The other point it's hard to get a position at most maang companies. Especially as a entry level developer. I've been a senior software engineer for a couple years with a decade of programming experience. And even still, it is extremely selective.
Very insightful video and I love how you shared your personal experiences as well! I work as a professor in Higher Ed, my department being that of Information Technology. Cyber Security is by and large our most popular major. Though, anecdotally at least, a lot of our incoming students are more sold on the "brand" of cyber security more than what it actually entails. I think it is also worth mentioning that there are simply more software developer positions available out there compared to cyber security positions because of how the software development lifecycle works
Hey Sandra I bought some of your Cyber Security Resources and they were a tremendous help. Please continue to do what you do and give people the tools and advice they need to start their careers.
Talk about cyber security and show cyber security analysts as example that pays significantly less than the software engineer. Meanwhile in pentesting... Seriously though, give that a look if you're considering cyber security. Also, some great advice about salary negotiations.
Great point about leaving a company right now. Inflation is so wicked right now that the last place I worked people were starting at thousands more than I was making at the company 4-5 years. Same job title. Jumping jobs step in title was a 25K/yr pay bump(System Admin/Tier two Service Desk) to Systems Engineer. Yes 4 year IT degree too.
I saw this SO much in my previous company, my coworker had 20+ yrs of experience and we were making very similar salaries, they just happened to stay within the same company their entire career, it really sucks that companies arent putting more effort into paying their most loyal employees, I really think backwards salary matching is going to have to become a thing if companies want to keep their talent from going elsewhere with better pay and promotions
Yeah I figured over the 100K total compensation club is vesting in the company stock from what I see 3+ years. Still good though for less tax percentage hit.
Ive never thought about making a video about this until now, this is why I love you guys's video suggestions lol! Will definitely be making a vid on the future of cyber security jobs/industry!
Yeah, that's something I've been worried about too. Lot of SIEM tools and even firewalls seem to be automating tasks recently. Also, the affect of everything shifting from infra to cloud eventually.
An intern of any kind is getting no more than 1500€ (most internships are even paid lower than that) for 3 months (anything lasting more than 3 months isn't considered an internship) in Greece 🙃
I’m wanting to learn coding. What route do you recommend me go by? I have no college experience I barely finished high school. I was looking at the bootcamps online and I even bought a beginners course coding book but it’s still confusing learning on my own. I am also interested in cybersecurity as well. Which would be easier to get into? I am working a full time job living on my own so I need to be able to work around that as well.
My best tip for you is to be at peace with the long haul. When you see professional code released you often don’t see rough drafts and abandoned projects. Even partially completed projects are often released only by those who are well grounded and comfortable in their work. Pick a language and come up with an idea for something really simple. No GUIs at first just simple scripts in a single language that you want to learn. You likely won’t master it quickly and that’s okay. You must be at peace with this. I’ve been in the industry for almost 8 years and still reference the basics all the time. Some people can memorize the dang encyclopedia but the rest of mortals simply just can’t and that’s okay but it’s no excuse to cut corners. If you use a specific language a lot or frequent the same or similar methods across languages then you’ll likely memorize those fairly quick. And always use the official documentation when learning the basics, this is especially true with your first couple of languages. Let’s say that you want to learn Python. You would go to the documents page on the official language site. docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html www.w3schools.com/python/ Work on reading initially and pace yourself at a reasonable pace. This is highly subjective. Some people can stomach 3+ hours a day but some can only put up with 30 minutes a day. Find what is sustainable to you and stick to it every single day until you complete your goal. Stick to it everyday and try your best to be creative and you’ll find your way to success! Good luck!!
Don't think about "what is easier to get into". Think about what you want to do. Cyber is more intensive than people tell you. If you enjoy being an incident response analyst and responding to on call security incidents and rapid fires, that's the entry level security job. If you enjoy building things (like mini apps or games), software is the way to go. Focus on working towards what sounds more appealing to you.
@@risingvikings5834 thanks for the advice. I think software sounds more appealing, since I’m a creative person and think outside the box. Cybsec might get boring to me and always being on call like that would suck since I have a life.
@@nicolaypastore Yeah, while the pay for security is higher, it's not always worth it. Granted, you can always transition into a role in security that isn't incident response and become an application security engineer, but you'll need those software skills first and experience with the CI/CD pipeline and SDLC.
@@risingvikings5834 what certifications do you recommend for software dev? I am going to be looking at bootcamp/classes online. Also will being an IT Specialist for now look good on my resume when I trying to get a softdev job?
The other point it's hard to get a position at most maang companies. Especially as a entry level developer. I've been a senior software engineer for a couple years with a decade of programming experience. And even still, it is extremely selective.
Very insightful video and I love how you shared your personal experiences as well!
I work as a professor in Higher Ed, my department being that of Information Technology. Cyber Security is by and large our most popular major. Though, anecdotally at least, a lot of our incoming students are more sold on the "brand" of cyber security more than what it actually entails. I think it is also worth mentioning that there are simply more software developer positions available out there compared to cyber security positions because of how the software development lifecycle works
Hey Sandra I bought some of your Cyber Security Resources and they were a tremendous help. Please continue to do what you do and give people the tools and advice they need to start their careers.
