imagining what they will gain”
How to Wes Anderson 101
Good video, but it's not the ultimate guide. I need a 7 to 8-foot long overhead camera sliding mount...
Whether or not they're wearing a mask is like drawing a name out of a hat.
WTF my ears are dying with those peak audio levels 😅
😍😍😍😍
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I need help
Who wants to use such a gigantic lighting setup? I don’t! You’re so wrong not giving us lighting options! I want something very slim and compact.
You’re welcome to adjust the lighting to your tastes. This is how we got these results, which are nice. There are 1000 ways to skin this cat, just be sure to share with us what you did and how it turned out
Cool if I shamelessly promote my 360 overhead shot video? :) it got no views 😭
Also got a video on some cheap stands you can use for overheads as well, but they raised the price a bit on em and they aint really soooo cheap anymore. Still cheaper than a cstand though
So I guess only single people can use the Matthews
On the side note add 3k on lighting but still use a phone and cheap phone stand. Come on man!
You have the freedom to apply the idea to whatever lights you have
Okay great! All I need is $15000. No problem :)
I love you guys, but PLEASE, fix your sound. Gain set to peak at -18dBfs. lol
1st viewer
there is way to much stuff on that table
10-15$for the clamp. Except in canada where its $50! And thats not even the one you used in the video....
You need to get on top of your audio
4th
ok I just stopped watching as soon as I saw that you mounted the phone wrong.
Yeah, videography video with terrible audio. Nice
Stop with the iPhone nonsense
Man you guys really ripped of Aputure Channel. Uncreative
😂