Having worked for three British companies bought out by the Yanks, it's always meant asset stripping and job losses. Our political class need to grow a pair and start protecting British businesses .
Brexit devalued the pound and made a lot of companies attractive propositions for foreign companies, the best way to remedy this would be to rejoin the EU if at all possible.
@@Purple_flower09 The EU is much stronger with UK in it and we haven’t diversified all that much. No idea how long the process might take but I doubt it would be anything like 30 years. In a reformed EU it could happen very quickly.
I worked for a UK company that was taken over by a US company which in turn merged a couple of times. At one stage I had to ask what was the official name of the company.
UK in the EU You have a democratic say. By voting to send MEPs to the EU Parliament & government ministers to the Council of the EU. UK with US You have no democratic say.
And . . . what would the British economy, culture, even p/Politics, look like (today) if it were not for the supposed dominance of the United States? Hmmm? (Brexit, anyone....?) How much differently, notably in an age of increased global homogeneity, at least in Western democratic states, would the United Kingdom of Great Britain look/function without the dreaded ethnic ooze of those Yanks and their cultural imperialism (as assessed by a Briton, any debate over anything 'imperial' feels tongue-in-cheek.) Is the implication, or outright charge, that the United States is somehow holding-back Britain, is standing in the way of that lamp under that bushel from illuminating? The reality is, as difficult it may be to digest, the United Kingdom of Great Britain never truly recovered from the near-devastation of the Second World War and the consequent loss of her overseas vassals. That is the view from 30,000 feet, decade-by-decade. It is the strategist's view, in terms of national divestment. From the start, the working slate of (what would become) Great Britain was predicated upon the absorption of territory and treasure from outside the original English borders. This trend continued outward, from the North Atlantic to other continents. The United Kingdom of Great Britain evolved as a colonial project (for right or wrong.....) Without that (near-template of a) model, the overarching wealth/influence/power balance in relation to other countries, especially the United States, the whole thing, in plain parlance, just doesn't work. The United Kingdom is a nation small in both area and (relative) population that still mourns its dubiously glorious past. It sees any involvement or cooperation with other nations as something akin to intolerable interference. But then . . . where are all of the British firms, interests, entities that could supplant what the United States has done and will continue to do? Is the idea that, somehow, participation in a global association with the U.S. has prevented British firms/interests from reaching certain heights and/or perhaps had been stymied from the first BY the U.S.? Great Britain has a complicated relationship even with its immediate neighbors. They're a part of Europe. They're not a part of Europe. That almost-schizoid national psyche. So, ultimately, what is the position of this (supposed) America-uber-alles thesis? Let's blame those Yanks for our angst, internally and otherwise? Every policy prescription that fails, every time a British firm is eclipsed by a foreign (expressly American) firm, every move backwards, every dip further into increasing poverty and even dissolution, the rally-cry will ring out, *"Blame the Yanks!"*? Down with Pax Americana? Is that the level to which the U.K. has reduced itself, per this gentleman's prescription? No internal analysis, no reflection inwards, no real insights, no little looksie under the hood (or bonnet)? Really? C'mon, Britain. Be better. (And I would love to have an elaboration on the supposed pilfering of $3-billion annually of "art," or some such . . . Let us take a stroll through the British Museum, shall we, boys & girls?)
@@jamesmatthewneeland5707 “still mourns its dubiously glorious past”.…What? Kids up chimneys? Workhouses? Slaving away in mills for a pittance? Multiple families living in slums sharing one toilet? Wake up! Nobody mourns for those days..
@@anthonyferris8912 You know precisely what I mean, regardless of your straw-man distraction. The influence, all the glitz and glamour, of "empire" . . . . It is mourned in the manner of refusing to adapt to the changing landscape of the Common Market, then the European Union. This go-it-alone insistence, born of the delusion of disconnection, of not requiring the (symbiotic) support of other nations, believing itself to still be buttressed by a 'great and glorious' network of vassal states in a 'Commonwealth' able to be swayed this--a-way-&-that by the whim and wish of Westminster. Them's the good ol' dayz - delusions of grandeur and international relevance wedded to a past long since buried (or, more succinctly, cremated) or, better yet, never to have been ventured in the first place. You are smart enough to understand to what I was referring.
@@notgettingdata Countries with the highest number of stationed US troops - Japan (53,246), Germany (35,188), South Korea (24,159), Italy (12,405), UK (9,949)…Seems Japan, Germany,South Korea and Italy get way more abuse. 😅🤣😂
A prime example is our card payment system, Visa, MasterCard, Apple and Google pay are all operated by US based companies, we're literally losing control of our own money to America..
UK in the EU You have a democratic say. By voting to send MEPs to the EU Parliament & government ministers to the Council of the EU. UK with US You have no democratic say.
@@Jaytwisty23 That's nonsense and most EU countries said so, they valued our input. Now, having left the EU, we are most definitely laughed at and talked down to and ignored! And of course our economy has taken a hit. Brexit was, and is, a self-defeating disaster and not one person can list all of the 'benefits' that we've 'acquired' from leaving. No major trade deals signed, not with the US or India, neither of which are on the horizon, and not being part of a massive trading block of 400 million people who literally have zero clout and leverage! And all so that some people can moronically chant 'we've taken back control'. If it was so pathetic it would be laughable.
I feel so "re-assured" by our Atlanticist Conservative MPs (with Labour not that different, remember Blair's shoulder-to-shoulder with our special relationship into Iraq) that Britain is bound to be looked after by our "special" ally, the United States.
We will be asset stripped but U.S. Blair could not stand up to G Bush. So in we went into an illegal war. No different now. NHS and health insurance damage for all of us.
The only thing "special" about the Special Relationship is its extraordinary one-sidedness. BTW the 51st state of the USA is Israel, not the UK, but it helps explain why we support Israel, i.e. because America does, and does so for at least partly strategic reasons.
My parents recognised it early on - I grew up hearing about this. As soon as Labour signed up to neoliberalism, my father said that's it. We have the American system now.
ARM is now quoted on the NYSE, after the Tories allowed it to be bought by Softbank. Can you imagine the US permitting the sale of Intel,AMD or Microsoft to foreigners?
UK in the EU You have a democratic say. By voting to send MEPs to the EU Parliament & government ministers to the Council of the EU. UK with US You have no democratic say.
@@AB-zl4nh what are you spamming about?No one cared about them in the eu. Eu parliament is a joke,the commision runs things and is appointed by the germans who are in turn a vassal state of the US.
The EU have been dictating our laws for decades and they are still at it via the ECHR toward non member and member states. We have never had democracy, just an illusion of it. If our elected leaders would do their job and act in the interests of the electorate rather than for personal gain, it might be a start.
It was an invention of the English upper class in the post war, post empire period. An attempt to rationalise what had happened “we’re no longer number one, but were number one’s best chum”. MacMillan even had a version for those with a classics education, describing the U.K. as “Greece to America’s Rome”. However the US Secretary of State Dean Acheson may have been more accurate “Lost an Empire, but haven’t yet found a role”. Still haven’t.
@@davidpaterson2309 No need to invent a load of waffle. The term 'Special Relationship' was first by Churchill. On the 5th March 1946 Winston Churchill delivered his speech in Fulton Missouri coining the phase “Special Relationship” for the first time.
@@anthonyferris8912 And you presumably think that Churchill was not a member of the English ruling class? And is what MacMillan and Acheson said “waffle” simply because you were unaware if it? OK. Thanks.
We live in an interdependent world, & an ever increasingly dangerous one. Small countries, & Britain is a 'small' country, need to choose who to connect with in order to survive/thrive. Leaving the EU was a major mistake. When Britain 'was' a member, it was a 'big' country within the EU, now Britain is ; nowhere. :(
Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan drained the British military. UK got nothing from those two disasters. Someone needs to step up and say "Britain needs to be Britain"
yeah and they never learn from their mistakes do they, we shouldn't be having wars in the 21st Century and let's be clear this has come about because of NATO expansion, it's not Russia that is the problem, it's the Americans, they are war obsessed and their Defense Contractors dictate foreign policy
Britain only stopped paying back American loans of WW2 in 2006 I believe. The US doesn't have friends, they have interests.(Exception being that little middle east country on the Mediterranean coast).
@@bhupendraparekh6225 I can book you a speaking gig in the US where you can explain to Americans why they should accept responsibility for European security. I'm sure they have not yet understood it.
The USA bankrupted Britain during the Second World War. We have been, as a nation, subordinate to them ever since. It’s not just the UK, all western nations are subordinate to the USA, if it’s seen by Washington as being in their strategic interest, and they pursue those interests through (mainly) their military might. Even countries such as Germany have recently suffered as a result of American intervention in their affairs (Nordstream 2) They have been fuelling the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine for at least 20 years. None of this is new information. The USA will not tolerate any nation that might damage, or threaten what they perceive to be their economic, political and strategic interests. It’s not going to change anytime soon.
Yes when Trump talks about 2% NATO defence spending, what his saying is we want you to buy American arms. That way we can then fund their arm industry, remember when Turkey bought Russia air defence system America said they wouldn't anymore sell them F15s. They have now done so after Turkey allowed Sweden into NATO. France has it's own fighter jets ,so does Sweden, German it's own battle tanks of course it's in the interest of countries to build their own systems, for employment and export reasons
It’s not just Americans we sell our souls to. ARM was a hugely important British technology company, developed during the thriving British home computer era in the 80s and that owns the technology Apple and Samsung base their phones (and now Apple base their Macs on) and Tesla uses. This was sold to the Japanese company Soft Bank, much to the uncontrolable joy of Philip Hammond. “This shows what confidence foreign investors have in British companies” 🙄. Yeah like develop another company like that in today’s climate. I think it’s a mixture of the UK being so anti-business, not having the managerial talent and owners of companies having an uncontrollable urge to become rich beyond their wildest dreams. Serif, that make great Graphic Design Software and was a British owned company, was sold last month to an Australian company. Death by 1,000,000 cuts.
True. Everything sold off for a quick buck, or a corrupt back-hander to a Tory politician, zero future investment and now of course at the back of the trade queue behind the rest of Europe because of the brexidiots. Sadly, the once Great Britain is now history.
@@jdlc903 They say they are, but are they really ? Compared to other countries ? Employers national insurance, a tax on the number of people you employ, regardless of profit. The same with business rates. A tax based on what they think your business should be earning rather than what it does earn. You only need to look at the empty high streets in the UK and compare it to some European countries to realise, perhaps they’re not doing things right here. (They definitely aren’t). IMHO
What you don't understand is... That's all an extension of America's neoliberal empire. They have the biggest empire in history except you don't always know you belong to it. Think about it. You just talked about Japan and Korea. South Korea is The same as Britain in terms of its under America's thumb. Japan is the same way, I mean America literally built their economy. And who was the first people? They really started selling their cars too, The US. Why did they do that? Why didn't they put on tariffs? Because they needed to build that industry so that they could expand Japan's economy throughout Asia. So you think it's not just the Americans. It's always the Americans. Think about the German economy and the German banks and their engagement with Britain. Now think about who rebuilt the German economy, and think about how many American bases are over there. I think about who rebuilt the East German economy after the fall of the ussr... America again both times.
I live in the US and this special relationship idea is just nonsense. This guy is spot on, the US in trade and economic affairs pursues it's own interests something the UK does not.
@@rickyp6815 Getting involved in foreign conflicts, importing insane numbers of people without having the infrastructure to support. On a simple level acting like a powerful rich country when the UK is not a rich country.
USA has higher per capita because it has no universal healthcare, weak worker rights protection in law (what are unions??) and weaker welfare systems. If you're broke in the USA you're truly broke and your living standards will be beyond appalling. I'm happy to be European and not American regardless of how well you think America's economy is doing the average American certainly is not really better off financially. America is a country for the rich.
@@truthwarrior2149it would be below only California in terms of GDP. However in terms of per capita GDP he’s right and worse yet thanks partially to Brexit our per capita GDP is falling.
I have walked down Skid Row, I have been to San Francisco. The destitution and desperation, the drugs and gun crime. Whatever you think of Western Europe that genuinely does not exist. It really is not remotely like that in Rotterdam or Munich, Marseille or even Manchester. These second cities have poor deprived areas but NOTHING like that seen on the scale of the USA's unequal distribution of wealth and minimal help for those worst off. You barely believe you eyes when people talk about the USA is all about how rich it is per person. You can't even get the medicine you might need or solid paid holiday agreements unless you're an above average earner.
but it is like that. And it will remain like that. Do you remember the gigantic trade agreement between China and the EU? The US, at the time the outgoing Pompeo and the incoming Blinken issued a statement in order to oppose it. And then it was dumped.
