Larkin doesn't deserve to be called out, it's just the nature of being captain. Todd said it best -"It looks like Larkin carrys a lot of that weight on his shoulders, I've got to find some other guys who are willing to put that on themselves and it starts with me. You can ask me those questions". Larkin has never put that burden on anybody else or had anybody else offer to take some of that pressure of him until now.
Larkin takes every media availability after a loss and rarely takes them after a win. I can imagine that's a pretty draining approach given how often the team has been losing lately. I think it shows some character that he wants to shield folks from it and take responsibility, but it also shows that the team is lacking in leaders who can share that burden with him.
As a kid I grew up watching the Dead Things era as a kid. It was horrible. a lot of people just do not understand the franchise was in shambles. They even had to try giving away cars to get fans in the building.
The ones who don't remember the dead-wings of 70s &80s are the ones who are making the worst comments on here. I'm shocked, to be honest. Thanks for helping bring some sanity back.
They've been unlucky more than a few times with free agent signings to warrant their pro scouting being put to question. Also kinda confusing to me that they said after last season they needed to improve defensively and that's the style they want for the team long term then they sign Kane, Tarasenko, Gustafsson, and other guys not known for their defensive game. I get they were trying to recover the scoring from players they let go, but in doing so they built a team that doesn't match the identity they want to have at all then wonder why guys who play an offensive style game that you're also making play on their offside are struggling to adjust. And to make matters worse these guys who don't play a defensive game are not scoring, so they have a team that basically sucks at everything except the powerplay and miraculously goaltending. It remains to be seen on some of his draft picks, but so far his picks are looking promising. Especially considering this team couldn't even get a number 1 pick when they had one of the worst seasons ever.
Not every move is going to be a hit. He has done a lot more good than bad. Far too many people have unrealistic expectations and thought as soon as Yzerman was hired then all of a sudden he was going to magically turn the wings around overnight. Every single season under Yzerman, the team has slowly moved up the standings. This is the first season that they have regressed and Yzerman addressed it. People need to calm down. He will get it sorted out.
@@ValhallaRaven Honestly if people look at it realistically he did turn things around. Went from 0 prospect pool to one of the best. My biggest gripe recently is that they need to run an offensive style with the team they currently have. They are not built for a defensive system. They are long term, but most of the guys a part of the long term defensive plan aren't there yet. If they wanted success now they needed to pick guys to sign that were a better fit or accept they can't run that system right now.
I don't care there is no one I trust more the Yzerman and I'll die on that hill. I went through all of this in the 1980's and 90's. Championship teams aren't built over night.
If we indeed do end up being playoff contenders in the next year or two, Larkin’s career timeline will not be that different from Yzerman’s. Took Yzerman what, 12 years to get the team a cup?
Yeah, fans here locally are getting very Impatient with the Yzerplan. Steve has done a great job in the draft and identifying talent, free agency, and trades have been absolutely underwhelming
Team Wings is undersized especially on the offense side, as a group they also lack speed, toughness isn't remotely visible with a few exceptions, this is illustrated when opposing teams stand around our goalies during and after scoring chances. Many players won't engage in checking let alone finish a check. 82 games played against men who out weigh you by 20 - 35 lbs. and by size can shield the puck will win 90% of the battles reason Wings are last in the league with 5-on-5 play. The fix is complicated, how long should a rebuild take, only the owners can determine that answer.
People think a GM takes over and everything changes overnight. Not a single Gm in the world could have taken that red wings team over and had them as a cup contender now. That team was baaaad. Nobody has patience anymore. Did everything think McClellan would take over with one morning skate under his belt and suddenly change the entire identity of this team? So many mindless fans that think it’s easy to build a championship team with no clue what they’re talking about
Compare our rebuild to montreals and we have been completely outclassed. Their entire team is filled with young players unlike ours. They are faster and better than us.
in what way exactly? Considering the habs made the cup final in 2021 I guess you’d have to say their rebuild started the next season. They already had several of their big pieces in the system or on the active roster, like caufield and Suzuki. Since 2019 both teams have drafted really well, with Montreal having a 1st overall and two 5th overalls, meanwhile Detroits highest pick is a 4th. Both teams have improved in points every season to this point with both being somewhat disappointing this year compared to their expectations. Both teams have fired a coach mid season. And despite the canadiens being younger now, it sure hasn’t seemed to matter in standings being only 3 points apart from each other. Both teams are set up to be very good for a long time, but Montreal had much less work to do. Detroit is being rebuilt from the ground up
Yeah, I'm disappointed in the way fans expect turnovers right away. Doesn't anyone remember we were the dead-wings for about 20yrs, even AFTER Yzerman joined the team, before we got the playoff run we did? Most of these people seem to be wagon fans.
I like Larkin but he needs to be better in offensive zone period. He makes way to many blind passes resulting in giveaway’s every game! This has to change in his game. Yzerman needs to get better at signing better free agents just do it. Larkin needs to make better decisions with the puck sometimes he looks like he’s trying to do a lot by himself. The other players need to play way better especially the defensive corps
Seider is a legit superstar. Raymond and Edvinsonn may be. Hopefully there's another buried in the hyped prospects too (ASP lately). Hard to get that elite talent hit when you're screwed in every draft position (no team has fallen more in the stupid lottery system).
@@ryankather5673 Raymond is already a stud and has a respectable cap hit. ASP is showing that he's the next powerplay QB along with steady 2nd pairing D-man. Wallinder, Buium and Tuomisto are showing they can round out the rest of the D-Core as soon as next year. Lombardi and Soderblom should slot into the Bottom 6 next year. Of course this all depends on how things go in GR, which have been good so far.
As frustrating this season has been. I think the coaching change will be a big boost. Hopefully it will rejuvenate Larkins passion. I know we had a taste of playoff hope last year until torts threw the gane (call me old school pulling the goalie while tied with 3 minute's left is dumb 90 seconds is better) has us fans wanting and expecting more. We could get on a heater and make a run. Lets see how this plays out
The Wings are a mess. Good period at the end on Friday, but played against lines 2, 3, 4 of Leafs at that time. Every single member of the organization should be in the hot seat. Bar none!
