A Historian Reacts - TITANIC by Simple History
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Something that I recently learned is that the Second Officer, Charles Lightoller, was the highest ranking surviving crew member and he later went on to participate in the evacuation at Dunkirk in WW2. He was the inspiration for the character Mr Dawson in the movie "Dunkirk" who sails his own boat across the channel to rescue soldiers.
Dont forget his service during ww1 thats also something that should not be forgotten.
He was in four shipwrecks during his lifetime. Titanic was only the second. He was in charge of a ship in the Channel during WWI when it was hit by a U Boat. It went down almost six years to the minute after Titanic, and even though he wasn't supposed to use it for personal reasons, he'd been moving his furniture at the time. He had to blow his whistle to stop from being run over in the water and the last time he used it was after Titanic sank.
Part of the reason he did well at Dunkirk was his youngest son was a pilot and told him about when fighters were committed to attack and that helped him maneuver his boat to avoid being destroyed. That son died at the beginning of WWII but helped save the men who escaped that day.
Yarnhub also made a video about Lightoller.
...and there was a nurse, who traveled on all 3 ships of the Olympic-class, surviving the sinking of 2 of them...
...Titanic of course and her sistership Britannic, which was hit by a mine in WW1...!
...the Olympic was the 'lucky one', scraped in the 1930s...!
@@Packless1 Violet Jessop
honestly its the best part when you say something that then just so happens to be said in the video.. Makes me feel confident in your knowledge.
The Titanic was actually constructed so well, that to this very day, the swimming pool still holds water.
Lol 😂 that’s a good one
Dude, come up with some originality. That joke is as old as the Titanic itself.
@@DJ118USMC well I haven’t heard that joke before so I guess it‘s all cool 😅
Exactly
In all seriousness, it was very well built, it has spent 100 years at the bottom of the ocean with tons of water pressing down on it while microbes eating it and yet it still stands.
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Since I seem to get comments on this constantly, let me address something real quick. Yes, port is left and starboard is right on a ship. However, the order given by Murdoch was indeed "hard a starboard" while reversing the engines to turn the bow to the left and avoid the iceberg. He then did indeed attempt to "port round" the iceberg which means to swing back to the right so the stern of the ship swung around it. It sounds wrong but it isn't.
From Lightoller's testimony: "the ship appears to have run on, on the same course, until, at a little before 11:40, one of the lookouts in the crows nest struck three blows on the gong, which was the accepted warning for something ahead, following this immediately afterwards by a telephone message to the bridge "Iceberg right ahead." Almost simultaneously with the three gong signal Mr. Murdoch, the officer of the watch, gave the order "Hard-a-starboard," and immediately telegraphed down to the engine room "Stop. Full speed astern." The helm was already "hard over," and the ships head had fallen off about two points to port, when she collided with an iceberg well forward on her starboard side."
Do you know why?
Titanic's wheel was set up for "Tiller" Orders. Turning the wheel to the right, turned the rudder left and vice versa!
Port is left when you look towards the bow of the ship. If you look towards the stern, port is right.
Yes as victoria above said the orders were based off Tiller commands which was an old sailing tradition up until just after this.
Think of a small sailboat today that doesn’t have a wheel but instead a “tiller” that piece the Captain holds on to connected directly to the rudder. By pushing the tiller to the right (starboard) the boat turns to the left (port). Even though ships had long ago moved onto using wheels setup so that which ever way you turned the wheel the ship would turn (turn left go left). The commands were still given in the old tiller terms.
It was done this way because captains learned it this way from other captains when they were young crew who of course learned it when they were younger ect ect dating back to when it was still correct directions to steer a ship. By the time the sailor went through the ranks it was second nature to them and a hard tradition to break as a captain.
It’s a great detail that they had in the film “hard to starboard” but the crew member turns the wheel to port and the ship turns to port.
Love it when people forget that your job is to already know the things in the video that they're talking about
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Things to note. The requirement of lifeboats for a ship of Titanic's size was 16 (She had 20). Also, the Wireless radio went out and they had spent a day and a half to get it back running and that's why there was a backlog of messages. Also, The coal fire that the Titanic had on board (They put out) actually contributed to the slow sinking. This was because to put out a coal fire it required moving coal to another coal bunker so the coal was shifted to the Starboard Side (Tiller Command) or Left Side of the ship which gave the Titanic a 3 degree list to Starboard and helped offset the water that was flooding in on the Port (Right - Tiller command) side. Initially Thomas Andrews though the Titanic had 1hr and 1hr 30min to sink because he had calculated that the Titanic would roll over (Like most ships that sink do) however, due to the weight of the coal it actually took the Titanic longer to sink. They also had many experienced crew (Guarantee Group) who job it was to make sure Titanic had a problem free Maidan voyage as possible. It really is because of this Guarantee group (Which included Thomas Andrews) that as many people survived as they did. Also, there was a woman who worked for White Star Line named Violet Jessop who survived Olympic collision with HMS Hawke, the Sinking of the Titanic and lastly the sinking of the Britanic. Yikes!