For me the defining image of the "special relationship" was that moment in 2005 or so when Blair was filmed standing behind a seated GWB, almost pleading to be sent of a diplomatic visit and Bush nonchalantly saying "nah, Condi's going", without even looking around to address him.
Agree! it seems like the Biden Administration uses big Tech to censor speech except for Elon Musk and politically prosecute anybody that disagrees with them or trespasses on property we pay for because the government doesn't have any money without American taxpayers
If this was the EU rather than the USA, there would be uproar, lead by these reporters who just laugh it off at this interview. Welcome to post Brexit Britain
It is the hidden racism of language. If the EU all spoke English the UK would still be in it. But all those pesky Europeans have their own languages! Not good for a nation of people who refuse to learn another language.
One of the most annoying things for me as a Brit is the way our awful American food is stuffed full of addictive sugar, and of course our US poodle UK 'government' won't do anything about that - meanwhile the NHS is collapsing under an American food obesity epidemic. That's just one example of many. So I moved to France. I now have a much better standard of living in France. It's a shame the way the UK has been asset-stripped by other countries with competent governments.
I blame the british public who time and time again voted against their self economic interests. Politicians dont spring out of the ground nor do they appear out of thin air, people vote for them, and they are a reflection of the people. Congratz on your brexit btw! Greetings from a very much EU loving Belgium!
And . . . what would the British economy, culture, even p/Politics, look like (today) if it were not for the supposed dominance of the United States? Hmmm? (Brexit, anyone....?) How much differently, notably in an age of increased global homogeneity, at least in Western democratic states, would the United Kingdom of Great Britain look/function without the dreaded ethnic ooze of those Yanks and their cultural imperialism (as assessed by a Briton, any debate over anything 'imperial' feels tongue-in-cheek.) Is the implication, or outright charge, that the United States is somehow holding-back Britain, is standing in the way of that lamp under that bushel from illuminating? The reality is, as difficult it may be to digest, the United Kingdom of Great Britain never truly recovered from the near-devastation of the Second World War and the consequent loss of her overseas vassals. That is the view from 30,000 feet, decade-by-decade. It is the strategist's view, in terms of national divestment. From the start, the working slate of (what would become) Great Britain was predicated upon the absorption of territory and treasure from outside the original English borders. This trend continued outward, from the North Atlantic to other continents. The United Kingdom of Great Britain evolved as a colonial project (for right or wrong.....) Without that (near-template of a) model, the overarching wealth/influence/power balance in relation to other countries, especially the United States, the whole thing, in plain parlance, just doesn't work. The United Kingdom is a nation small in both area and (relative) population that still mourns its dubiously glorious past. It sees any involvement or cooperation with other nations as something akin to intolerable interference. But then . . . where are all of the British firms, interests, entities that could supplant what the United States has done and will continue to do? Is the idea that, somehow, participation in a global association with the U.S. has prevented British firms/interests from reaching certain heights and/or perhaps had been stymied from the first BY the U.S.? Great Britain has a complicated relationship even with its immediate neighbors. They're a part of Europe. They're not a part of Europe. That almost-schizoid national psyche. So, ultimately, what is the position of this (supposed) America-uber-alles thesis? Let's blame those Yanks for our angst, internally and otherwise. Every policy prescription that fails, every time a British firm is eclipsed by a foreign (expressly American) firm, every move backwards, every dip further into increasing poverty and even dissolution, the rally-cry will ring out, "Blame the Yanks?" Down with Pax America? Is that the level to which the U.K. has reduced itself, per this gentleman's prescription? No internal analysis, no reflection inwards, no real insights, no little looksie under the hood (or bonnet)? Really? C'mon, Britain. Be better. (And I would love to have an elaboration on the supposed pilfering of $3-billion annually of "art," or some such . . . Let us take a stroll through the British Museum shall we, boys & girls?)
Wrong terminology was used in the interview. UK was first to approve a vaccine and were involved in its development (so I believe). The United Kingdom was the first country to grant emergency use authorization for a COVID-19 vaccine. It authorized the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for use on December 2, 2020.
@@martin-hall-northern-soul Correct, emergency approval was possible for all EU members, but the UK was the only country to take advantage of the opportunity. Two months after approval, the UK then left the EU. No, the UK was not involved as it had not prioritized mRNA technology. Biontech was the only European company (alongside CureVac, also based in Germany), which successfully conducted research in it (Katalin Karikó, who researches for Biontech, also received the Nobel Prize). Biontech, then a start-up, is now a multi-billion dollar company based in Mainz. The city has become incredibly rich, so to speak, overnight (through tax revenue from Biontech). Biontech recently expanded to Great Britain and was the first company to open an mRNA factory (research laboratories) directly in Africa. The mRNA is said to have high potential in fighting cancer.
@@martin-hall-northern-soul thx. At the time (pandemic) I was very concerned with the topic. If I had described it in my native language I would have described it in a more nuanced way and also the role that Pfizer plays in this, but you can imagine that a start-up needs a large company on its side to produce the product in large quantities worldwide.
WW2 was the final nail in the coffin for Britain. Our military power has completely gone. Owned not only by the USA, also Islamist, immigrants, Russians, Chinese, etc . I'm saddened to be British and a veteran. Not a society I want to live in.
As an American, I say thank you for your service. Britain was once a great military power, especially its navy. Your leftists (just like the ones in the USA) and the EU have sold your country down the river. I hope Brexit Makes Britain Great Again.
The problem is we have a lot of companies in the UK who have been bought by USA companies normally out of greed for the almighty dollar so a lot of the decision making has been taken out of the UK into the hands of the US ... this is what happens when a country starts to sell its soul
@@platosbeard4449 That does not have any logic to it. It's necessary to be the one exploiting and not the one being exploited. Don't try and cloud the issue using faux morality.
The reason the US companies own so much is because they have capital to buy the companies. You want to be a capitalist society but you want everyone else not to practice that within your own country. You are a midsized country whose citizens imagine that you are an important nation. You want the US taxpayer to think of you as some country that pulls its own weight. You thumbed your nose at the EU - for Gods sake!!! Now you are all blathering on about how poorly the US taxpayer treats you. Now you are arguing that you ought to thumb your nose at the US taxpayer. Best be careful my poor brothers. We might decide you are too much trouble to worry about. Then who is going to invite you to the dance?
Precisely. The United States of America requires a capable ally patrolling the North Atlantic, notably against the encroachment of Russian nuclear submarines. We don't need a partner that could, by its own recent internal audit, run out of ammunition and supplies within one to two months, possibly as expeditiously as ten days. There is a reason why British soldiers abroad have for decades now been dubbed 'the borrowers.' They are not adequately supplied. This is the fault of the U.S. ? America would like to see a prosperous U.K., a market for more iPhones and other products. This is how cross-associative economics work(s). When one does well, we all do well. We are allied in a global endeavor to secure peace and prosperity. The United States doesn't "run" or "own' the United Kingdom of Great Britain. "Full stop." That is a British compensatory delusion becoming a contemporary vogue to explain-away all of the lackluster policies, failed initiatives and increasing impoverishment and low productivity and overall stagnation. "Blame the Yanks!" Is that the new rally-cry? The reality is that Great Britain never fully recovered from the loss of her colonial vassals and has been seeking alternate revenue streams and a revised identity since. In effect, England began a colonial project with the consumption of Scotland, Wales and, finally, the annexation of the north of Ireland (post-1922...) and expanded outwards. It was actually "empire" itself that doomed the British empire. And attaching regrets and foibles to a goat named "America" and setting it to the hills is not going to solve any of the fundamental problems. I want to see Great Britain prosper - not whine and stagnate almost out of defiance of both her European identity/trade and her enviable American military and diplomatic partnership. It is silly. And it is sad. THINK ABOUT IT: The United Kingdom stands in a wonderful spot to assume the benefits of both unfettered trade with the E.U. and unparalleled protection by and cooperation with the U.S. But you're not doing that. Your internal divisions are undermining your uniquely advantageous position. It's self-injurious. "Down with the Yanks!" For real.....? That's the four-legged beast, the goat? On "fast food" : Money follows markets, and vice-verse. You don't want KFC/McD's/ Taco Bell and so on . . . ? Don't. Consume. It. The same stands for the U.S. marketplace. That, alone, is a micro-example of the larger macro-issue. Blame OUT, rather than looking IN.
@@drunkensailor112 doesn’t matter who we vote for, when they get into office, they just do what they want and ignore the voters until the next elections
If the UK was so dominated by the USA then why was Brexit allowed to happen when the White House in the USA along with USA top drawer politicians including Obama was totally opposed to Brexit?
Because the US although a sovereign superpower does not have dominion on every issue. Just because the US does not approved something does not mean we get our way. The US isn't the supreme leader of other countries dealings
I don't blame the Americans - they're basically doing what we used to do when we were numero uno. I do however, blame the tories. After 14 years of austerity, skyrocketing tax, ridiculous cuts, no reinvestment to the economy, and no protections to stop exactly this from happening, of course our local industries are going to fall behind and get bought out.
Stop depending on America and take initiative in developing and protecting your own interests. I am an American and the European countries of NATO and also the EU need to stop being ao dependent on the US. Im not saying that to sound mean im just saying thwy need to toughen up,pull their own weight and invest more in their own military and infrastructure and become less dependent on other countries because it leaves Europe vulnerable when things start going downhill.
Don't worry, when we have been assimilated by Russia the combined former countries of the EU and Russia will invade America and liberate your wealth permanently.
Well the Majority of the UK have no interest in a War the USA Created back in 2012 to 2014. So Stop depending on us to Fund your Proxy War and its Puppet Army NATO.
It's also fair to say America is enthralled with British culture, and it's influence and admiration is higher than any other foreign country. America is so large and diverse it may not feel like it from the other side, but don't underestimate it.
Other than a bit of a fascination with the UK royal family I don’t see it in terms of culture. The special relationship in terms of politics was largely dependent on our influence within the EU and that fell by the wayside after Brexit. I doubt there’s any more admiration for the UK than there is for Australia or Canada.
@@gordonspears6320 There are lots of Anglophiles in the US. I’m one of them. I just get tired the way the we have become a scapegoat for all the ills of the world, and the condescending attitudes. The double standard: a British politician must say, We will cooperate with the US when it’s in our interest, but we won’t when it’s not in our interest (Teresa May). If an American president says that, he is condemned for being “transactional”. An American president who acts in America’s interest = unilateralist. A British prime minister who acts in Britain’s interest = independent. A British prime minister who acts in the Anglo American interests = poodle/lapdog. An American president who acts in the Anglo American interest really doesn’t have a name because it’s taken for granted. When British actors, directors, cinematographers, etc. work in Hollywood, it’s part of a plot by sinister Americans to steal British talent. If they weren’t allowed to work in Hollywood, it would be an example of American isolationism and protectionism.
@@greble11 I totally agree, I get so tired of the US being blamed for everything. I believe it drives our isolationism, which is probably not good for anyone. And this whole argument is music to Putin's ears, which is never good.
@@greble11 Nicely put, at the "grassroots" level we have a great deal in common culturally but the "relationship" tends to revolve around who's in the WH and Number 10. It's clear to me the current incumbent has total disdain for the UK (especially us English) and his former boss openly despised the British, I expect you can guess why. I'm glad you noticed Theresa May's "contribution".. she tried to emulate Maggie Thatcher but ignored the best friend we've had in the White House since Reagan. I remember that statement, I'm sure it was in response to advice in regard to our upcoming withdrawal negotiations with the EU. I think she did exactly the opposite so we ended up with a total calamity! cheers
Privatisation means profits and assets go where private capital wishes it goes. So the buffoons who simp for privatisation of public services have no business complaining.
UK in the EU You have a democratic say. By voting to send MEPs to the EU Parliament & government ministers to the Council of the EU. UK with US You have no democratic say.
Some may say that the UK adopts "US style politics", but that really only applies to the nasty side of the right wing. The reason the US dominates in tech and some other area is because we encourage entrepreneurship more the UK, Europe or any other country. UK and Europe favors old established companies. They discourage new companies by discriminating against them. Citizens of other countries like the UK, Korea, Japan, etc. come to the US to start their companies because they can't overcome the barriers their own countries put up. If the UK wants to become more competitive and encourage startups, then change your own policies.
@@stevenhenry5267 What I was referring to is the financial system and laws that help startups. What you say is very true for mature industries and tech has become mature. If allowed to continue we’ll lose our edge as well as our democracy. (We’re close to that now.) For those who don’t follow this - at some point 40 or 50 years ago the DOJ decided that AntiTrust law’s purpose was to protect consumers from high prices instead of also protecting all of us and democracy from over-accumulations of power. That view continued under both Democrats and Republicans. Biden’s DOJ is starting to change that view. I hope they continue. We have only 3 national cell carriers, 1 search engine, 1 social media company, etc. That’s not good.