uhhh.. except we have gotten better every year since and have the deepest prospect pool we've had in many years.. wth are you even talking about... we are 32 games into the season
I don’t understand why the importance of a checking line..or even just a checking/energy player is never brought up. The Wings play scared a lot of the time because there is nobody on the team to stick up for anyone if players on the opposing teams are taking liberties. Mo does a great job of providing hits and energy but he shouldn’t have to be the main player doing that. Even if the Wings made it to the playoffs with their current roster..they would be obliterated in the first round when the other teams really start playing physical! I’m tired of seeing them bullied and pushed around and taken advantage of. And it seems like nobody is even thinking about this.🤦🏻♂️
This has been a problem since 09 up till now, look if the standard is the Florida Panthers, & before them the Tampa Bay Lightning then when it comes to being physically up to other teams bulling then the Wings have some more drafting and mind conditioning to do. Hiring Todd is a step in the right direction if I can recall his SJ teams always were gritty and physical in fact the main reason the Wings didn’t win more cups in the 2000‘s was because they didn’t have an official enforcer to keep teams from bullying our star forwards and defense man . I always thought it was because Babs wanted the team to be a team that simply used its skating and passing ability to out shine their more thuggish or rugged opposition ie Nashville, Calgary, Anaheim , San Jose, Colorado…. West Coast , East coast Boston, NJ, Philly,Tampa, Florida, … Bashill & Lalonde I since continued that legacy of turn the other cheek hockey well I say it’s about time this team rediscover it’s physical roots with likes of Probert, Kocur, Shannahan ,Konstantinov,Verbeck, ….
This team is LUCKY to have Larkin. He was one of the only reasons to watch this team a couple of years ago. And even now Larkin could have easily went to play for a contender, but he chose to stay with this team that has yet to see success in the prime years of his career because he believes in his team and what Yzerman is building. And then people want to question his leadership as a captain.
You obviously didn't watch the press conference as usual Lego so let's inform the lazy. This wasn't a snap. He was simply being realistic and trying to show a little humor because the team is going through hard times. Geez. Can anyone read the room anymore?
Im a Bolt fan.. what Coop does is bench the leaders when things are going badly. The capt down thru the leaders are all held accountable.. regardless of who deserves what. Yzerman has the same mentality (as the GM), and if I were a Wings guy.. I'd be extremely hopeful for the next few years.
It took Tampa a decade to win it's cup after Yzerman took over. A lot of what yzerman put together during his time in Tampa were instrumental in their back to back wins.
All this shows is that the new generation of fan has no patience or knowledge of what it takes to win. Show me a better Gm than Yzerman. People want miracles instead of dealing in actual fact. The organization is better than it was when he started. Period. Larkin was the best player he had to start with. Seider Raymond Casper and Edvinsson are budding stars. We have players coming in the system. Without a generational talent being available then you need to get extremely lucky. He is building for sustained success not just a quick playoff run for nothing. Needs a little help from the hockey GODS.
I agree. I want a long sustaining chance to win cup (like we had for yrs) than to maybe make 1st round to get beat, then suck, then make 1st round. That's no way to live.
Nobody seems to care that until just a year or two ago we still had Nielson, Abdelkader and (I believe) Ericsson still on the salary cap, or that the best prospects he had to work with were Veleno and Zadina, or that he didn't get an iota of a choice in hiring Blashill. It doesn't matter that the future heart of the team is plowing their way through the AHL regular season and is poised to make a serious run in the playoffs. Everybody wants this to be like football or basketball where two or three key signings or a virtually infinite pool of talent can turn you into a dominating force and doesn't care that the kind of skills hockey players need take time to blossom. This city is becoming a 'what have you done for me lately?' city and it's disappointing to say the least.
I like Yzerman’s drafting; but his FA signings are straight up awful. There are like 3-4 contracts on the wings that are just straight up untradable. No one is taking Holl, Petry, Chiarot or Copp, meanwhile giving away Walman for free (was to me) the straw that broke the camels back. Walman is a solid top 4 defender (maybe on a really deep team an incredible top 6 D option), giving him away for nothing while keeping plugs like Holl and Chiarot is just ridiculous. Larkin deserves a little bit of heat; but Yzerman needs to do a better job at surrounding his stars with actual defenders and depth forwards rather than signing guys like Holl and Chiarot who were made fun of by their former team’s fans for being sooo bad. As a Toronto resident; the Holl contract still amazes me; I wonder what kinda threats Holl’s agent had to tell Stevie Y to get him to offer that much…
I'm just hoping that out of all this mess the big sweeping changes Wings fans have been waiting for while begin. What those will be remains to be seen, but I believe they will happen.
I think fans/people/media forget what it took to get Seider and Raymond signed to long-term deals. Losing Jake Wallman and Shane Gostisbwhere, a very large loss in offensive production. Now I’ve got to make the best of it what they have until they can move some pieces.
It generally takes 3-5 years for drafted players to arrive in the NHL unless they are very high end talent. Then another couple seasons to become bona fide established players. Top end rookies generally score about 60 points in their first season. Sure there are exceptions but only few operate outside of this. If a team gets 2-3 nhl players in a draft it is considered good. With this understood, the pace to rebuild a roster with 10-12 drafted players could certainly take 8-11 years. None of us likes this timeline but without draft lottery luck, this is the reality. Perhaps it is time to reconsider the concept of building through the draft.
In all fairness Detroit's first rounders with SY look the part, they are very capable. It is their draft selections after the 1st round that have caused a lot of headache. Instead of their own later round prospects filling in the holes, Yzerman has to spend on the fringe type UFA players plugging holes....... for bad and worse. The triple C of Copp/Compher/Chariot has not put this roster into high gear either
Things were going so well last year and then all of a sudden this disaster maybe I should focus on the Lions season and then watch the Red Wings season only then when the Lions season ends and pray to the people up above that the Lions season doesn't end until mid-February
Yzerman's drafts have been great. Frustrating as it might be with free agency and trades....draft building takes time. My take in Larkin....he is not the leader Stevie, Nick, or Z were. The HC is responsible for team effort and cohesion, but so is the Captain. I see Larkin take shifts off and then there are signs of brilliance. He is an above average player with superstar expectations that he just can't live up to. He doesn’t take over games or shut players down. I know he is a true-blue Wing/Hometown guy everyone loves....but the responsibility that he has had to take on is too much. I also think that early on he had an arrogance issue that has gotten slightly better, but hinders him as a leader. I would like to be wrong about this, but I don't think I am.
The yzerplan is a failure , the entire second line should be replaced , not enough adding of younger players with up side , to many old players blocking young players , 4 of the 6 defenseman need to be younger , petry , chariot , holl and Gustavon all need to be replaced
Yzerman has till the end of next season. This offseason free agents wanted way more than their value. And yzerman needed to make sure Raymond and seider were signed. Some bad contracts will be off the books and a few more on final years. Also asp maybe at least ready for a call up next season. Maybe start ahl.
