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True if the Android conversion could turn two normal rebelious teens into planet busters then imagine what it can do with sb that had a big power level in the first place.
This is the plot I want to see with Marron and Bulla. If Dragon Ball Super leans into the Bulla being a scientist fighter writing, she could make herself an Android and be a Saiyan/Android hybrid who could match Pan who has serious natural potential. They haven't explained whether Marron is a hybrid or pure human. If Dragon Ball focuses on her, it could be a great plot.
03:14 The mitochondria of 18's cells were replaced with nanomachines connected via whormholes to a "white hole" (that is actually a micro-black_hole releasing Hawking Radiation at an always increasing rate). | -> Her daughter Marron has exactly 1 of this "infinite energy" nanites (instead of billions); on a random cell that was the original fertilized ovvi.
I'm not a full scientist yet but let me be the one to explain how the Androids Energy increase could work. Since they are heavily modified and have a bio engine inside their bodies, training for them probably results in increase in output through efficient processes. Basically, the Bio engine is probably learning through their better use of the produced energy, much like our muscles memorize data through the local neurons. So their training slowly evolves their mechanical systems, that's how they would grow more powerful. In fact the engine may be connected to the neurons, that would make it extremely advanced since it could use their neurons as processing units, with the "machine" working as an operating system to better regulate their bodily processes, lightening the load on the brain and allowing for a more efficient use of energy, letting most of the energy produced be used for battle.
It's funny that you made this video. I'm rewatching DBZ Kai for the first time since I was a teenager. I just got to the android saga and was thinking about how beastly the androids were, considering they were once human.
The fact that Raditz's body was right there and Gero did nothing with it is a missed opportunity. (We know that Gero was spying on every fight in the Saiyan saga, He should have seen the battle with Raditz) Imagine Android 19 as Android Raditz how cool that would be. Especially Vegeta getting rekt by him lol. The guy he viewed as inferior to him. For some reason this isn't a popular what if.
Finally someone who understands sayians, genetics and ki in general. Anyone can become stronger by training, and someone with almost the same DNA as goku has INSANE potential. If raditz was given a chance, he would become a monster. Same with Nappa, who is highly intelligent, loyal and has immense pride for his own people. Nappa and raditz both weren't even evil, especially compared to vegeta who literally kills his own team. Nappa wanted to revive raditz as soon as he found out about the dragon balls and breed with humans to bring back the race when he found out about hybrids but that made vegeta afraid. Raditz never needed to die, he clearly was a villian who deserved to be beaten into friendship. Brothers needed to fight it out, but raditz escalated shit by kidnapping Gohan unfortunately.
In the tournament of power when the androids gave energy to the spirit bomb, they said something like "Yeah I think we can spare some energy" somewhat sarcastically with smug looks on their faces implying that they could give infinite energy to the spirit bomb without it effecting their stamina in any way. If that spirit energy were completely separate from their infinite energy, they wouldn't have acted like that and they wouldn't have given much more than a normal human. The reason why that spirit bomb didn't have infinite energy is because they can't output unlimited energy at one point in time. I think it is comparable to a regular car with infinite gasoline, it has infinite energy but the engine can't use all the fuel at once so you can't power an entire city with it or anything like that. Their energy is closer to ki than you think but still different, sort of like the difference between god ki and mortal ki. If it were completely separate from ki than you would have to explain how they can fly without any sort of thrusters or anything like that because flight is a ki technique.
As bioinformatics sciencist i should make video on how dr gero how he was able achieve this feature because it's quite simple. We learned about this in undergrad classes.