Interesting though you made at least one mistake here, the same one our historian made when he was talking about the maneuvers they attempted in order to try to skirt around the iceberg. The left side of a ship is the Port side, Starboard is the right side. Tip to help keep them straight is to just remember Left = 4 letters = Port.
@@Cursed110011 In the time of Titanic Port was Right and Starboard was Left - These were called Tiller Commands. These didn't go away until 1914 when they started using Wheel commands which are used today (Port = Left and Starboard = Right). In the James Cameron Titanic movie they say "Hard to Starboard!" Which if following Wheel commands mean Right! Which would turn it into the Iceberg. A lot of people thought it was a mistake but in fact at the time Tiller commands were used and therefore James Cameron was right.
@@DJ118USMC Port has always been Left side of the ship and Starboard always been the right side.
What you are referring to was the command to turn the ship changed. Hard to Starboard could mean 1. turn the ship's wheel starboard (which turns right) or 2. it could mean move the tiller to the starboard side and rudder goes left which causes a left turn.
@@DJ118USMC As someone else pointed out, port and starboard has never had its meanings swapped.
About Violet Jessop, she not only survived all of that, but in the Britannic disaster, she was in one of the lifeboats launched unauthorized that got chopped up by one of the propellers.
I think Murdoch’s family objected to his portrayal in Titanic- in the movie I believe he shot someone trying to board a lifeboat and then shot himself. James Cameron ended up apologizing to his family.
Just some little additions:
-The fourth funnel wasn‘t a total dummy, it was used for storage and ventilation.
-Some years ago a navy yard in the US did a study on the frontal collision theory, and they came to the conclusion that Titanic would have sunk within 30-45 minutes because of multiple cracks in the hull. It would simply have broken her back.
-The Californian most likely wouldn‘t have made it to Titanic (even if they would have recognized the distress), because the engines were shut down and low on steam. To build up enough pressure for the steam engines takes hours, there was no way to just head full ahead towards Titanic.
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No storage, just ventilations. The storage is only in a video game
"He won't react to a video about the Titanic. It's too well known"
"Ey! She's made of History, I assure you, he will!"
Oooh....i see what you did there. Nicely done.
About the lifeboats, there's another detail I feel a lot of people also tend to overlook when it comes to whether or not more people might have been saved if the ship had more of them; the time in which the Titanic sank. It took the crew an hour before they discovered / realised the damage was so severe the Titanic would sink, and they barely had enough time to lower all twenty lifeboats on the ship. The last two literally floated off of the ship's deck during her final plunge beneath the waves.
But that nearby ship, if it was the California, probably couldn't have gotten to the Titanic in time. Even if they had heard that S.O.S message, her engines were completely turned off and its boilers extinguished. It would have needed 40 minutes at least to get enough steam to start moving, then they would have to carefully move across the field of ice surrounding them lest they be another sinking ship that night.
I am glad someone else pointed out the problem with time, because you're right, even if they had extra collapsible lifeboats there was no time to set them up, like what happened with A and B. One was upside down when it floated off and the other was full of water, yet people did survive on them, so more could have. The problem is, unlike most of the life boats, is that the collapsible weren't kept in a ready state, they not only had to be moved from the roof to the launch position, they also have to be assembled and fixed properly, and it took everything to get the four collapsible they did have ready, and they still couldn't do it in time.
If there was more boats im sure Capt smith would have deployed 4 teams instead of 2 to lower boats. And with the California its 1000% true even without the ice field between them. Picking back up steam takes time and doing that and trveling the 10 miles to Titanic it would have been to late. It has come out a illegal fishing ship the Samson was the ship survivors saw in the early boats, it was close enough for them to see the boat not just the lights like the Californian. But the Samson sailed off fearing the rockets were warnings to them. But even if they stay that fishing boat wouldnt have been able to save many more of the 1500 who were lost. Its sad all around and i always try to stand up for the Californian. Yes they didnt do enough but even if they did everything right itnwouldnt have been enough. Scapegoat mentality
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Quality goes a long way, Random Guy.
Why does it matter if they have a lot of viewers? He does a great job, but we all know there are lots of popular channels that aren't that good, and lots of good channels that aren't that popular.
My favorite story about the titanic is the story of John Harper. He was a Baptist preacher from Scotland aboard the titanic traveling to America to preach. When they started loading the lifeboats, his sister and his daughter were aboard and as his 6 year old daughter's only surviving parent, he was allowed to go on the lifeboat with her, but he just sent her with his sister. After that he walked around the ship preaching and at one point urged "(get) on the lifeboats, women, children, and the unsaved". When the ship sank he jumped in the water and continued preaching until he succumbed to hypothermia. The last man Harper was preaching to when he died got rescued by one of the lifeboats that hadn't been completely filled and at a reunion of titanic survivors years later spoke about John Harper and said "As far as I know, I am the last known convert of John Harper.".