@ I’m just saying that just because it’s been 5 years doesn’t mean it’s a failed rebuild. And honestly I expected them to have issues this season. Not to this extent obviously. It may sound like I’m defending yzermans plan. But if he doesn’t make the playoffs in 25/26 then I would fire him. Not because of the length of the rebuild. Just because he has a lot going for him in that season. Wouldn’t take a huge move to tilt that season into a lower playoff spot
Screw yzerman.. this is the first time in 6+ years that any member of the media has asked him any type of tough questions and he gets defensive and chippy with them. This roster construction, and the overall poor play of the team rests firmly on his shoulders. Hes the one who signed a roster full of do nothing vets to immovable contracts. You wanna know what i would've done differently Steve. Not sign copp to 5x5.7 and not signed conoher to 5x5.2. Oh i also wouldnt have signed chiarot to 4x4.7. Dont forget that genius move of attaching a 2nd round pick to walman to give him to the sharks. Yep... wouldnt have done that either. I hope the he sees the same fate as newsy at the end of this season. Done with yzerman in Detroit
DONT THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER. Spoiled fans who don't remember/ were alive for the early 90s. The core pipeline is STACKED. From the same fans who were jumping off a bridge over the Stafford Goff trade, when it was known it would take at least a few years. Hockey takes three times as long, good free agents don't just come into the market cheap, or even fair priced. Larkin Seider Raymond signings are legendary GMing, this season was never supposed to be a run.. look at the salary cap room next year, the increased cap on top of that, and who will be available combined with Danielson, Cossa Talbot, and ASP. CALM DOWN
A better way?? Sure steve.. how about offer a decent long term contract and stop paying kids nothing to win a cup so you think you can look like the best gm in the world bc its not working! Trying to build a future will never happen with 1 and 2 year contracts. The free agents are laughing when they hear the wings are interested bc they want commitment! Not a 1 year contract!
compher, kopp, rass, tarastinko, petry, sheot, whoever these goalies are( pick one). these guys are slow and not interested. rasmussen does what exactly? top ten pick that we have to have. sure. it sucks that yzerman wheels and deals like he does press conferences. nothing to see or hear. waiting for the kids. lets go...2027
The problem will rebuild a team you need get luck on certain year like 2015 was mcdavid and so on like red wings need to see when is hood way to chase for a legit good player
I've never cared for Larken from his first day of captaincy. I've never seen him as a true leader or had the grit like vintage Stevie. It trends towards whining. I'd trade him in a heartbeat.
You're an idiot. He showed his leadership and grit last season, but maybe you didn't watch all the games. Sounds like you would put the wings in a position to be moved from detroit.
You clearly haven't bee watching the games. Last season Larkin willed the team to plenty of wins. Did you NOT see how much we lost when he was out? Seems like you are the type who would trade our team in a one decent season, then trade it into moving to a different city.
I think the problem rests with the current roster and chemistry, more than coaching or leadership. They all play a role, but this current team lacks "so much" offensively and defensively. Ultimately, the roster is the responsibility of the GM and ownership. McLellan is going to need some help from the front office to be able to turn things around.
Wow, im pretty disappointed in the fans here, who have NO experience in the nhl and love to monday quarterback. Hind sight is 20/20. Larkin is not, the problem. He willed the team to winning last season many times. Trading him wouldnt fix ANYTHING. Steve has made some bad trades, but there isnt an endless pool of players to trade for. I will put up with a few bad seasons, if it gives us another 10-15 yrs of greatness like we had. Remember, we were the dead-wings for about 20 yrs before our incredible playoff run. Look how many teams have a season of getting to the 1st round, but are surrounded by decades of being barely worth watching.
It seems there are lots of fans who would prefer to end up like the Minnesota Wild, a perennial second round exit with no meaningful chance to go all the way.
Zach Parise, and some other guy who’s name escapes me may have one a cup with the Henry, Pasha lead teams but at last they went to Minnesota Wild 😢😮No cup for them . Maybe they should ask the Stars for their nickname back or simply tell the league their name has North in front of it?! lol.
I agree. He hasn't had the same consistency that he had last yr. Well, the whole team hasn't. NOT sure that the idea of changing lines after every loss is the way to go. Gotta have time to get in sync.
Larkin never struck me as the captain type. He is good, but his personality doesn't jive with being a captain. The Wings have been screwed by the draft over and over. I don't care for the veteran signee's...but just like the draft...you can only sign/draft the available players. The development of the kids takes time. The next couple seasons are going to be crucial, alot of kids should be coming.
Larking definitely needs to be called out take away the C. The problem is that the vets brought in (Kane and Tarasenko) are basically beta personality types and the younger guys really need someone or something to latch on to. This team has no identity. I watch this trainwreck every game and I don't have a clue other than maybe a bunch of listless guys skating around aimlessly is who they really are.
Steve Y is the reason this team is bad. The FA and Trade he made have just about been all bad. He has not addressed the defense for years. He trade or let go r 3 best defense man witch where not great but way better then what we have. All his trade for Goalies have not work but I did like those trade when he made them. We have Cobb Ras Veleno Comper motto and Fisher all the same players. Cobb and Comper r a waste of money Ras and Veleno have not taking many step forward think they r a bust Fisher is the best on and worth the money. There r 7 to 8 players that we can't even give away because no one wants bad players. The draft has been ok but he has pick alot of players just like the 5 guys from above. It time for Steve to move up and give someone else the GM job. He a great job in Tampa but a bad job in Detroit
Teams won't trade with him because of the 2 teams he built in tampa! Also Larkin isn't that guy! He's just a good 2nd liner on a playoff team. Same with raymond. Seider is the only game changer the readings have. They need a couple grinders and do everything to get Brady tkachuk!!)
What people don't seem to understand is how much ken holland drove this team in the ground. That there is probably 3 years of damage, That Yzerman had to work with one arm tied behind his back. Besides, watch Larkin. Id take his C from him and give it to someone who gives a damn. I'd put my money on Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson, before Larkin any day.
Wild take thinking Larkin doesn't give a damn haha. He's been consistently for years seemingly the only one that is giving 100 (Seider now in that club). This year he's looked off I'll concede, but I don't think it's been lack of effort more trying to do too much and frustration . Hopefully the coach change brings the old Larkin back.
Maybe if this fanbase actually knew how a rebuild works they wouldn’t have been pressuring Yzerman to make the playoffs just to get bounced in the first round. Then maybe he wouldn’t have tried plugging a bunch of holes in a sinking ship with slow middle aged free agents. We should have been tanking for bedard, celebrini, hell we could have even gotten demidov at 5 this year. Instead we’ve been drafting a bunch of two way guys outside of the top 5. This team is cursed.
Yzerman isn't getting the job done. The RedWings are the worst pro team in Detroit. Even the Pistons are showing improvement. The RedWings need to make changes that include Yzerman.
