Choosing a Coach, Uncomfortable NMCs & the Wild West | Real Kyper & Bourne Full Episode
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- Nick Kypreos, Justin Bourne and Sam McKee start with the latest on the Leafs' coaching, Craig Berube, Todd McLellan and the future of John Tavares. Jason Bukala breaks down the Leafs’ draft capital, prospect pool and contract conundrums. Kevin Lowe discusses a fiery Canucks/Oilers matchup. Aarif Deen chats about the Avalanche’s biggest concerns ahead of a pivotal Game 4 against Dallas.
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0:00 - Leafs’ Head Coaching Search & John Tavares
31:25 - Jason Bukala on the Leafs’ Asset Pool
54:32 - Kevin Lowe on Canucks/Oilers
1:16:27 - Aarif Deen Analyzes the Avalanche & Bruins/Panthers Recap
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Rod has only won 6 straight first rounds, won a cup as a player, multiple ecf appearances, and won the metro countless times and these guys compared him to sheldon keefe 😂😂😂😂. Shows how much they watch the Canes. Man on man physical defense, one of the most disciplined teams in the NHL, and peppering teams with shots. Please watch more puck fellas
And yet they are constantly considered underachievers. Because they underachieve. Barely hanging on again against the Rangers. And Carolina is done with him.
@@danielhansen9203 and yet you make no sense
It’s not Kyper and Bourne, it’s the producer guy Sam who used to be behind the camera and talk every once in a while who for some unknown reason is basically the 3rd host of the show now. Not sure why, no offense to the guy but he’s cringeworthy.
I don't think they are comparing their careers or records. They were comparing their coaching philosophy and methodology in systems and favouring similar plays.
Kype will use every chance to remind people he has a cup ring. He knows what he's talking about.
Connor Bedard has four goals in two games at the World's. Maybe JT will decide that he wants to play with him in Chicago.
Canucks are playing good playoff hockey…but you only talk about how good oil could be? Please…
People still don't believe in the nucks. Reminds me of when Trotz took over the islanders.
Yup. Vancouver is apparently dead in the water if the "good" oilers show up. How about this take. Vancouver is good and the oilers don't have much of an answer. Maybe Vancouver is playing better hockey and the reason the oilers are bad I'd because Vancouver is good. No no no, that won't fit the narrative so I guess they're just lucky.
@@1983skeletorwhich is bizarre because Skinner couldn’t save a beach ball, their D is porous and suspect at best, the bottom 6 is invisible, only 3 forwards have scored and they’re ineffective as a team 5v5.
But the Oilers are contenders! Lol.
@@1983skeletor wtf… are you drunk or stoned? What kind of crazy take is that?!? How can the canucks be good if the oilers are good? The oilers must be playing bad because the canucks just can’t be good 🤔😂
@@toasty862 EVERYONE has given up on the canucks. But, they keep plugging along… this team is just different.
Todd M won a Cup with the Wings as an assistant coach. Yes, he wasn’t a head coach, but he was in charge of the Wings offense and power play for 3 years (ranked #1 in the league) He played a large role in the Wings going all the way and winning. He knows what it takes. Not saying he’s the best candidate for the Leafs, but Sam seemingly doesn’t know much about him.
Lidstrom ran the power play bud. Way higher hockey IQ than Todd
gotta protect our stars?? are you kidding me? hughes was cut on the face by Mc Highstick....nothing. kane slew foot him...nothing. both right in front of the refs. just a refresher, hughes is the best defence man in the league.should win the norris unless he gets screwed because he plays for the red headed stepson of the league. (that's the canucks). by all means, if we're going to protect the stars, let's not get too selective about it.
Dude, those are also failures of officiating.
Yeah, they wanna protect our stars. The only star is out there play for Edmonton Oilers according to everybody I don't want to protect her stars they want to protect the Oilers.
Hughes is in the convo as best dman in the league, but if I’m building a franchise from scratch today, I’m still taking Makar, and I think a lot of people in the hockey world would too. Don’t get me wrong, Hughes is a stud and likely Norris trophy winner in a few weeks, but best in the league, let’s wait a few years to see if Hughes can take that final step to reach Makar, or a younger Hedman, or Josi.
Protect our stars is one thing, but McDavid is considered THE best single player in the game, and the face of the entire league. You might not like that fact, but the hockey world has anointed him that position. So yes, I agree, protecting our stars should be across the board, but Mc Highstick as you put it, is simply treated on his own at the top-just gotta live with that.
According to most Leafs fans Morgan Reilly is better than Hughes, Makar, McAvoy and Montour even though they are all active every single shift and you see them impacting the game every single shift, yet Reilly is the Golden boy that can do no wrong and he’s affordable to their salary cap.