It’s interesting to note because Whis comments that turning ssb consumes vast ENERGY or stamina, and likewise the siblings commented during the top that they have infinite energy/stamina. Not ki.
haha that Super 17 shot at the end. Man that guy is the coolest character, Sparking Zero has GO(A)T to add him as dlc. The other Japanese IPs I like are many. My favorite game of all time is Xenosaga Episode I. The first time I saw it advertised in Gameinformer Magazine back in early 2003 or late 2002, I knew I was looking at something that would I would love. Tied for second place are a bunch of banger JRPGs - Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy IX, Zelda Ocarina of Time/Majora’s Mask (I always combine em into one because MM is just a big expansion to OoT if the latter had originally released for pc), Dark Cloud and Dark Cloud 2 (both of which are available on the PS4/5’s PSN and the soundtracks for both are bundled into one purchase on the PS4’s PSN and man their music is top notch), and Final Fantasy XII. Kingdom Hearts and KHII are honorable mentions (especially the original game because it was SquareSOFT and not Square-Enix back then). Final Fantasies X/X-2, FFVII, FFVIII, and Vagrant Story as well. My favorite manga is Berserk and second favorite is Hunter X Hunter. These two are actually my favorite IPs across all mediums. Specifically for anime, my favorite is Gundam Wing with Trigun and Cowboy Bebop tied for a close second place. Yu Yu Hakusho, Case Closed, and Inuyasha are up there too as are Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, Ghost in the Shell (the original 1995/6 film), and of course Akira. Your Lie in April is one I didn’t think I’d care for much but it is great. Cyber City OEDO 808 is another great one I like. Redwall is my favorite book series although I think A Song of Ice and Fire is the best written with the most interesting lore. Malazan Book of the Fallen is another banger series as is The Stormlight Archive (Brandon Sanderson is a machine, Stephen King is too and his Dark Tower series is cool). My favorite book though is Watership Down and Tailchaser’s Song is also great (pretty much Watership Down with cats instead of rabbits/hares) as are Tad Williams’ other books. Currently I’m reading Blood Meridian and I hear the book is too brutal to be adapted into a film. Blade Runner is probably my favorite film and The Thing (John Carpenter), Sicario, and Apocalypse Now Redux are in my top four. You can imagine some of my other favorite films and one that stand out is the recent Godzilla Minus One (saw it 17 times in theaters and I should have saw it three more times to hit that benchmark of 20). My favorite bands are Opeth, Rotting Christ, Novembre, CKY (when Deron Miller was in the band, and since then Deron has done other music which have all been great), Deftones, Tool, Behemoth, Katatonia, Porcupine Tree, Darkest Hour, As I Lay Dying, Enya, Andrea Bocceli, Loreena McKennit, Nobuo Uematsu, Hitoshi Sakimoto, and a bunch of other video game composers. Thank you to anyone who read all of this.
Love the thumbnail scholar of waìfu android 18. Would be better if it was Android 18 & Andriod 21 plus their fusion Andriod 39. I always had a theory when Andriod 16 said both he & cell had the same power level it lead me to believe that Cell could have absorbed him before he began his hunt for 17 & 18
Any of the Human z fighters would end up folding everyone with an android upgrade, even Yamcha the weakest human and most likely to get the upgrade would fold the verse lmao.
Few thoughts... 1. Should infinite energy be taken literally? Sometimes something lasts so long that we'd say forever, though perhaps the androids have a limit, just not one that would come up in battle. 2. Does their altered cellular structure mean they couldn't/can't use ki? I would assume as fighters they would have some ki. Yet absolutely none is detected, ever.
It’s hard to say because the way 17 and 18 performed during the TOP made it look like they never needed to catch their breath. The only real moments they struggled were due to physical damage like 18’s ankle or the damage 17 took. But even then 17 didn’t seem like he was struggling to use his barrier or infinite bullets. While he did however his overall power wasn’t “infinite”. Like in the sense the output seems limited.
Didn't Krillin have to use a wish to make 18 more organic before he got with her? Perhaps this was basically another retcon? Also, pretty sure when Gohan trains Videl to fly, he said, "All living things have Ki." So the Androids probably just don't know how to use it, just like Videl didn't. Hercules could probably actually learn to pretty awesome given his insane durability. I know he doesn't really have the AP right now, but didn't he tank hits from Cell and stuff? Yeah, it's basically because he's a gag character... but if Gohan can teach Videl to fly, and theoretically other Ki manipulation techniques (though I don't think he ever has. It's never been shown nor mention afaik), he could teach Hercule... and Hercule with even basic Ki blasts would probably be like at least Cell Saga Krillin level, just because he should scale roughly to his own durability.