This article if full of wrong assessments; sieder hasnt been the greatest this season. From the start, he has been giving about 80%, and has cost us more goals this season than he has in his career. At the red carpet event this yr, mo is the ONLY player that didnt sign 1 autograph, he dissed an 8yr old who made a sign written in german and waited 3 hrs to see him (he was impossible to miss). Mo literally speed walked the red carpet- his play so far this season has been a mirror image of the way he treated ALL the fans at the event. The whole team is to blame, and im sure it starts at the coach. That article's analysis is way off base.
We wouldn’t have had to get rid of ghost and walman if we didn’t have all these terrbile contracts and you can’t just say oh we needed vet bodies there ok grab some vets on short term contracts Shoulda never picked up Sanko his last coach in Florida was literally telling him just give us a goal evrey 7 games… in the playoffs
Not to mention gus and senko were only brought in cause yzermans two plans failed trouba and stamkos and those deals wouldn’t have us looking much better
Ok listen ppl have no patience anymore this isn't basketball or football one to 3 good top picks isn't going to make us a playoff team agian or a contender holl petery chariot even kane and tarasanko aren't apart of this team when we start competing for cups copp and comhpher might be here for a year or 2 of that but the other guys will be traded bought out or the contracts will be over we had to sign someone because if not the young guys would of just got thrown into the NHL and that would of hurt them as prospects we had to fill out the roster with nhl players could we of signed a bunch of cheap guys yes but stevie came here to improve the team he signed good nhl players and has drafted very well 2 best goalie prospects in the NHL seider home run pick raymond home run pick edvinsson looks like a home run pick kasper hes young hes adjusting dainelson looks good in the ahl asp looks like he could be a karlson makar level guy Emmitt finne a 7th round pick is on pace for over 100 points in the whl looks like a possible steal dimitri bucknikov looks unreal in the khl Jessie kisskienen looks very good in the lilga this year everyone wants to focus on all the negatives it takes time to rebuild to win cups it's to win cups not just make the playoffs I want those old dominant wings teams from when I was a kid not more of the 2010s wings idc abt playoffs I want a cup and you know what we need one more top 5 pick this year id even say top 3 after that were set and good luck to every other team we get a misa a mortone or a hagins good luck but anyway have some patience it takes time I don't wanna make the playoffs and lose round one rush it like the leafs did I wanna compete for a decade plus for Stanley cups
@jwt6577 yeah that doesn't always happen that's luck big time in there also they had a pick from every nhl team one guy from every team they knew who the guys who should of been played more were
@@bmantheawsome77 The point is rebuilds are not supposed to be measured in decades and Red Wings fans are still crying about Holland while simultaneously pretending that someone like Nate Danielson is going to get to Detroit and not be an underwhelming 3C or ASP will be anything other than someone that gets physically dominated right out of the league. It'll be 2030 before they make the playoffs and probably even longer and most likely a change in front office before they find their way out of the first round.
The knights were NOT a true expansion team. They got to pick players from ANY team they wanted to. That means they didn pick rookies and build them. They picked veterans. Why do people think the knights winning cup is like the flyers 1st cup? It's not.
I personally never thought Larkin should be the captain. I know right now there really is no one else to fill that role, but it just never felt right to me. Maybe because we were spoiled having Yzerman and Lidstrom as captains. But then what do I know, (nothing really), I’m not ice side or in the locker room. He may be a great captain for all I know, only the players can answer that. It has never felt right to me though, as a long time fan watching from a distance.
Reading between the lines, if I were Larkin I would have my bags packed. Yzerman will probably send him to Chicago so he can hang out with his buddy the leading scorer or the Blackhawks a.k.a. Tyler Bertuuuuuuzzi. 🤔🤨🤯🤷🤗🙀🫣🙈🤫 LOL
I'm okay with the way Yzerman handled the press conference. It shows me that he is frustrated. And now we can move forward.
I agree. I don't see him as being rude, and I'm glad he cares, as it showed.
So many Monday quarterbacks going on. Hind sight is 20/20.
Larkin doesn't deserve to be called out, it's just the nature of being captain.
Todd said it best -"It looks like Larkin carrys a lot of that weight on his shoulders, I've got to find some other guys who are willing to put that on themselves and it starts with me. You can ask me those questions".
Larkin has never put that burden on anybody else or had anybody else offer to take some of that pressure of him until now.
Good call.
Trade Larkin. Buy out Copp, Compher
Larkin takes every media availability after a loss and rarely takes them after a win. I can imagine that's a pretty draining approach given how often the team has been losing lately. I think it shows some character that he wants to shield folks from it and take responsibility, but it also shows that the team is lacking in leaders who can share that burden with him.
@@steveo3831 He's 28 we can hold off on the Stafford treatment.
@@steveo3831ever heard of a no trade or no move clause?
I have faith in Stevie, but it is hard to watch this version of the wings
You should have seen the Wings in the 1970's up until 83-84 when Stevie was drafted and then Probert and Kocur.
That was really bad trust me.
+1
As a kid I grew up watching the Dead Things era as a kid.
It was horrible. a lot of people just do not understand the franchise was in shambles.
They even had to try giving away cars to get fans in the building.
The ones who don't remember the dead-wings of 70s &80s are the ones who are making the worst comments on here. I'm shocked, to be honest. Thanks for helping bring some sanity back.
@@kandman1091 it’s not that I don’t have faith in his plan. But I bet if Detroit isn’t a playoff team in 25/26 it will be his last year.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with holding Yzermans feet to the fire. Hes made some bad moves.. clearly.
They've been unlucky more than a few times with free agent signings to warrant their pro scouting being put to question. Also kinda confusing to me that they said after last season they needed to improve defensively and that's the style they want for the team long term then they sign Kane, Tarasenko, Gustafsson, and other guys not known for their defensive game. I get they were trying to recover the scoring from players they let go, but in doing so they built a team that doesn't match the identity they want to have at all then wonder why guys who play an offensive style game that you're also making play on their offside are struggling to adjust. And to make matters worse these guys who don't play a defensive game are not scoring, so they have a team that basically sucks at everything except the powerplay and miraculously goaltending. It remains to be seen on some of his draft picks, but so far his picks are looking promising. Especially considering this team couldn't even get a number 1 pick when they had one of the worst seasons ever.
Not every move is going to be a hit. He has done a lot more good than bad. Far too many people have unrealistic expectations and thought as soon as Yzerman was hired then all of a sudden he was going to magically turn the wings around overnight. Every single season under Yzerman, the team has slowly moved up the standings. This is the first season that they have regressed and Yzerman addressed it. People need to calm down. He will get it sorted out.