Worst PP in the league and also not a 1st pairing defender LOL
Florida Panthers fan and I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this! 100% agree with you guys!
John can go look like a hero with the promise of coming back next year if he wants at a team discount. He will be a hero here.
GREAT Podcast Guy's
why doesn't shorty does the play by play for the BC market?
Because Sportsnet is too cheap to do two broadcasts and they don't consider Shorty a 'national' broadcaster. My cable package, like most, comes with 6 different Sportsnet channels. With the tech today, it wouldn't be that hard to bring in both groups and have the regular Oiler guys comment on the feed for Sportsnet West and Shorty cover the feed for Sportsnet Pacific, but Sportsnet is apparently not that forward thinking.
What happened to the sweep 23 outta 24 analysts were talking about? Always talking about what the oilers are doing wrong, not an analyst is talking about what the Canucks are doing right.
Because Silovs is outplaying Skinner-that’s it, really easy reason why canucks are up in the series. Skinner might single-handidly destroy the oilers chances this year.
@@donovans. The Oilers has a better first line, the Canucks have better Defense, Goaltending and overall depth. thats why the Canucks will win
To be fair 23 out of 24 said Oilers gonna win but most of them said in 5 or 6....maybe 1 or 2 said Oilers will sweep if that.
Not defending those guys because ultimately none of them gave Canucks any chance but just saying not 23 out of 24 said it would be a sweep like you say
Yes, it’s Matthews team and Marner never should have been given the “A”.
cant spell snow flake without the A
Nor can you spell suck without the c
Marner's still a kid. Can't handle pressure. He'll do great as supporting cast instead.
This bukala guy is awesome
Great show today 😁🇨🇦
OnTravares as center, who wins more faceoffs?
Huge leaf fan here love the show...anyone know if there a general hockey show for the whole league anywhere close to this level? Nothing ive seen comes close to this show so far ❤
I’m a Sabres fan, there’s nothing out there with the quality and groove these 3 have together. Unfortunately.
NHL network is really good. But usually it’s short clips. Former players, management, analysis, analytics, etc.
nothing like this
nhl network doesn’t have anything this good. These guys have natural chemistry and it shows. My only criticism is kyper coming up with nutbag scenarios for trades or potential player movement.
Only sports show as entertaining is first things first but they only cover football and basketball...was hoping something all around on this level for hockey...but as a leafs fan I'm clearly spoiled and lucky 😜
No volume?
Its fixed
FUn fact since your camping the channel, it doesnt have time to render the audio in the seconds you click on it so plz stop whinying about it.
@@judistzoinkiski3395Huh? And you actually edited that?!
So you guys probably know better than me, but stripping JT and handing it to Matthews, what's the difference going to be? Matthews has been here for every embarrassment all these years past, where was his leadership then? Where were his leadership qualities hiding, because I sure didn't see any of that. This could be more pinning the tail on the donkey then grabbing the reins of the thoroughbred to finally lead us down the backstretch and over the finish line.
Matthews ain’t a natural leader, his freakin mentor is Justin bieber for christs sake! A fully grown man who idiolizes a trash celeb ain’t gonna have much credibility as a leader in an nhl locker room.
Tavares has one year left on his contract. This idea he has to go this year… doesn’t pass the smell test and neither does trading Marner. The Leafs offense will fall off a cliff if they get rid of Marner. Yes he played bad in the playoffs but I believe that has more to do with poor coaching and zero accountability from the coach….
Also: do you think the new coach wants to jettison Marner? He brings more than just offense. Matthews and Nylander only is not the same offense. Marner is 100 point player. A new coach will get much more out of him. If not then you look at moving on. But I do not believe that will happen with a final year to prove himself in the playoffs and an actual experienced coach in place….
Bottom-line; Tavares and marner get to decide, no one else, not kyper, not anyone in the leafs org, it’s totally Tavares and marner’s calls.
I agree with you 100%. I’ve been saying tough love is what he needs.
There decision’s will be impacted and fast-tracked now that they realize they’ll be getting booed off the ice LOL
Tavares I can see playing out his contract, Marner would have to enjoy the hate at this point to not waive, although you are correct, it’s their choice
One of the greats 👍 K.L. Champ 🏆
I disagree re: Marner and Tavares. These conversations are not with the players…they’re with their agents. And the agents won’t carry that narrative. Do we remember who Marner’s agent is???
All agents negotiate ON BEHALF of the players
Ya he's name is Ferris and he made Dubas his little b
How do you not see a goalie grab a stick buried in a scrum trying to make a save? Probably harder to see than McDavid slashing Hughes across the face in open ice. What an embarrassment NHL officiating is.
