Here's Why England Was HATED By The Irish People
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2023
- By the 1840s, Ireland was securely under British rule. The tide of nationalism that began on the European continent and the rise of the popular press had energized the nascent Irish nationalist movement, but London’s control was reasonably certain. Ireland itself was a land of contrasts: wealthy developed urban areas like Belfast and Dublin were comparable to major British cities, but millions still eked out difficult lives in the rural counties.
The key to survival for this farming population was the potato. Potatoes were introduced from the Americas in the 16th century and their extremely high yield per acre made them an excellent staple food source. By 1845, Ireland was growing 15 million tons of potatoes per year and they provided most of the calorie intake for about 3 million people. Contrary to popular stereotypes, the Irish also grew many other crops like wheat, oats, barely, and peas, but potatoes were far and away the most important crop for the country.
Enter Phytophthora Infestans, better known as potato blight. Originating in the potato’s homeland of America, blight is a fungal infection that thrives in damp environments and causes infected crops to wither away into inedible black mush. It entered Europe early in the 1840s where it ravaged potato crops in places like Belgium and Holland. However, when it reached the shores of Ireland in 1845, the effects would be apocalyptic.
Famine Arrives
Blight ravaged the 1845 potato crop. This first blight was somewhat sporadic and it took weeks for officials to realize the scale of the disaster. Overall, about 40% of the entire country’s potato crop was ruined. The effect was particularly bad in the eastern, southern, and central regions of Ireland, with many counties reporting that the vast majority of the potatoes were lost. Ireland had faced famines before, there’d been one between 1800 and 1801 and another from 1816 to 1818, but this crisis would be another beast entirely.
Action was clearly needed and this responsibility fell upon the British government. However, in order to understand how the British responded, we need to cover a few things.
#angortamor #history #irishhistory
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Sources:
David Ross, Ireland: History of a Nation, (2002)
James S. Donnelly Jr, The Great Irish Potato Famine, (2001)
Neil Hegarty, The Story of Ireland: A History of the Irish People, (2011)
Ruth Dudley Edwards, It's time to get over the fact that the Great Famine was not genocide’, 4th October 2015, Independant.ie, www.independent.ie/opinion/it...
Tim Pat Coogan, The Famine Plot: England’s Role in Ireland’s Greatest Tragedy, (2012)
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As an Englishman this barely touches the surface as to what we did to the Irish people... If you look back to Cromwellian times you will see that we killed over half the population of Ireland. Our history in Ireland is absolutely appalling and never taught in British Schools.
Well said. 👍
Half the population?
! million?
2 million?
Source?
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As for defenders of a town,
they were given opportunity to surrender,
and if they chose not to,
putting the besieger
to the high cost of an attack,
he had the right on success
to put the defenders to the sword.
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This also happened sometimes in England
during the Civil War -
at Torrington in Devon, for example.
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Cromwell was a scumbag
To hell or to Connaught.
You'll never be an Englishman "whelan".
Gods bless the Choctaw Nation for their kind thoughts and contribution.
Worth about 6000 Euros today. It was a nice gesture but a drop in the bucket.
@@22grena you give what you can
@@22grenanice gesture !!! Marched from their lands at the tip of a bayonet ,marched for months trough the depths of winter loosing a quarter of their people along the way and a few years later they are scrapping what they can together to help people they do not know . As far as we’re concerned in Ireland they gave us the world entire . The 180 pound from the Choctaw dwarfs the 8000 pound from the famine queen .
Also Ottoman sultan Abdulmajid sent help, sheeps louded with food to Drogheda port
After the Trail of Tears, after so much persecution and betrayal, they weren't beaten down...they were still the noble people they always were.
What angers most of us Irish today is the fact that the British government and public seem to not acknowledge the atrocities that their ancestors committed upon my people. Nobody alive today in UK is responsible for what happened in the past but its important to educate both here and Britain to ensure it never happens again.
Well its a tough one, the working class English people were starving also..and the only people we can be all angry at is, a handfull of rich elite landowners who treated us all like dirt...so many in England have Irish ancestory (it's in the 10s of millions) and back then knobody knew this was going on, if it was today and Ireland were getting treated like that by the British elites, we would march on parliament and burn it to the ground.
@@alfreddunn03these p***ks are still doing it england is getting a taste of it now not nice is it 👍🇮🇪
@@alfreddunn03While I wouldn’t deny that many English people were mistreated by their own rulers, there was a unique viciousness employed by the Crown in Ireland, at least in the context of these islands. Consider the following quotation from Lord Trevelyan, the man who was supposed to be overseeing Famine relief:
“The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people."
@@alfreddunn03 True. I don't think anyone ever blamed ordinary people. But the general whitewashing gets irritating. Even nowadays ive had people lecture me because im irish on how the irish "brought it on themselves" because we were "selling our own food" which shows a gross and willful misunderstanding. Time has passed and we move on but its still difficult to not be bothered by documentaries sanitising the facts or comments like that from people. Its only a few generations back
Maybe because that was the way the world was in the past, the English could maybe demand an apology from the Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, etc. for the "atrocities" carried out against them by the Vikings!
I have descendants that died during the Famine as does most in Ireland. Seeing their names on the death register was something i will never forget. Men woman and children snuffed out for nothing but greed and hatred.
This is so sanitised. The full story is somewhat more sinister
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Triach fa la
Conas a bhíonn a fhios agat nuair a bhíonn Sasanach ina luí? Nuair a fheiceann tú a liopaí ag gluaiseacht.
That describes all of history. William wallace was actually disemboweled and chopped to pieces while alive.
@@brackloon4584 how do you know when a person is racist? - when he speaks it
The English poor were treated terribly by the government too... rich people or even those with a middle class income were not fighting for the poor of England during such famines..... the poor that were transported to Australia the children as well etc used as slaves... the human 'wealthy people' has always been cruel to those less fortunate.
Yeah, so if they were doing that to their own, just imagine what they’d done to people they had successfully dehumanized over decades?Centuries?
@@AgxntOrangeWhat about what the Irish did to England after the Romans left and before the Saxons came. Hundreds of thousands killed and taken into slavery. More powerful countries have always attacked less powerful ones.
@@interabang brought humane laws and peace and taught music and poetry , read up a bit , were welcomed by the Welsh too
Rich always fuck the poor, always have , always will
One of the problem with the grain imports was that the dried corn needed to be boiled for about 3 times longer than potatoes to cook it. Most people couldn't afford the fuel to do so, and it was often consumed undercooked which gave very little nutrition and caused additional health problems. The idea that it stemmed the caloric deficit is the result of calculating raw numbers without considering the true cost.
The under-cooked US corn (maize) shredded people's intestines, leaking the contents into the abdominal cavity and causing lethal peritonitis. Peritonitis is gangrene of the digestive tract which fills the abdominal cavity with pus. It is horribly painful and very difficult to treat, even now with powerful antibiotics. Back then, there weren't any antibiotics.
One crucial thing you forgot lad: only a small percentage of irish people can speak our own language. The English stamped out a lot of the ways for us to learn and speak it in everyday life
Less in Scotland. Englistan had a hissy fit when we put police & ambulance in Gaelic on our emergency vehicles.