@@MrDubyadee1 my understanding is that bureaucracy is less in the UK relative to some EU countries. But it's hard to attract capital investment for new companies. The UK has produced some decent tech companies but the owners quickly sell out to the US.
@@Purple_flower09 In Tech they sell out quickly in the US as well. The Tech industry as we know it is "mature". High growth has moved elsewhere. Its all mammoth companies now. When Tech was young - the 1980's - Europe and the UK didn't have the financial resources available to grow a new industry. Investment tended to go to existing companies. Neither the governments nor the investor communities in Europe or Japan invested in small companies trying to grow large. The US meanwhile chases the next new thing. ARM maybe the last independent UK computer tech company or was. These days its all Apple, Microsoft, Google and Facebook. The generic hardware is all designed and manufactured in Asia.
Oh great, the British are admitting to that... just 60 years behind schedule, at the very least! Who ever thought that the military assistance and grants provided during WW2 would not come with strings attached?
Britain needs the US due to cutting of defence. Its the US which runs the sonar protecting the Atlantic from Russian subs. Same with protection for shipping, we no longer can defend convoys, again relying on the US. Iraq, Afghanistan, we had to support the US, to the detriment of the uk. Our armed force's proved that they really poor compared to the US force's, we needed the US for fire support plus supplies.
Last in the queue Obama said, they forced out of the Suze Chanel by threatening to break the pound. We were alone in 1940 with 300,000 German troops waiting to cross the English channel and they stood and watched. They only came in after pearl harbour was attacked
As an expat living in the US, my suggestion is to stop calling rhe relationship "special" and you wont feel so abused. The fact of the matter is Amerixans work harder than Brits or Europeans and they reap the rewards of that wherher thats higher pay, a better economy, or more political clout. They dont think its a "right" to get a handout from the Govt. They realise it's a globalised economy and they have to compete with the emerging Asian countries not shut themselves out of them. They see a business as profit making exercise not as vehicle to fund social welfare programs. And because if that they attract the capital and attract the smartest people to innovate abd build new industries. Europe does none of these things and that's why its circling the drain. We could learn a lot from them if we stopped looking down our noses ar them for 5 mins.
The 2 world wars that the UK was involved in destroyed their empire. The US was persuaded by the UK to join these wars. We didn't start them. Are you also lamenting the loss of empire? Do you think what the UK did in its colonies was benign? The famine in India in the 1940's was O.K.? The famine in Ireland in the 1840's and 50's where Britain watched the Irish starve was a good thing? The UK is not America's victim. It's the victim of its own history.
@@400VAL-p3v What?! That's nonsense. The rise of the Nazi's was mostly an internal post-war reaction exacerbated by some of the harsh terms of the Versailles treaty - which the US objected to.
@@400VAL-p3v Churchill was told about the famine and had the power to stop it. He chose not to. The UK Viceroy who ran the show was British. The local ethnics had very little power.
I remember working for a company bought by a US private equity company, very quickly assets, staff benefits, and wages were stripped away. If it continues we're all gonna be on 0hrs contract working 3 Jobs with no holidays. Lots of care homes are now owned by Private Equity companies.
Keep in mind that "American" corporations are in fact international corporations, owned by stockholders all over world, including British stockholders. Those profits, distributed to the shareholders, are not all going to the US. I would argue that we need to go in the other direction and tie the US, Canadian, Australian and UK economies together even tighter. IMO, it should be as easy for citizens to move around the USCANAUSUK countries as the Europeans can in Europe. Despite some criticisms (some justified) about US culture infiltrating the other USCANAUSUK countries, it is not a one-way street and IMO, a tighter integration economically would benefit all of us in that yet to be formed group. I am not talking about political integration, just economic integration.
So long as the USA maintains a majority share they're profiting at the other countries expense unless those profits are invested further into new infrastructure and new businesses. Most American investment in other countries isn't investment for the other countries its just a buyout from their perspective. The British government pretends its investment for itself but its only investment for others not Britain itself.
@@theant9821 I guess I am not understanding the situation there. My state competes with other states for new auto plants from foreign countries because although the profits go back to the country that owns the plant, it creates jobs that benefit the workers, the community and the state. If this is not happening in the UK, then you (the British citizens and leaders) need to figure out why it is not happening and make the changes needed to make it happen. Mexico doesn't own the manufacturing plants that make Hondas, Fords, etc. but they benefit from the jobs and taxes generated by these plants.
I would even support an outright political union... A new commonwealth. The past few hundred years saw British, and by extension, Anglo culture, dominate the world. Together, we are stronger. If both the UK and US were allowed to wither into oblivion, the world would be utterly alien compared to what we have been accustomed to.
Not convinced why ‘Britain in particular’ would be adversely affected by a Trump win…When the current geriatric in the White House keeps warning us he’s Irish.
You are right it would effect the entire planet. Existentially when you consider Trumps position on climate change. BTW trump is only 2.5 years younger than Biden - so both technically geriatric.
Biden doesn't give a toss about the "special relationship"... like pretty much any US President, then. He just admits it more openly than his predecessors.
Why must britain be in one camp or the other, either in the EU or Americas 51st state? We can survive on our own if we had a strong government with backbone who invested in Britain by removing excessive bureaucracy that holds british entrepreneurship back in the U.K. and investment instead of allowing foreign firms in America or the EU or elsewhere to take over what’s ours, including our talent and manufacturers and tech start ups like Arm and Deep mind… This has always been a problem in the U.K. since Margaret Thatchers privatisation of U.K. manufacturing by encouraging far too much foreign investment in the U.K. at the detriment to British entrepreneurs investing in Britain. Other countries have more sense, they don’t allow this madness to happen by destroying their competitiveness. For instance Australia needs nuclear submarines. Whilst they agree to potentially buy British made nuclear submarines, the Aussies unlike the Brits think longterm and specify they want BAE Systems to manufacture British submarines in Australia by investing in manufacturing facilities in Australia that helps build up their submarine manufacturing in Australia, including building up their nuclear industry from scratch instead of Australia relying on Britain for its subs. Whereas us in Britain sell everything off to foreign countries with no regard for the longterm consequences of our actions when those bad decisions weaken our country in the longterm on the world stage. This needs to Stop! Rishi Sunuk. Give the contract to Rolls Royce, a British firm to build Britains SMR’s and not a foreign firm like Hitachi etc. we all know a foreign contractor will win the tender in the end because Britain is still tied to EU rules and regulations.
As an American I’m confused as to what the problem is. If you want to be more self reliant, go for it. I’m pretty sure im not going on out on a limb when I say the US won’t stand in the way of the UK being more euro-centric or Atlantic/global centric. Brexit made it harder for the US to connect with Europe as our relationship with the UK and its status in the EU prior to Brexit made the UK the perfect choice to base economic, political, and defense ties to the European continent. But also an outward facing UK would be a great partner for the US, as currently has played out in the pacific. So, it’s really up to the UK what path it wishes to take, since the US sees them as an important and integral partner whichever way you slice it. In fact having stronger more capable partners helps the US’s geopolitical stance as a teammate rather than an overlord, would greatly diminish skepticism of the current rules based world order.
Precisely. The United States of America requires a capable ally patrolling the North Atlantic, notably against the encroachment of Russian nuclear submarines. We don't need a partner that could, by its own recent internal audit, run out of ammunition and supplies within one to two months, possibly as expeditiously as ten days. There is a reason why British soldiers abroad have for decades now been dubbed 'the borrowers.' They are not adequately supplied. This is the fault of the U.S. ? America would like to see a prosperous U.K., a market for more iPhones and other products. This is how cross-associative economics work(s). When one does well, we all do well. We are allied in a global endeavor to secure peace and prosperity. The United States doesn't "run" or "own' the United Kingdom of Great Britain. "Full stop." That is a British compensatory delusion becoming a contemporary vogue to explain-away all of the lackluster policies, failed initiatives and increasing impoverishment and low productivity and overall stagnation. "Blame the Yanks!" Is that the new rally-cry? The reality is that Great Britain never fully recovered from the loss of her colonial vassals and has been seeking alternate revenue streams and a revised identity since. In effect, England began a colonial project with the consumption of Scotland, Wales and, finally, the annexation of the north of Ireland (post-1922...) and expanded outwards. It was actually "empire" itself that doomed the British empire. And attaching regrets and foibles to a goat named "America" and setting it to the hills is not going to solve any of the fundamental problems. I want to see Great Britain prosper - not whine and stagnate almost out of defiance of both her European identity/trade and her enviable American military and diplomatic partnership. It is silly. And it is sad. THINK ABOUT IT: The United Kingdom stands in a wonderful spot to assume the benefits of both unfettered trade with the E.U. and unparalleled protection by and cooperation with the U.S. But you're not doing that. Your internal divisions are undermining your uniquely advantageous position. It's self-injurious. "Down with the Yanks!" For real.....? That's the four-legged beast, the goat? On "fast food" : Money follows markets, and vice-verse. You don't want KFC/McD's/ Taco Bell and so on . . . ? Don't. Consume. It. The same stands for the U.S. marketplace. That, alone, is a micro-example of the larger macro-issue. Blame OUT, rather than looking IN.
My friend I wish it was so; if you try to take an independent stance they bully you! A case in point Huawei 5G equipment, the UK securities after careful examination of Huawei wanted to adopt their 5G. The US was not happy (because of her Trade War with China) forced the UK to toe the line.
The problem is the relationship is abusive as he put it. Look at the extradition treaty between our two countries, for instance. The UK requires prima facie evidence to extradite US citizens to face trial in the UK. The US, however, does not. The bar is a lot lower when the US wants to extradite one of us. Also, look at the case of Harry Dunn. A British boy killed in a car crash caused by a US diplomat's wife because she drove on the wrong side of the road. The US has refused to hand her over EVEN THOUGH she committed the crime on UK soil.
Saw an interesting study that showed that there was actually more innovation and more new commercial ideas emerging from Uk top universities than US top universties. Only problems is that they all moved to the US when they reached a certain size. Almost like our Danish football players all dreaming of playing in the UK. :-) Also, in the end of the program there seems to be an underlying consensus that the UK is, as opposed to the US and the EU, NOT protectionist. Well. it depends on what you mean by protectionism. Let us say that some City bankers and some UK politicians agree on a new set of rules and regulations to promote fintech in the UK. In the UK this may be regarded as innovative, but as seen from the EU it may look very protectionistic? And... the statement that the UK was first to develop a Covid vaccine is certainly also up for debate. Depends on what you mean by "develop". Do you mean test according to this or that set of standards? But let us not start that discussion again. The German RNA-based vaccine was arguably the first vaccine (and approximately one third of the UK citizens were vaccinated with this German vaccine... and so were the population of Israel - the first country in the world to be fully vaccinated....) So who was fist... well.....:-)
Britain can drink and eat food as per what America says to them they can't make their own descitions and totally depended on USA and does what USA wants and says to do so
American here. I visited Britain and spent time there last year. I absolutely loved it. My spouse and I both said we would love to live there one day. The people were great and I liked your culture. I don't want us politics involved to this extent in British society. Also Britain is definitely not as poor as Mississippi. Or most of the south. That is bleak. That level of poverty is on another level.
I am 100% for Britain to join America It will improve our over all Grammar and language skills We will also get soccer & cricket! and beautiful British women in our bars
Yeah, but in exchange they would have to give up NHS... no more universal health care or affordable education, plus more income disparity and tax cuts for the rich and big biz. Let the privatization of everything and the politicization of religion begin.
@@phiksit You wouldn't have to give up the NHS. You'd just have to pay for it and Medicaid/Medicare. California and Vermont have both tried to implement their own state run health care services, but stopped for this very reason. Financially it simply makes no sense. But if you were that married to the NHS you could keep it, there's no law saying states couldn't.
The UK is now soooo detached from the rest of Europe, today French guards guarding Buckingham Palace and British guards guarding The Élysée Palais. 🤣😂😆
Of course, you'd all be better off, _if_ you had started equivalent corporations, or outcompeted American corporations, but you didn't. And it's magical thinking to believe that history would have unfolded with very similar businesses in Britain, had America not been there to build them, and shared her R&D and Defense umbrella with Britain after WWII.
American here - wanting only the best for British people. Whatever the prognosis, Britain has many friends in America. Keep calm and carry on - as always.
Bruh, the British invaded our capital and razed it. There's a reason why Americans can't visit the true original White House today. Don't lie to yourself and think the British don't look down on you. There's a reason why they tarred and feathered Meghan then chased her out of Buckingham after stirring up drama about her in the press.