That’s a very unfortunate story, but what a fantastic man.
Honestly I love the fact that I'm able to get my sources backed up by a polite intelligent, and respectable historian, thank you for being so dedicated to your channel.
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When I was 4, my parents were watching the Titanic and one of the first things I said about the ship was "It's fake, a boat doesn't have 4 chimneys". It was probably because the boat of Sinterklaas (Dutch version of Santa Claus) only had 3 chimneys. When I was 14 I started reading up on the titanic and found out one of them was actually fake, I mentioned this to my parents and they told me that it was the first thing I said about the Titanic when I was four.
I won't ever forget the fake chimney of the titanic because of this.
Funnel 4 wasn't fake per say, it wasn't a proper funnel like 1-3, but it did have an actual purpose. It was used to ventilate the engine room as well as fumes from the 1st class smoking room, so it did do the job of a funnel, just not for any boilers. That is what I read anyway.
Alle stoomboten waar ik sinterklaas op heb gezien hebben maar 1 schoorsteen
This is true. Some smoke could be seen emitting from the fourth funnel, but not as much at sea as the first three, as those were connected to boiler rooms.
It was actually true
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Violet Constance Jessop (2 October 1887 - 5 May 1971) was an Argentine ocean liner stewardess, memoirist, and nurse who is known for surviving the disastrous sinkings of RMS Titanic in 1912 and her sister ship HMHS Britannic in 1916. In addition, she had been onboard RMS Olympic, the eldest of the three sister ships, when it collided with a British warship, HMS Hawke, in 1911.
The titanic movie was the very first movie in theater's that I was taken to. I was six years old, sat and watched the entire movie with my family, and still remember it.
It's been said that to have an iceberg of that size so far south in the Atlantic is extremely rare.
The Titanic has been something Ive been interested in since i was 8 or so and watching this video I learned a thing or two but is really cool to here someone else talk about what they know and what they think over a topic ive had so much interest on for a little while now. I'm really glad I found your channel.
Hey me too, I’m pretty sure that almost every 8 year old loves the titanic
I remember being 5 and watching this at the cinema when it released for the first time, I have had an obsession with it ever since.
You mentioned Halifax. It might be interesting to do a video on the Halifax explosion, which I believe was the largest man-made explosion until the nuclear bomb.
I think that the explosion in Lebanon beat Halifax
Definitely not in casualties.
@@jacobnugent8159 No it is still the "official" largest one, since there is no real consensus on the Lebanon one yet.
However roughly half of Halifax was either blown to pieces or fell over in the shockwave.
@@YekouriGaming absolutely, then followed by one of our brutal snow storms.
Shout out to the crew at Titanic: Honor and Glory (whose minute-by-minute sinking recreation you mention).
They're a small but dedicated design team that have been creating a 1:1 scale of the Titanic as a virtual museum of sorts for several years now.
The Alpha of the project is said to be releasing this year.
Walter Lord, author of the book “A Night To Remember” commented in the documentary “Titanic, Death of a Dream”, that he believed Chief Officer Wilde was the one who more likely committed suicide, not Murdoch.
The water was so calm that night that they could have easily overfilled the life boats and remained safely afloat. Maybe not saving everyone, but more people.
More first class men survived than 3rd class children.
I think a movie about the American Senate hearings after the sinking would be awesome. Then we could hear everyone who testified in their own words what they saw happened (use original transcripts of the hearing). Don’t understand why no one has done this yet.
My favorite story about the Titanic is about Violet Jessop. She was a laundress on board the Titanic, surviving that sinking, then serving as a nurse on board the Britannic, and surviving that sinking, and was the subject of a harrowing rescue from that ship. And still served on board the Olympic when it had a collision with another ship. After the three near death experiences, Jessop decided no more ships.
The Titanic actually took on a port list as she sank, some survivors say that they saw the ship seemed to be bending as the stern rose, she broke between the 2nd and 3rd funnel, one of the ships that responded to her distress message was the Olympic. Also US President William Howard Taft lost one of his best friends Archibald Butt in the sinking. Isador Strauss was also the co-founder of Macy's.
Misconception about the fourth funnel, it wasn't a "Fake" funnel it just served a different purpose to the first 3 funnels. Funnel 4 was used as the exhaust outlet for the ships ventilation system covering the furnace rooms, the smoking rooms, the kitchens, and so on. It did serve that aesthetic purpose as you mentioned but it was far from simply being a "Dummy" or "Fake" funnel, it just wasn't used as the exhaust for the smoke and steam generated by the engines.