@@Joshpox englishman pulling "facts" out of his arse. It's strange that you're perceived globally as obnoxious & arrogant. 🤔🤣 you'll be telling us next that you live in a white majority country! 😏
@@Joshpox "ancestry"? So your englistani. Why mention Strathclyde in particular? That's a council area? You an expert on councils now? You'll be telling us next that Arabic ISN'T the most widely spoken language in your country. "Promoted" you're drunk son
@@davie8906 Did they? Any regional decision making is at the behest of the local authorities. Unless you are referring to an age in centuries past when some part of what is now collectively known as Scotland had declared war on England - pre-1707 - then you are speaking nonsense.
YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF BROTHERS FROM FAR LANDS, THAT UNDERSTAND FIRSTHAND HOW YOU FEEL...WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND...
English here and working class. My grandfather was in the workhouse, only got out by running away with his brother, lying about their age and joining the army. I had family that staved on the streets of London, under the noses of their 'betters'. They stepped over their bodies,hanged them when hunger drove them to steal, transported them to Australia in conditions much the same as slaves. Now the council estates are being pulled down where they were not sold off, leaving us no where to live, unable to pay the inflated rents of the greedy. But none of my family harmed anyone. There's no war but class war. Every day, I see protests here. They are ignored like my family was ignored. No war but class war. In England, if you want to make a fortune, be a psychopath, care for no one but yourself, and most of all, be a greedy bustard. You'll go far.
Sadly, such views
destroyed tens of thousands of family companies and farms
that cared for their people.
In my own case,
all I wanted to do,
was employ.
I came to realise
that the marxist-prientated state
did not want this,
so I ceased operations.
The Marxists and the corporations
between them
wrecked the best of British,
leaving most things on foriegn hands.
/
The Price of Bitterness
is huge.
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I hear you brother, in this country, people who are the "salt of the earth" only ever get the salt of the earth, my parents were Irish (RIP) I was raised a patriotic English man, obviously with an affection for Ireland, all my paddy cousins used to give me loads about the famine, I used to say, yea, and at the same time 5 year old kids in London were having their lungs ruined by the age of 14 from sweeping chimneys, the rich have always been rich, and the decent have always been decent, just sadly, the two never mix.
It's pointless they want to blame all of us but never the wealthy Irish land owners who were as bad as the wealthy English and Scottish, like you my family are and always were working class my dad joined up at 17 years old to go and fight in WWII, I was born in a house with an outside loo and holes in the roof, I get tired of hearing about what "we" took from the world when the vast majority of us were living in poverty.
@@Paul-eb4jpThe Irish Landowners were English. Wealthy Ones. Yes I’m sure most of the English people were Laborers. But May have been Hungry. But Not Starved to Death. And May not have even Known what Was going on in Ireland 🤔
@@briancostello6892 Okay your ancestors (not you) had it tougher than my ancestors.
You "forgot" to mention that tons of food and agriculture were stolen from the country under armed guard, which is why the Irish were so relient on potatos. It's wasn't a famine it's was a genocide
By the Irish. What about the slaves the Irish took? Up to a million from the shores of Britain. St Patrick was one of them. Move on.
@@Dibley8899 Oh shut up! I guess your precious psycho Oliver Cromwell made up for it in the quarter of a million Irish men, women and children that he sold to slave ships bound for the Carribbean in just 10 years alone, and who knows how many during the entire penal times. The "famine", by the way, killed well over 1 million people. Move on, yourself, Percy.
@@Dibley8899another ignorant denier, ashamed of their abhorrent history. Your hated and always will be. Accept it.
Other foodstuffs are available
@@Dibley8899what nonsense, your time frame all over the place and Maewyn Succat was never a slave
You "forgot" to mention that the sultan of the ottoman empire went against the wishes of the queen and shipped many necessary supplies and food to the Irish, and there is still a plaque in Ireland remembering this show of compassion and sympathy.
I think I read that Queen Victoria had donated 1000 pounds and the UK government told the Ottoman Empire not to donate more because that would embarrass the Queen. Wisely they decided her majesty could get stuffed.
Boy, that speaks VOLUMES about the English sentiment against the Irish!
I was never made aware of this in school (in Ireland.)
@@MrFearDubh Like many similar stories, this is completely untrue. If you have any evidence to prove this, please provide it.
republican myth.
It was more of a genocide than a famine.
No, a genocide is a predetermined act to wipe out another race. As the video shows this was a fungus of which no human at the time would have had any idea of what it was. At the start of the famine the UK exported no food to Ireland and yet by the end of the famine Ireland was the largest recipient of UK food. The UK also transported huge numbers of Irish to other British colonies to help relieve the famine - no other country (including Ireland's old ally France) - lifted a finger. Those people went on to lead successful lives as have their descendents. It was only the USA which mistreated Irish immigrants keeping them in ghettos to die of disease and deporting them on an industrial scale (50,000) in a single 10 year period.....
What I don't understand is the hypocrisy of people like you. When the Jews were being exterminated by Hitler - and that was a genuine genocide - Ireland refused to help. When the whole free world joined together to fight Hitler and the Nazis Ireland still refused to help. That is a stain on Ireland's reputation that cannot be washed out, and, just makes you look like an ill-educated bigot.
True story
Why breed when you are living in a hovel?
@@lervish1966Because giving birth to new life makes you feel human❤as God said in The Holy Bible “Go forth and multiply”.. “Fill the Earth and be Fruitful”.. 😊 🥰 but as per usual satans disciples decide otherwise😡😏😒
@@lervish1966why call yourself leftish 1966
My mother, rest in peace, when discussing all the oppression in the world , only and always added ," Don't forget the Irish."
That was a part of a song they sang at UC Berkeley prior to the 1950's.
Which country hasn't been oppressed?
@@lervish1966England?
@@Fellowrser Have you heard of Vikings, Normans, Germans etc?
Was told by my Irish grandfather and grandmother never trust the english
A typical logical fallacy. Blaming the victim for his plight. 'It's because he is catholic' or 'It's because he is lazy' or 'It's because they are inferior humans'. Anything but genuine help to people in need.
We hear the same thing about human "animals" and "orcs" that stand against the British flow today.
@@leighz1962 What is 'The British Flow'?
@@mukhumor flag?
@@charcolew Yeah that comment makes a lotta sense Chapo.😜
They always blame the poor for their poverty
Cromwell sent word back to England that not even a pig would raise it’s head in Ireland again. During the famine, enough food left Ireland to feed the country three times over. It was loaded and shipped under the guns of British soldiers. When the decree was read banning the Irish language, it had to be read in Irish because so few people spoke English.
Your second point is addressed in the video
This is just the tip of the iceberg but one crucial omission of your video (of which there is many) is the nationality of these landlords and how the came about to own the land
Why does no one ever mention that that the actual cause of the famine was penal laws which forced people into depending on one crop...
Nonsense
Because then, it would be recognised as outright ethnic cleansing. Something which the british have denied throughout history and some less intelligent still do today. Example above.
@@brackloon4584 could I ask you're opinion on Gaza? Not brit bashing but why is the British media all Israel and indifferent to the thousands of Palestinians
@@edsenr2101 There will never be peace on stolen land. Conas a bhíonn a fhios agat nuair a bhíonn Sasanach ina luí? Nuair a bhíonn a liopaí ag gluaiseacht.