Genki Dama are not about power but it's about Chi look if is about power Goten and Trunks would turn Gotenks SSJ3 in Buu Arc to give more power to Genki Dama.
@@SaiyanScholar Thanks! I also been liking the style of these recent uploads! Hope this is permanent. Can you do videos on Piccolo's transformations or the unseen absorbed forms of Super Buu???
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Outrageous thumbnail scholar 😂
Yep
The veins 💀
@@SaiyanScholaroh naw the krillin emoji after exploiting his wife for more clicks is crazy
The White stuff like well you know.
Bruh if yamcha got tired of losing and just told bulma to turn him into an android then he'd legit solo almost everyone in super
Lol.
@@SaiyanScholar infinite fang fist
True if the Android conversion could turn two normal rebelious teens into planet busters then imagine what it can do with sb that had a big power level in the first place.
It's not November anymore and bro choose violence.
LMAO
Yeah it’s not.
Thumbnail is diabolic.
Yes
Crazy how 17 and 18 were able to compete with super saiyans. Gero was that smart. Imagine if someone had that kind of IQ in real life. 😮
i'm a weak man for veins.
So is Krillin
This is the plot I want to see with Marron and Bulla. If Dragon Ball Super leans into the Bulla being a scientist fighter writing, she could make herself an Android and be a Saiyan/Android hybrid who could match Pan who has serious natural potential. They haven't explained whether Marron is a hybrid or pure human. If Dragon Ball focuses on her, it could be a great plot.
Definitely some hidden potential there!
Android Saiyan would be broken lmao.
Nah, nobody cares about Marron/bulla/pan
Just you lol @@xXLiLJokerXx
@@constantinethecataphract5949 Frieza would shit his pants.
Aaannd save thumbnail for personal use later 🤣
LOL ffs.
03:14 The mitochondria of 18's cells were replaced with nanomachines connected via whormholes to a "white hole" (that is actually a micro-black_hole releasing Hawking Radiation at an always increasing rate).
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-> Her daughter Marron has exactly 1 of this "infinite energy" nanites (instead of billions); on a random cell that was the original fertilized ovvi.
I'm not a full scientist yet but let me be the one to explain how the Androids Energy increase could work.
Since they are heavily modified and have a bio engine inside their bodies, training for them probably results in increase in output through efficient processes. Basically, the Bio engine is probably learning through their better use of the produced energy, much like our muscles memorize data through the local neurons. So their training slowly evolves their mechanical systems, that's how they would grow more powerful. In fact the engine may be connected to the neurons, that would make it extremely advanced since it could use their neurons as processing units, with the "machine" working as an operating system to better regulate their bodily processes, lightening the load on the brain and allowing for a more efficient use of energy, letting most of the energy produced be used for battle.
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180k subscribers so far. Your power level is Gokus’ when fully powered up against Captain Ginyu.
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It's funny that you made this video. I'm rewatching DBZ Kai for the first time since I was a teenager. I just got to the android saga and was thinking about how beastly the androids were, considering they were once human.
Really interesting concepts!
The fact that Raditz's body was right there and Gero did nothing with it is a missed opportunity. (We know that Gero was spying on every fight in the Saiyan saga, He should have seen the battle with Raditz)
Imagine Android 19 as Android Raditz how cool that would be. Especially Vegeta getting rekt by him lol. The guy he viewed as inferior to him.
For some reason this isn't a popular what if.
Finally someone who understands sayians, genetics and ki in general. Anyone can become stronger by training, and someone with almost the same DNA as goku has INSANE potential. If raditz was given a chance, he would become a monster. Same with Nappa, who is highly intelligent, loyal and has immense pride for his own people. Nappa and raditz both weren't even evil, especially compared to vegeta who literally kills his own team. Nappa wanted to revive raditz as soon as he found out about the dragon balls and breed with humans to bring back the race when he found out about hybrids but that made vegeta afraid. Raditz never needed to die, he clearly was a villian who deserved to be beaten into friendship. Brothers needed to fight it out, but raditz escalated shit by kidnapping Gohan unfortunately.
@@thefreshvince879Raditz are weaker than Saibamans that's embarrassing not every Saiyan are Goku or Vegeta they are rare genius.