Edit: One functional thing the number four funnel did was replace many of the deck level vents that would've been required otherwise, both improving the looks of the decks and improving the air quality on the Titanic's decks as well by removing the smoke and other elements to a higher exhaust point away from the passengers and crew!
You are correct, it was Murdoch who is widely agreed upon to have committed suicide with a revolver. The consensus now on the fate of Captain Smith (based off of multiple credible eyewitness testimonies) is that he was on the bridge sending up flares and issuing orders until he could no longer stay aboard. He then preceded to put on a life preserver and dived overboard. Then the accounts of his final moments are of him swimming on his back, holding an infant in the air to keep it from freezing, then delivered it to a lifeboat. The boat took the infant aboard and when asked to get in, Captain Smith refused but asked the fate of Murdoch. Once those aboard the lifeboat told him that Murdoch had committed suicide he pushed himself away from the lifeboat, removed the life preserver, then sank into the ocean never to be seen again. Love the content and keep up the great work!
Queenstown in Ireland was renamed as Cobh (pron. "cove") after independence.
An interesting character onboard the Titanic was the ships Chief Baker. He is shown in the movie The Titanic. According to him, he literally rode the back of the ship into the water and was one of the few survivors to be pulled out of the water.
Whether he literally rode on the outside of the poop deck railings is kinda up in the air tbh. Like he was probably really drunk at the time. I mean no clear headed person would just go down to E deck and stare at the wall of water slowly creeping up Scotland Road just to get more drink from his room
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You probably should read up on the Empress of Ireland disaster in 1914. More passengers died in that sinking than on the Titanic despite it being somewhat smaller and fitted with enough lifeboats. The problem was that it was T-boned by a collier shortly after midnight right at the bulkhead dividing the forward and aft engine rooms causing the ship to lose lateral stability. It rolled over 14 minutes after the initial impact. Most of the passengers died in their staterooms. The accident happened on the St. Lawrence near Rimouski QC. Rescuers arrived in less than 30 minutes and we're at first optimistic when they saw all the lifeboats only gradually realizing that most of them were empty. Only a few passengers still awake playing cards and the crew preparing the ship for it's open ocean transit survived. It was briefly a huge story but several months later World War I started and it has largely been forgotten. When we can get back to Canada you should check out the museum at Point Pere near Rimouski.
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The Britannic struck a mine.
The mines that were lain were not intended for Britannic or any other hospital ships.
She sank off the coast of the Greek island of Kea in November 1916.
Ah the Titanic, the first thing I got physically pissed off about while learning history....Seriously I threw the book I was reading across the room in my 3rd grade class and got sent to the principal's office for it. When I explained that I was upset at the arrogance of calling the ship unsinkable I got a gold star! I was a big deal for like 5 minutes after that.
A word not exclusive to the Titanic. Pretty much all new ships were referred to as "unsinkable" in some way. The maritime industry was very confident in the technologies then after centuries of fearing the mights of the oceans. They simply never anticipated the insane amount of damage dealt to the Titanic which is basically tearing through steel plates almost half the lenght of the ship
I live in Ireland about 90Km from where the Titanic was built, I've been to the Titanic museum and Harland and Wolf.
Might be a long shot and perhaps a member of this amazing community has already mentioned it, but the Titanic museum they opened in Belfast 6 or 7 years ago is truly fantastic and would be well worth a visit! Being of Irish descent and having ancestors that worked in the H&W dockyards during the early 20th century, the museums prime location on the Titanic’s slipway, the plethora of unique items rescued from the Titanic wreck and the first hand documents and accounts that are in the museum lend a truly exquisite and enlightening educational experience that cannot be found anywhere else. Having followed this channel for a while and watched the array of topics covered, I must commend your knowledge and dedication to bringing education to the masses, particularly on issues and history that no doubt most of your native audience (and perhaps even in my own country) have little to no experience on or desire to learn. Please continue the good work and bringing your delightful takes and interludes to this channel and it’s followers! Whilst I often affirm your knowledge on European and World history with my own, I am keen as a Britain to gain your perspective on my own cultures’ (as a Britain and European) history, and to be further educated through your extensive knowledge of your own nations history! Good luck and keep fighting the good fight!
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After recent events I heard that survivors in boats reported hearing explosions under water after it sank ... and vast amounts of air surfacing ... being implosions caused by the water pressure on the remaining air pockets in the ship .... Meaning anyone who went down with the ship didn't survive beyond the implosions ... a quick death .. but i mean that's subjective .. Panic and fear can make a very long 3 minutes ... ( took 6 minutes to reach bottom )
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Regarding salt water being below freezing: the original definition of 0 deg F is literally a mixture of even amounts of water, salt and Ice. Since it takes way more energy to melt ice (or boil water) than it does to change the temperature of water, mixing ice, water and salt like this will cause the water to cool to 0 deg F before the ice starts to melt!