@@ValhallaRaven Honestly if people look at it realistically he did turn things around. Went from 0 prospect pool to one of the best. My biggest gripe recently is that they need to run an offensive style with the team they currently have. They are not built for a defensive system. They are long term, but most of the guys a part of the long term defensive plan aren't there yet. If they wanted success now they needed to pick guys to sign that were a better fit or accept they can't run that system right now.
I don't care there is no one I trust more the Yzerman and I'll die on that hill. I went through all of this in the 1980's and 90's. Championship teams aren't built over night.
If we indeed do end up being playoff contenders in the next year or two, Larkin’s career timeline will not be that different from Yzerman’s. Took Yzerman what, 12 years to get the team a cup?
Yeah, fans here locally are getting very Impatient with the Yzerplan. Steve has done a great job in the draft and identifying talent, free agency, and trades have been absolutely underwhelming
He's prob working with the pro scouting staff leftover from Holland
@@pwnedeful Yeah. Holland leftovers like his brother, Chris.
He hasn’t done a great job in the draft. No one out of the first round has panned out.
He's not even a good dream. I don't even have any patience. I never wanted him to begin with.He got lucky in the rich situation in tampa bay
@@vinny1537 What about Seider and Raymond?
Takes 3 yrs draft picks to prove worth.Holland left him with rookie Leaguers.His recent draft has been good.
Team Wings is undersized especially on the offense side, as a group they also lack speed, toughness isn't remotely visible with a few exceptions, this is illustrated when opposing teams stand around our goalies during and after scoring chances. Many players won't engage in checking let alone finish a check. 82 games played against men who out weigh you by 20 - 35 lbs. and by size can shield the puck will win 90% of the battles reason Wings are last in the league with 5-on-5 play. The fix is complicated, how long should a rebuild take, only the owners can determine that answer.
History repeats itself, anyone around in the early 90s remembers.
🎯 patience
People think a GM takes over and everything changes overnight. Not a single Gm in the world could have taken that red wings team over and had them as a cup contender now. That team was baaaad. Nobody has patience anymore. Did everything think McClellan would take over with one morning skate under his belt and suddenly change the entire identity of this team? So many mindless fans that think it’s easy to build a championship team with no clue what they’re talking about
Compare our rebuild to montreals and we have been completely outclassed. Their entire team is filled with young players unlike ours. They are faster and better than us.
in what way exactly? Considering the habs made the cup final in 2021 I guess you’d have to say their rebuild started the next season. They already had several of their big pieces in the system or on the active roster, like caufield and Suzuki. Since 2019 both teams have drafted really well, with Montreal having a 1st overall and two 5th overalls, meanwhile Detroits highest pick is a 4th. Both teams have improved in points every season to this point with both being somewhat disappointing this year compared to their expectations. Both teams have fired a coach mid season. And despite the canadiens being younger now, it sure hasn’t seemed to matter in standings being only 3 points apart from each other. Both teams are set up to be very good for a long time, but Montreal had much less work to do. Detroit is being rebuilt from the ground up
Yeah, I'm disappointed in the way fans expect turnovers right away. Doesn't anyone remember we were the dead-wings for about 20yrs, even AFTER Yzerman joined the team, before we got the playoff run we did? Most of these people seem to be wagon fans.
Montreal has executed a much better path to a rebuild , it's not even close
@@THEGDBtell me how
I like Larkin but he needs to be better in offensive zone period. He makes way to many blind passes resulting in giveaway’s every game! This has to change in his game. Yzerman needs to get better at signing better free agents just do it. Larkin needs to make better decisions with the puck sometimes he looks like he’s trying to do a lot by himself. The other players need to play way better especially the defensive corps
They need find a legit superstar in draft which is very hard to find
Seider is a legit superstar. Raymond and Edvinsonn may be. Hopefully there's another buried in the hyped prospects too (ASP lately). Hard to get that elite talent hit when you're screwed in every draft position (no team has fallen more in the stupid lottery system).
@@ryankather5673 Raymond is already a stud and has a respectable cap hit. ASP is showing that he's the next powerplay QB along with steady 2nd pairing D-man. Wallinder, Buium and Tuomisto are showing they can round out the rest of the D-Core as soon as next year. Lombardi and Soderblom should slot into the Bottom 6 next year. Of course this all depends on how things go in GR, which have been good so far.
@@ryankather5673 I’m talking about stuperstart like mcdavid and so on in draft that could be big difference maker
@@RDPq kind of hard to pull a once in a generation player when you don't get a first round pick due to a stupid lottery draft system.
As frustrating this season has been. I think the coaching change will be a big boost. Hopefully it will rejuvenate Larkins passion. I know we had a taste of playoff hope last year until torts threw the gane (call me old school pulling the goalie while tied with 3 minute's left is dumb 90 seconds is better) has us fans wanting and expecting more. We could get on a heater and make a run. Lets see how this plays out
The Wings are a mess. Good period at the end on Friday, but played against lines 2, 3, 4 of Leafs at that time. Every single member of the organization should be in the hot seat. Bar none!
Yzerplan is looking worse and worse every season
Literally objectively false. This is the first season the wings have regressed since he took over. What a joke.
uhhh.. except we have gotten better every year since and have the deepest prospect pool we've had in many years.. wth are you even talking about... we are 32 games into the season
I don’t understand why the importance of a checking line..or even just a checking/energy player is never brought up. The Wings play scared a lot of the time because there is nobody on the team to stick up for anyone if players on the opposing teams are taking liberties. Mo does a great job of providing hits and energy but he shouldn’t have to be the main player doing that. Even if the Wings made it to the playoffs with their current roster..they would be obliterated in the first round when the other teams really start playing physical! I’m tired of seeing them bullied and pushed around and taken advantage of. And it seems like nobody is even thinking about this.🤦🏻♂️
This has been a problem since 09 up till now, look if the standard is the Florida Panthers, & before them the Tampa Bay Lightning then when it comes to being physically up to other teams bulling then the Wings have some more drafting and mind conditioning to do. Hiring Todd is a step in the right direction if I can recall his SJ teams always were gritty and physical in fact the main reason the Wings didn’t win more cups in the 2000‘s was because they didn’t have an official enforcer to keep teams from bullying our star forwards and defense man . I always thought it was because Babs wanted the team to be a team that simply used its skating and passing ability to out shine their more thuggish or rugged opposition ie Nashville, Calgary, Anaheim , San Jose, Colorado…. West Coast , East coast Boston, NJ, Philly,Tampa, Florida, … Bashill & Lalonde I since continued that legacy of turn the other cheek hockey well I say it’s about time this team rediscover it’s physical roots with likes of Probert, Kocur, Shannahan ,Konstantinov,Verbeck, ….