Thumbnail lowkey insane.
Where did u get it from?
Thanks! Credit in description.
@@SaiyanScholar ty
@@SaiyanScholar The credits only refer to the background music! 😢 (What was the original thumbnail anyway?)
In the tournament of power when the androids gave energy to the spirit bomb, they said something like "Yeah I think we can spare some energy" somewhat sarcastically with smug looks on their faces implying that they could give infinite energy to the spirit bomb without it effecting their stamina in any way. If that spirit energy were completely separate from their infinite energy, they wouldn't have acted like that and they wouldn't have given much more than a normal human. The reason why that spirit bomb didn't have infinite energy is because they can't output unlimited energy at one point in time. I think it is comparable to a regular car with infinite gasoline, it has infinite energy but the engine can't use all the fuel at once so you can't power an entire city with it or anything like that. Their energy is closer to ki than you think but still different, sort of like the difference between god ki and mortal ki. If it were completely separate from ki than you would have to explain how they can fly without any sort of thrusters or anything like that because flight is a ki technique.
ngl i clicked because of the thumbnail and i see im not the only one.
As bioinformatics sciencist i should make video on how dr gero how he was able achieve this feature because it's quite simple. We learned about this in undergrad classes.
It’s interesting to note because Whis comments that turning ssb consumes vast ENERGY or stamina, and likewise the siblings commented during the top that they have infinite energy/stamina. Not ki.
haha that Super 17 shot at the end. Man that guy is the coolest character, Sparking Zero has GO(A)T to add him as dlc.
The other Japanese IPs I like are many. My favorite game of all time is Xenosaga Episode I. The first time I saw it advertised in Gameinformer Magazine back in early 2003 or late 2002, I knew I was looking at something that would I would love. Tied for second place are a bunch of banger JRPGs - Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy IX, Zelda Ocarina of Time/Majora’s Mask (I always combine em into one because MM is just a big expansion to OoT if the latter had originally released for pc), Dark Cloud and Dark Cloud 2 (both of which are available on the PS4/5’s PSN and the soundtracks for both are bundled into one purchase on the PS4’s PSN and man their music is top notch), and Final Fantasy XII. Kingdom Hearts and KHII are honorable mentions (especially the original game because it was SquareSOFT and not Square-Enix back then). Final Fantasies X/X-2, FFVII, FFVIII, and Vagrant Story as well.
My favorite manga is Berserk and second favorite is Hunter X Hunter. These two are actually my favorite IPs across all mediums. Specifically for anime, my favorite is Gundam Wing with Trigun and Cowboy Bebop tied for a close second place. Yu Yu Hakusho, Case Closed, and Inuyasha are up there too as are Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, Ghost in the Shell (the original 1995/6 film), and of course Akira. Your Lie in April is one I didn’t think I’d care for much but it is great. Cyber City OEDO 808 is another great one I like.
Redwall is my favorite book series although I think A Song of Ice and Fire is the best written with the most interesting lore. Malazan Book of the Fallen is another banger series as is The Stormlight Archive (Brandon Sanderson is a machine, Stephen King is too and his Dark Tower series is cool). My favorite book though is Watership Down and Tailchaser’s Song is also great (pretty much Watership Down with cats instead of rabbits/hares) as are Tad Williams’ other books. Currently I’m reading Blood Meridian and I hear the book is too brutal to be adapted into a film.
Blade Runner is probably my favorite film and The Thing (John Carpenter), Sicario, and Apocalypse Now Redux are in my top four. You can imagine some of my other favorite films and one that stand out is the recent Godzilla Minus One (saw it 17 times in theaters and I should have saw it three more times to hit that benchmark of 20).
My favorite bands are Opeth, Rotting Christ, Novembre, CKY (when Deron Miller was in the band, and since then Deron has done other music which have all been great), Deftones, Tool, Behemoth, Katatonia, Porcupine Tree, Darkest Hour, As I Lay Dying, Enya, Andrea Bocceli, Loreena McKennit, Nobuo Uematsu, Hitoshi Sakimoto, and a bunch of other video game composers.
Thank you to anyone who read all of this.
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What does that mean?