And for any curious Americans: the definition of the Celsius scale follow fresh water in 2 points: freezing (0 deg C) and boiling (100 deg C) fresh water. I actually think that's still the definition, although I believe ambient pressure has since been added to the official definition.
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I don't know if it is possible on a platform like UA-cam, but would love to see your reaction to Drunk History. Always thought that show was an interesting platform to deliver historical knowledge.
So glad I've found this video. I was also a big Titanic enthusiast growing up and one of my favorite memories from when I was younger was going to that exact same Titatnic exhibit you mentioned seeing at the Luxor. When I went to it in San Diego, I immediately knew the fate of my passenger because I got one of the most notable passengers on the ship - Ship Architect Thomas Andrews.
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@@VloggingThroughHistory the tv series was called titanic blood and steel
The Californian only had one operator so he turned it off after the titanic had told him to shut up. Also, the Californian was stuck in an ice field so they might not have been able to reach titanic.
Titanic was in the middle of same ice field, the very same one Carpathia would navigate through. Also the reason why Titanic's radio operator told the Californian's operator to shut up is that due to proximity the Californian's message were very loud and nearly blew his eardrum out, which doesn't include interrupting his messages of which they had a backlog to deal with due to their equipment breaking down along with being dead tired.
Funny thing, the radio company had the policy of not doing field repairs for their, under the belief the operators would just break the equipment even more if they tried. But Titanic's operators decided to do it anyway, their defiance of policy is what ended up saving the survivors in the boats.
I heard that the California’s crew didn’t believe it was sinking
@@calblack4156 I've heard they thought the flares and distress fireworks were just the titanic partying, and not for an emergency situation but I may be completely wrong.
@@Azyrion_ They did claim that, but part of the problem was that they were sending up white rockets, which to most says distress. There was a lot of new regulations and standards introduced across the board, and one of them was the standardization when it comes to rocket signals to make sure there is never confusion again.
My interest in Titanic also started when I was a kid, still fascinated by it now. I did visit the cemetery in Halifax when the victims recovered by the Mackay-Bennett are buried. The Maritime Museum of the Atlantic also located in Halifax has a great exhibit on the Titanic, it’s worth a visit.
As a teenager I once bought a model set of the Titanic because it also came with the book "A night to remember" by Walter Lord which I wanted to own even though I already had read it twice, borrowing it from the local library before.
I even built the actual model but my mother dropped it while I was at college and the model was still at my parents house.
A lot of the accident is also very much an example of the swiss-cheese-model.
"We're gonna dive in" as a starter for a Titanic video... I like your style man!
Titanic: Blood and Steel. Brilliant mini series, gets deep into Harland and Wolff, the shipwrights, and the politics of Belfast.
The 4th funnel had a function. Several cabins and the first class smoking lounge had large fireplaces. The smoke exhausted from number 4 funnel. It also exhausted the smoke/fumes from the kitchens. And yes, the violin was recovered from Hartly’s body. It eventually made it back to his fiancé who placed it in her attic and it was forgotten for many decades.
Some more details about the titanic. If I remember correctly there's no evidence that white star line ever claimed themselves that the titanic couldn't sink, but I think Smith said it was very unlikely. The unsinkable reputation might have come from the Olympic who have been in service for a while now and survive many considerable damages. There were more lifeboat on the titanic than required by law at the time. It was also believe that sinking would happen near a coast so other ships would arrive quickly and before titanic that was usually the case.
Witnesses claim that Ismay helped the crew board the lifeboats before getting in when he saw that there was no one around. The story of Ismay being a coward most likely come from newspapers own by rivals of the white star line.
The california issued warning to every ships around of the iceberg field. The captain Lord deemed the field too dangerous to naviguate at night to he ordered to shut down the engine qnd relieve is wireless officier for the night. Whether he decided not to act because of a "told you so" moment, because he was over cautious or because he was truly unaware of the situation is still debated. Although the morning after the california did looked for survivor but it was too late.
I remember a doctor saying that in water that cold you're most likely to die from an heart attack than hypothermia.
The engineer and firemen work tirelessly to keep the engine running and provide power to the titanic to the very end as a result none of them survives. It kept the wireless room operational and the operator kept transmitting distess signal to the very end too . Jack Phillips died but Harold Bride survived.
The water was so calm the night of the sinking it was like a mirror and it was hard to tell where the sea line were. We know now that it is a sign of an iceberg field but it was unkown at the time.
I highly recommend watching the documentary, “Titanic’s Final Mystery”. It has a some interesting scientific theories on causes leading up to the sinking. Some of the clues mentioned at the British inquiry gets another look.
Titanic is also one of my first historical based passions.