How is a Trump term concerning? Wasn’t the Middle East a lot more peaceful (relative to before and after)? Wasn’t he the only US President in modern history who hasn’t dragged you into larger conflicts? Isn’t he the only US president in decades who dared walk up to the NK DMZ personally, to express peace through power and ask them to stop the saber-rattling? What was actually concerning, compared to now?
The whole truth of the matter is we've never had a special relationship with the United States America, we've always had a relationship and that is far as it goes. Most American daily news papers hardly have any news focused on the United Kingdom it's mostly other foreign countries like south and north Korea, China, Brazil, Canada that's just a few which I've mentioned.
It's a one-way relationship: America is important to us, we are insignificant to them, except to those US owned companies that bought the rights to British oil reserves. Had the government nationalised the oil and kept the profits, our school and hospital buildings didn't need to collapse and the government would have enough money to pay NHS doctors and nurses.
The United States of America requires a capable ally patrolling the North Atlantic, notably against the encroachment of Russian nuclear submarines. We don't need a partner that could, by its own recent internal audit, run out of ammunition and supplies within one to two months, possibly as expeditiously as ten days. There is a reason why British soldiers abroad have for decades now been dubbed 'the borrowers.' They are not adequately supplied. This is the fault of the U.S. ? America would like to see a prosperous U.K., a market for more iPhones and other products. This is how cross-associative economics work(s). When one does well, we all do well. We are allied in a global endeavor to secure peace and prosperity. The United States doesn't "run" or "own' the United Kingdom of Great Britain. "Full stop." That is a British compensatory delusion becoming a contemporary vogue to explain-away all of the lackluster policies, failed initiatives and increasing impoverishment and low productivity and overall stagnation. "Blame the Yanks!" Is that the new rally-cry? The reality is that Great Britain never fully recovered from the loss of her colonial vassals and has been seeking alternate revenue streams and a revised identity since. In effect, England began a colonial project with the consumption of Scotland, Wales and, finally, the annexation of the north of Ireland (post-1922...) and expanded outwards. It was actually "empire" itself that doomed the British empire. And attaching regrets and foibles to a goat named "America" and setting it to the hills is not going to solve any of the fundamental problems. I want to see Great Britain prosper - not whine and stagnate almost out of defiance of both her European identity/trade and her enviable American military and diplomatic partnership. It is silly. And it is sad. THINK ABOUT IT: The United Kingdom stands in a wonderful spot to assume the benefits of both unfettered trade with the E.U. and unparalleled protection by and cooperation with the U.S. But you're not doing that. Your internal divisions are undermining your uniquely advantageous position. It's self-injurious. "Down with the Yanks!" For real.....? That's the four-legged beast, the goat? On "fast food" : Money follows markets, and vice-verse. You don't want KFC/McD's/ Taco Bell and so on . . . ? Don't. Consume. It. The same stands for the U.S. marketplace. That, alone, is a micro-example of the larger macro-issue. Blame OUT, rather than looking IN.
It´s not just Britain who is in thrall to the US. Other European countries have their own special relationship with the US just as US businesses dominate in other European countries - MacDonalds has been the larges restaurateur in France for many years, for example.
McDonald's succeeding in France is very much a non-event in this discussion. We're talking more important matters here, like ownership of strategic, nationally critical companies and infrastructure. France allows almost none of that and retains control over these, while the UK is willing to bend over for anybody.
The US takes very little from Britain and doesn’t need to. That is an intriguing idea England joining the US, that could be a massive benefit for England
Are you guys serious. So after Brexit you want to isolate yourself further from the one remaining big world player ally you have left? Go ahead and see how that turns out, because Brexit was a huge success right?!
@@elvishprincess321 America wrote Japan's constitution post ww2 to be as close to us as the Japanese would tolerate, and Japan's military all but takes marching orders from us at this point. NZ has a greater degree of autonomy, but the ANZUS treaty stops them from truly being independent. NZ also isn't nearly as large as Japan by any metric, so the USA isn't as quick to try to influence them; there isn't as much to be gained from doing so, and any benefits gained from influencing NZ could be far greater by influencing Australia, which we also do.
We’re not given a choice that’s why we’re angry. America forgets what a man and a woman is and starts pumping little girls full of steroids and boys full of puberty blockers Now it’s a hate crime to question this in the U.K. elections are meaningless in the U.K. whatever the democrats in America decide becomes our policy even when the Republicans are in office.
I’m an American, but I’m not feeling the love from Britain. 86% of Americans have a favorable view of the UK, while only 59% of the British have a favorable view of the US (and it gets even lower if a Republican holds the presidency). I hear and read a lot about the disdain and contempt that the British have for Americans. Although I dislike Trump intensely, I wouldn’t mind if the British kicked us out. No doubt we will continue to be blamed everything wrong with the world, but at least 1) more American capital would stay in the US; 2) we wouldn’t have to subsidize the security of Europe; 3) our men and women wouldn’t be harm’s way to protect the supply chains between Europe and Asia; 4) we would have access to wonderful new technologies that Europe could provide but currently chooses not to out of deference to the US; and 5) we could experience Pax Europa from Ukraine to the Middle East throughout Africa and Asia.
Je ne veux pas parler pour nos amis anglais mais je ne peux pas laisser dire que la défense de l' Europe est un cadeau. Les Européens, à part les Français, vous achètent des milliards de dollars d' armements et participent à la force du dollar à l International. Personnellement je ne comprends pas les allemands ou les polonais à ce sujet ( ou je comprends trop bien). Si les USA abandonnent l' Ukraine et votent Trump je vous parie sur la chute du dollar dans 15 ans, et vous perdrez Beaucoup plus que le coût de la défense européenne qui est, en fait, déjà rentable. La fin du dollar comme monnaie réserve mondiale sera la fin de votre capacité monstrueuse à vendre votre dette au monde entier. Ne soyez pas naïfs, ou ne nous prenez pas pour des cons, les USA n'ont jamais agi seulement par altruisme, et c'est normal.
@@renaudfilippi2599 By the way, according to the International Monetary Fund the debt to gdp ratio is 121% for the US and 112% for France. Hardly a night and difference.
Having worked for three British companies bought out by the Yanks, it's always meant asset stripping and job losses. Our political class need to grow a pair and start protecting British businesses .
Brexit devalued the pound and made a lot of companies attractive propositions for foreign companies, the best way to remedy this would be to rejoin the EU if at all possible.
@@enigmatwist6548 joining the EU would take 30 years sadly.
@@Purple_flower09 The EU is much stronger with UK in it and we haven’t diversified all that much. No idea how long the process might take but I doubt it would be anything like 30 years. In a reformed EU it could happen very quickly.
@@Purple_flower09 Well, better start now! And try to get good trading agreements while you wait.
I worked for a UK company that was taken over by a US company which in turn merged a couple of times. At one stage I had to ask what was the official name of the company.
UK has basically been a colony of the US since the end of WWII.
Same with Germany, they still have beses there, also Finland and Sweeden now...
We would be better of as a member states of the US.
@@CaDzA818that's cos of NATO and proximity to Russia
@@bjrnthebootybandit Good try, but they put them self into that position, Americans should practice their "Monroe Doctrine" more...
You mean zionist AIPAC!
UK thinks it has a special partnership with the US (cringe)
US barely thinks about the UK at all, unless they want something
Helmut Schmidt - "the special relationship is indeed so special only one side knows about it"
UK in the EU
You have a democratic say.
By voting to send MEPs to the EU Parliament & government ministers to the Council of the EU.
UK with US
You have no democratic say.
same as everywhere else expect that one country maybe
It is pathetic.
The US seem to fit is still the top dog in the world communist China and the neo Soviet Union will challenge that
This gentleman is saying exactly what I've been thinking since my late teens, im now 56.
he's also an idiot.
Yeah so truthful!
And . . . what would the British economy, culture, even p/Politics, look like (today) if it were not for the supposed dominance of the United States?
Hmmm?
(Brexit, anyone....?)
How much differently, notably in an age of increased global homogeneity, at least in Western democratic states, would the United Kingdom of Great Britain look/function
without the dreaded ethnic ooze of those Yanks and their cultural imperialism (as assessed by a Briton, any debate over anything 'imperial' feels tongue-in-cheek.)
Is the implication, or outright charge, that the United States is somehow holding-back Britain, is standing in the way of that lamp under that bushel from illuminating?
The reality is, as difficult it may be to digest, the United Kingdom of Great Britain never truly recovered from the near-devastation of the Second World War and the consequent loss
of her overseas vassals. That is the view from 30,000 feet, decade-by-decade. It is the strategist's view, in terms of national divestment. From the start, the working slate of (what would become) Great Britain was predicated upon the absorption of territory and treasure from outside the original English borders. This trend continued outward, from the North Atlantic to other continents. The United Kingdom of Great Britain evolved as a colonial project (for right or wrong.....) Without that (near-template of a) model, the overarching wealth/influence/power balance in relation to other countries, especially the United States, the whole thing, in plain parlance, just doesn't work. The United Kingdom is a nation small in both area and (relative) population that still mourns its dubiously glorious past. It sees any involvement or cooperation with other nations as something akin to intolerable interference. But then . . . where are all of the British firms, interests, entities that could supplant what the United States has done and will continue to do? Is the idea that, somehow, participation in a global association with the U.S. has prevented British firms/interests from reaching certain heights and/or perhaps had been stymied from the first BY the U.S.? Great Britain has a complicated relationship even with its immediate neighbors. They're a part of Europe. They're not a part of Europe. That almost-schizoid national psyche. So, ultimately, what is the position of this (supposed) America-uber-alles thesis? Let's blame those Yanks for our angst, internally and otherwise? Every policy prescription that fails, every time a British firm is eclipsed by a foreign (expressly American) firm, every move backwards, every dip further into increasing poverty and even dissolution, the rally-cry will ring out, *"Blame the Yanks!"*? Down with Pax Americana? Is that the level to which the U.K. has reduced itself, per this gentleman's prescription? No internal analysis, no reflection inwards, no real insights, no little looksie under the hood (or bonnet)? Really? C'mon, Britain. Be better. (And I would love to have an elaboration on the supposed pilfering of $3-billion annually of "art," or some such . . . Let us take a stroll through the British Museum, shall we, boys & girls?)
@@jamesmatthewneeland5707 “still mourns its dubiously glorious past”.…What? Kids up chimneys? Workhouses? Slaving away in mills for a pittance? Multiple families living in slums sharing one toilet? Wake up! Nobody mourns for those days..
@@anthonyferris8912 You know precisely what I mean, regardless of your straw-man distraction. The influence, all the glitz and glamour, of "empire" . . . . It is mourned in the manner of refusing to adapt to the changing landscape of the Common Market, then the European Union. This go-it-alone insistence, born of the delusion of disconnection, of not requiring the (symbiotic) support of other nations, believing itself to still be buttressed by a 'great and glorious' network of vassal states in a 'Commonwealth' able to be swayed this--a-way-&-that by the whim and wish of Westminster. Them's the good ol' dayz - delusions of grandeur and international relevance wedded to a past long since buried (or, more succinctly, cremated) or, better yet, never to have been ventured in the first place. You are smart enough to understand to what I was referring.
most companies in the UK are now owned by American conglomerates which is bad news for workers rights.
And quite a few UK utilities are owned by French state enterprises.
Including all military bases in the UK have a big contingent of yankyness
USA adopt the capitalistic approach to dominate UK businesses and then abuse the British in all aspects politically and financially.
@@notgettingdata Countries with the highest number of stationed US troops - Japan (53,246), Germany (35,188), South Korea (24,159), Italy (12,405), UK (9,949)…Seems Japan, Germany,South Korea and Italy get way more abuse. 😅🤣😂
A prime example is our card payment system, Visa, MasterCard, Apple and Google pay are all operated by US based companies, we're literally losing control of our own money to America..
UK in the EU
You have a democratic say.
By voting to send MEPs to the EU Parliament & government ministers to the Council of the EU.
UK with US
You have no democratic say.
@@AB-zl4nhthe UK had no say in the EU. We were laughed at, talked down to and ignored
@@Jaytwisty23you just described exactly how the Brits were behaving while in Eu 😂 you got it upside down 🙃😂
But the 1% are making billions which includes Tories so nothing will change.
@@Jaytwisty23 That's nonsense and most EU countries said so, they valued our input. Now, having left the EU, we are most definitely laughed at and talked down to and ignored! And of course our economy has taken a hit. Brexit was, and is, a self-defeating disaster and not one person can list all of the 'benefits' that we've 'acquired' from leaving. No major trade deals signed, not with the US or India, neither of which are on the horizon, and not being part of a massive trading block of 400 million people who literally have zero clout and leverage! And all so that some people can moronically chant 'we've taken back control'. If it was so pathetic it would be laughable.
