Rescue Drill (Confined Space)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- A rescue drill conducted at a well known Barossa Winery in August, 2013 after completing Confined Space, SCBA & Rescue training with MSS Safety
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Good work, you proved not only victim's life is important but also rescuers safety. the bitter fact is more than 50% victims are rescuers in real time scenarios of confined space emergencies. fast is fine but hurry may kill you.
Good demo. Few items that I noted. No helmet. This is a must for any rescue. Get Petzl Vertex helmets that have chin straps and don't fall off. Good use of two winches one a s primary and other as secondary. The SKED needs to be used with both head and leg straps and not as shown here. If doing vertical lift you need to use the rope supplied. SKED can be pre-rigged outside of rescue by other personal. Good quick response.
I did like the video, it had a few issues, already mentioned, and for most of us watching we understand if someone were in the victims position they would probably have already bled out. I think that as part of the operation of this rescue scenario the rescuer's could have provided first aid to stop the fictitious bleeding, there was no communication with the victim in this incident, regardless of whether this individual is conscious positive outcome scenarios, should have been verbalized in the operation. The area where the retrieval system was set up was a little to busy, while the rescuer's are in motion whoever might be the top man should definitely be taking up the slack in their safety lines, and the are where they first reached the victim, they moved the ladder out of the way but not far enough which could have caused an injury to the rescuer. Pre-planning of this event should have included the rescuers establishing where they would be moving during this scenario so they would cross safety lines and end up tripping over each other. This is a good tool that I will use when addressing confined space rescue operations and pre-planning. Thank you to the makers of the video.
I reckon the casualty died, A real Rescue team would have already had Harnesses on and BA powered up, entered confined space with Airline ( Assuming bad atmosphere) yet NO escape set for casualty so basically you just performed a body recovery
Possibly because the casualty is expected to be wearing one but wasn't here cuz its a dummy. But yes there is a possibility that the BA has malfunctioned although less likely.
Thanks for sharing. Valid positive points listed. However, also noticed no gloves, no goggles, safety line was connected to the same anchor point. Also the stretcher lift could have been horizontal with an extra sling given there is no restricted egress vertically. Any equipment can be used in an emergency but more dedicated rescue kit would have been preferable. A safety ling would have been nice considering risk to patient. Helmets for rescue crew a must to prevent rescuer injury, and dedicated rope rescue helmets (such as Petzl) can be worn with Breathing Apparatus. Rope extrication was a little rushed and not controlled. Possible need to get medic to patient given lack of responsiveness lol. Good communication between crew. Good rescue strategy.
They could work on their radio communication, and response time.
what makes confined space rescues very difficult from Other emergency rescues is the time limit, very less time is required to rescue someone trapped Inside a confined space ,it was a good attempt we can more in.subsequent videos
i kept waiting for them to get out the giant drill to do the rescue before i realized i'd misunderstood the title
If your crew is on SCBA extraction should take less than 5 min unless the victim can be placed on supplied air.
Thanks for sharing , the rescuers must wear safety helmets.
Only required where an overhead hazard exits. Not required at all times.
@@cliftonfoy5907 slip and head injury on that wet hopper could have resulted in another victim - i agree with the earleir psot - helmets for sure.
No helmet
No gloves
No safety life line
No stretcher gide line
The wash water pouring down on the guys made this exercise tougher, Must have felt miserable !
Good work guys .
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Good team work and executed the task safely. However, I understand that they are doing drill but without PPE? They rescuer went in without the gloves and helmet. What if he gets his head injury while banging against the structure?
+Amrit Sunuwar What if the helmet gets stuck, or the gloves lead to further entrapment in a moving piece of equipment? Not saying you're wrong - but don't always assume that every item of PPE will only help the situation.
So you 'got my point', but couldn't help necro a year old comment to tell us all about your experience?
Cool story bro.