You guys talk about the team playing dirty (27:35). If the team played dirty what prevents JT and Marner from playing dirty. I'm not waiving my NMC but im walking out the door for free agency. Not only do you loose 160 points a year in 2 players but you get 0 draft picks and prospects in return.
Hello guys, what i think is that Mathieu will be the next captain?
Comparing Rod to Sheldon Keefe may be the worst take of 2024
What about Tavares for Couture? Couture is younger ,playoff star and leader in the locker room. Toronto gets Tavares off the books and of Couture can't play he can go on injured reserve or LTIR and Toronto gets more cap space
I like the idea, but will JT accept a trade to SJ, he wants a chance to play for a cup
Dr. Kypreos, well played sir.. this was a brilliant discussion on the psychology of the players. I woulda rather had Willy Styles in San Jose (that’s when we coulda offered Karl in return) I love Ferrari (Mario Ferraro) and cap Clutch/Cooch but maybe Tavares goes to lead in San Jose for another 5-6 years in return. Train the “Shark Reef” (Locked on Sharks reference) but I could see it. I want Tavares to succeed and those guys to win a cup. I also think Marner $100 sheets/mil for Marner to another Canadian team, get Markstrom (before Jersey) or Hellebyuck (away from a bad playoff performance) I’d trade Marner to the West preferably rather than Detroit, to maybe Chicago for Seth Jones… or whatever. I see Marner or Rielly to Nashville to get Saros and/or Schenner/O’Reilly back in the mix, but they prolly all love Nashville so Rielly or Marner may waive for a team/lifestyle in Nashvegas the country music capital of the world!! I was so high on Zadorov, I said in my vlog you’d need to trade Marner for him/Tanev. Lastly, they gotta move out these giant salaries immediately because you’re losing AM34 prime years by the minute. Tavares welcome to the Sharks! 🦈 😅
Go Canucks Go!
So by your logic Mcdavid can do what he wants with no punishment? Are you for real?
Why cant you force both out?
I would eat JT’s 11M next year if it means we get him as a 4th line Center for 1-2M in the future. His face off skills and net front presence alone beats every Kampf in the league, regardless of foot speed.
It will be a significant contrast if Berube becomes the Head Coach and Matthews becomes the captain. The $13M figure skater, who disappears into nothing in the playoffs, and a hardnosed head coach who expects his players to step up and be men. Matthews will be expected to put on his big girl panties in the post season.
Canucks depth top to bottom are showing up the Oilers one-line bullshit. The further this series goes will expose it even more.
It’s actually Silovs outplaying Skinner, otherwise this series would clearly be a 2-1 lead for the Oilers. Skinner’s play has single-handidly put the Oilers on the brink.
It's between Berube,Todd M, Gallant next leafs coach. Maybe keep other top guys as offensive coaches.
love the cab comment lol
Tree is very respectful of players and thier situations.... he will do what is best for the player under contract and will honor thier right. If he doesn't, other guys won't sign with him.
Bukala all day
The players should all have a one year contract then they might play better not noing if they have a job for the next season
So this to guys knows there is other teams in NHL to talk about?
Wait for Quenville availability
Matts Sundin refused a trade and took some Heat and then signed with Vancouver as a Fre Agent. What;s wrong with offering Tavaras 2 years at 7 million.
Did not mention the Brodie contract will be off the books
No audio!!!!!!!
Its fixed
Quennville doesn't need to be rushed..... we can wait.
Tavares played the Islanders, so I fully understand their hate on him. They deserved better. His lack of character showed on that move, so he may be a bit toxic.
So what's the point of a no move clause? To hold it over someone's head and say "see, he won't waive it, he's a bad guy"
The player gets to pick and choose where they go
Kipper is reaching with that argument about Tavares or Marner headed for purgatory if they stay and finish their contracts with the Leafs. Kipper is using gorilla logic to rationalize why Tavares and marner should both waive. Not gonna happen, at least one of them will play out their deal with the leafs.
50:27 Sammy with the goon take exaggerating the McDavid slash (it was mild, not wild, and didn't move Soucy's knee) while leaving out the fact that Soucy pushed him first.
For "motivating" Tavares to move out, Treliving can simply tell him that they will buy him out to get back his contract slot!
Hard to watch Kevin Lowe when the real reason the Oilers are where they are is that people like him didn’t build the team properly. I guess you couldn’t ask him why senior management could never figure out how to put a serious contending roster together.
Maybe Nylander's migrane and head ache becomes so bad, that he cant play much on nxt season. Could that solve the cap hit problem?