I feel so "re-assured" by our Atlanticist Conservative MPs (with Labour not that different, remember Blair's shoulder-to-shoulder with our special relationship into Iraq) that Britain is bound to be looked after by our "special" ally, the United States.
We will be asset stripped but U.S. Blair could not stand up to G Bush. So in we went into an illegal war. No different now. NHS and health insurance damage for all of us.
Ridiculous notion.
The US only ever looks after itself.
Ah the Iraq illegal war, I remember that
The only thing "special" about the Special Relationship is its extraordinary one-sidedness. BTW the 51st state of the USA is Israel, not the UK, but it helps explain why we support Israel, i.e. because America does, and does so for at least partly strategic reasons.
Reminder the Yanks 80 yrs ago and bow
USA has run British politics/ business since the end of WW2 to the detriment of our economy. What has taken so long for anyone to realise.
My parents recognised it early on - I grew up hearing about this. As soon as Labour signed up to neoliberalism, my father said that's it. We have the American system now.
people realised but it was obviously too convenient for the elites
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 I mean, it was Thatcher who signed up to neoliberalism. That was very much her thing. But yes, Labour carried it on.
We need to get our country back for real!
Nope. 80 years of socialism has destroyed Britain’s economy. That’s why the debt is sky high and getting worse.
ARM is now quoted on the NYSE, after the Tories allowed it to be bought by Softbank. Can you imagine the US permitting the sale of Intel,AMD or Microsoft to foreigners?
It’s a disgrace. We are led not by donkeys but by morons.
UK in the EU
You have a democratic say.
By voting to send MEPs to the EU Parliament & government ministers to the Council of the EU.
UK with US
You have no democratic say.
@@AB-zl4nh what are you spamming about?No one cared about them in the eu. Eu parliament is a joke,the commision runs things and is appointed by the germans who are in turn a vassal state of the US.
The EU have been dictating our laws for decades and they are still at it via the ECHR toward non member and member states. We have never had democracy, just an illusion of it. If our elected leaders would do their job and act in the interests of the electorate rather than for personal gain, it might be a start.
Neither are democratic relationships
The "special relationship" has always been one way with sycophants like Thatcher and Blair.
Lived in the US for 15 years never heard the phrase special relationship once.
@@123bwlch It's only used when one sides wants something from the other.
It was an invention of the English upper class in the post war, post empire period. An attempt to rationalise what had happened “we’re no longer number one, but were number one’s best chum”. MacMillan even had a version for those with a classics education, describing the U.K. as “Greece to America’s Rome”. However the US Secretary of State Dean Acheson may have been more accurate “Lost an Empire, but haven’t yet found a role”. Still haven’t.
@@davidpaterson2309 No need to invent a load of waffle. The term 'Special Relationship' was first by Churchill.
On the 5th March 1946 Winston Churchill delivered his speech in Fulton Missouri coining the phase “Special Relationship” for the first time.
@@anthonyferris8912 And you presumably think that Churchill was not a member of the English ruling class? And is what MacMillan and Acheson said “waffle” simply because you were unaware if it? OK. Thanks.
We live in an interdependent world, & an ever increasingly dangerous one.
Small countries, & Britain is a 'small' country, need to choose who to connect with in order to survive/thrive.
Leaving the EU was a major mistake.
When Britain 'was' a member, it was a 'big' country within the EU, now Britain is ; nowhere. :(
@@LightHearted-b8k facts my dear facts. Small fish get eaten smal fish who swim with the sharks thrive, but they have to go where the sharks go.
@@LightHearted-b8klol…ok user -vx5rz2bp4f 😂🤣🤡🤡
@@LightHearted-b8k your name is more botlike than theirs. You a bot?
For some reason the oh so clever politicians let the knuckle draggers decide. I thought we'd end up in efta. I can't believe what's happened.
User - just because someone quotes facts they are not a bot you 🤡
Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan drained the British military. UK got nothing from those two disasters. Someone needs to step up and say "Britain needs to be Britain"
The Left wouldn’t like that though
@@Jamie-uk2zh in the US the left have become the party of war
yeah and they never learn from their mistakes do they, we shouldn't be having wars in the 21st Century and let's be clear this has come about because of NATO expansion, it's not Russia that is the problem, it's the Americans, they are war obsessed and their Defense Contractors dictate foreign policy
Britain only stopped paying back American loans of WW2 in 2006 I believe. The US doesn't have friends, they have interests.(Exception being that little middle east country on the Mediterranean coast).
@@bhupendraparekh6225 I can book you a speaking gig in the US where you can explain to Americans why they should accept responsibility for European security. I'm sure they have not yet understood it.
The USA bankrupted Britain during the Second World War. We have been, as a nation, subordinate to them ever since. It’s not just the UK, all western nations are subordinate to the USA, if it’s seen by Washington as being in their strategic interest, and they pursue those interests through (mainly) their military might. Even countries such as Germany have recently suffered as a result of American intervention in their affairs (Nordstream 2) They have been fuelling the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine for at least 20 years. None of this is new information. The USA will not tolerate any nation that might damage, or threaten what they perceive to be their economic, political and strategic interests. It’s not going to change anytime soon.
What about before World War II? How was Britain able to act as a totally independent nation before World War II but not anymore what is different?
@@LindaAndrews-ly1qfhope you like this quote from 1930s
I am the man with the umbrella, when I speak seriously the nations take all the more notice.
Bro you have been huffing too much propaganda. Read a history book. Read an encyclopedia. Snap back to reality.
Yes when Trump talks about 2% NATO defence spending, what his saying is we want you to buy American arms.
That way we can then fund their arm industry, remember when Turkey bought Russia air defence system America said they wouldn't anymore sell them F15s.
They have now done so after Turkey allowed Sweden into NATO.
France has it's own fighter jets ,so does Sweden, German it's own battle tanks of course it's in the interest of countries to build their own systems, for employment and export reasons
@@TheGhostOf2020what part of what he has said is propaganda? Please explain.
When America says jump, Britain says how high😅
From the US perspective: a special relationship.
From the British perspective: an abusive relationship
The U.K. can't take a dump without the say so of the U.S.
More like the US and UK can't take a dump without the say so of China or the EUSSR.
It’s not just Americans we sell our souls to. ARM was a hugely important British technology company, developed during the thriving British home computer era in the 80s and that owns the technology Apple and Samsung base their phones (and now Apple base their Macs on) and Tesla uses. This was sold to the Japanese company Soft Bank, much to the uncontrolable joy of Philip Hammond. “This shows what confidence foreign investors have in British companies” 🙄. Yeah like develop another company like that in today’s climate.
I think it’s a mixture of the UK being so anti-business, not having the managerial talent and owners of companies having an uncontrollable urge to become rich beyond their wildest dreams.
Serif, that make great Graphic Design Software and was a British owned company, was sold last month to an Australian company. Death by 1,000,000 cuts.
True. Everything sold off for a quick buck, or a corrupt back-hander to a Tory politician, zero future investment and now of course at the back of the trade queue behind the rest of Europe because of the brexidiots. Sadly, the once Great Britain is now history.
Well it's probusiness
@@jdlc903 They say they are, but are they really ? Compared to other countries ? Employers national insurance, a tax on the number of people you employ, regardless of profit. The same with business rates. A tax based on what they think your business should be earning rather than what it does earn. You only need to look at the empty high streets in the UK and compare it to some European countries to realise, perhaps they’re not doing things right here. (They definitely aren’t). IMHO
What you don't understand is... That's all an extension of America's neoliberal empire. They have the biggest empire in history except you don't always know you belong to it. Think about it. You just talked about Japan and Korea. South Korea is The same as Britain in terms of its under America's thumb. Japan is the same way, I mean America literally built their economy. And who was the first people? They really started selling their cars too, The US. Why did they do that? Why didn't they put on tariffs? Because they needed to build that industry so that they could expand Japan's economy throughout Asia.
So you think it's not just the Americans.
It's always the Americans.
Think about the German economy and the German banks and their engagement with Britain. Now think about who rebuilt the German economy, and think about how many American bases are over there. I think about who rebuilt the East German economy after the fall of the ussr... America again both times.
*VAST AMOUNTS OF BRITISH FARM LAND* is owned by US Private Equity companies...!!!
Fake news
Are there actually "vast amounts" of British agricultural land - in a nation the size of the State of Wisconsin?
@@jamesmatthewneeland5707 - relatively speaking yes.
@@piccalillipit9211 Hmmm....
French Champagne producers have been buying English vineyards. What is your point?
Well at least Americans use British money to weigh themselves
Britian's Foreign Policy is wholly run from Washington, we do not have our own policies or positions on anything foreign.
in simple terms, our politicians are all puppets of their US based masters ...
@HedgeWalker washington is a state in the US. but you're talking about washington dc and thats not a state. its irrelevant to the original commenter
@HedgeWalker "Washington DC is not part of the U.S."
man i wish i was as high as you! maybe after work :)
Starting with the Suez Crisis in 1956
Britain is America's number one lap dog 🐕, did you just figure that out? 😂
I live in the US and this special relationship idea is just nonsense. This guy is spot on, the US in trade and economic affairs pursues it's own interests something the UK does not.
Well i agree with the first part.. but what makes you say that Britain doesn’t.
@@rickyp6815 Getting involved in foreign conflicts, importing insane numbers of people without having the infrastructure to support. On a simple level acting like a powerful rich country when the UK is not a rich country.
@@gusleonard9397 Who says we don't have the infrastructure to support our influx of immigrants?
Sad thing is if England joined the us, it would be a mid tier state in gdp (3089 billion) and one of the poorest states per captia (56k usd)
But we have the weather
No it wouldn’t. That is horseshit
USA has higher per capita because it has no universal healthcare, weak worker rights protection in law (what are unions??) and weaker welfare systems. If you're broke in the USA you're truly broke and your living standards will be beyond appalling. I'm happy to be European and not American regardless of how well you think America's economy is doing the average American certainly is not really better off financially. America is a country for the rich.
@@truthwarrior2149it would be below only California in terms of GDP. However in terms of per capita GDP he’s right and worse yet thanks partially to Brexit our per capita GDP is falling.
I have walked down Skid Row, I have been to San Francisco. The destitution and desperation, the drugs and gun crime. Whatever you think of Western Europe that genuinely does not exist. It really is not remotely like that in Rotterdam or Munich, Marseille or even Manchester. These second cities have poor deprived areas but NOTHING like that seen on the scale of the USA's unequal distribution of wealth and minimal help for those worst off. You barely believe you eyes when people talk about the USA is all about how rich it is per person. You can't even get the medicine you might need or solid paid holiday agreements unless you're an above average earner.
Not only UK, EU seems controlled by the US too. Leyen seems putting US in first priority and EU in 2nd.
And Japan, South Korea, Canada. I actually think Israel controls the US though. Do Israel is our boss.
but it is like that. And it will remain like that. Do you remember the gigantic trade agreement between China and the EU? The US, at the time the outgoing Pompeo and the incoming Blinken issued a statement in order to oppose it. And then it was dumped.
Nonsense
@@henriikkak2091 Of course the UK and EU is controlled by the U.S. You really are asleep at the wheel.
For me the defining image of the "special relationship" was that moment in 2005 or so when Blair was filmed standing behind a seated GWB, almost pleading to be sent of a diplomatic visit and Bush nonchalantly saying "nah, Condi's going", without even looking around to address him.
Does the U.S. run the U.S. ?-- there is a lot to the U.S. and we barely agree with ourselves on anything. Are US corporations part of the U.S.?
Corporations run the U.S., and the U.S. runs Britain.
2nd question answer is no
The US government serves the interests of American oligarchs, the mega-corps, the military industrial complex, the top 1%.
Agree! it seems like the Biden Administration uses big Tech to censor speech except for Elon Musk and politically prosecute anybody that disagrees with them or trespasses on property we pay for because the government doesn't have any money without American taxpayers
No
The Irony is that the Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch and headquartered at 1211 Avenue of the Americas in New York City ,USA
If this was the EU rather than the USA, there would be uproar, lead by these reporters who just laugh it off at this interview. Welcome to post Brexit Britain
It is the hidden racism of language. If the EU all spoke English the UK would still be in it. But all those pesky Europeans have their own languages! Not good for a nation of people who refuse to learn another language.
And stay out.
@@ulfosterberg9116 What?
time to rejoin
The US made us join the EU.
One of the most annoying things for me as a Brit is the way our awful American food is stuffed full of addictive sugar, and of course our US poodle UK 'government' won't do anything about that - meanwhile the NHS is collapsing under an American food obesity epidemic. That's just one example of many. So I moved to France. I now have a much better standard of living in France. It's a shame the way the UK has been asset-stripped by other countries with competent governments.
I blame the british public who time and time again voted against their self economic interests.