The thumbnail is AFTER krillin saved her
Love the thumbnail scholar of waìfu android 18. Would be better if it was Android 18 & Andriod 21 plus their fusion Andriod 39.
I always had a theory when Andriod 16 said both he & cell had the same power level it lead me to believe that Cell could have absorbed him before he began his hunt for 17 & 18
Android 16 is cool man! And thanks!
16 is fully mechanical not an enhanced human like 17 and 18, there is nothing for Cell to absorb.
Bro, Scholar, you're an ansolute menace for this thumbnail. We all clicked on it, though, so... 🤷🏽
Why that thumbnail bro? Why?
I just....and now I have to....again... *sigh
FFS
Any of the Human z fighters would end up folding everyone with an android upgrade, even Yamcha the weakest human and most likely to get the upgrade would fold the verse lmao.
It trips me out there's a girl that I work with that looks just like Android 18 I kid you not😂
Yay Krilin Wife Representation
:D
The db community is down bad over mid chicks
ChiChi rules.
@SaiyanScholar can't lie Chi Chi is underrated.
Imagine turning a Saiyan into an Android
If only Android 18 was as strong as 17
This gotta be a retcon
If tien become android rip everyone
Lmao
Tien sequel when?
Tien SEQUEL? lol
Oh I think I use the same website the thumbnail came from! Lots of good art over there.
... lol.
Few thoughts... 1. Should infinite energy be taken literally? Sometimes something lasts so long that we'd say forever, though perhaps the androids have a limit, just not one that would come up in battle. 2. Does their altered cellular structure mean they couldn't/can't use ki? I would assume as fighters they would have some ki. Yet absolutely none is detected, ever.
It’s hard to say because the way 17 and 18 performed during the TOP made it look like they never needed to catch their breath. The only real moments they struggled were due to physical damage like 18’s ankle or the damage 17 took. But even then 17 didn’t seem like he was struggling to use his barrier or infinite bullets.
While he did however his overall power wasn’t “infinite”. Like in the sense the output seems limited.
Didn't Krillin have to use a wish to make 18 more organic before he got with her? Perhaps this was basically another retcon?
Also, pretty sure when Gohan trains Videl to fly, he said, "All living things have Ki." So the Androids probably just don't know how to use it, just like Videl didn't. Hercules could probably actually learn to pretty awesome given his insane durability. I know he doesn't really have the AP right now, but didn't he tank hits from Cell and stuff? Yeah, it's basically because he's a gag character... but if Gohan can teach Videl to fly, and theoretically other Ki manipulation techniques (though I don't think he ever has. It's never been shown nor mention afaik), he could teach Hercule... and Hercule with even basic Ki blasts would probably be like at least Cell Saga Krillin level, just because he should scale roughly to his own durability.
Imagine if Dr. Gero modified Arale. No competition.
Arale doesn’t need modification. As a gag character she easily matched ssb Goku and wanted to go 100x stronger.
If what you are saying is true, then what is krillen and 18's daughter? She's definitely not human.
Her battle genetics are stronger.
W thumbnail😂
This is no way a scholar should act. What is that thumbnail 😂
I really appreciate your approach to content creation. Your videos are always top notch!⛹️👏🏻☯️
Theres no reason to assume it was multiplicative and not additional
Can the androids have an upgrade, can bulma upgrade the Android to have better fighting power
Apparently 16 said he was even stronger after getting fixed. But maybe that was dub only. I can't remember.
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Androids can't give infinity energy to Genki Dama because is not about KI/Power level.
Genki Dama are not about power but it's about Chi look if is about power Goten and Trunks would turn Gotenks SSJ3 in Buu Arc to give more power to Genki Dama.
Why you got to do android 18 like that saiyan scholar its not like she had a choice on becoming android or not dude
Why did you take away the Majin symbol?
Do you prefer it?
@SaiyanScholar Heck yeah, Majin Android 18 is a awesome concept!
We BACK!
@@SaiyanScholar Thanks! I also been liking the style of these recent uploads! Hope this is permanent. Can you do videos on Piccolo's transformations or the unseen absorbed forms of Super Buu???
Your thumbnail is cursed