Mitch Marner is a talented player, but in play offs he has not shown his killing instinct. The Q is, has he has.
Maybe he should be traded, but in return they need new blood with killer instinct attitude.
Tavares is in bad situation too. The management have to play their cards carefully with him. With his salary level so high, he is not easy to trade.
On top of that, the winning goalie is needed, although the series against Boston did not fall down on goalkeeper.
I don't really see why the league can't let Quenneville come back...he'll be back next season at the latest
I want Marner and Tavares on the Leafs. HOWEVER. Marner should be paid 9.0 million and no more. Let him go if he wants more. Tavares should get a 2 year 5.0 million deal. If he wants more let him walk. Both of these players have value but are currnetly being paid above their market value.
Please hire Craig!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sundin didn’t waive.
If I’m the Leafs,,, I try to ship Marner to Columbus for Werenski,,, I know he’s another guy who has a NMC but maybe he wants to play with Mathews you can sell that , plus he’s a #1 D and he’s 26! Montour is great and if you want him go after him but with the JT $ ,,, plus this way you are protected if you lose Montour, if you get him then,,, you have a D core of Werenski, Montour , Reilly , and McCabe now that’s a top 4 on D,,,,PS the secret weapon in Van/Edm series is Foote, he’s the D core coach and he’s got that D core playing great and aggressive, so much so that they have a #3 goalie playing and winning!
That’s not a bad trade idea. Usually all I read is one-sided biased trade scenarios. If werenksi is willing to waive, it could work, with some draft picks attached.
JT wants to win a cup, not going to a team that is rebuilding, will happen after July 1st, and needs to happen quick after that or there won’t be any players for them to sign
Only Joel Quenneville ...
1967…
i can also see montgomery being let go is the Bruins lose in 5. another team looking possibly
Does Johnny go to Chicago for a 2nd. Imagine Johnny and Mitch go to same team, Johnny scores 40 and Mitch get 115 pts setting Johnny up. 😂 Johnny, Mitch, Lilly pad for Markstrom, Weegar, Anderson
I'll bet anyone 10k there not going anywhere
go todd!!
we officially support Sam as a canucks guy!
The rest of the league doesn’t value Marner and Tavares like you guys do in TO. Even tho it’s only 1 yr, nobody is taking Marner’s cap without getting an asset in return. And as far as Tavares goes, it’ll cost likely cost TO a minimum of a 1st rounder to unload. Only other way is if TO retains salary. It’s incredibly rare for a high skilled player (Marner) in to be in the last year of his deal, while in his prime, and still be overpaid. The kid will probably fight tooth and nail to stay in TO as that’s the only team who he can sponge every last nickel of the cap in his next contract negotiations. No other team values him like TO does.
Edit: no other playoff contender values Marner like TO does. They see a $9.5M regular season player and a $3.5M postseason player.
Hey Kyper shut about about not wanting JT out of all available centers this year he would be the best he did take less money to come here he was offered 13 it’s the last year of his contract and you know next year will be a team friendly it’s marner who has to go you can’t have 2 wingers making the kind of money him and nylander make
i understand sammy trying to run marner out of town, he's stupid and his balls haven't dropped yet....we then have 3 grown men, who supposedly know anything about hockey trying to do the same. this idea you intentionally make a bad trade to get cap space for montour lmao. you might as well trade everyone and re-build again because you're wasting my time.
Elliott"Keefe is the now Favourite for NJ HC" NO THANKS not over Woodcroft NO sir. DEvils have been waiting to see what happens with Sully and now they gonan wait even longer cuz Rod might be there. But Dev have tmrw to Thurs since they said we will ahve a HC in 7-10 days and that was on the 7th, Give me Woodcroft i dont want Mclellan,Gallant or anyone other than woody and berube.
You think cowen will make the team next year? He’s lighting up the OHL yes but he’s too young & not playing grown men. He will struggle his first few years in the league likely due to his size. Typical leafs thought process
Welcome to the Canucks bandwagon :P
Marner to Chicago if he wants too sign and trade 8 yr at 90mill... ...picks come back hawks get him with Beddard.. Leafs can spent on 1 D and 1 forward guy need a change!!!
Chicago is at the cap floor, so they can afford it. But I do think they will make sure that there is not an NMC attached to the contract.
I'd rather have Keefe back than McLelland
When Mich leaves. Kyper will be in a state of morning like someone died for weeks. He might breakdown.
LMAO. What kind of fumes are you guys high on? Marner is going to waive his NMC to go to Columbus!?!?
Sportsnet… what a joke!