Politicians dont spring out of the ground nor do they appear out of thin air, people vote for them, and they are a reflection of the people.
Congratz on your brexit btw!
Greetings from a very much EU loving Belgium!
Real imitation cheese! Only merca.
And . . . what would the British economy, culture, even p/Politics, look like (today) if it were not for the supposed dominance of the United States?
Hmmm?
(Brexit, anyone....?)
How much differently, notably in an age of increased global homogeneity, at least in Western democratic states, would the United Kingdom of Great Britain look/function
without the dreaded ethnic ooze of those Yanks and their cultural imperialism (as assessed by a Briton, any debate over anything 'imperial' feels tongue-in-cheek.)
Is the implication, or outright charge, that the United States is somehow holding-back Britain, is standing in the way of that lamp under that bushel from illuminating?
The reality is, as difficult it may be to digest, the United Kingdom of Great Britain never truly recovered from the near-devastation of the Second World War and the consequent loss
of her overseas vassals. That is the view from 30,000 feet, decade-by-decade. It is the strategist's view, in terms of national divestment. From the start, the working slate of (what would become) Great Britain was predicated upon the absorption of territory and treasure from outside the original English borders. This trend continued outward, from the North Atlantic to other continents.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain evolved as a colonial project (for right or wrong.....) Without that (near-template of a) model, the overarching wealth/influence/power balance in relation
to other countries, especially the United States, the whole thing, in plain parlance, just doesn't work. The United Kingdom is a nation small in both area and (relative) population that still mourns its dubiously glorious past. It sees any involvement or cooperation with other nations as something akin to intolerable interference. But then . . . where are all of the British firms, interests, entities that could supplant what the United States has done and will continue to do? Is the idea that, somehow, participation in a global association with the U.S. has prevented British firms/interests from reaching certain heights and/or perhaps had been stymied from the first BY the U.S.? Great Britain has a complicated relationship even with its immediate neighbors. They're a part of Europe. They're not a part of Europe. That almost-schizoid national psyche. So, ultimately, what is the position of this (supposed) America-uber-alles thesis? Let's blame those Yanks for our angst, internally and otherwise. Every policy prescription that fails, every time a British firm is eclipsed by a foreign (expressly American) firm, every move backwards, every dip further into increasing poverty and even dissolution, the rally-cry will ring out, "Blame the Yanks?" Down with Pax America? Is that the level to which the U.K. has reduced itself, per this gentleman's prescription? No internal analysis, no reflection inwards, no real insights, no little looksie under the hood (or bonnet)? Really? C'mon, Britain. Be better. (And I would love to have an elaboration on the supposed pilfering of $3-billion annually of "art," or some such . . . Let us take a stroll through the British Museum shall we, boys & girls?)
@@SeArCh4DrEaMz They're too busy pointing the finger at immigrants
9:18 The British were not the first to have a corona vaccine, it was Biontech from Germany, which also started vaccinations in the UK.
Wrong terminology was used in the interview. UK was first to approve a vaccine and were involved in its development (so I believe). The United Kingdom was the first country to grant emergency use authorization for a COVID-19 vaccine. It authorized the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for use on December 2, 2020.
@@martin-hall-northern-soul Correct, emergency approval was possible for all EU members, but the UK was the only country to take advantage of the opportunity. Two months after approval, the UK then left the EU. No, the UK was not involved as it had not prioritized mRNA technology. Biontech was the only European company (alongside CureVac, also based in Germany), which successfully conducted research in it (Katalin Karikó, who researches for Biontech, also received the Nobel Prize). Biontech, then a start-up, is now a multi-billion dollar company based in Mainz.
The city has become incredibly rich, so to speak, overnight (through tax revenue from Biontech). Biontech recently expanded to Great Britain and was the first company to open an mRNA factory (research laboratories) directly in Africa. The mRNA is said to have high potential in fighting cancer.
@@nettcologne9186 I bow to your superior knowledge on this one.
@@martin-hall-northern-soul thx. At the time (pandemic) I was very concerned with the topic. If I had described it in my native language I would have described it in a more nuanced way and also the role that Pfizer plays in this, but you can imagine that a start-up needs a large company on its side to produce the product in large quantities worldwide.
@@nettcologne9186 I wish I could write as lucidly as you do in a foreign language.
WW2 was the final nail in the coffin for Britain. Our military power has completely gone. Owned not only by the USA, also Islamist, immigrants, Russians, Chinese, etc . I'm saddened to be British and a veteran. Not a society I want to live in.
You were probably a janitor in the armed services
As an American, I say thank you for your service. Britain was once a great military power, especially its navy. Your leftists (just like the ones in the USA) and the EU have sold your country down the river. I hope Brexit Makes Britain Great Again.
The problem is we have a lot of companies in the UK who have been bought by USA companies normally out of greed for the almighty dollar so a lot of the decision making has been taken out of the UK into the hands of the US ... this is what happens when a country starts to sell its soul
This is what happens to former colonialist exploiters, they get exploited themselves.
@@platosbeard4449 That does not have any logic to it. It's necessary to be the one exploiting and not the one being exploited. Don't try and cloud the issue using faux morality.
The reason the US companies own so much is because they have capital to buy the companies. You want to be a capitalist society but you want everyone else not to practice that within your own country. You are a midsized country whose citizens imagine that you are an important nation. You want the US taxpayer to think of you as some country that pulls its own weight. You thumbed your nose at the EU - for Gods sake!!! Now you are all blathering on about how poorly the US taxpayer treats you. Now you are arguing that you ought to thumb your nose at the US taxpayer. Best be careful my poor brothers. We might decide you are too much trouble to worry about. Then who is going to invite you to the dance?
I don't agree with what that guy was saying. Neither do millions of other British.
Precisely. The United States of America requires a capable ally patrolling the North Atlantic, notably against the encroachment of Russian nuclear submarines. We don't need a partner that could, by its own recent internal audit, run out of ammunition and supplies within one to two months, possibly as expeditiously as ten days. There is a reason why British soldiers abroad have for decades now been dubbed 'the borrowers.' They are not adequately supplied. This is the fault of the U.S. ? America would like to see a prosperous U.K., a market for more iPhones and other products. This is how cross-associative economics work(s). When one does well, we all do well. We are allied in a global endeavor to secure peace and prosperity. The United States doesn't "run" or "own' the United Kingdom of Great Britain. "Full stop." That is a British compensatory delusion becoming a contemporary vogue to explain-away all of the lackluster policies, failed initiatives and increasing impoverishment and low productivity and overall stagnation. "Blame the Yanks!" Is that the new rally-cry? The reality is that Great Britain never fully recovered from the loss of her colonial vassals and has been seeking alternate revenue streams and a revised identity since. In effect, England began a colonial project with the consumption of Scotland, Wales and, finally, the annexation of the north of Ireland (post-1922...) and expanded outwards. It was actually "empire" itself that doomed the British empire. And attaching regrets and foibles to a goat named "America" and setting it to the hills is not going to solve any of the fundamental problems. I want to see Great Britain prosper - not whine and stagnate almost out of defiance of both her European identity/trade and her enviable American military and diplomatic partnership. It is silly. And it is sad. THINK ABOUT IT: The United Kingdom stands in a wonderful spot to assume the benefits of both unfettered trade with the E.U. and unparalleled protection by and cooperation with the U.S. But you're not doing that. Your internal divisions are undermining your uniquely advantageous position. It's self-injurious. "Down with the Yanks!" For real.....? That's the four-legged beast, the goat? On "fast food" : Money follows markets, and vice-verse. You don't want KFC/McD's/ Taco Bell and so on . . . ? Don't. Consume. It. The same stands for the U.S. marketplace. That, alone, is a micro-example of the larger macro-issue. Blame OUT, rather than looking IN.
Its called being a island nation with a empire mentality.
That’s because our politicians want it that way.
You're voting on these politicians
@@drunkensailor112 doesn’t matter who we vote for, when they get into office, they just do what they want and ignore the voters until the next elections
If the UK was so dominated by the USA then why was Brexit allowed to happen when the White House in the USA along with USA top drawer politicians including Obama was totally opposed to Brexit?
Because the US although a sovereign superpower does not have dominion on every issue. Just because the US does not approved something does not mean we get our way. The US isn't the supreme leader of other countries dealings
The Russian's financed Brexit and the Russians also funded Trump.... Why do you think that was?
Because they were getting everything from us while we was in EU
Because of Russia who wants the EU to be weak and because of the US that doesn't want the EU to be strong.
@@Flyonthewall88You just contradicted your own position in your post. 10 out of 10 in the mental gymnastics.
I don't blame the Americans - they're basically doing what we used to do when we were numero uno. I do however, blame the tories. After 14 years of austerity, skyrocketing tax, ridiculous cuts, no reinvestment to the economy, and no protections to stop exactly this from happening, of course our local industries are going to fall behind and get bought out.
England wants to be American
Scotland wants to be Scandinavian
Scotland is England's Canada.
@@Pkw4js Aye and England is Scotlands America
Scotland is England’s hat 🎩
Scotland better have a long talk with Sweden then....because Sweden is NOT happy right now.
@@pentegarn1Scotland should marry Norway, big budget 👍💰🏴🇳🇴😮.
Stop depending on America and take initiative in developing and protecting your own interests. I am an American and the European countries of NATO and also the EU need to stop being ao dependent on the US. Im not saying that to sound mean im just saying thwy need to toughen up,pull their own weight and invest more in their own military and infrastructure and become less dependent on other countries because it leaves Europe vulnerable when things start going downhill.
You need to stop listening to Trump and engage with the real world. Run along now, it's a school day.
As an American, I would be perfectly happy to stop paying taxes to defend a country that doesn’t want it.
Don't worry, when we have been assimilated by Russia the combined former countries of the EU and Russia will invade America and liberate your wealth permanently.
@@liamcraginyou little dum colonist, we made you .
Well the Majority of the UK have no interest in a War the USA Created back in 2012 to 2014. So Stop depending on us to Fund your Proxy War and its Puppet Army NATO.
The US Secretary of Commerce Wlbur Ross said Brexit was a God-given opportunity to rip the UK off its assets.
if you look at the luxury hotels in the uk, you will understand the most are owned by US
We need to protect British businesses. We don’t need to depend on the USA. We are a great country in our own right.
You should know that those times have long gone.
It's also fair to say America is enthralled with British culture, and it's influence and admiration is higher than any other foreign country. America is so large and diverse it may not feel like it from the other side, but don't underestimate it.
Meh, we Americans are most definately not in enthralled of the UK. Nor culturally nor otherwise. 🤣
Other than a bit of a fascination with the UK royal family I don’t see it in terms of culture. The special relationship in terms of politics was largely dependent on our influence within the EU and that fell by the wayside after Brexit. I doubt there’s any more admiration for the UK than there is for Australia or Canada.
@@gordonspears6320 There are lots of Anglophiles in the US. I’m one of them. I just get tired the way the we have become a scapegoat for all the ills of the world, and the condescending attitudes. The double standard: a British politician must say, We will cooperate with the US when it’s in our interest, but we won’t when it’s not in our interest (Teresa May). If an American president says that, he is condemned for being “transactional”. An American president who acts in America’s interest = unilateralist. A British prime minister who acts in Britain’s interest = independent. A British prime minister who acts in the Anglo American interests = poodle/lapdog. An American president who acts in the Anglo American interest really doesn’t have a name because it’s taken for granted.
When British actors, directors, cinematographers, etc. work in Hollywood, it’s part of a plot by sinister Americans to steal British talent. If they weren’t allowed to work in Hollywood, it would be an example of American isolationism and protectionism.
@@greble11 I totally agree, I get so tired of the US being blamed for everything. I believe it drives our isolationism, which is probably not good for anyone. And this whole argument is music to Putin's ears, which is never good.
@@greble11 Nicely put, at the "grassroots" level we have a great deal in common culturally but the "relationship" tends to revolve around who's in the WH and Number 10. It's clear to me the current incumbent has total disdain for the UK (especially us English) and his former boss openly despised the British, I expect you can guess why.
I'm glad you noticed Theresa May's "contribution".. she tried to emulate Maggie Thatcher but ignored the best friend we've had in the White House since Reagan. I remember that statement, I'm sure it was in response to advice in regard to our upcoming withdrawal negotiations with the EU. I think she did exactly the opposite so we ended up with a total calamity! cheers
Britain needs to get over itself. After Suez, the Americans made it clear how things were.
Privatization of public services needs to mean that the profits and proceeds stay in the UK. Why is that so hard?
Privatisation means profits and assets go where private capital wishes it goes. So the buffoons who simp for privatisation of public services have no business complaining.
Can't tell rich people where to stay
Whatever roads we walk, Whatever challenges in our paths, I hope our British cousins know good fortune.
UK in the EU
You have a democratic say.