Larkin is NOT the problem, never was and the jury is sill out on Yzerman.
This team is LUCKY to have Larkin. He was one of the only reasons to watch this team a couple of years ago. And even now Larkin could have easily went to play for a contender, but he chose to stay with this team that has yet to see success in the prime years of his career because he believes in his team and what Yzerman is building. And then people want to question his leadership as a captain.
They did not suck the first 40 minutes. Despite the score they did play well in the 1st period.
Giving this article this kind of face time is a mistake.
The main thing that I had questions about was the wallman trade and the lack of a trade for a goalie.
You obviously didn't watch the press conference as usual Lego so let's inform the lazy. This wasn't a snap. He was simply being realistic and trying to show a little humor because the team is going through hard times. Geez. Can anyone read the room anymore?
The wallman trade is mind boggling.
If you actually listened to the presser, the tone of what Steve said vs. the way this tweet portrays his statement is very different.
Im a Bolt fan.. what Coop does is bench the leaders when things are going badly. The capt down thru the leaders are all held accountable.. regardless of who deserves what. Yzerman has the same mentality (as the GM), and if I were a Wings guy.. I'd be extremely hopeful for the next few years.
It took Tampa a decade to win it's cup after Yzerman took over. A lot of what yzerman put together during his time in Tampa were instrumental in their back to back wins.
All this shows is that the new generation of fan has no patience or knowledge of what it takes to win. Show me a better Gm than Yzerman. People want miracles instead of dealing in actual fact. The organization is better than it was when he started. Period. Larkin was the best player he had to start with. Seider Raymond Casper and Edvinsson are budding stars. We have players coming in the system. Without a generational talent being available then you need to get extremely lucky. He is building for sustained success not just a quick playoff run for nothing. Needs a little help from the hockey GODS.
I agree. I want a long sustaining chance to win cup (like we had for yrs) than to maybe make 1st round to get beat, then suck, then make 1st round. That's no way to live.
Nobody seems to care that until just a year or two ago we still had Nielson, Abdelkader and (I believe) Ericsson still on the salary cap, or that the best prospects he had to work with were Veleno and Zadina, or that he didn't get an iota of a choice in hiring Blashill. It doesn't matter that the future heart of the team is plowing their way through the AHL regular season and is poised to make a serious run in the playoffs. Everybody wants this to be like football or basketball where two or three key signings or a virtually infinite pool of talent can turn you into a dominating force and doesn't care that the kind of skills hockey players need take time to blossom. This city is becoming a 'what have you done for me lately?' city and it's disappointing to say the least.
Yup. There definitely seems to be a lot of ungrateful vibes coming from fans at this time; this yr.
Considering how dirty ownership has done the Tigers, I have a feeling the Wings are getting hamstrung the same way
I like Yzerman’s drafting; but his FA signings are straight up awful. There are like 3-4 contracts on the wings that are just straight up untradable. No one is taking Holl, Petry, Chiarot or Copp, meanwhile giving away Walman for free (was to me) the straw that broke the camels back. Walman is a solid top 4 defender (maybe on a really deep team an incredible top 6 D option), giving him away for nothing while keeping plugs like Holl and Chiarot is just ridiculous. Larkin deserves a little bit of heat; but Yzerman needs to do a better job at surrounding his stars with actual defenders and depth forwards rather than signing guys like Holl and Chiarot who were made fun of by their former team’s fans for being sooo bad. As a Toronto resident; the Holl contract still amazes me; I wonder what kinda threats Holl’s agent had to tell Stevie Y to get him to offer that much…
As a Blues fan, i just have to lean back and bask in your pain. As cartman would say, "yummy tears of infathomable sadness". 😂
I'm just hoping that out of all this mess the big sweeping changes Wings fans have been waiting for while begin. What those will be remains to be seen, but I believe they will happen.
Ah arrogance in the face of years of failing to make the playoffs. Good plan.
I think fans/people/media forget what it took to get Seider and Raymond signed to long-term deals. Losing Jake Wallman and Shane Gostisbwhere, a very large loss in offensive production. Now I’ve got to make the best of it what they have until they can move some pieces.
You know Yzerman traded away wallman and added in a pic ?
It generally takes 3-5 years for drafted players to arrive in the NHL unless they are very high end talent. Then another couple seasons to become bona fide established players. Top end rookies generally score about 60 points in their first season. Sure there are exceptions but only few operate outside of this. If a team gets 2-3 nhl players in a draft it is considered good. With this understood, the pace to rebuild a roster with 10-12 drafted players could certainly take 8-11 years. None of us likes this timeline but without draft lottery luck, this is the reality. Perhaps it is time to reconsider the concept of building through the draft.
In all fairness Detroit's first rounders with SY look the part, they are very capable.
It is their draft selections after the 1st round that have caused a lot of headache. Instead of their own later round prospects filling in the holes, Yzerman has to spend on the fringe type UFA players plugging holes....... for bad and worse.
The triple C of Copp/Compher/Chariot has not put this roster into high gear either
Things were going so well last year and then all of a sudden this disaster maybe I should focus on the Lions season and then watch the Red Wings season only then when the Lions season ends and pray to the people up above that the Lions season doesn't end until mid-February
Wings still in a better place than my Rangers.
Trade Larkin. We need a real leader and does deserve to be called out. Yzerman was a true leader. Larkin will be gone soon.. good riddance.
Yzerman's drafts have been great. Frustrating as it might be with free agency and trades....draft building takes time. My take in Larkin....he is not the leader Stevie, Nick, or Z were. The HC is responsible for team effort and cohesion, but so is the Captain. I see Larkin take shifts off and then there are signs of brilliance. He is an above average player with superstar expectations that he just can't live up to. He doesn’t take over games or shut players down. I know he is a true-blue Wing/Hometown guy everyone loves....but the responsibility that he has had to take on is too much. I also think that early on he had an arrogance issue that has gotten slightly better, but hinders him as a leader. I would like to be wrong about this, but I don't think I am.
The yzerplan is a failure , the entire second line should be replaced , not enough adding of younger players with up side , to many old players blocking young players , 4 of the 6 defenseman need to be younger , petry , chariot , holl and Gustavon all need to be replaced
Noted and ignored. You don't even care to write proper English, why should anybody take your opinions on the management of an NHL franchise seriously?
@icedo1013 well your a goof lol
THEGDB is a failure too get out of your moms basement
It's all not warranted. My question to anyone who wants Steve Yzerman's "head": Who do you replace with with and why? .......... Exactly.
Yzerman has till the end of next season. This offseason free agents wanted way more than their value. And yzerman needed to make sure Raymond and seider were signed. Some bad contracts will be off the books and a few more on final years. Also asp maybe at least ready for a call up next season. Maybe start ahl.