For sure, there were many things that came up in the post-drill debrief, helmets, non-latex gloves, better patient management, better PPE, whether back pack style sets would have been better than the air supplied sets.
@Happy Bear upload one of your rescue mock drills
Improper usage of PPE's such as chin strap, no hand gloves, harness not hooked up in some scenes.
all good, but missing the helmet on rescue team
Thanks for sharing. However, shouldn't all facial hair be removed below the upper lip if any respiratory equipment is being worn so that the rubber/silicone gasket seals properly to the skin?
AS1715:2009 App B2 gives very specific instruction (shall) only in reference to side burns. All other considerations relating to facial hair from a legislative or regulation perspective are 'should', 'may' etc. If I had been the team leader, i would have selected only personnel whose face masks were not potentially compromised in anyway. Given this was a practice of a new technique, with no atmosphere risk, the Team Leader assessed the situation, undertook successful mask leak tests before the BA team was deployed. But well spotted!!!! :)
@@msssafety gas molecules are finer than facial hair follicles. There for leak test will seem and feel to pass but still be able to compromise the user. Alot of learnings hopefully have been taken from this some years ago and implemented.
You are 100% right no facial hair is accepted in any department once a breathing apparatus is being worn with confined space. I'm actually surprised of the bs excuse that was given
Good work!! You could improve more though.. Took a little to long.. As for the comment about being a recovery your wrong and you need to go back into the classroom no offence.. You always don in fresh air and you never have BA on until ure at the entry and have had your pressure checked with your ECO and that's both rescuers going in
Thanks! If you listen closely the BACO calks for a mask leak test and this is completed. The SCBA in this scenario was a precaution, not a requirement for the task. The boys did good for their very first run through of this scenario, but we can always do better!!!
Please reed the sked instructions
Appreciate the video guys... Anybody have any good resources for engulfment procedures for the United States?
No Assessment of patient condition, injuries. Suspected # to legs initially. Full body compression onto injuries when lifted vertically. I appreciate moving the patient if time critical but this was not established to begin with. Also in this space KED and collar could have been used. No C-spine protection when moving patient. Again dependent on patient condition which is why rapid primary and secondary survey paramount
What is the black colour rope is it a supply for breathing apparatus for rescuers
تدريب رائع ولكن ينقص بعض الملاحظات .
كان عدد الأشخاص كثير بدون ترتيب المهام في ماكن قريب من مكان الخطر .
كان يجب استخدم السلالم مع جوده يسرع في عمل النزول والخروج .
عدم وجود اجهزه افحص الغازات مع الفريق كامل .
عدم وجود وظهور مايثبع العزل المكنيكي
è un addestramento... ma cosa diversa sarà in caso di... /// it's training ... but what's different will be in case of ...
ohhh the head... of patient, becareful....on the sked...
good job but there are a lot of mistakes
Yep. The people making comment pretty much nailed it. I hope some learnings were taken away from this scenario.
Good job team,👍👍👍👍
8:44 the bloke in green standing on the staircase, clipboard in hand and only a token hold on the handrail while concentrating on the rescue - he could have easily become another victim if he had overbalanced.
Why wasn't a real patient used? Using a dummy is not heavy enough. There is no way two people would be able to move or carry a patient normally.
"Dave", the rescue dummy used in this training scenario, is actually over 75 kilos.
The biggest problem is that by not having a real patient is that you are not practicing any patient care. You have no patient attendant during any manoeuvres. Therefore you get no patient feedback during the rescue. You may as well be lifting a tree limb out. Also the patient does not have any neck support and why are you using a pre-rigged winch? I don't mean to sound picky, but in our own Cave Rescue Squad (confined space rescue) we train as close as possible to real life situations including specific injuries, putting in anchors, running fresh air supplies and running communication lines throughout the cave.