By voting to send MEPs to the EU Parliament & government ministers to the Council of the EU.
UK with US
You have no democratic say.
You mean only the white Brits when you refer to your cousins?
Britain once ruled usa in 1700century
When the son becomes the father 😂😂😂
Dependant because of bloody brexit. FOR GODS SAKE DUMP BREXIT.
Some may say that the UK adopts "US style politics", but that really only applies to the nasty side of the right wing. The reason the US dominates in tech and some other area is because we encourage entrepreneurship more the UK, Europe or any other country. UK and Europe favors old established companies. They discourage new companies by discriminating against them. Citizens of other countries like the UK, Korea, Japan, etc. come to the US to start their companies because they can't overcome the barriers their own countries put up. If the UK wants to become more competitive and encourage startups, then change your own policies.
it's the nasty side of the US left wing, they have now become the party of war
The U.S is increasingly run by monopolies and near monopolies. We gobble up small business and competition is discouraged.
@@stevenhenry5267 What I was referring to is the financial system and laws that help startups. What you say is very true for mature industries and tech has become mature. If allowed to continue we’ll lose our edge as well as our democracy. (We’re close to that now.) For those who don’t follow this - at some point 40 or 50 years ago the DOJ decided that AntiTrust law’s purpose was to protect consumers from high prices instead of also protecting all of us and democracy from over-accumulations of power. That view continued under both Democrats and Republicans. Biden’s DOJ is starting to change that view. I hope they continue. We have only 3 national cell carriers, 1 search engine, 1 social media company, etc. That’s not good.
@@MrDubyadee1 my understanding is that bureaucracy is less in the UK relative to some EU countries. But it's hard to attract capital investment for new companies. The UK has produced some decent tech companies but the owners quickly sell out to the US.
@@Purple_flower09 In Tech they sell out quickly in the US as well. The Tech industry as we know it is "mature". High growth has moved elsewhere. Its all mammoth companies now. When Tech was young - the 1980's - Europe and the UK didn't have the financial resources available to grow a new industry. Investment tended to go to existing companies. Neither the governments nor the investor communities in Europe or Japan invested in small companies trying to grow large. The US meanwhile chases the next new thing. ARM maybe the last independent UK computer tech company or was. These days its all Apple, Microsoft, Google and Facebook. The generic hardware is all designed and manufactured in Asia.
When the US says," Squeal like a pig!" the UK says, "EEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Oh great, the British are admitting to that... just 60 years behind schedule, at the very least! Who ever thought that the military assistance and grants provided during WW2 would not come with strings attached?
In WW2 the strings didn't look so dangerous when we owned India and half of Africa.
Britain needs the US due to cutting of defence. Its the US which runs the sonar protecting the Atlantic from Russian subs. Same with protection for shipping, we no longer can defend convoys, again relying on the US.
Iraq, Afghanistan, we had to support the US, to the detriment of the uk. Our armed force's proved that they really poor compared to the US force's, we needed the US for fire support plus supplies.
Been sayin this since the Suez crisis.
And it weakens Europe at a time when Europe should be united and have its word being heared in global matters.
The rest of Europe despises and loathes the UK now. We have no other option.
UK has a lot to answer for here... Brexit has been a catastrophe for Europe too as well as the UK itself, whether Europe wants to admit it or not.
Wonder which camp Britain would be in today if it hadn’t shat on the Commonwealth in 1973?
Elaborate, what did Britain do to the commonwealth?
@@allovdem Agreed with Europe to a trade embargo on imports from all commonwealth nations.
At this point, i don't know why Britain and America can't be just one country.
What about the monarchy?
Are you really very serious about that?
Are you really very serious about that?
They effectively are 😄😄
@a.r.stellmacher8709 kinda because, they are somewhat similar.
Last in the queue Obama said, they forced out of the Suze Chanel by threatening to break the pound.
We were alone in 1940 with 300,000 German troops waiting to cross the English channel and they stood and watched.
They only came in after pearl harbour was attacked
Alone... with the rest of the commonwealth behind you.
@@iangodfrey4518 correct they came straight in god bless them
Britain is America's 51st State.
As an expat living in the US, my suggestion is to stop calling rhe relationship "special" and you wont feel so abused. The fact of the matter is Amerixans work harder than Brits or Europeans and they reap the rewards of that wherher thats higher pay, a better economy, or more political clout. They dont think its a "right" to get a handout from the Govt. They realise it's a globalised economy and they have to compete with the emerging Asian countries not shut themselves out of them. They see a business as profit making exercise not as vehicle to fund social welfare programs. And because if that they attract the capital and attract the smartest people to innovate abd build new industries. Europe does none of these things and that's why its circling the drain. We could learn a lot from them if we stopped looking down our noses ar them for 5 mins.
'The fact of the matter is Amerixans work harder than Brits or Europeans'
That is a myth.
When I look at the dire poverty in British towns, and cities, the title Great Britain, should be replaced with Britain 🇬🇧.
Poor Britain rather ...
USA destroyed British Empire to take its place on the planet after WW2 😅
This does seem like sour grapes about the loss of Empire. Classic Tory anti-Americanism.
The 2 world wars that the UK was involved in destroyed their empire. The US was persuaded by the UK to join these wars. We didn't start them. Are you also lamenting the loss of empire? Do you think what the UK did in its colonies was benign? The famine in India in the 1940's was O.K.? The famine in Ireland in the 1840's and 50's where Britain watched the Irish starve was a good thing? The UK is not America's victim. It's the victim of its own history.
@@liamcraginpeople like you are the reason many people in the uk and Europe think the good guys lost that war
@@400VAL-p3v What?! That's nonsense. The rise of the Nazi's was mostly an internal post-war reaction exacerbated by some of the harsh terms of the Versailles treaty - which the US objected to.
@@400VAL-p3v Churchill was told about the famine and had the power to stop it. He chose not to. The UK Viceroy who ran the show was British. The local ethnics had very little power.
I remember working for a company bought by a US private equity company, very quickly assets, staff benefits, and wages were stripped away. If it continues we're all gonna be on 0hrs contract working 3 Jobs with no holidays. Lots of care homes are now owned by Private Equity companies.
Keep in mind that "American" corporations are in fact international corporations, owned by stockholders all over world, including British stockholders. Those profits, distributed to the shareholders, are not all going to the US. I would argue that we need to go in the other direction and tie the US, Canadian, Australian and UK economies together even tighter. IMO, it should be as easy for citizens to move around the USCANAUSUK countries as the Europeans can in Europe. Despite some criticisms (some justified) about US culture infiltrating the other USCANAUSUK countries, it is not a one-way street and IMO, a tighter integration economically would benefit all of us in that yet to be formed group. I am not talking about political integration, just economic integration.
lol the vast majority of shareholders are American.
So long as the USA maintains a majority share they're profiting at the other countries expense unless those profits are invested further into new infrastructure and new businesses.
Most American investment in other countries isn't investment for the other countries its just a buyout from their perspective. The British government pretends its investment for itself but its only investment for others not Britain itself.
@@theant9821 I guess I am not understanding the situation there. My state competes with other states for new auto plants from foreign countries because although the profits go back to the country that owns the plant, it creates jobs that benefit the workers, the community and the state. If this is not happening in the UK, then you (the British citizens and leaders) need to figure out why it is not happening and make the changes needed to make it happen. Mexico doesn't own the manufacturing plants that make Hondas, Fords, etc. but they benefit from the jobs and taxes generated by these plants.
I would even support an outright political union... A new commonwealth.
The past few hundred years saw British, and by extension, Anglo culture, dominate the world. Together, we are stronger. If both the UK and US were allowed to wither into oblivion, the world would be utterly alien compared to what we have been accustomed to.
as long as the US is taken away the right of printing dollars ...
Johnson was born in the US so we have already had an American Prime Minister.
He’s a New Yorker pretending to be British 😜
People just dont want to hear the truth
It’s the other way around,people just don’t know about it. The corporation of America is owned by Britain. Nothings changed in history.
Whatever you're smoking, I could use it
Not convinced why ‘Britain in particular’ would be adversely affected by a Trump win…When the current geriatric in the White House keeps warning us he’s Irish.
You are right it would effect the entire planet. Existentially when you consider Trumps position on climate change. BTW trump is only 2.5 years younger than Biden - so both technically geriatric.
@@bingofingers Who said the US was ‘No Country for Old Men’?
Biden doesn't give a toss about the "special relationship"... like pretty much any US President, then. He just admits it more openly than his predecessors.
😂 I'm honestly surprised if he knows he's president on most days.
As a Muslim,
My vote is for Trump,...Because Biden wants WW3.
Are you alright?
@@muhammaduddin9268 Why Mr Mohammed?
Why must britain be in one camp or the other, either in the EU or Americas 51st state? We can survive on our own if we had a strong government with backbone who invested in Britain by removing excessive bureaucracy that holds british entrepreneurship back in the U.K. and investment instead of allowing foreign firms in America or the EU or elsewhere to take over what’s ours, including our talent and manufacturers and tech start ups like Arm and Deep mind… This has always been a problem in the U.K. since Margaret Thatchers privatisation of U.K. manufacturing by encouraging far too much foreign investment in the U.K. at the detriment to British entrepreneurs investing in Britain. Other countries have more sense, they don’t allow this madness to happen by destroying their competitiveness. For instance Australia needs nuclear submarines. Whilst they agree to potentially buy British made nuclear submarines, the Aussies unlike the Brits think longterm and specify they want BAE Systems to manufacture British submarines in Australia by investing in manufacturing facilities in Australia that helps build up their submarine manufacturing in Australia, including building up their nuclear industry from scratch instead of Australia relying on Britain for its subs. Whereas us in Britain sell everything off to foreign countries with no regard for the longterm consequences of our actions when those bad decisions weaken our country in the longterm on the world stage. This needs to Stop! Rishi Sunuk. Give the contract to Rolls Royce, a British firm to build Britains SMR’s and not a foreign firm like Hitachi etc. we all know a foreign contractor will win the tender in the end because Britain is still tied to EU rules and regulations.
The people that run America also run Britain, and I am not talking about the USA Government.
As an American I’m confused as to what the problem is. If you want to be more self reliant, go for it. I’m pretty sure im not going on out on a limb when I say the US won’t stand in the way of the UK being more euro-centric or Atlantic/global centric.
Brexit made it harder for the US to connect with Europe as our relationship with the UK and its status in the EU prior to Brexit made the UK the perfect choice to base economic, political, and defense ties to the European continent. But also an outward facing UK would be a great partner for the US, as currently has played out in the pacific.
So, it’s really up to the UK what path it wishes to take, since the US sees them as an important and integral partner whichever way you slice it. In fact having stronger more capable partners helps the US’s geopolitical stance as a teammate rather than an overlord, would greatly diminish skepticism of the current rules based world order.
Precisely. The United States of America requires a capable ally patrolling the North Atlantic, notably against the encroachment of Russian nuclear submarines. We don't need a partner that could, by its own recent internal audit, run out of ammunition and supplies within one to two months, possibly as expeditiously as ten days. There is a reason why British soldiers abroad have for decades now been dubbed 'the borrowers.' They are not adequately supplied. This is the fault of the U.S. ? America would like to see a prosperous U.K., a market for more iPhones and other products. This is how cross-associative economics work(s). When one does well, we all do well. We are allied in a global endeavor to secure peace and prosperity. The United States doesn't "run" or "own' the United Kingdom of Great Britain. "Full stop." That is a British compensatory delusion becoming a contemporary vogue to explain-away all of the lackluster policies, failed initiatives and increasing impoverishment and low productivity and overall stagnation. "Blame the Yanks!" Is that the new rally-cry? The reality is that Great Britain never fully recovered from the loss of her colonial vassals and has been seeking alternate revenue streams and a revised identity since. In effect, England began a colonial project with the consumption of Scotland, Wales and, finally, the annexation of the north of Ireland (post-1922...) and expanded outwards. It was actually "empire" itself that doomed the British empire. And attaching regrets and foibles to a goat named "America" and setting it to the hills is not going to solve any of the fundamental problems. I want to see Great Britain prosper - not whine and stagnate almost out of defiance of both her European identity/trade and her enviable American military and diplomatic partnership. It is silly. And it is sad. THINK ABOUT IT: The United Kingdom stands in a wonderful spot to assume the benefits of both unfettered trade with the E.U. and unparalleled protection by and cooperation with the U.S. But you're not doing that. Your internal divisions are undermining your uniquely advantageous position. It's self-injurious. "Down with the Yanks!" For real.....? That's the four-legged beast, the goat? On "fast food" : Money follows markets, and vice-verse. You don't want KFC/McD's/ Taco Bell and so on . . . ? Don't. Consume. It. The same stands for the U.S. marketplace. That, alone, is a micro-example of the larger macro-issue. Blame OUT, rather than looking IN.