@@brackloon4584 they was too busy fighting and conquering - didn’t need words
You forgot to mention the British stamping out any use of the Irish natural language, Gaelige and among other customs. Punishing those who speak it. Those who wore green were hanged.
fr not only did they do that but they slaughtered hundreds of our people aswell as little kids with machine tanks FOR NO REASON. innocent people not even the ones trying to fight them
@@boyzinthewood1what separates the English and the British? Or in the context what is the key difference? Genuinely curious don't know much about that time
@hohooooooooify England is a country, Wales is a country, Scotland is a country. The 3 together make up Great Britain. However it was the English who invaded all countries individually over time. They ransacked each country, robbed them, raped them (Google Prima Nocta Scotland for a good idea of what I mean by that). They made all our languages illegal to speak, almost ruined our individual heritages. Then called it Great Britain 🇬🇧 This flag doesn't even represent my country on it at all.
@@boyzinthewood1 Worth noting the normans did the same to the English who refused to kneel after hastings with the harrying of the north. all of britain has effectively been enslaved by foreign elites for a thousand years. they still rule us now through their banking system, politics is all a show.
@@boyzinthewood1 it was the British
Good effort ! , however just a snapshot with much detail left out. Those landlords were for apartheid british system (catholics forbidden to own land) = land confiscation on mass. Your high praise for Soup kitchens u refer to were used by brits to bribe irish people to convert religion to receive food etc etc .
Wow. The British were brutal.
@@MasonJackson-yz9db yeah the Scottish were known for it - absolutely barbaric
@@MasonJackson-yz9db Anglo Saxon Viking Norman - what do you expect?
English warriors
@timkyne286 that is really terrible. We're not taught anything about the Irish famine in Great Britain
The soup thing is exaggerated. Most protestants were charitable and I am not particularly fond of protties. The rest is true though.
As a 'tip of the iceberg' synopsis this has some good points. The reality of what was done in that country is far, far darker.
The british ESTABLISHMENT, just as brutal to the brit workers, know you history- pat
The Irish aren’t exactly unicorns are they - gangs of New York?
@@EpicAelflaedYeah I wonder who forced them to get into that lifestyle in the first place?
@PeruvianPotato excellent comment... So, even when free of Britain, Irish criminality was the fault of the British?
Ireland has had over 100 years to advance by their own efforts. The early attempts to create a backwards looking Irish free state delayed advances...
30 years ago they brought in freeloading foreign companies that benefited from employees while giving little back. That is claimed to be the basis for their current success... so not strictly an Irish achievement either...
Yet Germany, hammered flat, was up and running within 30 years and a world beater within 50...
As an Irish Brit, resulting from the civil war exodus that saw folk run from Ireland to Britain, the enemy, I despair of the petty Irish rehashing of things they can't change when compared with my partial upbringing in Germany, with childhood friends, just 20 years after our grandparents were destroying each other...
@@neddyseagoon9601Germany is an amazing country in that she has come back from 2 wars. She did, however, have massive financial input from the US post WWII. Germany was never colonised for hundreds of years. She had a powerful stance in Europe and an active country in colonial Europe. Lets be fair, there isn't a comparison between Germany the giant in the centre of Europe and a small country like Ireland. Nice try though 😂
"Intent" is not necessary for "blame." You can be culpable for deaths because you wanted to kill them, or you can be culpable due to negligence.
True. But trevellyan said in his own correspondence that this was an opportunity to control and reduce the beastly Irish so in the case of the great famine it was created by intent.
@@briankelleher2156For him. Others may not have had this view.
@@johnnotrealname8168 unfortunately it was not just trevellyan. Victoria donated a miserable 2000 pounds even though she was ruling half the world at the time and stealing their wealth. Also the British parliament refused a donations of 10,000 pounds from the sultan of Turkey because it would make Victoria look bad. They reduced his donation to 1000 pounds and refused the ships full of food he sent. He did manage to sneak some ships through the blockade though. Like it or not it was a deliberate, intentional genocide of the Irish population and the reduction of the survivors to slave labour to build roads.
@@briankelleher2156 That was a lot and she ran charity drives too...also all her proceeds went to the British government technically. There was no blockade of foreign foods, it was not a genocide and they were payed for the labour.
@@johnnotrealname8168 ah stop. You can’t justify the unjustifiable. 2000 pounds to help almost 8 million people. She stole 42 trillion pounds from India over the course of the empire and you think 2000 was a lot. No there is no excuse. It was a deliberate genocide.
As an Irish men, I say there are lots of things in history that where and still painful. But what I alway wonder, is why no one speaks about what was done to the English people
By there own government! So when using language, what the English down to whomever. It was there government the elite class whom still have the spoils of the empire. 5:09
Indeed, as a Liverpudlian of Irish family no one mentions the treatment done to the working class communities in Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle and other industrial cities by the very rapacious and cruel ruling elite to its own people, it's hard to define what "England did to Ireland" no, what the ruling elite did to the English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh and others, they are the architects of this genocidal policy and not the ordinary working class folk in those cities I mentioned who are made up of mostly Irish.
As a honest Irish man as you are I thank you 4 your comment. I love Irish people and Northern Ireland as well ! Been lucky enough 2 visit and believe me I've sat and enjoyed the craic and never been anywhere that gave as warm a welcome ! The same heel was on my grandparents that were born in Victoria's latter years ! The Irish have 1 thing that's exceptionally likened 2 my heritage in the north east of England! That's got 2 be a god given gift of exceptional humour ! God bless Ireland all of it !
And it was the norman richard strongbow who invaded and conquered ireland in the first place and the french aristocracy with king john that consolidated it. The irish invaded parts of scotland and the scots invaded back. All major irish cites were also established by the vikings.
Eternally victims, now still in the EU dictatorship when Ireland was not allowed to leave... @@WMeadows
The difference is Ireland was a genocidal atrocity. There is no comparison.
Small point th8s guy passed over, the land was owned by the British, and rented to the Irish, they ate potatoes but grew cash crops to pay the horrendous rents the British leach class expected, food was esported from Ireland during the famine under Military escort
Everything Is About’British Government’ ! NOT EnglishPeople ! SaluteIrish English! ScottishAndWales People !! ♥️♥️♥️♥️
SoCalled’BritishEmpire’ Had NothingToDoWith BritishPeople !
ByTheWay! HaveYouEverHeard About ‘English Restaurant! Let Be Honest ! WeAllPeople MustTalkAbout ‘Governments’ !
i am irish arab from north africa 'algeria' my grand grand father came from Ireland
and married arab grand grand mother
long live Ireland
Your ancestors enslaved the Irish.
Was his name Fillup me Craic ?
I am part Irish and believe the british intentionally murdered the Irish through this famine. It was a land grab moment.
AndWhoWasPMofBritish GovernmentAtThatTime(?!) WhatWasHis Background(?!) WholeEuropeWasIn…! SoCalled ‘SpringOfNations1848’ ! And HowManyMillionsOfPeople Died ?! SALUTE TheGreat PeopleOfWholeEUROPE♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️♥️✝️
@rosegarza676 - ‘British Government’ ! But NOT BritishNation !