@ took Edmonton 10 years with 6 top 5 picks and 4 number one picks including the best player in the nhl.
@ I’m just saying that just because it’s been 5 years doesn’t mean it’s a failed rebuild. And honestly I expected them to have issues this season. Not to this extent obviously. It may sound like I’m defending yzermans plan. But if he doesn’t make the playoffs in 25/26 then I would fire him. Not because of the length of the rebuild. Just because he has a lot going for him in that season. Wouldn’t take a huge move to tilt that season into a lower playoff spot
@ 25/26 is his final year. Outside of a playoff spot.
@ I see the point there. To me it wouldn’t matter if it was the 6th season or not
Larkin has progressively gotten more slack .
Screw yzerman.. this is the first time in 6+ years that any member of the media has asked him any type of tough questions and he gets defensive and chippy with them. This roster construction, and the overall poor play of the team rests firmly on his shoulders. Hes the one who signed a roster full of do nothing vets to immovable contracts. You wanna know what i would've done differently Steve. Not sign copp to 5x5.7 and not signed conoher to 5x5.2. Oh i also wouldnt have signed chiarot to 4x4.7. Dont forget that genius move of attaching a 2nd round pick to walman to give him to the sharks. Yep... wouldnt have done that either. I hope the he sees the same fate as newsy at the end of this season. Done with yzerman in Detroit
DONT THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER. Spoiled fans who don't remember/ were alive for the early 90s. The core pipeline is STACKED. From the same fans who were jumping off a bridge over the Stafford Goff trade, when it was known it would take at least a few years. Hockey takes three times as long, good free agents don't just come into the market cheap, or even fair priced. Larkin Seider Raymond signings are legendary GMing, this season was never supposed to be a run.. look at the salary cap room next year, the increased cap on top of that, and who will be available combined with Danielson, Cossa Talbot, and ASP. CALM DOWN
Red Wing fans have become 'fickle'.
I am shocked at how uneducated 90% of these comments are.
i would have signed lainkenen over talbot
"if you have a better way you're free to share it with me" 😂
guy running the 5th worst team in the league 6 years into a rebuild 🤐
Im shocked at how uneducated most of these comments are.
Hindsight tweets.
A better way?? Sure steve.. how about offer a decent long term contract and stop paying kids nothing to win a cup so you think you can look like the best gm in the world bc its not working! Trying to build a future will never happen with 1 and 2 year contracts. The free agents are laughing when they hear the wings are interested bc they want commitment! Not a 1 year contract!
It,s a different league now,you have to be very bad to get better through the draft. Can,t buy players like old days.
compher, kopp, rass, tarastinko, petry, sheot, whoever these goalies are( pick one). these guys are slow and not interested. rasmussen does what exactly? top ten pick that we have to have. sure. it sucks that yzerman wheels and deals like he does press conferences. nothing to see or hear. waiting for the kids. lets go...2027
The problem will rebuild a team you need get luck on certain year like 2015 was mcdavid and so on like red wings need to see when is hood way to chase for a legit good player
You think Larkin wants put with red wings cause he fed up loseing team
I've never cared for Larken from his first day of captaincy. I've never seen him as a true leader or had the grit like vintage Stevie. It trends towards whining. I'd trade him in a heartbeat.
You're an idiot. He showed his leadership and grit last season, but maybe you didn't watch all the games.
Sounds like you would put the wings in a position to be moved from detroit.
You clearly haven't bee watching the games. Last season Larkin willed the team to plenty of wins. Did you NOT see how much we lost when he was out?
Seems like you are the type who would trade our team in a one decent season, then trade it into moving to a different city.
Not only that, you didn't even spell his name right. U must be a troll.
My guy, the wings sucked that whole game, stop trying to give them a bone. The Leafs, as they do, stopped playing in the third.
I think the problem rests with the current roster and chemistry, more than coaching or leadership. They all play a role, but this current team lacks "so much" offensively and defensively. Ultimately, the roster is the responsibility of the GM and ownership. McLellan is going to need some help from the front office to be able to turn things around.
I could tell him that her number of ways to run a team better, she's not a good g. M he was a good player, but he's trash as a gm
I really hope english isn't your first language. You really scream "qualified to analyze the performance of an NHL franchise" /s
Wow, im pretty disappointed in the fans here, who have NO experience in the nhl and love to monday quarterback. Hind sight is 20/20. Larkin is not, the problem. He willed the team to winning last season many times. Trading him wouldnt fix ANYTHING.
Steve has made some bad trades, but there isnt an endless pool of players to trade for.
I will put up with a few bad seasons, if it gives us another 10-15 yrs of greatness like we had.
Remember, we were the dead-wings for about 20 yrs before our incredible playoff run. Look how many teams have a season of getting to the 1st round, but are surrounded by decades of being barely worth watching.
It seems there are lots of fans who would prefer to end up like the Minnesota Wild, a perennial second round exit with no meaningful chance to go all the way.
Zach Parise, and some other guy who’s name escapes me may have one a cup with the Henry, Pasha lead teams but at last they went to Minnesota Wild 😢😮No cup for them . Maybe they should ask the Stars for their nickname back or simply tell the league their name has North in front of it?! lol.
Hahaha, right on!
If it isnt the coaches, and it isnt the players, you only need a mirror when finger pointing to what the "problem" is.
Larkin don’t deserve much blame man he’s playing with one winger evrey game we don’t play him with cat and especially Kane
I agree. He hasn't had the same consistency that he had last yr. Well, the whole team hasn't. NOT sure that the idea of changing lines after every loss is the way to go. Gotta have time to get in sync.
@ imo this the way
Cat lark Kane
Motte copp Raymond
Ras comph fich
Senko kasper berg/veleno
If we share our ideas with Steve, do we get some of his salary?
Larkin never struck me as the captain type. He is good, but his personality doesn't jive with being a captain. The Wings have been screwed by the draft over and over. I don't care for the veteran signee's...but just like the draft...you can only sign/draft the available players. The development of the kids takes time. The next couple seasons are going to be crucial, alot of kids should be coming.
Larking definitely needs to be called out take away the C. The problem is that the vets brought in (Kane and Tarasenko) are basically beta personality types and the younger guys really need someone or something to latch on to. This team has no identity. I watch this trainwreck every game and I don't have a clue other than maybe a bunch of listless guys skating around aimlessly is who they really are.