My friend I wish it was so; if you try to take an independent stance they bully you! A case in point Huawei 5G equipment, the UK securities after careful examination of Huawei wanted to adopt their 5G. The US was not happy (because of her Trade War with China) forced the UK to toe the line.
The problem is the relationship is abusive as he put it. Look at the extradition treaty between our two countries, for instance.
The UK requires prima facie evidence to extradite US citizens to face trial in the UK. The US, however, does not. The bar is a lot lower when the US wants to extradite one of us.
Also, look at the case of Harry Dunn. A British boy killed in a car crash caused by a US diplomat's wife because she drove on the wrong side of the road. The US has refused to hand her over EVEN THOUGH she committed the crime on UK soil.
Exactly
The pro-BREXIT campaign was heavily influenced and financed by American right-wing groups, in particular the Heritage Foundation (ATLAS Network).
Our aircraft carriers can only use US F35s due to the lack of catapult launchers. Our nuclear missiles are leased from the USA. We are a colony.
Saw an interesting study that showed that there was actually more innovation and more new commercial ideas emerging from Uk top universities than US top universties. Only problems is that they all moved to the US when they reached a certain size. Almost like our Danish football players all dreaming of playing in the UK. :-)
Also, in the end of the program there seems to be an underlying consensus that the UK is, as opposed to the US and the EU, NOT protectionist. Well. it depends on what you mean by protectionism. Let us say that some City bankers and some UK politicians agree on a new set of rules and regulations to promote fintech in the UK. In the UK this may be regarded as innovative, but as seen from the EU it may look very protectionistic?
And... the statement that the UK was first to develop a Covid vaccine is certainly also up for debate. Depends on what you mean by "develop". Do you mean test according to this or that set of standards? But let us not start that discussion again. The German RNA-based vaccine was arguably the first vaccine (and approximately one third of the UK citizens were vaccinated with this German vaccine... and so were the population of Israel - the first country in the world to be fully vaccinated....) So who was fist... well.....:-)
Better the USA than Russia!!! For a second there I thought it was going to be Russia.....
a bxtch is a bxtch.. it doesn't matter who it belongs to
Britain can drink and eat food as per what America says to them they can't make their own descitions and totally depended on USA and does what USA wants and says to do so
No that's not true. The UK has opposed importing US food due to chemicals that are banned in EU
@@VexOoo-x7ybut now you’re not in the EU, you can change your laws to match whatever the US wants…and they will make you want to
Silly boy
American here. I visited Britain and spent time there last year. I absolutely loved it. My spouse and I both said we would love to live there one day. The people were great and I liked your culture. I don't want us politics involved to this extent in British society. Also Britain is definitely not as poor as Mississippi. Or most of the south. That is bleak. That level of poverty is on another level.
I am 100% for Britain to join America
It will improve our over all Grammar and language skills
We will also get soccer & cricket!
and beautiful British women in our bars
Yeah, but in exchange they would have to give up NHS... no more universal health care or affordable education, plus more income disparity and tax cuts for the rich and big biz. Let the privatization of everything and the politicization of religion begin.
@@phiksit You wouldn't have to give up the NHS. You'd just have to pay for it and Medicaid/Medicare. California and Vermont have both tried to implement their own state run health care services, but stopped for this very reason. Financially it simply makes no sense. But if you were that married to the NHS you could keep it, there's no law saying states couldn't.
@@phiksit So we should, the NHS has now been so abused it is almost destroyed anyway.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@quentenburnett7296we don’t want to be exploited financially for getting ill. Of course we’re married to the NHS!
The real question is who is running the USA.
The UK is now soooo detached from the rest of Europe, today French guards guarding Buckingham Palace and British guards guarding The Élysée Palais. 🤣😂😆
I thought Ireland 🇮🇪 was or rather is already the 51rst ''state'' of the USA
Of course, you'd all be better off, _if_ you had started equivalent corporations, or outcompeted American corporations, but you didn't. And it's magical thinking to believe that history would have unfolded with very similar businesses in Britain, had America not been there to build them, and shared her R&D and Defense umbrella with Britain after WWII.
American here - wanting only the best for British people.
Whatever the prognosis, Britain has many friends in America.
Keep calm and carry on - as always.
Nicely put Josh... some may disagree but I think Britain's best friend in America had a Scottish mother.
Why aren’t you passing the Ukraine bill then? For UK, Ukraine is kind of on the doorstep, before UK has to directly fight Putin.
@blauewaffel1469 It also stands with Palestine but Joe doesn't. Neither Trump or Biden does. Israel knows it and will exploit it.
Bruh, the British invaded our capital and razed it. There's a reason why Americans can't visit the true original White House today.
Don't lie to yourself and think the British don't look down on you. There's a reason why they tarred and feathered Meghan then chased her out of Buckingham after stirring up drama about her in the press.
@blauewaffel1469 Trump for sure
That is the saddest thing I have ever heard. I never thought it was that serious.
How is a Trump term concerning? Wasn’t the Middle East a lot more peaceful (relative to before and after)? Wasn’t he the only US President in modern history who hasn’t dragged you into larger conflicts? Isn’t he the only US president in decades who dared walk up to the NK DMZ personally, to express peace through power and ask them to stop the saber-rattling? What was actually concerning, compared to now?
He loves dictators.
People are manipulated to have trump derangement syndrome due to the twisted media and the cesspit that is social media 🤢
0:56 UK Vassal State. UK politicians are almost redundant. Pick those parties who shun American corporate control.
Q.Should we become 51st state of USA?
A. Noooooooooooooo!
Don’t worry. We’ve got enough problems. We don’t need to adopt yours too.
I thought Britain was a part of Pakistan
Why, oh why, would the US want to take on Britain's problems? What does Britain offer in this potential deal?
Under no circumstances whatsoever!! 🇬🇧
@@gordonspears6320America has enough problems of its own
UK just stay united kingdom always!
The whole truth of the matter is we've never had a special relationship with the United States America, we've always had a relationship and that is far as it goes. Most American daily news papers hardly have any news focused on the United Kingdom it's mostly other foreign countries like south and north Korea, China, Brazil, Canada that's just a few which I've mentioned.
Most mercans couldn't find us on a map.
It's a one-way relationship: America is important to us, we are insignificant to them, except to those US owned companies that bought the rights to British oil reserves. Had the government nationalised the oil and kept the profits, our school and hospital buildings didn't need to collapse and the government would have enough money to pay NHS doctors and nurses.
The United States of America requires a capable ally patrolling the North Atlantic, notably against the encroachment of Russian nuclear submarines. We don't need a partner that could, by its own recent internal audit, run out of ammunition and supplies within one to two months, possibly as expeditiously as ten days. There is a reason why British soldiers abroad have for decades now been dubbed 'the borrowers.' They are not adequately supplied. This is the fault of the U.S. ? America would like to see a prosperous U.K., a market for more iPhones and other products. This is how cross-associative economics work(s). When one does well, we all do well. We are allied in a global endeavor to secure peace and prosperity. The United States doesn't "run" or "own' the United Kingdom of Great Britain. "Full stop." That is a British compensatory delusion becoming a contemporary vogue to explain-away all of the lackluster policies, failed initiatives and increasing impoverishment and low productivity and overall stagnation. "Blame the Yanks!" Is that the new rally-cry? The reality is that Great Britain never fully recovered from the loss of her colonial vassals and has been seeking alternate revenue streams and a revised identity since. In effect, England began a colonial project with the consumption of Scotland, Wales and, finally, the annexation of the north of Ireland (post-1922...) and expanded outwards. It was actually "empire" itself that doomed the British empire. And attaching regrets and foibles to a goat named "America" and setting it to the hills is not going to solve any of the fundamental problems. I want to see Great Britain prosper - not whine and stagnate almost out of defiance of both her European identity/trade and her enviable American military and diplomatic partnership. It is silly. And it is sad. THINK ABOUT IT: The United Kingdom stands in a wonderful spot to assume the benefits of both unfettered trade with the E.U. and unparalleled protection by and cooperation with the U.S. But you're not doing that. Your internal divisions are undermining your uniquely advantageous position. It's self-injurious. "Down with the Yanks!" For real.....? That's the four-legged beast, the goat? On "fast food" : Money follows markets, and vice-verse. You don't want KFC/McD's/ Taco Bell and so on . . . ? Don't. Consume. It. The same stands for the U.S. marketplace. That, alone, is a micro-example of the larger macro-issue. Blame OUT, rather than looking IN.
When your colony colonizes you.
Rule taker nation now.
And they left the EU...to be independent...after all is the Americans have their foot on british people necks..
It´s not just Britain who is in thrall to the US. Other European countries have their own special relationship with the US just as US businesses dominate in other European countries - MacDonalds has been the larges restaurateur in France for many years, for example.
McDonald's succeeding in France is very much a non-event in this discussion. We're talking more important matters here, like ownership of strategic, nationally critical companies and infrastructure. France allows almost none of that and retains control over these, while the UK is willing to bend over for anybody.
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia the point is that the US fast food outlet has had a powerful (some say destructive) influence on French food culture.
Never used Macdonald, never used Amazon or Apple, have weaned myself of facebook ... now working on google ;)
Eire is also owned by
0:36 That's a monumentally ridiculous question. The USA wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in making Britain anything even resembling a state.
The US takes very little from Britain and doesn’t need to. That is an intriguing idea England joining the US, that could be a massive benefit for England
About as appealing as a cup of cold sick!
@@pwood6532 At your current rate of decline, it is what many of you will be having for supper.
Kinda dumb though. Even if we all agreed, we're 4,000 miles of water apart lol
He is very right. NHS patient medical records is designed and owned by US.
Are you guys serious. So after Brexit you want to isolate yourself further from the one remaining big world player ally you have left? Go ahead and see how that turns out, because Brexit was a huge success right?!
according to you New Zealand & Japan are both isolated because they dont allow another country to make their laws.
@@elvishprincess321 America wrote Japan's constitution post ww2 to be as close to us as the Japanese would tolerate, and Japan's military all but takes marching orders from us at this point. NZ has a greater degree of autonomy, but the ANZUS treaty stops them from truly being independent. NZ also isn't nearly as large as Japan by any metric, so the USA isn't as quick to try to influence them; there isn't as much to be gained from doing so, and any benefits gained from influencing NZ could be far greater by influencing Australia, which we also do.
You’re an old empire in decline. Why would anyone board the titanic after it hit the iceberg.
If the uk became a state it would be the poorest state in the union
Ive noticed in various comment sections how the English copy everything we do while being very angry about it.
You’ll find that those copying all the bad things are not the same ones being angry about it.
What do we copy?
We’re not given a choice that’s why we’re angry.
America forgets what a man and a woman is and starts pumping little girls full of steroids and boys full of puberty blockers
Now it’s a hate crime to question this in the U.K.
elections are meaningless in the U.K. whatever the democrats in America decide becomes our policy even when the Republicans are in office.
I’m an American, but I’m not feeling the love from Britain. 86% of Americans have a favorable view of the UK, while only 59% of the British have a favorable view of the US (and it gets even lower if a Republican holds the presidency). I hear and read a lot about the disdain and contempt that the British have for Americans.
Although I dislike Trump intensely, I wouldn’t mind if the British kicked us out. No doubt we will continue to be blamed everything wrong with the world, but at least 1) more American capital would stay in the US; 2) we wouldn’t have to subsidize the security of Europe; 3) our men and women wouldn’t be harm’s way to protect the supply chains between Europe and Asia; 4) we would have access to wonderful new technologies that Europe could provide but currently chooses not to out of deference to the US; and 5) we could experience Pax Europa from Ukraine to the Middle East throughout Africa and Asia.
Je ne veux pas parler pour nos amis anglais mais je ne peux pas laisser dire que la défense de l' Europe est un cadeau.
Les Européens, à part les Français, vous achètent des milliards de dollars d' armements et participent à la force du dollar à l International. Personnellement je ne comprends pas les allemands ou les polonais à ce sujet ( ou je comprends trop bien).
Si les USA abandonnent l' Ukraine et votent Trump je vous parie sur la chute du dollar dans 15 ans, et vous perdrez Beaucoup plus que le coût de la défense européenne qui est, en fait, déjà rentable. La fin du dollar comme monnaie réserve mondiale sera la fin de votre capacité monstrueuse à vendre votre dette au monde entier.
Ne soyez pas naïfs, ou ne nous prenez pas pour des cons, les USA n'ont jamais agi seulement par altruisme, et c'est normal.
@@renaudfilippi2599 By the way, according to the International Monetary Fund the debt to gdp ratio is 121% for the US and 112% for France. Hardly a night and difference.