That means your not Irish and never will be
Tripe.
The Irish, like the Scots, always need someone to hate. If you didn't have the English it would be each other.
the ottoman empire tried the best to supply aid .maybe there represented in "amongst others ". ofcourse their attempts to offer enough to completely stop the starvation were rejected by the queen because it made her meagre offer of 1000 pounds look bad .
that story is a complete lie but it is so widespread that the president of Ireland thanked the Turks for their aid on an official visit. She was very embarrassed to be told it was a complete fabrication by nationalists in the 1880s. It doesn't matter much but the queen actually sponsored two appeals with £2000 of her own money each time and the people of Britain from convicts in prison ships, workers in factories and railways contributed more to famine relief than anyone else. The rail and steamship companies also carried famine relief to Ireland free of charge Google British Relief Association for the Irish famine
@@freebeerfordworkers while the facts you're mentioning may be correct, it's your perception of them that's fucked.
1K 2K doesn't matter. It's not even a rounding error for one of the the richest monarchies in the world. I imagine they through that much out every week in food.
And using convicts as labour in factories, on farms and rail because business doesn't want to pay wages while maintaining their image. Oh look, I'm helping poor people, starving people, whatever, is slavery bud
For a start the British Monarch was not the richest in the world for over 200 years they have been paid a salary by parliament because they got fed up bailing them out when they died bankrupt. When Victoria came to the throne her uncle left it bankrupt and she had to be bailed out by parliament she was the first monarch for generations not to die bankrupt and she didn't invest in slaves or anything else she invested in New York real estate smart lady.
I don't know what you're talking about slaves and convicts I'm saying ordinary working people the poorest working people in Britain sent help to the Irish altogether they sent more than anyone else but no one mentions this because it doesn't fit the narrative
I've checked this guy's other posts and he specializes in "look at these people aren't they horrible" unfortunately too many people tend to believe him. You may not know it but the Great Irish political leader Parnell on tour of America in the 1880s told them they had she had only donated £5 of famine relief adding it was the same amount she gave to a dog's home. You may as well believe that and have done with it@@Hobbsdad
Of course an Irishman would give credit to the Ottomans, they didn't even want to fight the Nazis.
@@darrendin2050 Neither to cooperate with them, when they could so...WHY to bleed for You, we saw here in Greece, Yugoslavia etc how you repaid our "heroics"...
As a Spaniard and Catholic I sympathize with Irish having to endure the English rule and their selfish colonialist mindset. Actually, what did the British Empire leave behind? Trouble: Israel-Palestine, North Ireland, India-Pakistan, Iraq-Kuwait, Afghanistan, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Falklands, Gibraltar, etc. They say it was the biggest empire, but certainly it was only by its extension and to exploit their colonies, because they never developed, integrated and invested on the local populations. They only left one cricket club tradition here and there. Damn! even Australia was used as a prison.
Thank you for saying that but as a Irish amateur historian I haven't come across to any references to Spain sending AID during the famine.
@@Joshpox Actually, until their independence they had even better quality of life than most of Europe. Nigeria has higher standard of living than Argentina? No cherry-picking allowed.
@@lordjazoijua94 Who sent aid?
Guess what, there was trouble there before the British arrived. Why? Because in history trouble was a constant all over the world and had no flag
@@TheJthom9 The great thing about Trouble, is that it is always more - than - willing to meet you half - way!
The reason a lot of Irish had to survive on potatoes was cause the English took the best farm land most catholics land was the worst only potatoes would grow go to the any mountains in Ireland and you can see the outline of the lazy beds going up them over a million tonnes of food were exported out of the country during the famine there was a saying god sent the blight but the English caused the hunger only for the quakers, the death toll would’ve been a lot higher my grandfather heard the stories from his grandfather who lived by the kindness of a Quaker couple 200 years later and irelands population is not what it was before the famine the British compared Irish people to beasts they were delighted with the famine they wanted the land not the catholics just look up the press of the day to see what they taught of us
I see that English is not your main language, but Google Translate it quite good nowadays. Perhaps if you were to use it you might make a coherent argument.
I am Irish English is my language and I don’t have to make an coherent argument 2 million people died there’s the coherent argument I’ll all ways be so proud that we Irish beasts beat there empire at the height of its power we showed the world that they could be beaten put that in your pipe and smoke it
I mean don't just blame the English the Scottish also did the Same I'm tired of the English always getting the blame
It had nothing to do with the quality of farm-land but who owned it, Anglo-Irish, and what they made the Irish do. Quite cruel.
@@johnnotrealname8168 yeah fully two thirds of the earnings made from the land went on rent the rest for everything else must Of been a very hard life especially as most of the land had been taken off the people in the first place
We never hated the English. We hated the empire and government. A lot of English are just like us
To ,THIS VERY DAY IRELAND 🇮🇪 STILL HAS MANY ENGLISH LANDLORDS 😢😮😢😮 ❤
Problem was you’d don’t know how to diet 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That’s just the way it is - you buy them out and you ve the landlord 👍
Potatoes were brought to Ireland by Sir Walter Raleigh from Spain,NOT FROM “The America’s” as the narrator states.
And now the WEF want the Irish replaced with their quisling government...
@@user-jl3km2jg3mThey originated in the Americas. Not the Country, the Americas.
another one you forgot to mention. there seemed to be plenty of food available to the church of Ireland [England ] and they tried to get people to denounce the Catholic religion with the promise to feed them if they did, similar to the situation with schooling and work etc.
The aid from the government and that provided by the voluntary British relief association for the famine in Ireland and was distributed entirely according to need. There was one a Catholic convert who did offer food for conversion and he was widely condemned for it at the time.
Public schooling was just developing at the time and the Catholic Church was a major influence in it's organisation
@@freebeerfordworkers Don't forget them beautiful brutal NUNS HOMES
Thats true! my father was Irish Catholic I grew up hearing stories about what happen during the great hunger,from what I heard the whole family down to a mother and her small son(my great-great great graandfather)went to the soup kitchen and denounced Catholicism so her son wouldn't starve,they left for america after and just started going back to the Catholic church when they were settled in the us
@@jacquelineithell307If you know nothing say nothing! Brutal British Work Houses and not ‘Nuns Homes’ were in operation at the time of the ‘The Great Hunger.’
@@tomaseire And the nuns homes people young girls still looking for their babies, who were adopted out wake up
Margaret Thatcher was the icing on the cake! A modern Cromwell.
Margaret Thatcher on quarter irish from grandfather side
If you look back at the history of any country and you will find they committed horrendous atrocities. Any country!
Oh so we done something bad now we must accept brutal occupation to save ourselves from being called hypocritical
Some countries and people do it much much more often than others
The British Government, not the British people, did this.
I'm Irish and I agree and am sad to see that the ordanry people in the UK today are still been used and abused to this very day by those entitled aristocrats.
So the British government made up “no blacks no dogs no Irish”?
Well said! Your speaking facts!
@@carlmaster9690it's almost always those with immense wealth, power and influence who cause most of our humanitarian disasters.
Yes! My ancestors were down the lead mines!