Interesting fact of the sinking is that although proclaimed quite quickly that the ship would actually sink, at one point during the sinking it seemed like it would not sink at all. In an book my grandparents have about the Titanic, it was stated that although previous simulations and expectations of the ammount of compartments that could be filled with water before the ship would actually sink, it seemed it could handle 1 more. But the damage done by an earlier fire in one of the boiler rooms, as well as the fact that some bolts were manually attached during the building of the ship, and some minor damage during the collision, meant that the "almost being miracle" felt apart because an 6th compartment now could fill with water. Leading to the inevitable.
I think you’re telling of historical events is so fascinating and easy to understand
Fun fact: if like the video said at 2:13 is true, then the titanic began construction exactly 100 years before I was born. Not important, just thought I’d share 😊. Great video btw
Titanic and Gettysburg Battlefield made me obsessed with history as a kid. We have a very similar experience with our coming up with history.
The eerie thing about the sinking of the Titanic was that in 1898, a book called Futility was published, a fictional story about a large 'unsinkable' ship called the Titan which crashes into an iceberg in the North Atlantic Ocean, and there weren't enough lifeboats so few survive. This was written before the Titanic was even an idea.
The author was an expert on shipbuilding and maritime trends, and it wasn't as though the Titanic was the first ship to be sunk, or considered unsinkable. He wasn't a special oracle or anything, he simply knew the laws and actions that humans make (such as having enough lifeboats wasn't a requirement at the time) and in certain circumstances, it would lead to disaster.
Yeah we (Halifax) used the curling rink as a morgue cause they had to do something to keep the bodies cold. The Museum of the Atlantic has actual deck chairs they pulled from the reck.
My favorite part of the story of Titanic is Carpathia's exceptional performance. She was designed with a service speed of 14 knots, and a "max speed" for trials of 15.5kt. Any steam engine can theoretically break its limits but its an exceptional demand on the machinery.
That night, by Captain Rostrum"s orders to basically do what you see captains say in fiction and "divert all power to engines" (steam in this case, all functions other than propulsion were shut down and extra stokers were put on to heat up the engines as much as possible), she broke 17kt, probably closer to or over 17.5. Even compared to her trial max speed, that's more than 10% over the "limit". For a steam ship, that's a massive amount of overspeeding.
This was a massive risk to the ship's and crew's (and passengers') safety, as the pressure obviously is a danger - but obviously, what was a POTENTIAL steam explosion or POSSIBLE loss of an engine compared to the very real and ongoing shipwrecking of Titanic's passengers?
Regardless of the fact that it was just maybe hurting their engines and slowing down their own passage (I don't doubt they would've paused in their efforts had they blown a plant), so it wasn't quite taking a bullet for someone or something immediately life imperiling, it is still so inspiring to think of this ship and its crew turning its every effort, literally giving 110% (or more), to saving the Titanic's passengers. These are the good parts of humanity that remind me people can be driven to do great things for their fellow man.
A note or two about Titanic's 4th funnel: while it didn't act as an exhaust pipe like the other funnels, it did serve a few functions. It housed a ladder all the way from down in the engine room so engineers could climb up and check the color of the smoke from the forward funnels to see if they were running rich or lean, there are a few photos where you can see a man's head peeking over the top. It also provided ventilation to the engine and turbine rooms, and it was the chimney for Titanic's only wood-burning fireplace in the 1st class smoking lounge. There was storage space inside for deck furniture, and finally, it was plumbed into the boilers so it could vent steam in the event of an emergency; if the ship needed to stop suddenly as she did on April 14 1912, there would be a build-up of high pressure steam that needed to be released so the boilers wouldn't rupture, so all 4 funnels were plumbed into that system.
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A few facts about the Olympic class ships.
Britannic was still being built around 1912, when Titanic sunk. So A LOT of changes were made following the sinking of Titanic. As for Britannic’s sinking, she had hit a mine near the Greek Island of Kea.
Olympic was the oldest and was the lone survivor of the Olympic-class ships. She even sunk a sub during WW1. She was sadly scrapped due to old age and the Great Depression.
The story of White Star Line’s vision for the Olympic-class, has always fascinated me. Especially considering who their rivals were at the time, Cunard. Heck the whole history of ocean liners fascinate me. Crazy to think how much history can be tied to one ship or multiple ships.
I love your videos, I have a small suggestion. The volume of the videos you're reacting to is quite a bit lower volume than your voice. Keep up the good work and content. Cheers!
Common issue, makes it hard to listen to with earphones :(
For the few survivors, there was more chaos to follow. There were several mix ups on where they would disembark, several cities were named and families scrambled to different towns to try and find their loved ones.
I grew up with Titanic was my first historical interest too. Still fascinates me to this day.