Steve Y is the reason this team is bad. The FA and Trade he made have just about been all bad. He has not addressed the defense for years. He trade or let go r 3 best defense man witch where not great but way better then what we have. All his trade for Goalies have not work but I did like those trade when he made them. We have Cobb Ras Veleno Comper motto and Fisher all the same players. Cobb and Comper r a waste of money Ras and Veleno have not taking many step forward think they r a bust Fisher is the best on and worth the money. There r 7 to 8 players that we can't even give away because no one wants bad players. The draft has been ok but he has pick alot of players just like the 5 guys from above. It time for Steve to move up and give someone else the GM job. He a great job in Tampa but a bad job in Detroit
Remember this is a gm who as a player has to sacrifice his stats for cups, maybe he just expects too much from kids who won't make the same sacrifice
Wings are a dumpster fire 😂
Teams won't trade with him because of the 2 teams he built in tampa! Also Larkin isn't that guy! He's just a good 2nd liner on a playoff team. Same with raymond. Seider is the only game changer the readings have. They need a couple grinders and do everything to get Brady tkachuk!!)
What people don't seem to understand is how much ken holland drove this team in the ground. That there is probably 3 years of damage, That Yzerman had to work with one arm tied behind his back. Besides, watch Larkin. Id take his C from him and give it to someone who gives a damn. I'd put my money on Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson, before Larkin any day.
Wild take thinking Larkin doesn't give a damn haha. He's been consistently for years seemingly the only one that is giving 100 (Seider now in that club). This year he's looked off I'll concede, but I don't think it's been lack of effort more trying to do too much and frustration . Hopefully the coach change brings the old Larkin back.
Maybe if this fanbase actually knew how a rebuild works they wouldn’t have been pressuring Yzerman to make the playoffs just to get bounced in the first round. Then maybe he wouldn’t have tried plugging a bunch of holes in a sinking ship with slow middle aged free agents. We should have been tanking for bedard, celebrini, hell we could have even gotten demidov at 5 this year. Instead we’ve been drafting a bunch of two way guys outside of the top 5. This team is cursed.
Yzerman isn't getting the job done. The RedWings are the worst pro team in Detroit. Even the Pistons are showing improvement. The RedWings need to make changes that include Yzerman.
This article if full of wrong assessments; sieder hasnt been the greatest this season. From the start, he has been giving about 80%, and has cost us more goals this season than he has in his career.
At the red carpet event this yr, mo is the ONLY player that didnt sign 1 autograph, he dissed an 8yr old who made a sign written in german and waited 3 hrs to see him (he was impossible to miss). Mo literally speed walked the red carpet- his play so far this season has been a mirror image of the way he treated ALL the fans at the event.
The whole team is to blame, and im sure it starts at the coach.
That article's analysis is way off base.
We wouldn’t have had to get rid of ghost and walman if we didn’t have all these terrbile contracts and you can’t just say oh we needed vet bodies there ok grab some vets on short term contracts
Shoulda never picked up Sanko his last coach in Florida was literally telling him just give us a goal evrey 7 games… in the playoffs
Not to mention gus and senko were only brought in cause yzermans two plans failed trouba and stamkos and those deals wouldn’t have us looking much better
It’s time to trade Larkin
Terrible take
Horrible idea. Glad you're not gm.
Fire yzerman hire Ken Holland
How long has Yserman been here? Sorry Stevie, love ya, but you're not very good at your job.
Longest rebuild ever
Not even close
Ok listen ppl have no patience anymore this isn't basketball or football one to 3 good top picks isn't going to make us a playoff team agian or a contender holl petery chariot even kane and tarasanko aren't apart of this team when we start competing for cups copp and comhpher might be here for a year or 2 of that but the other guys will be traded bought out or the contracts will be over we had to sign someone because if not the young guys would of just got thrown into the NHL and that would of hurt them as prospects we had to fill out the roster with nhl players could we of signed a bunch of cheap guys yes but stevie came here to improve the team he signed good nhl players and has drafted very well 2 best goalie prospects in the NHL seider home run pick raymond home run pick edvinsson looks like a home run pick kasper hes young hes adjusting dainelson looks good in the ahl asp looks like he could be a karlson makar level guy Emmitt finne a 7th round pick is on pace for over 100 points in the whl looks like a possible steal dimitri bucknikov looks unreal in the khl Jessie kisskienen looks very good in the lilga this year everyone wants to focus on all the negatives it takes time to rebuild to win cups it's to win cups not just make the playoffs I want those old dominant wings teams from when I was a kid not more of the 2010s wings idc abt playoffs I want a cup and you know what we need one more top 5 pick this year id even say top 3 after that were set and good luck to every other team we get a misa a mortone or a hagins good luck but anyway have some patience it takes time I don't wanna make the playoffs and lose round one rush it like the leafs did I wanna compete for a decade plus for Stanley cups
Meanwhile Vegas literally went from a stack of blank jerseys to a Stanley Cup finalist in a year and Cup winner in six.
@jwt6577 yeah that doesn't always happen that's luck big time in there also they had a pick from every nhl team one guy from every team they knew who the guys who should of been played more were
@@bmantheawsome77 The point is rebuilds are not supposed to be measured in decades and Red Wings fans are still crying about Holland while simultaneously pretending that someone like Nate Danielson is going to get to Detroit and not be an underwhelming 3C or ASP will be anything other than someone that gets physically dominated right out of the league. It'll be 2030 before they make the playoffs and probably even longer and most likely a change in front office before they find their way out of the first round.
The knights were NOT a true expansion team. They got to pick players from ANY team they wanted to. That means they didn pick rookies and build them. They picked veterans. Why do people think the knights winning cup is like the flyers 1st cup? It's not.
@@thefamilymans2545 exactly plus as I said there was some luck as well
Yzerman would resign and go elsewhere but he realizes that there is no other team in the league that would have him!
ONLY N.Y RANGERS ARE DESPERATE ENOGH YZERMAN IS = TO CHRIS DRURY
I personally never thought Larkin should be the captain. I know right now there really is no one else to fill that role, but it just never felt right to me. Maybe because we were spoiled having Yzerman and Lidstrom as captains. But then what do I know, (nothing really), I’m not ice side or in the locker room. He may be a great captain for all I know, only the players can answer that. It has never felt right to me though, as a long time fan watching from a distance.
Larkin is an option to be traded this season.
Reading between the lines, if I were Larkin I would have my bags packed. Yzerman will probably send him to Chicago so he can hang out with his buddy the leading scorer or the Blackhawks a.k.a. Tyler Bertuuuuuuzzi. 🤔🤨🤯🤷🤗🙀🫣🙈🤫 LOL
Yzerman is in a predicament. He can only trade players and fire newbie coaches l. He can't fire HIMSELF. YET😅😂🤣😭
What would you do to make the team better today?
The main thing that I had questions about was the wallman trade and the lack of a trade for a goalie.