The roots of Irish poverty and precarious living in the 18th Century were to be found in the Penal Laws directed against the Irish Catholic population after the defeat of Jacobite faction by the Williamites in the late 17th Cent.
Most Catholic Irish gentry fled to France afterthat defeat leaving the peasants behind and unprotected. Land ownership changed to a mostly protestant owners and a systm of land tenure was started where every son of a tenant farmer was entitled to a share of his fathers tenancy. This led to smaller anf smaller holdings over time and to a large increase in population. Ironically potatoes combined with dairy, milk and cheese, were a better diet than most Europeans were getting in those days so that family sizes were big. Family planning as we know it today did not exist in the 19th Century but part of the English attitude towards large families and early marriage was disparaging and condescending.
Disaster fell when a systematically disenfranchised and poorly educated and powerless people lost their only source of food. Several famines had happened in Ireland in the mid 18th century, 1741 as an example and led to the Scots Irish ( Ulster ) emigrations to the US at that time. These settlers became farmers and rural dwellers in places like Kentucky, Tennessee and the Southern US.
1845 was different.
THe mostly Catholic Southern and Western part of Ireland emigrated to Canadian and US cities in their millions and never made it in large numbers to the countryside of these countries. Few were farmers in their new lands. Most were industrial workers, miners and railway builders and had very mixed fortunes in the New World.
Their sons became members of the US army and later on joined the Police and Fire Services in the Eastern US cities. Many entered politics and agitated for Irish home rule in the early 20th Century as their numbers grew and their votes counted in US politics.
Brilliant.
very enlightening , I hope the English get to read this becaose my relatives in England never heard anything like this in school,
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A bit mixed up, I think. the Penal laws began with The Test Act in 1704. Other Acts were added throughout the rest of the 1700s until 1775 or so. They excluded both Catholics and Presbyterians (mostly of Scots origin and found predominately in the North-East of Ireland) from any influence in the government of Ireland. A direct result of that was that thousands of Presbyterians left for America - they were referred to in america as the Scots Irish. I've no idea why the Catholic Irish didn't do the same at that point, maybe someone will tell us.
The famine of 1741 was the most deadly in Irish history but is largely forgotten nowadays.
@@russellbrown3800lots of Presbyterians moved to America (southern states) after 1798 because they were involved in the rebellion ,
In a nutshell this was the final blow of the sustained attack on Irish Catholics which began with Cromwell destroying a large part of the harvest which caused the deaths of between a quarter and a third of the Irish population through starvation. From the penal times the few Irish Catholics who were permitted to own land had to subdivide it among the sons of the deceased, resulting in an ever decreasing amount of ground to grow crops over the generations. Protestants were not subject to this cruel law. It was genocide by stealth.
Tell them why Cromwell went over there, not half the story.
@@mikemines2931 The comment had to be brief and to the point. The whole story would infringe on the readers attention span.
Yes right, you are Gary Lineker and I claim my £5... @@sklenars
So why did Cromwell have to go over and fight with Irish rebels? Why was it necessary to impose the penal laws?
@@gary637 For a start Ireland did not "belong" to England. In an attempt to control the land there the business of plantation was started. That is the plantation of people not crops. This plantation of people from England and Scotland did not go down well with the locals, mainly in Ulster and Munster who had their land confiscated and handed over to the new arrivals. This resulted in bloody conflict with the planters coming off second best. To avenge this, Cromwell and his army arrived in Ireland to crush this "rebellion" which resulted in the aforementioned atrocities.
This British perspective on the Great Hunger is laughable.
Obviously Ireland will have a different version. We're not taught about the Irish famine in Great Britain. I only know about this because my grandad is Irish
I have many good English friends,they have spent many great holidays with me in Ireland and love our small country, when they learned of the horrid history of conquest ,division and brutality, waged apon the native Irish over hundreds of years ,each and every one of them were genuinely horrified, and what's more were never thought about our shared history in schools, shame on the educational system and political people in Britain, thanks God our population is at last starting to recover and we will eventually be able to take our place among the great nations of the world, Our Ireland .
I thought Ireland was currently being taken over by migrants of other nations.
As the Head of both the infamous British Empire and the British Government, Queen Victoria, who is known as the "Famine Queen" in Ireland must share much of the blame for the Irish Famine. She allowed one million of her then subjects to starve to death, while another million emigrated before they too would also have perished. I say shame on her. Liam Burke
Victoria smuggled food into ireland
This was not a monarchy it was a government the tory predecessors
The @#£%? Are you just ignorant of British constitutionalism? Why not blame the Liberal government instead of the Queen who actually tried helping?
There were more than 2000 kinds of potatoes in Peru, and only 5 kinds widely available for the Irish-- talk of the blight in England preceded the actual blight by fully a decade-- and they weren't allowed to have fish from their lakes or rivers.
How did the Irish survive before the potato were brought from the Americas?
Deliveroo
The "famine" was actually artificial. English were exporting food from Ireland the entire time.
Grains, cereals, meat, fish and seafood, dairy products, vegetables, wild plants, ale and mead. Ireland was inhabited by the early farmers that came from the Fertile Crescent. So there has been farming on the island for thousands of years prior to the potato.
@@w13rdguy Even potato's?
@@jonb77😂 🤣
YES they are to blame the British Government 😡😡😡
God bless the Irish 💚 Salute from Mexico, my Catholic brothers and sisters ✊🏾
What’s your thoughts on the immigration
Free Mexico from the Spanish.
Yup and make sure you get the pronouns right
The British government's inadequate response and failure to provide sufficient relief, lead to the deaths and emigration of hundreds of thousands of Irish people. Their colonial policies were simply to take (export) and tax
Every empire did the same
Relief? We had all the grain we needed they took it at bayonet point because they wanted us dead
That's how it goes. Ireland, Nigeria, India. Different places with different people & different histories but all screwed over by the British
Relief? There was no such thing as Live Aid back then. Nobody was going to be given handouts. Famines happened all over Europe with millions dying. In Scandanavia; those who stole food during their famine would have their hand cut off as punishment.
@@gary637Yeah except that is not true. We have examples of what Belgium did for example and it was handled well. The British decided to do nothing. The British government actually did relief measures in the late 18th Century so this argument is bunk.
What about all the food that was shipped to england out of Ireland
You didn't watch the video did you? Exports didn't have an impact. Imports rose during the famine.
@@gary637according to one person’s analysis
@@gary637There was enough food to feed Ireland two or three times over sent to Britain. Good food , eggs cheese , butter , cattle for beef. What was imported was lousy cheap low nutrition food. The toofs in Westminster did not give a dam about the population of Ireland.
@@briancarton1804 More calories were imported into Ireland than exported. Food wasn't free, nor was rent. The economy was still expected to operate, hence the exports.
@@gary637 Exports of food from large estates with British absentee owners whose ancestors stole the land in the first place.
These genocidal landlords also rented patches of land to the decendents of those whose land they stole and took large rents for hovels. This was a form of slavery enforced by British troops.
As for your assertion that more calories were imported is bullshit.
Let Ireland *NEVER* forget the hand of the English. I wish for Ireland to become incredibly wealthy and never again endure such poverty and famine
Are you alright 😂
They will never forget the English because most of them live there.