+Chris Curtis With this being a Winery The team that is on standby knows the equipment IE machinery used to make wine. If a plant has the money to buy pre-rigged winch they can use it. thats their SOG.
you are, of course, correct. This was a drill to test out the rescue plan. It was not a real rescue. It was the very first run through. No one in their right mind would suggest testing a new technique with a live human being, no matter how willing. Subsequent to testing and refining the rescue plans (which the client has created for almost every confined space location on site), further drills have been completed, using live humans.
Well, that drill contains for minor injuries...
What respirator and dummy are you using?
Type in - Demonstration of The Portable Davit
good and faster rescue
Ok really, I’ve seen 30seconds, way this is going, it’s not a rescue, the team has already decided it’s body recovery... NOT a good test, or video
What's rong with you guys why you are not fixing your chain strip.
what is the name of this tripod ? . i will ask mmy company to pring one . it s very useful .
Hi amin - have a look at this link...
mss-safety.com.au/index.php/component/virtuemart/view/category/virtuemart_category_id/238
good but i think they need many seafty
not a good drill, if that was a real man, and have any broken legs, etc. he would have bled out, and died before the rescuers were ready, 3 min 30 sec!! to "suit up" you need to get to the casualty quicker than that!! you need to re-title it, body recovery drill, NOT rescue drill.
these Safety Staff i mean officers Make alot of mistake in this video they have doing Unsafe act Many times in this video
lots if manual handling and no gloves worn 😕😨. safety 1st guys guard those digits👐
I too noticed no gloves, I am a rescue technician
i am not sure if i can call this confined space since it is pretty open from the top
Not used for continuous human occupancyNo easy way to get in our outLarge enough that an employee can bodily enter.Its a confined space.
It depends on national regulations, countries other than US have very different regulations. If this were the UK, it could easily have been classed as a confined space.
No safety glass..and BA set
09.00 minutes..??erm...hand glove..??safety helmet..??ermmm...
In this condition..Safety officer Wants grip so that's why they did not use Glove's in it
If you think of the ideal, you will never save the person. I should know how to use the limited resources that u have if you’re a good rescuer
Malos procedimientos
Should have had rescue on site ready to go. Every second counts when it comes to rescue
My only issue is... with confined space in practical use.. there isnt daylight. Its much harder in blackness. usually confined space ticket comes with tank rescue ticket. and to get that ticket have fun in the tank. That was Alberta regulations for oil-field work.. besides GODI, H2S, Industrial first-Aid n shit.
a hope is faster.
i think you gonnyou gonna ned more drills and much faster than this , 6 min is the maximum
What legislation states that 6 min is the maximum?
It depends on the situation dude
@@fredgeorge7159 6 minutes you will end up with only retrieving bodies from inside the confined space, there wont be anyone alive
Chuck old mate on the ladder for stretcher safe as hahaha
FAIL FAIL FAIL.
100% how NOT to use strap on SKEDCO product.
That yellow strap is to be used with the second strap (both are marked for head, foot). FOR HORIZONTAL LIFTS.
The 3/8" static rope that comes with the SKEDCO has to be weaved into the product to do the vertical lift as was done.
Come on boys. Learn your product and take this seriously.
You are exactly right
I was about to comment the same. I am a team member at a Papermill in south Alabama. We never do vertical lifts with the horizontal starp. Always the 3/8 bridle weaved into the sked. Using one yellow Horizontal strap the, victims life is now hanging on about 2 inches of plastic on each side. 100% Fail!!!
Work is very slow and rescue people's not wear gloves
sorry about my comment ( unsafe rescue operation specially for victims )
What a mess
No gloves....no helmet 😂
This is not confined space
It is a confined space as the hopper contained fermented grapes (CO2), and has no safe exit
Absolutely a confined space. Low spot for hazardous gases to collect, engulfment hazard of products is present and not intended for occupancy.
@@MrJadams27 yes and no access and egress without the use of equipment/ machinery
What a shit show. No head protection and way to many people. Rescue should have already been at the confined space, sked used improperly. One of the worst drills i have ever seen.
The worst rescue I’ve seen