Theres also a Mansion (Lyewood Hall Mansion) that was owned by Peter Widener whose son was on the titanic when it sank (and the mansion is supposedly haunted), its abandoned to this day. (its really beautiful but also heartbreaking to see such a historic mansion lay to waste) theres some videos of people exploring it, but I think there's fences and cameras there because they don't want trespassers (or something
Radioman Harold Bride, in the most detailed account given to the New York Times when the survivors arrived in New York, definitively identified the last song as "Autumn." Since other survivors said the band playing ragtime and dance music throughout, Bride probably meant "Songe d'Automne," a popular dance-hall waltz in 1912.
James Cameron is actually REALLY into the titanic history and researching the construction as well as figuring out to the best of his ability the specifics about how it went down. He did a whole documentary of it. If you haven't seen it, it's definitely worth watching.
One thing of interest from the documentary, not related to the sinking of the titanic, is the accuracy of the sets from the movie. Most of the ship had detailed plans to follow. But the main room where the female character (I believe her name was rose. Im not 100% sure.) slept did not have those plans. So, they based it off other rooms on the ship and just sort of hoped it would be right. They actually sent an unmanned drone with a camera into that room. Mr. Cameron went absolutely nuts over the clock on the mantle. It was practically identical in so many ways. The clock and the woodwork on the mantle. It was pretty amazing.
Almost forgot. The titanic was at the time the biggest liner ever built. But it wasn't so much bigger than the competition to be obviously bigger at a glance. So they out the 4th stack on it just to appear that much bigger than their competitors. Because bigger is obviously better right? Anyway, you seemed slightly unsure about the reasoning. But thats all it was. An expensive game of "whose got the bigger dick?"...
Queenstown is now called Cobh in County Cork
I also did that, I think i still have the card and I’m pretty sure my character survived, I also touched a piece of the Titanic that was brought up which was pretty cool.
On my year in the US I learned in the american conspiracies classes about the similarities between this and "Futility, or the Wreck of the Titan" which was published some time before the Titanic tragedy and is an incredible premonition in many ways.
another strange thing about the sinking is that it stayed vertical the whole time, it didn't tip over at all. both the britannic and olympic tipped on their sides i believe, as do most ships. because it sank like that it gave more time for people to get up and out and into the lifeboats, otherwise even more lives would have been lost.
The Titanic had its fourth funnel for, yes , looks, but the funnel was to ventilate the lower decks especially the engine room. And no the ship would have not survived the iceberg.
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In addition to what was mentioned, a few more reasons why the Titanic didn't have enough lifeboats included money. The construction of Titanic cut a lot of corners and it was decided that too many lifeboats would clutter up the view for First Class Passengers. Ship safety regulations were more than 20 years old and only accounted for vessels weighing in at 10,000 tons, while Titanic was quadruple that weight.
What was even more tragic that the lifeboats that they did have, weren't even fully loaded when they were launched, so even more people could have been saved during that disaster. Later on, there was some documentation found that the ship's owners were urged to have 10 extra lifeboats added, but they threatened to fire the safety inspector to keep his mouth shut so that the ship could leave on time. Again, the motivation was money.
18:30 Yup, I'm so glad that you corrected that part of the video.
21:14 Correct! It hit a mine laid by a U-boat a month prior.
I consider myself an above average expert on the sinking of the Titanic and I was very impressed by this historian's general knowledge in this video. All of his facts in real time are correct. I will subscribe to his channel knowing that he is verse in many subjects.
Welcome aboard! And please, on topics where you have knowledge, share what you know. It helps us all learn together.
I’m from Southampton and there are still signs of the Titanic here today. A memorial statue constructed in the city, and the berth where she was docked is still exactly as it was in 1912. Really good content, I love your videos!
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The April 15 tax filing deadline is also the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic. Among those who died on the Titanic were several prominent critics of the then proposed income tax and Federal Reserve, including John Jacob Astor and Benjamin Guggenheim. The Titanic’s ultimate owner was John Pierpont Morgan, an architect of the Federal Reserve. Morgan was supposed to be on the Titanic but was a last minute cancellation.
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It's really cool hearing that you're visiting Hollywood Cemetary because I actually used to work there and it is just an incredible place to be at!
Just makes me happy to see how much this channel has done and grown and will continue to grow !
I love your content dude I enjoy how you always add in details and explain and breakdown everything good job dude.
Also, the title of "Largest Ship in the World" was a very shortly held title at the time. This period was during the ocean liner arms race. Although Olympic was the largest in 1911, and 1912, it very quickly lost its title to the SS Imperator in 1913, which also lost the title to the SS Vaterland in 1914. After WW1 ships kept getting bigger, but the rate at which they were built definitely slowed down.
What I learned recently was the Olympic intended to arrive and take on passengers of the disaster, however, it was feared the survivors would be afraid to step foot on a similar ship so she was turned away. Respect needs to be given to the Carpathia for her role, and her tragic end when she was torpedoed in I believe late 1917.