Nobody hates like an Irishman. It is a religion with them.
Clover hat
You mean sea raider Gaels (scotis) ??
Ahh they trashed burned and wiped out the Picts - but we will just hide that part - ok unicorn Irish?
Oh dear - right out of the gate this guy screws up . At 0.49 as he talks about Irish nationalism he shows an Orange Order march in the background! The image in 0.53 is not Dublin, this is Cork. Didn't brother watching the rest. It always fascinates me that people who post vids like this don't run it by someone who knows what they're talking about first before posting.
As the Irish know, a government doesn’t represent its people 90% of the time. I’m Engkish and have zero hate for all the Irish. The Scots and Welsh too. We will need each other soon.
As an Irish person, we don't want anything to do with Britain and I don't really care about scot English or Welsh distinction it's all the same to me
DITTO 😮😢😮😢 ❤
@@quandaledingle7812
"British out, Arabs in" - Irish 2023
👏 no more brother wars we have a bigger enemy now.
Speak for yourself .
as an irish person I never clicked on a video so fast
@@jay_kay709 😐
"hello fellow Irish!"
@@puca__
“No 32” 😢 😂🇬🇧
@@johnhenry4844 🤓
Does it tap into that warm, mawkish sense of victim-hood?
Up until recently, modern English people knew nothing about this history, Irish history has never been taught in English schools. Irish people understand this and do not hate the English. Like a lot of Irish people, I have wonderful English friends, who are also shocked when they learn of this atrocity. We do not hate the English but still retain mistrust of the British Establishment.
As an english man from london i was never taught any of this in school or even heard of it until a few years ago when one of my irish friends sean told me and i was shocked😱
I'm English with Irish ancestry (Mothers side) just like a lot of English. People just have to remember one thing, It was the British government of the time that did this to Ireland, not the British people or peasants. Looking at some of the comments I feel like I'm being blamed for what went on in Ireland. The Indians make you feel guilty too. The British government was never on our side, it’s not now and never will be, they're evil and always have been.
dont let them make u feel guilty, all nations who ever had enough power did horrible things to their natives, the irish for example invaded and colonised what we now call scotland, snuffing out the pictish language and replacing it with irish (gaelic)
@@jonathanjonathan7386the Scot’s are a proud Anglo Saxon people
@@jimmyskyblue6057not true at all
No reasonable Irish person blames the ordanry English people for the famine we blame the aristocrats you had and still have for a government. They alway treated the poor of the United kingdom like dirt even though they treated the Irish worse because we were catholic. But the famine is over now and Ireland has left the UK but your government still treat you're poor as an underclass, Maggie Thatcher distroied Britain when she was PM espically northern England and Scotland and yet you keep voting the Tories in in the majority of your elections.
@@jonathanjonathan7386back when some Irish tribes settled in Scotland there were no countries as we see them today no Irish government took over the running of Scotland or any other part of Britain, because both countries were a mix of different kingdoms governed by tribal laws as aposed to a centralised government. Tribes in both Ireland and Britain were always fighting each other within both Britain and Ireland and some tribes got wiped out or enslaved. The tuha de dannon in Ireland for example when the celts came here. But there was no central government with policies of colonisation and deliberate subjugation of indigenous populations that most countries in Europe enacted when government became established to form the countries we know today. Britain was one such power probably no worse than any other but no better and who knows Ireland would probably have become a colonizing country if we got the chance. Scotland tried and went bankrupt England bailed them out and eventually took over the running of the country by consent of the Scottish parliament. Your comment is lazy at best senical at worst.
Here's why England was hated ... They Still Are!
A reasonable attempt to explain it but it misses some key points. The landlord system was a British system which originated back in Cromwellian times when Irish land was confiscated and people became tenants to these new landlords...many of them absentee landlords in the UK. A previous anti Catholic law preventing catholics from leaving the land to their eldest son but having to divide it equally had made plots so small tenants used the potato as it was the only efficient and effective way to feed your family. Also whatever other animals or nets or fishing vessels they had they sold in the first year or two assuming things would improve but of course they didn't and disaster struck. England wasn't involved in genocide but it was ignorant and inefficient and ultimately culpable for the Irish desire to run its own affairs.
As an English person I'm ashamed of what we did!!!!
It’s not the people’s fault.
Don't be, you didn't do anything. Your ancestors probably weren't even in the UK when this happened
It was the government/king the didn't care about your people either and didn't give 2 thoughts about the Irish ... The blight was seen as opportunity to kill off the Irish after hundred of years of oppression
They also tried to stamp out the Welsh language ,but is strong today in Wales as it ever was
That's very interesting. Do you by any chance have any evidence to support your allegation?
strange that every child learns their mother tongue from their parents. did the british have listening devices in every household to make sure that no one was speaking Welsh at home? seems a little like another nationalist lie with little actual evidence
You should stop speaking English in protest.
The Welsh language is not strong at all and is a pointless language anyway - no speaks it or wants to
It happened long before the 1840's. That was the culmination of repeated genocidal actions against the Irish
That's very interesting. do you by any chance have any evidence to support your allegation?
@@thostaylor Read any Irish History book. Not UK ones. You have access to google. It won't be hard to find.
@@MobiusMundUr Thank you, I have read quite a number of Irish history books written by reputed Irish historians. I do admit that I have avoided sensationalised books by non-historians, of which there are a large number.
Sanctioned by the Catholic Church beginning in the 1200's
@@thostaylorsimple look it up food exports from ireland increased during the famine. The reason the potato was popular was a large amount could be grown on a small amount of land the reason they had such little land was massive landlords grew barley, wheat and raised livestock on the best land
Yes we suffered greatly under British rule over the centuries. But we are neighbours and though we haven't forgotten our history we have moved on and do not hate the British. We wish them well
Thank you and I wish you well too!
These attrocities done by he british against the Irish is beyond human understanding.
That includes the level of cruelty and the length of time of the agression.
Nothing like that was ever seen before or after.
700 years...forbidden to talk the Irish language...no any other regime was so cruel or lasted that long.
No apologies.Nothing.
They should allow Ireland to unite again as minimum.
Definitely yes. That outcome was a culmination of the Corn Laws and direct rule from London in addition to the reasons explained in the presentation
What angers Irish people and myself is the constant use of the term "The Irish Famine" there was no famine. There was plenty of food in Ireland it was just unavailable to the Native Irish. Due to the cost and the fact nearly all the wealthy landowners (British Aristocracy) refused to help the Irish. Therefore it is now called "An Gorta Mor", The big Hunger.
However we must also acknowledge that along with the Native Americans, where I'm from received a donation from female mill workers in Yorkshire. God knows how many lives they saved. One can only imagine the circumstances these women lived in.. Yet they gave!!!, what I'm sure they badly needed themselvesto help us!
Life isn’t fare
The natives had slaves with them on the trail of tears no one ever mentions that it’s history that should be remembered
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The Irish at one time were shot by the English if they spoke Irish and not English.
Because they sounded like swear words
@@EpicAelflaed. As if English is such a beautiful language. Please.
Wow you got a treasure in your hands, you can seriously make a video called "Here's why England was Hated by...." and do it for every single nation in the world.