Yeah kyper definitely seems to be incurring early onset dementia or some mental incapacity. I get that they have to speculate to drive viewership and ratings, but some of the stuff he throws out there is nuts.
The captain should be a smart and gritty player, not the highest scoring player. Just sayin.
Why does the leafs think they can sign any one over an American team?
You can sure tell these guys are all oiler fans?
Huh? Sammy on record choosing canucks to win the series before it started. Kyper said the series will go the distance. Only Bourne decisively chose the oilers to win.
Cape Breton Eagles!
Berube = Babcock. Leafs are yoyos.
I like Barube But if it wasn’t for the hottest goalie on the planet at the time he doesn’t win that Cup. As for McLelland not a chance, might as well keep Keefe . I’d go hard after Quenville And Betman about it.
Agreed on berube. McClellan though, is heavy on the leafs radar, not just kyper, but all the leafs insiders suggesting he’s either the front runner or in a close second.
Sammy at the end on Bennet is hilarious Dp
Really, you think JT is worth an 11M cap hit for any shlupp team .. maybe.. your minions agree, but they are not going to making any decisions anywhere
3 yrs at 10 million for Domi is fair for his skill set.
Lol , buddy are high
@@AK-ix6xg 3.33 Mill a year times 3.
@@stephenphillips6245 Ya I get it ....but more 2,2 -2.5 top for him
@@AK-ix6xg I agree with your financial appraisal of Domi, but the cap has gone up...gotta pay a bit more.
@@stephenphillips6245 They need so much , an upgrade on D , a goalie more secondary scoring...I don't know bro but Domi definitely has heart
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Fools would conspire to trade Marner and scapegoat him...guess what the Loaf "brain" trust will do.
Why not choosing a new city instead of a new coach? 🤭
You guys are delusional. Marner has to go. Not only is he not not able to carry his own weight in the playoffs, but his stupid competitive attitude when it comes to his contract, always wanting more than Willy and Matthews is bound to cause salary cap problems for years to come - AGAIN! Ship him out! Toronto is allowed to sign team friendly contracts too guys.
Brind'Amour will sign in Toronto.
Hes won nothing... nothing with an arguably better team
He’s staying in Carolina. The rangers offered him the highest salary in the nhl coaching fraternity last off season-and he turned it down! He loves Carolina for family reasons, that’s why he’s stayed at below mkt value, and will stay beyond this season, on another below mkt value contract extension.
Don’t hate him… I appreciate anybody who has an objective perspective
Vancouver fan here, sam is a legend
Of course he is, cuz he chose the canucks to win the series. If he’d chosen the oilers, you’d be saying he’s the biggest fraud in sports media.
@@donovans. not really he gives unbiased takes, I didn’t even know he chose Vancouver.
Little pissed that's an understatement mc crybaby got away again the leagues, a joke they only penalize the tough players all these so-called superstars never get in trouble no matter what they do he started it. He should've either gotten a Fine or suspension as well.
I don’t think you watch oiler games-throughout the season he was grabbed, hooked, held etc non stop, and maybe drew a penalty once in a few games. If you add up how much the refs chose to ignore during the season, the oilers would’ve had 500 pp’s!
bye bye pajama boy and that Bukala is more than likely wrong with literally everything that he said
Move on from the Sam man boys
Rob brindamore cant get past first round with a team that was supposed to be better then the leafs he not it over rated coach
Lol what? You drunk?
Canes are in round 2 and even if they lose to the rangers, the rangers are the best team in the east this year.
Leafs suck
Sheldon Keef will win a Cup long before any Leafs coach
I’ll state now and always, Bourne ruins the show. Dudes a pancake
Did he steal your gf in high school ?
@@donlahaye1340 LOL how’s that relevant? I don’t think he’s good. He’s got average takes. He’s a pleaser. I don’t respect anyone with that outlook.
Agreed, he seems like he doesn’t wanna be there, just collecting the paycheck cuz he’s got a young family to feed. He comes across as a dude that does like 5 minutes of prep before going on air.
Up here in cup country and oir game aka canada. We rarely get to see Dallas. Seems Dallas actually ready to be the beast in west. Man they r very very good nasty 200 foot club!!!..relentless. fun to watch if u love this game and knkw it. Hard to find any club capable.of dealing with mighty panthers. But as fsr as west goes. Be fun to see Dallas and canucks go toe to toe. See who even jas shot at panthers. Stars r nasty.
Enough Cottonelle, we need Balls Of Steel! This is what The TML's need in a Coach, I think Craig Berube fits the bill. The TML's players need a kick in the rear-end. Go Leafs Go! Go Leafs Go! 🇨🇦🍁🏒🥅👌👍