Also, has anyone found more information on the switch theory? I've seen the images supposedly depicting the lettering painted on the sisters but bolted to Titanic which is confirmed, but I cant find any other significant sources outside of just opinion columns.
First Olympic and Titanic were not Identical outwardly, there were small differences that would have been obcvoius to anyone familier with the two ships.More importantly their interiors were very different, Titanics grand staircase was very different from Olympics as was the makeup of the grand saloon.
The fourth funnel actually served as a vent for smoke that would come from the first class smoking room as well as the engine room below it. They should’ve also talked about Violet Jessop who was on board Olympic when she collided with HMS Hawke, she was on board Titanic when she sunk, and she was on board Britannic when she sunk.
Interesting thing I learned though, the SS Great Eastern had an accident warily similar to Titanic in 1862 it was actually worse, but she didn't sink thanks to a double haul, in fact every safety feature the Titanic was thought to have advanced versions of were already much more well designed and implemented on ships that had been around for decades, after learning of some of these ships I lost any and all respect I reserved for white star lines, they built the Titanic to look safe, not be safe.
The Great Eastern, was she the vessel formerly named "Leviathan"? I ask the because the Leviathan was the first true double-hull ever built, but she encountered numerous technical problems.
To explain how some witnesses swore the ship sank intact, you also have to remember how dark it was after the lights went out. Not only were they probably focusing more on saving themselves and completely disoriented, but the ship probably looked more like an ambiguous black blob than a boat. If anything, the witnesses who said it split probably had a pretty keen eye. Not only that, but depending on their vantage point it may not have looked like a split but rather just bobbling up and down.
I’ve studied titanic for as long as I can remember and it is so fascinating, the story and how it the story is today
In 1915 the SS Eastland capsized on the Chicago river, because it had to carry more than double the lifeboats and rafts it was designed for, which it had to carry because in March, 1915, President Woodrow Wilson signed what became known as the LaFollette Seaman's Act, requiring every ship to carry enough lifeboats or rafts and lifejackets for every passenger.
As the Carpathia raced to the rescue Captain Rostron had all steam diverted from the heating and hot water to the propulsion. The ship had a top rated speed of 16.9 knots, which it had hit during its sea trails years earlier, but that night they topped 18 knots.
The ship's boilers were going full power and the main pressure gauge was pegged past the red zone, so members of the engineering crew kept leaving their posts to come look at it. Finally the chief engineer took his hat off, hung it over the gauge to hide it from view, and told the crew to get back to their posts, for they weren't stopping until they reached the Titanic.
Titanic: Blood and Steel
Is the show I believe you were referring to
That's the one!
Got a local museum around here somewhere that I have been to a couple times and one of the exhibits they set up was a Titanic exhibit. If I am remembering right they set it up to have like a path that led through 3 or 4 rooms with the various exhibits covering different stages of the Titanic's story. It started at the beginning with pictures of the construction and info panels pertaining to the Company and trivia about things like the amount of steel it took to make it. It then progressed to a massive scale model that had dozens of little info notes and a large cut away map of the interior of the ship set up behind the model. When you got to the end you arrived in a dark, cold room which simulated the light and temperature levels at the time of the sinking. The walls were dimly lit with directed lights that kept the center of the room dark so you could read passenger and crew info but the real interest that most people had in the sort of "Fate' Room was a large water tank in the center where you could put your arm into the North Atlantic and then be very grateful that you can take it right back out after that shock.
I live near gatlinburg tennessee, they have an almost life sized museum of the titanic. Artifacts recovered from the site are there. Should you get the chance I highly recommend it
There is a very cool Titanic museum in Belfast, Norhtern Ireland!
If you've never been, definitely check out the Titanic Museum at Gatlinburg TN. I've been twice and its exceptionally well set up.
EDIT: You mention the exhibit in Vegas at the end of the video, its very possible they're the same company. The one in Gatlinburg does the same where you're given a "boarding ticket" with some info on the passenger and at the end you see whether your passenger survived or not.
Have you been to the Titanic Museum in Pigeon Forge? I will be there at the end of this month and plan on visiting this museum.
The ship actually received word from several other ships about the iceberg but it wasn't standard procedure for the communications officer to relay messages to the crew. He just passed them along to other ships or set the warnings aside for later.
He actually did pass warnings to the crew, but they weren't urgent warnings. He did receive an earlier ice berg warning that he did intend to send up, but he got distracted with the backlog and being so tired he ended up forgetting about that warning, to say nothing of Californian's warning which nearly blew his ear out.
@@Riku-zv5dk Thanks for the clarification. The books I had read on the subject were kind of vague on certain issues including this.
@@darknite8483 the main issue was the wireless had been broken during most of the day and the two operators had spent the day repairing it, the other operator had gone to bed to catch up on some sleep before his shift started while the other went from repairing sending and receiving messages and was going through that, hence why he was so distracted and tired before the sinking.