Racist
@@gedscouserableThats a weird way to use the word racist. Anyway, if you want england not to be hated, then it shouldnt have colonized so much of the world. No one wanted the will of unwashed arrogant tea drinkers imposed on them
@gedscouserable "Englishman" is not a race. And you guys are responsible for millions of dead, maimed and mistreated all over your former colonies.
Interesting, given that I see other videos where you have commented saying "colonisation was the right choice".
¿Eres español, hijo mío?
@@darrendin2050 Comment stalking?? anyway, in a lot of cases it was. It was land that was not utilized and the west needed to expand. Example: Colonising the americas was a good choice, totally abusing both the colonists and the natives was not a good choice.
"OTHER VIDEOS" you mean the one video i commented about the sacrifices the native american barbarians performed? Yeah i stand by it, what of it?
Just as i stand with bombing palestine back to the stone age, what of it?
I'm English with Irish Parents. Ireland wasnt a 1 crop economy, but it was as far as the poor irish were concerned. Population of Ireland went from c9m to 3m during the 19th century. Englands meddling --It's much deeper than the 19th century. Cromwell burnt out Irish towns after he got them to surrender on the basis they would be spared. Trevelyan wasnt about public works, he was about working starving people to death doing pointless labour. In our catholic school in Manchester we got a pretty pro-irish view of what happened by comparison to the other schools. Even so, it was a watered down version of the persecution suffered.
Your quotes re Donnelly Jnr etc are duplicitious, 30-40 years ago it was taught as fact the famine was purely Irelands fault for relying on the 1 crop, If Ireland had been in control of it's own country there is no way it would have suffered as badly as it did. The flippant " the exporters were exercising their right to sell to the highest bidder while millions starve an hours drive away" reasoning is despicable. If 1 million english people at the same time were dying of starvation in England you can bet that Parliament would have took measures to stop it. Laissez Faire policies or not. Was amazed by your flippant justifications for starving people to death, based on some abstraction that the british government & bigots like Trevelyan & used or didnt as it suited them. You dont create the biggest empire on the planet by abiding by "Laissez Faire" policies now do you?
You have Irish parents so don't claim to be English
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@@giggachad1000 Thats so dumb. And also way more than one million people were constantly starving in britain and the usa were yet to abolish slavery for 20 more years. Non of you paddies have ever read oliver twist before apparently. Whatever pro ira boy lover school this guy went to clearly didnt teach him much. The scottish highland clearances probably cause a million emigres aswell. The english civil war with cromwell was the deadliest war england has ever fought. The only reason ireland got so populated is becuase britain needed soldiers to conquer half the world. If ireland hadnt been part of the uk it would have grown at all as all of the population would have just moved to england like this guys ungrateful parents.
@@giggachad1000Why not?
@@giggachad1000 Today, the Irish and English are virtually the same people with a different accent and passport.
Interesting and informative !!
In the cold light of day now, it is so easy to look back and see how the situation could have been handled better.
Is anyone thinking that looking back on history to reinforce prejudice somewhat defeats the objective . We shouldn’t hide history but we must always remember that’s what it is …history , let’s move on and address the issues that we all face in the 21st century .
Knowing history properly -and a LOT has been pretty much unknown until fairly recently-is the way to understand the present and, hopefully, stop the pattern repeating. Guilt trips are unnecessary (but lucrative for some).
@@gerardtimings5625and whinge about it forever
You must be British - it's all history. FU
Utter disregard for civilian lives and putting importance so many time and over and over on the market shows that Trevelyan was the greediest of all humans in history
As a Sikh, what do you think of Hindus?
@@jonb77 I am not sikh I am a hindu and well Rajputs often have singh title
@@jonb77All Singhs are not Sikh lol. Singh was originally a Rajput surname. When Sikh Guru Gobind Singh wanted to create casteless names for his Sikhs he selected Singh for males and Kaur for females so that his Sikhs discard their castes and clans. Sadly that failed, most Sikhs have clan surnames nowadays..
What do you think of indians colonization and ruining of england? Karma?
He even has _the face_ of a snide article! And amongst his other crimes, lets hope the Devil is coming up with some creative tortures for him, for sicc~ing that Godawful song ("The Fields of Athenry") on us!
Damn! Brits done a lot of atrocities still look clean.
What always stands out was the number of priests who starved to death during the Irish Famine:
0
That's true.
Instead they died of disease: cholera, typhus etc. There were seven Catholic priests died in County Waterford in one year alone from disease they contracted administering to the poor. And it wasn't just Catholic priests, Church of Ireland ministers who did their best for their Catholic neighbours died of disease also.
Yeah my poor old Grandad living in the slums of Birmingham working for slave labour wages is responsible for all the Worlds ills which now I must walk around wearing a badge of shame for.
Don't be an idiot. Responsibility lies with your ruling class, whose descendants are shafting you today.
Starvation is terifying
Ironically, going much further back, the Irish were largely responsible for the eventual establishment of the country called England.
After the Romans left Britain, the Irish sailed across the Irish to attack, plunder and take the Romano/British into slavery. St. Patrick was one such. The attacks were so frequent the British petitioned two Saxon brothers, Hengist and Horsa, to help protect them, which they did, with the Saxons defeating the Irish pirates. Thus began the Anglo-Saxon invasion with the rest being history.
Very few like to go that far back, when the Irish raided Britain for slaves and created small kingdoms, or mention the to most famous Irish, Patrick and Bridget were both slaves caught in Britain.
Then a few years later the Normans invaded and an Irish King invited some Norman knights over to help as mercenaries to help with a neighbouring kingdom. They decided to stay.
I feel kind of strange having my father’s side of the family as English, and my mom’s side as Irish. I loved my dad and he was awesome, but I like to identify more with the Irish part of me. I have my grandma McNamara’s Irish wit for sure.
You can be proud of both. The Irish Constitution defines the Irish Nation and acknowledges those of Irish extraction like you as being part of that broader Irish nation. Having a multi-layered identity is perfectly acceptable as an Irishman, so if you chose to claim the Irish part of your heritage you don't have to give your English part. With a name like McNamara, I'm guessing your grandma came from County Clare.
Bit like Joe Biden then.
Over one half of the entire British army were in ireland in the 1840's, 67 regiments, at gunpoint they took all the food you call 'exports'. Thats a fact. One you fail to inform viewers of.
Yes 100% These English regiments in Ireland were only deployed to prevent the Irish from eating their own food.
better title to this video 'why England is still hated by the Irish people'
because they are bigoted twats who love to hold onto grudges from hundreds of years ago?
The Irish are in a long queue of those that fell foul of the English - here in South Africa we remind our rugby players about the British concentration camps where the women and children were imprisoned and raped, starved and abused.
This weekend (SATURDAY, 21 OCTOBER 2023) we will remind them again and "rekindle the hatred" !
@@JOATMOFA im sure the blacks in SA have similar thoughts about you guys in relation to the evils of apartheid
@@jonathanjonathan7386
Ironically enough, it was the *English* that started apartheid ...
@@JOATMOFA and the Boers who perfected and formalised and brutally enforced it and clung onto it into the modern world.