I'm so glad they've been helpful for you :D really appreciate your support and wishing you all the best in your cyber security career!!
The worst is when companies don't do yearly salary increases or cost of living adjustments!!
Nice video. Sometime down the line, a video focused on how to negotiate would be appreciated.
Talk about cyber security and show cyber security analysts as example that pays significantly less than the software engineer.
Meanwhile in pentesting...
Seriously though, give that a look if you're considering cyber security. Also, some great advice about salary negotiations.
Great point about leaving a company right now. Inflation is so wicked right now that the last place I worked people were starting at thousands more than I was making at the company 4-5 years. Same job title. Jumping jobs step in title was a 25K/yr pay bump(System Admin/Tier two Service Desk) to Systems Engineer. Yes 4 year IT degree too.
I saw this SO much in my previous company, my coworker had 20+ yrs of experience and we were making very similar salaries, they just happened to stay within the same company their entire career, it really sucks that companies arent putting more effort into paying their most loyal employees, I really think backwards salary matching is going to have to become a thing if companies want to keep their talent from going elsewhere with better pay and promotions
@@WithSandra I totally agree. Thanks for sharing.
Good video!! Wow that's a lot of techniques :)
Thanks so much Luca! :)
Great comparison, thank you for sharing this knowledge! :)
Great job you guys! I really enjoy the videos you do together! Thank you!
Aw thank you so much John!! :) We appreciate you too :D
Yeah I figured over the 100K total compensation club is vesting in the company stock from what I see 3+ years. Still good though for less tax percentage hit.
very informative😁
Glad this was helpful Derek! ☺️
Didn't know you were from the Philly area. Which school did you go to?
Just give us your salary….. we can look this up ourself smh
What will happen in the cybersecurity industry in the future? A video about it please 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Ive never thought about making a video about this until now, this is why I love you guys's video suggestions lol! Will definitely be making a vid on the future of cyber security jobs/industry!
As the world becomes more and more digital the demand will only increase.
Yeah, that's something I've been worried about too. Lot of SIEM tools and even firewalls seem to be automating tasks recently. Also, the affect of everything shifting from infra to cloud eventually.
this is niceee
Thanks for watching Rivi :)!
Imagine watching a video about learning a salary and not seeing anything
And here I am, as an intern software engineer working for 24k euros in Spain. What a joke
An intern of any kind is getting no more than 1500€ (most internships are even paid lower than that) for 3 months (anything lasting more than 3 months isn't considered an internship) in Greece 🙃
@@Madame_Blue mine is for 6 months💀
You’re getting paid at least as an intern.
Hey can you talk about negotiating after the offer?
I plan on making a video about this topic for sure!! Thanks for the recc Gabriel :)
Great thought, that would be a great video. The art of negotiating is real!
Thanks
I’m wanting to learn coding. What route do you recommend me go by? I have no college experience I barely finished high school. I was looking at the bootcamps online and I even bought a beginners course coding book but it’s still confusing learning on my own. I am also interested in cybersecurity as well. Which would be easier to get into? I am working a full time job living on my own so I need to be able to work around that as well.
My best tip for you is to be at peace with the long haul. When you see professional code released you often don’t see rough drafts and abandoned projects. Even partially completed projects are often released only by those who are well grounded and comfortable in their work.
Pick a language and come up with an idea for something really simple. No GUIs at first just simple scripts in a single language that you want to learn. You likely won’t master it quickly and that’s okay. You must be at peace with this.
I’ve been in the industry for almost 8 years and still reference the basics all the time. Some people can memorize the dang encyclopedia but the rest of mortals simply just can’t and that’s okay but it’s no excuse to cut corners. If you use a specific language a lot or frequent the same or similar methods across languages then you’ll likely memorize those fairly quick.
And always use the official documentation when learning the basics, this is especially true with your first couple of languages. Let’s say that you want to learn Python. You would go to the documents page on the official language site.
docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html
www.w3schools.com/python/
Work on reading initially and pace yourself at a reasonable pace. This is highly subjective. Some people can stomach 3+ hours a day but some can only put up with 30 minutes a day. Find what is sustainable to you and stick to it every single day until you complete your goal.
Stick to it everyday and try your best to be creative and you’ll find your way to success! Good luck!!
Don't think about "what is easier to get into". Think about what you want to do. Cyber is more intensive than people tell you. If you enjoy being an incident response analyst and responding to on call security incidents and rapid fires, that's the entry level security job.
If you enjoy building things (like mini apps or games), software is the way to go. Focus on working towards what sounds more appealing to you.
@@risingvikings5834 thanks for the advice. I think software sounds more appealing, since I’m a creative person and think outside the box. Cybsec might get boring to me and always being on call like that would suck since I have a life.
@@nicolaypastore Yeah, while the pay for security is higher, it's not always worth it. Granted, you can always transition into a role in security that isn't incident response and become an application security engineer, but you'll need those software skills first and experience with the CI/CD pipeline and SDLC.
@@risingvikings5834 what certifications do you recommend for software dev? I am going to be looking at bootcamp/classes online. Also will being an IT Specialist for now look good on my resume when I trying to get a softdev job?
This was like indeed on Read aloud. WHERE ARE THE NUGGETTTTTSS.
Which is less stressful
She’s done comparison videos on this