Evictions and conversion of potato crops to cattle pasture. The restrictions on fishing must have been no good too.
the population of ireland was 8 million in 1840... including both Eire & Ulster it is about 5 million now
That's because birth control/family planning clinics has come to Ireland
The population of the island of Ireland is 7.1 million with 5.2 million living in Ireland and 2 million living in Northern Ireland.
@@michaelogrady1002according to acidimic calculations the population would be around 20million today only for the famine, effective conterception didn't come into bean until the 1960's so that's not really a factor.
@@beccaboo3040oh and the Ukrainians 😂.
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Don't you know the kings English? SMH.
What are you talking about?? How are they suffering, simple affable people you patronising racist! Imagine saying o"oh Africans such simple silly people" your a RACIST!!
@@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769 don’t worry he’s a simp to the Irish
On a side note, nobody fled to 'Northern Ireland' during an Gorta Mor.
There was no such thing until 1922.
They did flee to Belfast and Dublin which made them poorer and spread disease. Not as bad as the West though.
@johnnotrealname8168 yes people migrated from rural areas to urban ones, I didn't dispute that, I said nobody migrated to Northern Ireland, it didn't exist as a state at the time.
Not sure of the purpose of your comment
@@belfastbhoy5679 I was just writing to mollify both statements. What is today Northern-Ireland.
@@johnnotrealname8168 that's not at all what you said. If you had, there wouldn't be confusion. Extremely strange and pointless intervention that you don't even seem to know what the purpose of it was
Landlords eh?
Seems like we have the same problems 185 years later
Britain exported food from Ireland to Britain of approximately 20 million tonnes of food per year every year from 1830s to 1880s.
you never mentioned the "corn" laws
Rest in peace for the Irish who killed during the genocide 🙏
Wasnt a genocide. Why the hell would we let irish move to england and scotland if we intended to genocide them?
Hallo, Do you mind if we share more
I came here for this we need to stop 🛑 calling it famine.
And it’s happening today my poor country.
@@grlfcgombeenhunter2897what 😂 if it’s happening today it’s your fault !
@@jayrozay3142 wtf are u shiting about now.
No Irish ppl didn’t like potatoes so much that we only ate potatoes. Potatoes was the only food Irish were allowed grow and eat. The potatoes was more substantial and easy to grow - we didn’t grow potatoes because we didn’t consider a blight happening. No one thought a blight would happen but it did and because the Irish Catholics weren’t allowed grow anything else we suffered greatly.
Britian exported our other vegetables and food to Britain because they too were dealing with the blight too.
Laizzes-fairre is to blame for the famine. Unrestricted food exports, evictions by landlords and the slowness of any government intervention is what lead to the high death toll of the famine.
The people grew other crops, except these werr systematically removed from the country by the Whig's. Also there was fish in the sea and rivers, game and animals. All controlled by Grandees in England. Punishment for trying to stay alive in a famine was slavery via deportation. This cruelty is in our DNA. The same slave master's are still on the throne.
As an Irish person, I and many others do not blame the ordinary english people, we blame the British Government and Monarchy
Conas a bhíonn a fhios agat nuair a bhíonn Sasanach ina luí? Nuair a bhíonn a liopaí ag gluaiseacht.
@@brackloon4584 🤣 gowan ye mad fella
@@brackloon4584 Racist
So you blame the british government today for something that happened 200 years ago. So the german government today was responsible for ww2. Get a grip. THe irish have been much more evil than the british in the past 100 years and the modern british have much more of a right to hate the irish than the other way around.
@@freneticness6927 Lies, english man.
The penal laws enacted in such a way that the irish peasants were forced to survive on smaller and smaller land holdings. This meant that the potato was the only crop that could sustain a family
According to Ancestry, my name, Johnson came over from Ireland, during the potato famine. Using DNA and guess what my great great grandfather was called, Bill Johnson. My father always insisted the first Johnson in England was from Ireland. The reason I'm sure of this, is because I had a great aunt, daughter of this Bill Johnson, who went over to Illinois with her groom after getting married and thanks to that I have a stack of distant cousins in the US. Spotted through my Genes.
And what?
@@belfastbhoy5679 he final nail in the coffin for the Gaels, would be the Schengen agreement, open borders. Most modern English people will shout shame at the way our ancestors treat them and would prefer to preserve the ancient Gaelic customs in our days. My Surname Johnson, came directly from Ireland in 1849, which suggests potato famine. That many refugees come from Ireland, they altered English accents, like the Liverpool and Cheshire accents.
@WilliamJohnwon1522 nobody cares mate, genuinely, you're English, not irish.
And proud of it.
@WilliamJohnwon1522 I wouldn't be, but each to their own. Cheers for the irrelevant monologue about your family though.
It’s not was hates, it’s *is* hated
As an American, I'm always so amazed at how much of today's world's native food come from America. I'm so glad I didn't grow up back in those days... it made tough men, yes... but at the cost of losing loved ones.
Actually i guess it depends on what you eat but id say the majority actually originally came from the middle east and Asia.
Yeah I'm sure that the indigenous Indian peoples appreciate that too...........
It’s a food cannot be native if it came from somewhere else. It can become “traditional” to the people, but it isn’t native to them. There’s a difference.
With respect, I wouldn’t touch American food with a barge pole.
@@didibelliniI don't blame you. The food there is incredibly processed.
the food export figures did not take into account livestock and alcohol like Guinness and whiskey which was derived from grain
Politicians start conflicts. Which in turn is fought by young men who don't know or hate each other.
You'll never run out of content covering all the atrocities the British Empire has been involved in! 😂
And you’ll never runout of people ignoring any nuance or narrative that doesn’t fit their lazy moral posturing either
@@joygibbons5482 There is nothing very nuanced about the colonisation of the world and the destruction of countless indigenous peoples and their cultures.
@@rickybobby420.Indian here, we just crossed British GDP, and became first to land on the South pole of moon when they don't even have a space agency 😂 Based on all economic projections, our economy is at the start of an explosive growth while 'great' Britain is starting to stagnate economically and pay for its sins against humanity. I am so thankful to be born in this era.
@@sloppyjoe5263 I'm Irish we are not doing as good unfortunately but that's because of the European Union our new masters that we have ruling over us. I'm glad for India may the poorest of the people profit from your countries success and not just the ruling classes.
@@rickybobby420. I thought Ireland is now a rich country, sorry to hear about the tough times. Best wishes, may your country and the citizens come out of the problems and be happy. Love from India.
A lot of English people suffered because of their own government.English Catholics had their land taken off them.the extent of hatred of the English crown among the English themselves e.g. Guy Fawkes is hardly known.Theres a Thomas Hardy story about smugglers in Wessex who hated their own government
God bless the Roman Catholic faith.
Guy Fawkes was a Roman Catholic fanatic who wanted to kill all non-Catholics.
"Okay, I want to talk about Ireland
Specifically I want to talk about the famine
About the fact that there never really was one
There was no famine
See Irish people were only allowed to eat potatoes
All of the other food
Meat, fish, vegetables
Were shipped out of the country under armed guard
To England while the Irish people starve" - Sinéad O'Connor
we still had corn .that went to feed the english armys in their empire building..